Madeleine McCann: Watching The Parents
MORE no news on the Madeleine McCann case.
It is now a week since the three-year-old girl was snatched from a Portugal holiday resort.
The story has been distressing to watch on our TV screens. What it must like for the parents of Madeleine only a few can know.
BLAME
But their misery is far from complete. With no news of Madeleine, and the Portuguese police having no need to indulge the British tabloids with speculation and theory, Madeleine’s parents are the central characters.
And today’s front-page news, as reported by the caring Mirror, is: “THEY KNOW LEAVING KIDS WAS WRONG.”
Does the Mirror mean to say that Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry, now think they did the wrong thing in nipping out for a bite to eat and leaving the children in the apartment on what they thought was a secure resort?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns know that popping back regularly to look at their children and checking on their well being was less than perfect?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns realise they should not have left their children alone, just like it is wrong to leave a child in a hotel under the auspices of a baby monitoring service, to leave a child in the car while mum goes to pay for petrol, to talk to a neighbour over a garden fence while the children are indoors?
Of course this is not the Mirror’s view. Oh, no. This is Madeleine’s grandmother, Susan Healy, saying: “They know this was a mistake. But it wasn’t child neglect, it wasn’t not caring for your children.”
That she feels the need to say this is wrong. That the Mirror can lead with Madeleine’s grief-worn parents is pathetic and misguided. That the paper can talk of “people are asking why they didn’t make use of the crèche” at the resort or take the children out to dinner with them is wrong.
But the Mirror has news to write. And the police aren’t playing the game.
THEORIES
So the Mirror produces: “THE 6 THEORIES.”
Only six! Why this cautious approach? But it is all the Mirror has. And readers hear of the “PAEDOPHILE GANG”, the “LONE PAEDOPHILE”, the “JEALOUS MOTHER”, Madeleine wandering off and “DROWNED”, the “OPPORTUNIST PAEDOPHILE”, the “CHILDLESS COUPLE”.
But the Sun has more. It has 130 more. As the front-page headline screams: “MADDIE COPS HUNT 130 BRIT PAEDOS.”
The paper says “at least” 130 British paedophiles “might” have taken Madeleine McCann.
In “ALGARVE IS ‘HAVEN’ FOR PERVS”, readers learn that Portugal is a “magnet for sun-seeking perverts from Britain and the rest of Europe”.
Who knew that perverts get off on watching children at the beach?
Us And Them
But help is on its way. The Sun lists the British coppers who will go out there and see to it that justice is done. We, says the paper, are the only country with a sex offenders’ register.
All convicted perverts must inform the police of their desire to go abroad. At least 130 have. And the police are looking for them.
But – and whisper this – might it be that convicted sexual deviants don’t all tell the police what they plan to do? They are not monitored while overseas. And might it be that not all sexual predators are caught and make it to the list?
Among the policemans’ names is Detective Superintendent Graham Hill, attached to theChild Exploitation and Protection Centre. Hill is on the case. He has flown to Portugal.
Hill worked on the case of Milly Dowler. She was snatched from near Walton railway station, Surrey, in 2002. Her body was found six months later. Her killer or killers have never been caught.
Perhaps Hill’s experiences can help. Perhaps he’ll have more luck. Perhaps not.
Meanwhile, a family is distraught, and bearing up incredibly well under the strain and the merciless gaze of the newspapers…
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September 12th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
I would make a calculated guess that the diary will be the one from her GP practice. There would be no way that a private diary could be useful, as she could first of all deny having one, she would not write about anything to incriminate herself and could also quickly destroy it before the police could get their hands on it. Her professional diary would obviously be at the practice and they probably want to check who she saw, when she was there, and what she did just prior to the holiday and also what appointments she had made for her return.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Sandra…Thanx for the info!!
Yes this is the first i have heard about a diary. I did say before, I believe the police have more than they have shared as far as evidence. I just wondered what the big piece of evidence was they talked about a bit ago. And the search and arrests in the UK?
