Madeleine McCann: Watching The Parents
MORE no news on the Madeleine McCann case.
It is now a week since the three-year-old girl was snatched from a Portugal holiday resort.
The story has been distressing to watch on our TV screens. What it must like for the parents of Madeleine only a few can know.
BLAME
But their misery is far from complete. With no news of Madeleine, and the Portuguese police having no need to indulge the British tabloids with speculation and theory, Madeleine’s parents are the central characters.
And today’s front-page news, as reported by the caring Mirror, is: “THEY KNOW LEAVING KIDS WAS WRONG.”
Does the Mirror mean to say that Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry, now think they did the wrong thing in nipping out for a bite to eat and leaving the children in the apartment on what they thought was a secure resort?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns know that popping back regularly to look at their children and checking on their well being was less than perfect?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns realise they should not have left their children alone, just like it is wrong to leave a child in a hotel under the auspices of a baby monitoring service, to leave a child in the car while mum goes to pay for petrol, to talk to a neighbour over a garden fence while the children are indoors?
Of course this is not the Mirror’s view. Oh, no. This is Madeleine’s grandmother, Susan Healy, saying: “They know this was a mistake. But it wasn’t child neglect, it wasn’t not caring for your children.”
That she feels the need to say this is wrong. That the Mirror can lead with Madeleine’s grief-worn parents is pathetic and misguided. That the paper can talk of “people are asking why they didn’t make use of the crèche” at the resort or take the children out to dinner with them is wrong.
But the Mirror has news to write. And the police aren’t playing the game.
THEORIES
So the Mirror produces: “THE 6 THEORIES.”
Only six! Why this cautious approach? But it is all the Mirror has. And readers hear of the “PAEDOPHILE GANG”, the “LONE PAEDOPHILE”, the “JEALOUS MOTHER”, Madeleine wandering off and “DROWNED”, the “OPPORTUNIST PAEDOPHILE”, the “CHILDLESS COUPLE”.
But the Sun has more. It has 130 more. As the front-page headline screams: “MADDIE COPS HUNT 130 BRIT PAEDOS.”
The paper says “at least” 130 British paedophiles “might” have taken Madeleine McCann.
In “ALGARVE IS ‘HAVEN’ FOR PERVS”, readers learn that Portugal is a “magnet for sun-seeking perverts from Britain and the rest of Europe”.
Who knew that perverts get off on watching children at the beach?
Us And Them
But help is on its way. The Sun lists the British coppers who will go out there and see to it that justice is done. We, says the paper, are the only country with a sex offenders’ register.
All convicted perverts must inform the police of their desire to go abroad. At least 130 have. And the police are looking for them.
But – and whisper this – might it be that convicted sexual deviants don’t all tell the police what they plan to do? They are not monitored while overseas. And might it be that not all sexual predators are caught and make it to the list?
Among the policemans’ names is Detective Superintendent Graham Hill, attached to theChild Exploitation and Protection Centre. Hill is on the case. He has flown to Portugal.
Hill worked on the case of Milly Dowler. She was snatched from near Walton railway station, Surrey, in 2002. Her body was found six months later. Her killer or killers have never been caught.
Perhaps Hill’s experiences can help. Perhaps he’ll have more luck. Perhaps not.
Meanwhile, a family is distraught, and bearing up incredibly well under the strain and the merciless gaze of the newspapers…
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September 14th, 2007 at 1:17 am
You might want to look at this article it is very REVEALING ….I could never image, MY GOD ! I am out of words !