I guess we will all have to wait and see.
I read that the Mccanns had used their savings to pay bills and live in Portugal since the time Maddie disappeared. They have Gerry quoted as saying they will use the FUND money to pay for a team of lawyers? If they did NOTHING wrong they have nothing to worry about. And if they did NOTHING wrong, why would they need a TEAM of lawyers?
September 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
As for an example how the news seem to arrive Britain first…british media already knows that the mystery object to be seized is Mrs Mccann’s diary. It is 3:02 pm…In Portugal = NOTHING ON TVS, NEWSPAPERS OR INTERNET. Unless they have undercover agents within PJ….
September 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
A Person: don’t worry, you did not offend me or the portuguese, I only felt very sad because…if at least you could be here and see and feel yourself what we all feel. Great majority of the portuguese are confused, hurt, and still can’t believe such a thing. But it is because of Maddie, we’ve been praying for her for so long, people go to Praia da Luz only “to be ” with her. Regarding the PJ, it feels sad because we really trust their work, the PJ is not a local police, it is international, and many police scientists where just called to Venezuela to cooperate in drugs traffic. So the police does not need more trainning than they have, they are constantly being “upgraded” , being used for ages to deal with locals and tourists and all kinds of crimes and stories. What makes this case look so strange is that for a start, the crime scene, if there was an abduction and being the parents educated people, shouldn’t they know they had to call the police immediately and don’t let ANYONE ENTER THE APARTMENT BESIDES THEM ? Yet it took an hour for them to call the police, they called friends in the press, friends in Algarve, family, and they messed things all the time. By the time the police arrived (10m after the call) dozens of diferent persons had entered and revolved the apartment. The story they told was so naive and strange considering their education level, that the police did not believe for 1 moment there was an abduction. But they had to follow the “circus” and see if the “circus” would provide them with evidence. But the circus took time and time…remember those weeks of silence ? and evidence started to come to light, believe me, police will leave no stone unturned. I really consider our police one of the best, we feel secure in our country, there are other police forces, each one with their jobs, police for schools, police for companies and industrial areas, police for touristic areas, scientific police, so many police forces… PJ deals with murders, abductions, drugs, major crimes and they are trainned in the best schools here and abroad. That is why they participate in actions in other countries, because human nature and criminals are as bad here as anywhere and vice versa. Maybe that’s because we spend so much on security that we are considered a poor country…yet I would not like to live any other place.
Anyway the only thing we can do now is wait, hope they find Madeleine and be prepared for the worst scenario.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Star: So far, the most reliable news I could find was on The Times, correct, direct to the point, not hysterical or false. And also in New Zealand, most of the news are correct, except the ones that quote Sky. The ones quoting Reuters are generally correct.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Amazed: sorry I forgot about the SALT. Of course I did not think you would think immerse the body in a saline solution or pure crystal salt. There would be salt everywhere! No, but SALT, or a strong saline solution that can be made with water,(or sea water )and 1 pound of our common kitchen salt, can stop a bleeding and accelarate deydratation causing the body to dry with no bleed if INJECTED immediately after death, when there is still a little circulation. This practice is known by surgeons, they can use saline solutions to stop bleedings during surgery. Saline solutions (not so strong) can be used to stop gum bleading or when we cut ourselves. It was also used by the Egyptians to dry their mummies faster, (saline solution with a salt they have in the region called “natron”.) And if perfume is added, the smell can be hidden for some time from 20 to 70 days, depending on the perfume. Egyptians used herbs and essences.
September 12th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
Sandra sorry if I offended you and your right I have no right to verbally abuse the police in Portugal, they, just like any other police force work in hard and dangerous conditions and do deserve respect.
But this case was bungled from day 1 maybe not just by the police but the McCann’s their self’s and the holiday resort owners and the thousands of people walking through to help in the search.