September 14th, 2007 at 1:06 am
Star: yes it is like that. They say the were making turns to watch them and most of the times they only listened to the door.. and as everything was quiet…they returned to the table. Nice way to watch kids…what if one wakes up, goes around in the dark room and puts the fingers in the holes of the 220V electricity power supplier ? No, sound …but BIG problem.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:01 am
powder monkey: you have a good point there, there is much we don’t know and police cannot, at this moment, be more specific and go into details. The DNA with a 88% match is referred here as being from body fluids, not blood, and as being found in the place for the spare tire (tyre ?) under the place for luggage. I read on France Soir, that this DNA sample also revealed a large amount of some kind of chemical used to induce sleep. The large amount of hair is referred as cluts of hair like when it is pulled from the head, I suppose this way there are lots of roots available to analyse. Regarding the issue about hidding the body, as that night all the events were directed by the Mccanns and friends always pointing an abduction, she could well have been hidden in another apartment, or still be in the apartment but inside something that was not searched, like a suitcase, for example. Such a tiny body fits well in a suitcase and that night all the searches were outside, because in the first moment nobody starts to suspect such a nice couple. The explanations about seeing a man carrying a child, referred here by Catt, are very strange because this explanation did not came from the Mccann’s friend in the first time she was enquired. It was by the 2nd or 3rd time, she suddenly “ah.. I remember now that…” so it seems a little bit preparated. And the description is so vague, that I almost fell out of my chair when I heard chief police in TV apllying for a “man about 1,70m, dark hair, caucasian, beige trousers, with a child, to present himself” ! I remember thinking, “but this is the description of 80% of the portuguese male population” and tells nothing!
About Mrs Fenn, she indeed was heard by the police, in her house, and what she said in TV and watched it, “was that she did not talk to the police”, maybe because she did not want problems. Of course she has the right to protect herself, but she was the one that came down on the 3rd May and offered to call the police, and then she did not because Mrs Mccann told her she already done so. Which was not true because the police was only called near 11pm, about an hour later, after Mrs Mccann phoned first to friends in England, family, and friends in the British media….and finally to the police, that was there after 10m. I don’t how Mrs Mccann could think that friends and family in England and the British press could help in that moment, since the little girl had disappeared in Portugal. Shouldn’t they call the police at once ? Unless the “media circus” that came after was already planned…
The theory of abduction is very very remote, let’s think:
They are doctors, well educated, they read, watch TV, etc. When they thought their daughter was abducted they must have thought, “OK, there must be evidence here in the apartment, footsteps, marks, odors, maybe fingerprints, let’s not spoil it all! But on the contrary, for about one hour they revolved the apartment, dozens of people went in and out, all the crime scene was damaged. The window they claim was forced, why did they go and put their hands on it ?
Because the police findings all match to fingerprints from the Mccanns and friends, as well as footsteps, hairs, etc. No evidence of other persons being in the room or the apartment. And I also believe that an abductor who kidnaps a girl that is sleeping with her toy (Cuddle Cat), would have taken her AND the Cuddle Cat. She would not use it where anyone could see, (she could be more easily identified) but the abductor would have ALL the interest in keeping the girl calm by letting her hold her toy while sleeping or when she cries for her parents. In my heart the Mccanns are guilty, if not of the crime, at least for letting their children alone, and in a repetitive way. In the abduction theory that they defend, they played the MOST important part: they left them alone!
When they landed in England and Mr Mccann made that (written) statement (for me it was a way to escape from the questions of the reporters) he should have said “we played no part in our daughter’s disappearance, MUCH LESS in her alleged death”, because this way, some persons can start to think they might have indeed have something to do with her death, but they were not the ones hidding the body.
September 14th, 2007 at 12:14 am
I was wondering about the time frame of eating…..where are we getting 7 - 10 hours….i thought the Mccanns put the children to bed at like 6.30 - 7.00 and found Maddie missing at 10?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Did a wellwisher put something nasty through Mrs Fenn’s letterbox?
September 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Further to my last post, it now appears that the lady (Mrs. Fenn?) in the apartment above the McCanns now says that she did not give a statement to the police about screams, raised voices, arguments or the like from the McCanns apartment prior to 3rd May and that she did not even know they were staying there
September 13th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
I’ve just read Catt’s post and unfortunately there are two important factual errors in the theory. Firstly, there was no bestiality or child porn found on Murat’s computer. There are reports of porn, but it was “regular” porn, for want of a better phrase. This does not make him a child abductor/murderer. It would appear from recent news reports that the Portuguese police no longer view him as a suspect although they have not offically changed his status. Secondly, Serge Malinka does not have a criminal record and nor, for that matter, does Murat.
There have been a number of comments here and elsewhere regarding the amount of wine consumed by the McCann party. If it is nine bottles over a 7 - 10 hour period then based on 6 average sized glasses per bottle, that works out, for 9 people, at a glass per hour or so. Not particularly heavy drinking and when combined with food not likely to make someone too drunk to function. Certainly, some were capable of walking to and from the apartments, unaided, to check on the children.
Regarding the blood, I base my comments on a number of years experience of working for two large police forces including scenes of crime work. If a DNA profile from blood is only an 88% match there is a great possibility that the blood is from one of Madeleine’s siblings. It would be interesting to know the form of blood source, that is to say, was the blood wet when deposited? If dry, it could be a secondary transfer - carried on one object which then left the blood trace in the car. Also of interest would be the location of the blood in the car - if in the boot then that begs many questions as to why it was there.
A number of media reports state that hair was found. Again, the lack of information makes many theories just guess work. Hair will not give a DNA profile unless there is root material attached. So, a shed hair or hair cutting will not provide a profile but a plucked hair would.
The use of the term ‘bodily fluid’ is strange in that I wonder if its use is to differentiate it from blood. Other bodily fluids from which DNA could be obtained include sweat and saliva - these would be from a live body. The use of the term bodily fluids suggests, to me, that the Portuguese mean a decomposing body but are reluctant to come out and say so.
If the McCanns are responsible for Madeleine’s death and then moved the body some 25 days later, I wonder when they got the opportunity, under all the media and public attention, to move a decomposing body. Without going into graphic detail I know, from experience, how difficult it is to manipulate a body that has been dead for that length of time. They would also have had to find, on the night of 3rd May, to quickly find a secure initial hiding place, not knowing how thorough any search would be. Surely they couldn’t have relied on a poor search by the Portuguese police, even if the police were looking for a living child and not a dead one?
Understandably, the police will be witholding information that could be crucial in securing a conviction but this also means that armchair pundits like us have little or no facts on which to base theories. All in all, a very curious case.
September 13th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
If nine people drank 14 bottles of wine over 7 - 10 hours, plus meals, and they were used to it … they wouldn’t be staggering drunken into the sea, with or without a body. Sorry - but they just wouldn’t. If you drank this much, and WEREN’T used to it .. you’d be comatose and probably incapable of anything. In any case, the wine consumed is the least of the worries. It’s just another reason to capture the high moral ground.
Anybody putting together this proposed theory of death, the concealment and subsequent removal of the body, plus the media circus …. would have had to be very sober indeed.
September 13th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Some papers say Blood some say it was just hair one says a full match another says 88% match its all hear say at the moment.
From what i have heard all along that having a holiday in portugal was safe and that it was Child orientated and had no known paedophiles in the area but they had not many years ago a case of a children’s home, from where children were allegedly supplied to prominent people for sex.
This was suposeddly run from 10 childrens homes since the 1970s, surely not every paedophile was caught and this tells me that thier is a big problem and not such a safe child orientated place. Yes and its the same in the rest of the world but Madeleine wasnt lost anywhere else. This happened until 2002 so it wasn’t that many years ago.
The McCann’s are also being treated in the same way as Joana Ciprianos Mother, although no body was found she is serving time in prison for her murder, maybe she and her brother did kill Joana evidence did lead to this but maybe the McCann’s didn’t the PJs in this case supposedly falsified evidence. not sure how true this story is but it makes me think twice about everything I hear.
September 13th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Dont know how accurate this is but i heard 9 people drank the wine. And they keep saying “body fluids” and lots of hair in the spare tire compartment in the trunk…
September 13th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
How many people drank 14 bottles of wine and if it was more than one bottle per person would that person not be walking in a drunken stupor carrying a child out to sea.
I also want to know if the DNA found in the boot of the car was definatly blood or is the media saying it may be blood?
September 13th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
The only fact we have to go on is Madeleine is missing. We dont know what happen that night, where she is, if she is alive or not. The only people that do know are the ones that are involved in her disappearance. We cannot say if the Mccanns are innocent or quilty of being involved. Only they know that.
If we go by what is in the news these days(who know what is reliable and what is not) then i would not want to be Kate and Gerry, because they are looking more and more involved as time goes on.
I hope God watches over Maddie and she does come home, but i also believe that is looking less and less likely as time goes on….
September 13th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
heya peeps. i do not think that gerry + kate mccann did that. i think they r totally innocent. i hope maddie returns soon as i am thinkin bowt her evry single day of the week + month.