I will say that I feel that more training is needed for the police in that town for missing or abducted children and how to conduct the blocking off of a crime scenemaybe just in that police force not the whole of Portugal .
This could also happen in the UK some of the UK towns would also have problems no doubt, smaller villages.
I would like to point out that I am living in the UK but I am not from the UK I am from New Zealand so I am not protecting my country.
I was out of line though blaming the whole of the Portuguese police for this it wasn’t their fault and I will apologize for that.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Angie….Looking at the evidence (who know what is true and what is not these days and I believe the police have more evidence then they have shared) the Mccanns look very guilty. Finding body fluids that match Maddie’s in the trunk of their rented car does look VERY bad. I do feel for them IF they are innocent. Your right when you say what kind of parents could do this. I hope that the Mccanns did not cause Maddie’s death and get rid of her body!! I hate to admit there are children who have died at the hand of their parents. There are cases like Jon Benet here, never did find out who killed her and now her mom has passed away. They did find her body locked in a basement room in the family home. I dont know how the Mccanns could keep this secret for so long if they are involved. I guess we will all have to wait and see what happens. An investigator did state that the case may be solved, BUT they may never find Maddie.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Sandra…Hi I’m from the states….would you know where we can get the most accurate info on Madeleine’s disappearance on the internet? I have been following the story since day one. We have had bits of news here just in the last few weeks, before that nothing.
I have a child in elementery school and there are no police in the school. We do have to buzz to get into the school now, alot changed after the shootings at Columbine High School. My son attends a Jr High School and there is a police man that walks the halls there. I think in this day and age our children need someone there to protect them. We live in a rural area.
I really hope we hear some news about Madeleine soon!! I hate to say but the Mccanns look guilty, but i am sure there is ALOT of info we dont know yet.
September 12th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Well personally - no matter what evidence the police have, I still totally believe in their innocence. No parent in their right mind would force the publicity as the McCanns have if they had killed her, be it accidentaly or on purpose. They surely would have just let the hype peter out slowly on its own. Every time things in the media quietened down they pushed it back into the limelight again.
Besides which, they wanted this little girl so much that they would surely have been devestated if they had “killed” her and they would have wanted her to have a decent burial. Who wouldnt want that for their child?
September 12th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Amazed: thank you so much for your information about schools there. I remembered to ask because I went to school today for an hour with my middle daughter (she is 9) and there they (the police) were back into place. The police car, there is one parked at everyschool, with two officers, the car is different from the rest of police cars, it says in large letters “Safe School”, and they are there to assist in case of any problem, help with traffic, children crossing streets, etc. Not PJ of course, it is another force. I have seen this since my older son went to school at 3, he is now 13. To enter and circulate inside a school or cheche, we have to leave our ID card at the main entrance, which is kept until we return, with a register of what time we entered and, the name of our child, grade, and what area of the school we will visit and the purpose of the visit. This register is made by school officers, we have to sign it and then it goes to the computer. To circulate inside the school, assist a class, etc they give us a plastified card that we put on our clothes, saying “we are allowed” and a simple paper form to be signed by the person to whom we are going to talk, a teacher, the director, the office. When we go out, time is registered again, we deliver the form signed by the person to whom we talked and we get our card back. It sounds complicated but the whole thing only takes a few minutes. This is for public schools, for private schools I don’t know. I know it is the same system for schools with 900 pupils, or only 30. This way I feel much safer having to leave my children at school from 9 am to 3pm…especially when they are still so little.
As for the British media, I only said what I confirmed myself, I read and hear totally different things here, then I read from Spain, Italy, USA, Germany, France, New Zealand, Brasil…. they all match. Then I read the british and WOW, there is something new I’ve never read before, just like the case of 100% match DNA, which was totally false and assured by the chief of the PJ. I never read or heard that in our newspapers. I even do an internet zapping at the same time with several Internet Explorer Windows only to see the differences. They are so obvious, for example SkyNews is where the news always come first, they get the information BEFORE our TVs and newspapers! Where do they get there information from here ?
September 12th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
I read a while ago that the bald guy was a security guard? Anyone know if that was confirmed or not? The parents did make a comment shortly after Maddie disappeared that SOMEONE was paying her alot of attention? Just wondering if this was true, since they didnt bother to report it at that time. Just like the friend saw a man with a child in a blanket near the Mccann apartment, BUT didnt report that until weeks after Maddie was missing, or the Murat info.
I’m in the states and we did not see anything about Madeleine until the last few weeks…..now atleast once daily there is something on the tv news and the local news on the net.
I do hope that they find out what happen to her!!
September 12th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
“At midnight, the local police called the Policia Judiciaria, which investigates serious crimes. The PJ arrived at 1am and conducted a search. Kate remained in the apartment, while Gerry went out and looked.
By 3.30am the police packed it in for the night. At about 6am, the McCanns went out alone and walked around the scrubland on the outskirts of the village calling Madeleine’s name. There was nobody else around and they felt utterly alone.”
This is taken from a story I read in The Australian
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22388861-28737,00.html
They went out on their own, just a few hours after the disappearance?
September 12th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
No, Sandra, our schools don’t have police on duty as a rule.
When my children were small you could just walk into your child’s school to talk, help with reading etc. Since the Dunblane massacre, most schools now have security measures, albeit usually stopping short of the police. I shouldn’t think it’s saved a single child’s life since, and it’s caused immense inconvenience to totally innocent people, but some think it’s worth it. I don’t - I think it’s stupid. It’s taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and it doesn’t do a thing to tackle the real problems - like children growing up feral because they have no real family connections, normal discipline, or any moral compass. And it makes it difficult for responsible parents to be a part of the community. It also makes us feel under siege … just what terrorists and the disaffected want us to feel. Normal and caring men don’t even dare approach a distressed child for fear of being suspected - a VERY good outcome for society, I don’t think! And even women are suspect these days.
Re salt. If I remember rightly, then salt is used in a solution to preserve meat. (This is fairly ghastly to discuss). Salt, I think, is deliquescent, so it draws out fluids, unless used in a solution. So if you used salt as a method of preserving a body, unless you immersed the body in a salt and water solution, you’d do more harm than good so far as detection was concerned. The salt would draw out bodily fluids and make the concealment of the body / transportation even more difficult, wouldn’t it? And it would take a heck of a lot of salt anyway. Tourists trying to buy mounds of salt would be fairly obvious, I’d have thought.
I don’t think the Portuguese media are any more reliable than the British - considering we get most of our speculation from them. The plain fact remains that, if the McCanns are guilty, then it is probably the most spectacular crime ever committed, and probably involving others to an extraordinary degree of cooperation. That doesn’t mean it CAN’T be true, but it does make one wonder, as so much of it seems totally impossible. Not least, just how do they get away with concealing and moving a body when they are the most watched people in the world. Maybe they could, but if they did … what would it say about the PJ and their early procedures - like 4 months ago?
However, we must just wait on the evidence I suppose - the real stuff, not what is just being reported, which could take up to a year to become clear .. but what if they had nothing to do with it? How would you cope, if you were them (and innocent)?
I’m sorry. But if everyone concerned is having to endure this case (guilty or innocent) then the primary fault is the PJ - who failed completely to secure the crime scene four months ago, and who belatedly have decided the parents are the guilty ones. They MAY ultimately be proved to be right, but they still didn’t get the original investigation right, did they? I don’t think anyone will emerge from this with their reputation intact.
I do wish I could stop wondering about this extraordinary case.
September 12th, 2007 at 11:31 am
thanks for removing my post………. or was very close to the truth???????????? Just typical british,very conservative that makes you sick,very disappointed in this forum,,just hope that they find the poor girl…her parents are jsut senseless beasts
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September 12th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Oh, If someone can help me here, today school is starting in Portugal. I have been to England but did not remember this of did not pay attention, so if someone could help, it is just curiosity…
Do all your schools have police officers on duty during all day long parked at the school yards, to grant children safety ?