USE R TOTALLY INNOCENT.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Does nobody else find it a little too coincidental that the day Maureen and Jimmy McCann arrive back in Britain Foot-and-Mouth mysteriously shows up Surrey?
September 13th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
p4
The opportunists watch carefully and wait for the right moment.
Someone from the ‘opportunists’ alerts the others that Gerry McCann has done his check.
They could have entered the room (staff have access to master keys)with keys or through the unlocked patio doors.
Passed Madeleine through the window(around the back) and had her in a car in less than 3 minutes.
Staff go back to their duties around the OC. Who is going to question them? - they work there - they were just doing their jobs.
Security guard goes back to his rounds - after all he is a security guard - why should he be suspect? Or casually walks either to Murat’s or the OC lobby – again why would he be suspect – he’s Murat’s friend and he works at the OC.
This gives a minimum of three people involved.
Also have the police traced the sailor on the boat who had been moored in the marina for over two years and decided to set sail the night Madeleine vanished?
There are so many gaffes in the initial investigation.
Things need to go back and be checked AGAIN.
All the DNA which is selling lots of newspapers and making this case just about the biggest in history WILL have an ending if they start again at the beginning - looking at that lot I have mentioned above.
SORRY I HAD TO SPLIT IT - TOO LONG FOR ONE POST
September 13th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
p3
McCann’s and friends go on holiday.
McCann’s, friends and others watched.
Especially by the big, dark bloke watching Gerry and the children.
Look at his clothes - light trousers - dark blue jacket style tied around his waist -next day when ‘helping’ the police with Murat - beige trousers.
My Theory..
All families at the Ocean Club were being watched closely – opportunist just waiting for the right moment.
McCann’s( unfortunately for Madeleine )provide it.
Woman upstairs from the McCann’s complains about the child crying until its parents come back.
McCann’s allegedly offered the ‘baby listening’ service.
McCann’s decline.
WHO knew their routine? OC staff.
Who had access to their apartment and would not have been queried if they happen to have been caught? OC staff –[ someone on the baby listening, maid. security guard]
Who would not have been questioned - let alone noticed hanging’ around the OC? A SECURITY GUARD…..A POOL MAN… they are in the RIGHT place.
They BOTH work there.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
p2
Someone abducted that child. These people are the answers to the clue.
Someone who would not be questioned if they were found in the McCann’s room.
- the woman upstairs had already reported Madeleine’s crying to the staff there. Who were those staff members?? Have they been fully investigated instead of a quick brush over? What is the big, dark man’s name? Was he on duty that night? (Good alibi for him)
C’mon give a theory as I did - I’m happy for comments. Take it apart piece by piece but, please, read it, think about it and then come back - before the usual rhetoric of - McCann’s did it …. i always knew….and all the other stuff which has them guilty when they need all the support they can get. There are many things about the McCann’s I don’t like either.. But that doesn’t make them guilty.
I would fight to the bitter end to clear my name if I was innocent.
I have sent what I have written below (not verbatim) to both SKY news and the Madeleine blog site (the official site does not appear to be working) I don’t know who else to send it to - other than the newspapers.
All I’m asking is if there is someone out there who knows or can do something - or you just want to comment - go ahead - My shoulders are broad enough to accept the onslaught.
September 13th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
p1.
I believe the McCann’s are doing everything they can to help clear their name.
Their daughter is missing. They must feel like banging their heads against the wall. They are guilty of leaving her and it is that guilt which has hurt them the most because they cannot take it back. We’d all love to see Madeleine walk through the door - Gerry and Kate more than most.
Most of the opinions on here have them ready for the electric chair.
If we go back to the beginning of the abduction and put all the pieces together - that’s where the answers lie.
The big dark-skinned man who was seen watching Gerry and family turns out to be a security guard at the Ocean Club. He is friends with Murat (bestiality and hard core porn found on his computer)- seen in photos the day after Madeleine went missing. – A friend of Serge (who has already been convicted of sex crimes)and Luis the pool guy(married to Murat’s girlfriend) from the Ocean Club…am I building a picture here???
September 13th, 2007 at 7:02 pm
Wishes that people would use a bit of common sense instead of believing everthing they read in newspapers. so sad.
September 13th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
I believe the McCann’s are doing everything they can to help clear their name.