Just curiosity, and thanks!
September 12th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Another thing I always found strange was each time the Mccanns went travel somewhere, little Madeleine was see in the region. Maybe another piece in the puzzle, this is the news:
Mari Olli is married with Ray Pollard, born and raised at Groby, Leicester
The Norwegian social worker who says that she saw Madeleine McCann in Morroco is married to Ray Polard, born and raised at Leicester, and the couple lived for some time in Groby, a ten minutes ride from Rothley, where the McCann live, and five minutes from the hospital where Gerry MaCann works. Mari Olli and her husband live in Spain, Málaga. Since Madeleine disappeared, Polícia Judiciária had to send teams of investigators to 256 diferent localities, in Portugal, to investigate alleged sightings of the missing child, accordind to Carlos Anjos, president of ASFIC, PJ Inspector’s Union.
First seen in Morocco, then in Spain, Cartagena-Murcia, south of Spain, also one of the more touristic zones of Spain, where everybody goes on holidays and with media from all over the world. I guess the abductor wouldn’t be so close to the initial crime scene. Málaga, where this couple lives now, is also in the south of Spain, about 400 Km West from Cartagena, closer to Gibraltar. Does sound strange, too much coincidence…
September 12th, 2007 at 10:07 am
Since we have been talking about the possibility of Madeleine being dead and that is also the line of the investigation of PJ, since many weeks, some of us here have been confused how is it possible (in case of the worst scenario) to preserve a body and avoid decomposition. Well, I don’t know how I missed this before but - SALT . It was a common use to preserve meat when there were no refrigerators, and you can find salt anywhere in shops all around, especially sea salt, that can alsobe used from sea water.
Don’t think the evidence is appearing only now, it has been a hard work, a 1000 pages report done last months, so obviously most of the evidence and clues are collected, but not announced. That’s what brings so much speculation. I would advise those who follow this case not to believe in everything you read in british news. As I have worldwide TV (cable and satellite) and fortunately I can dominate 5 languages, I’m not believing everything that is announced, so I watch TVs from all the over the world, starting with Portugal and ending in New Zealand. I’ve been able to detect that unfortunately the british news are most of the time false or inaccurate. If you can try other sources, they are much closer to the real events.
The bald man is allegedly one security man from Ocean Club, I don’t know why he does not use uniform (which they usually do, uniform, plus credentials and ID with photo in a visible card) because that depends on the decisions of the manager of the holiday complex.
September 12th, 2007 at 6:10 am
Anyone on here know the name of the big bald guy in the picture with gerry and the kids? what does he do for a living?
another scenario: I take the prize tonight.
family is watched by staff at the OC.
have full insight as to the fact that the mccanns left their kids every night.
on the evening of M’s disappearance..
‘X’= maid, supervisor, club baby checkers - goes into madeleines room shortly after they watch gerry leave - they know they have a ‘window’ off opportunity,
AND - if the parents do come back - they have the excuse of “Oh, i heard a baby/child crying so came in to check’ - ‘X’ passes the child through the window to - someone who is in the right place such as A SECURITY GUARD (what colour are the security guard uniforms at the ocean club???
The security guard takes madeleine to the car i believe was outside the nearby supermarket..
the maid walks out of the door ……(she will have pass keys)
and the security guy goes back to his rounds………….. makes sense to me.
You can pay me in large or small bills thankyou.
FIND THE BIG BALD MAN - SOMEONE MUST KNOW WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE DOES FOR A LIVING.
September 12th, 2007 at 5:58 am
This is what I think (which is protected by the Human rights act!)
They only went to church to Prey they dont get found out and look good on TV morelike! How many of you would go to a church 1 hour after your daughter was missing? Errrm none of You. We would all be out looking for her, and probably not stop till we collapsed.
“Find Madeleine” Yeah sure OK, tell us where she is then Gerry & Co. That’s what many people are thinking. According to NSPCC’s figures a while back, Nearly 80% of murdered kids are killed by their Parents accidentally or otherwise. So statistically, there’s hardly ever a “mystery stalking pedophile” or “stranger” it’s family, or friends. Why it’s taken this long to detect all these “new” facts is beyond me. Don’t tell me everyone was caught up in the McCann show and didnt relaise it could have been them? The Pope? what’s he got to do with anything? He was nothing but a “Hitler youth” brownshirt anyway, wow much closer to God can you get than that! This whole drama stinks of “evil” (stupidity) from top to bottom. (allegedly)
Then, we have had to put up with Gerry telling us one thing and his body language telling us something else. The words he speaks are weird. Everything is a RATIONALISATION attempt. Classic psychology trick. He’s said so many things that have made me think “You’re dodgy mate” I couldnt list them all for fear of taking up a whole page or three and getting banned form the forum for flooding you all out and breaking the server…. but here’s a choice few! (allegedly)
Gerry quote:
“Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand. An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended.Faced with such a situation we believe any human soul will ultimately suffer torment and feelings of guilt and fear. If you have done something you regret, if you find yourself in a situation you never intended, it is not too late to do the right thing”
Trying to tell us something Gerry? Why not take your own advice then and do the right thing and tell us.
Then as soon as the police are on his case he also says:
“We cannot sustain that level of interest and Kate and I want to withdraw from the campaign,”
Is this the same campaign that will “leave no stone unturned” Gerrry?
Is this part of “we will do everything in our power to find Madeleine”?
Remember her? Yeah that girl you forget to mention most of the time because you’re a self obsessed control freak weirdo (allegedly)
Gerry then decides to not answer 40 questions at the Police Station. This is just before he’s at home claiming to “be co-operating with the Portugese Police blah blah blah ” this is all while “leaving no stone unturned” remember.
Only this time instead of rationalising, he’s clearly in denial. (allegedly) I simply call it LYING. (allegedly)
Also Gerry quote:
“All the excitement seems to be over the results of the recent forensic tests that again have created a huge amount of speculation. There has been no official conformation that the report has been received, or what the tests suggest if anything!” More Gerry rationalisation. (and contradiction!) what a star. No mention of “I’m excited that we could have a possible lead or clues as to what happened to Medeleine”
Then he wants to use the £1,000,000 to defend themselves against killing her.
OK, right. like everyone gave money to defend her alleged killer/accomplice. Notice he set up the donation website pretty quickly, not as a Charity, but a Business? With a clause 1.33 or whatever it is saying “to support the mccanns” whatever that generalisation means.
Yeah, let’s get them a Ferrari too then as they need to do a fast (and free) huge Euopean tour! That’s what I call support. And yeah why not throw in 14 bottles of wine for good measure. No, I meant errrm two bottles. Oh, whatever officer. (allegedly)
Day 124 - 04/09/2007
“Kate and I did our first interview for a French Publication today. Any interviews we do now, of which we only accept a small percentage of bids” Yeah good on you Mr pick and choose famous Cool guy. That’s really leaving no stone unturned isn’t it. (allegedly)
The Police have bugged their telephones and got their Emails. I bet Gerry has talked his way into a corner with his nervous rationalisation crap. I hope so.
In my opinion they know what happened. They may not be found guilty because of lack of evidence but that’s not innocence. (allegedly)
If that really is the case, Imagine having to be those people. Every day, knowing what they know. (allegedly/apparrently/maybe)
No lawsuits coming my way!! I cant dip a fund to defend against them. (which will hopefully soon be blocked) know what I mean Gerry. God, you know what he’s like. He wants to sue us all now! (allegedly)
Respect to all life. Love one another…. while drinking tea. Peace x
(allegedly)
September 12th, 2007 at 4:49 am
Hi Sandra thanks for your input. I’d love to know this mans name if anyone knows. I hope things settle down for the Portuguese people soon. - And for the hard working officials who are doing what they can to help solve this case.:)
September 12th, 2007 at 4:38 am
The 1st picture was taken before Madeleine was kidnapped, and is clear that the place is inside the Ocean Resort. The man in question, with shaved hair, sunglasses and strongly build, appears in several photos, published in British and Spanish newspapers, among Police officers and close to Robert Murat. I could not find anything on this man, I only read somewhere (can’t remember) he is a security from the Ocean Club.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:35 am
When was the last time Maddie was seen by anyone other than family or friends on the day she was abducted? What about the friend of the family that reported(much later) that she saw a man with a child wrapped in a blanket (she is now sure it was Maddie), could Maddie have been dead? Did this man hide her, until the parents got a car and moved her again? According to the police they are saying that Kate killed her, her body was hidden some where, then 25 days later it was moved again?
This whole story is so unbelievable. I had read that someone said Kate lost her temper with her children…wonder who said that? and i wonder what they saw? I would think that with a 3 yr old and a set of 2 yr olds Mom would have her hands full, plus she had a job. Stress? Did she snap? Did she over medicate her so they could go out to have a good time with their friends (dont forget the lady upstairs heard a child crying in the Mccann apartment atleast 2 different times. Now it says they found ALOT of Maddie’s hair in the rental car…alot more than would transfer from objects put in the car? That is another reason they think that her body was in there.
Now the judge has 10 days to go over the evidence and declare if they will be charged with anything. It is gonna be a LONG 10 days for Kate and Gerry.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:16 am
Gerry and Kate McCann want to hire a team of top lawyers to fight police allegations they killed their daughter and hid her body.
And the couple plan to use Madeleine’s Fund to pay for it.
The move provoked outrage last night from people who donated cash before the parents were named official suspects.
In messages posted on internet websites many revealed that they planned to demand their
donations back.
This is NOT right. That money was to find Maddie!! Now they want to hire a TEAM to fight allegations that they killed Maddie and dumped her body? If they are innocent then why do they need a team of lawyers? Are they afraid of what the police have found on them? I mean it seems a bit odd that their daughter’s body fluids would be found under the carpet in the trunk of the car THEY rented, doesnt it? I still believe Kate and Gerry and their friends that were on Holiday with them know what happen to Maddie and they know where she is.
September 12th, 2007 at 3:07 am
JOHN GIBSON, “BIG STORY” HOST: A shocker in the Madeleine McCann case: manslaughter. Little Madeleine’s very own mother can now reportedly be charged in the death of the missing 4-year-old.
Kate McCann is in the spotlight tonight. The London Times is reporting that investigators in Portugal think they have enough evidence to charge her with murder by failing to prevent Madeleine’s death. In the U.K., that is the same as manslaughter. She could also reportedly face charges of concealing Madeleine’s body.
I wonder what it is they have on Kate. I mean why Kate and not Gerry. They think they have enough to get her on manslaughter? I guess we will have to wait and see. I still believe they both know something. Maybe it is the cell phone or texts or emails?
September 12th, 2007 at 2:52 am
-.Sandra
Can you tell us the name of the man in the photo who is stood watching over gerry and the kids playing?
he is seen in other photos with the police. big guy with sunglasses.
thanks
September 12th, 2007 at 1:32 am
And don’t worry about the rental place, it is British, and according to our law records are to be kept at least for a year. Those records are with the police, as well as the car.
And the police will only launch MORE searches, the ones that we can see, because the’ve been always there and many other realted places, not just the spot. I guess that by now they already know the suspects life since their 5th generation!
September 12th, 2007 at 1:25 am
You seem to ignore that our PJ forces are trained not only here, where we do not have Jack the Rippers and other major crimes, but YES they study in USA, Italy, England too, because nowadays in such a global society we cannot limit ourselves within our frontiers? We never had terrorism attacks, yet our forces are equiped and trained to react in those situations. And many times specialists and scientists from the PJ are called abroad to cooperate with international police forces? Of course you do not know that, because you remain self centered, you can only read your own language and everyday you only “eat” what your “media” has to feed you. And of course these facts would never be published in your media because they do not relate to you. I am amazed how someone can come here and criticise a police force who fights everyday to keep people safe and away from criminals, being portuguese or not, it is just a total lack of respect, if not for the police at least for little Maddie, who is they have been looking for all the time. That is what really matters! Just because they do not come to the spotlights of the world like heroes and announce everystep of the investigation you say the wost things I’ve ever heard. I never heard or felt that behaviour in the portuguese people, yet you have the fame to be the “calm ones” and we are the “fire latinos”. Because we respect other peoples and accept the differences, remember we were the ones, many centuries ago, who showed YOU new worlds to discover. You just had to follow and take your share…or do you also have a different history register and Pedro Alvares de Cabral (and many others) were British ?
Our PJ keeps saying, this is a very difficult case being hacked in many ways, because who did it, knew how to act and did it very well, so PRUDENCE, SERENITY AND PATIENCE is all is takes to find out the truth. You seem to want everything in a rush but this is not football, when after 90 minutes you get the result. There are timings and many evidence you do not know and you seem to stuck in the DNA. How many times is it necessary to say that the DNA is only an acessory to confim the line of the investigations and that THE MAIN evidence is yet to come to light ? They have it but will not reveal it until it is the right moment! And the right moment is not when you or your media want! They have BRAINS! Remember they have 10 volumes, nearly 1000 pages on the case and more than 2000 false clues of abduction, all investigated and closed ! And each day they are adding more evidence, so I can assure you all, that after this case is solved there WILL BE NO STONE UNTURNED, just like the Mccanns want. And they will find Madeleine! I know they wouldn’t like me saying that, but PJ are real “heroes” now, having to deal with what they have, plus your and British media criticism and accusations, but I know they would say “no, we are only doing our job”. And I must add, that much of your frustration and speculation about this issue is because your media hacks or invents many wrong and false things! This would be totally different if you were here, and read and watch the news as they come…slowly as it should be in a case like this. You can always use Google to translate but most of the meaning is lost because of automatic translation is not subjective. I am sorry, this is only because I think it is unffair, as unffair is also to judge the Mccanns before all things are cleared. So don’t judge the police, ok ? Just because they are finding the evidence leading a different way from the one you (everyone) wished ? They are doing their work everysecond, you may not see them on the ground because they don’t want you to, this police is always undercover, you even don’t know if they are already there, mixed in Rothley…
Sorry for the mistakes.
So, just sit and wait, meanwhile you can point out the news or present your theories, but let´s wait for the ACES!
September 11th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
what are the chances that the car rented by someone who could of abducted Maddie and had her in the trunk was then rented to the Mccanns 25 days after this abduction?
What are the chances that the Mccanns had something to do with Maddie’s disappearance, hid her body some place and then used the rented car to move it?
Problem is we dont know(for sure) what the DNA came from in the car….blood, hair, body fluids, skin flakes? If it is hair or skin…then sure it could of got there from transfer. BUT if it is body fluids or blood…then there is something very wrong and the parents had that car…so i guess the Mccanns look worse and worse as this goes on. The police do, and i believe they have other info they have not released. Isnt it funny the Mccanns were worried about their reputation? and now are worried about losing the twins? How worried were they when they left their small children alone
As far as the church…why would they need a key to pray in private? Reading some of Gerry’s blog entries…they would attend church separately and they would pop in for 10 minutes now and then to pray for Maddie.
I believe the rental place keeps records?
September 11th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
You said it star i really dont know who to believe or what to believe its just really messed up they seem to be the worst police ever they have made the biggest bag of bollocks on this case ever. Things seemed to get better once the UK police arrived at least they knew how to collect evidence!