Their daughter is missing. They must feel like banging their heads against the wall. They are guilty of leaving her and it is that guilt which has hurt them the most because they cannot take it back. We’d all love to see Madeleine walk through the door - Gerry and Kate more than most.
Most of the opinions on here have them ready for the electric chair.
If we go back to the beginning of the abduction and put all the pieces together - that’s where the answers lie.
The big dark-skinned man who was seen watching Gerry and family turns out to be a security guard at the Ocean Club. He is friends with Murat (bestiality and hard core porn found on his computer)- seen in photos the day after Madeleine went missing. – A friend of Serge (who has already been convicted of sex crimes)and Luis the pool guy(married to Murat’s girlfriend) from the Ocean Club…am I building a picture here???
Someone abducted that child. These people are the answers to the clue.
Someone who would not be questioned if they were found in the McCann’s room - don’t forget - the woman upstairs had already reported Madeleine crying to the staff there. Who were those staff members?? Have they been fully investigated instead of a quick brush over? What is the big, dark man’s name? Was he on duty that night? (Good alibi for him)
C’mon give a theory as I did - I’m happy for comments. Take it apart piece by piece but, please, read it, think about it and then come back - before the usual rhetoric of - McCann’s did it …. i always knew….and all the other stuff which has them guilty when they need all the support they can get. There are many things about the McCann’s I don’t like either.. But that doesn’t make them guilty.
I would fight to the bitter end to clear my name if I was innocent.
I have sent what I have written below (not verbatim) to both SKY news and the Madeleine blog site (the official site does not appear to be working) I don’t know who else to send it to - other than the newspapers.
All I’m asking is if there is someone out there who knows or can do something - or you just want to comment - go ahead - My shoulders are broad enough to accept the onslaught.
McCann’s and friends go on holiday.
McCann’s, friends and others watched.
Especially by the big, dark bloke watching Gerry and the children.
Look at his clothes - light trousers - dark blue jacket style tied around his waist -next day when ‘helping’ the police with Murat - beige trousers.
My Theory..
All families at the Ocean Club were being watched closely – opportunist just waiting for the right moment.
McCann’s( unfortunately for Madeleine )provide it.
Woman upstairs from the McCann’s complains about the child crying until its parents come back.
McCann’s allegedly offered the ‘baby listening’ service.
McCann’s decline.
WHO knew their routine? OC staff.
Who had access to their apartment and would not have been queried if they happen to have been caught? OC staff –[ someone on the baby listening, maid. security guard]
Who would not have been questioned - let alone noticed hanging’ around the OC? A SECURITY GUARD…..A POOL MAN… they are in the RIGHT place.
They BOTH work there.
The opportunists watch carefully and wait for the right moment.
Someone from the ‘opportunists’ alerts the others that Gerry McCann has done his check.
They could have entered the room (staff have access to master keys)with keys or through the unlocked patio doors.
Passed Madeleine through the window(around the back) and had her in a car in less than 3 minutes.
Staff go back to their duties around the OC. Who is going to question them? - they work there - they were just doing their jobs.
Security guard goes back to his rounds - after all he is a security guard - why should he be suspect? Or casually walks either to Murat’s or the OC lobby – again why would he be suspect – he’s Murat’s friend and he works at the OC.
This gives a minimum of three people involved.
Also have the police traced the sailor on the boat who had been moored in the marina for over two years and decided to set sail the night Madeleine vanished?
There are so many gaffes in the initial investigation.
Things need to go back and be checked AGAIN.
All the DNA which is selling lots of newspapers and making this case just about the biggest in history WILL have an ending if they start again at the beginning - looking at that lot I have mentioned above.
FIND THE BIG DARK GUY AND GRILL HIM AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO APPEAR SO OFTEN IN THE PICTURES AROUND THE MADELEINE INVESTIGATION – AND I BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND HER. THEY HOLD THE KEY.
IF it turns out that there is a confession (although I know this will not happen) from either of the McCann’s and I am totally wrong - I promise I will come back on this forum and apologise for being duped/stupid and totally naive.
All I ask is that you spend a couple of minutes reading what I have written - each day that passes makes another day that child is without either being found alive or justice. Isn’t that what you want too? Thanks.
September 13th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
thanks again sandra…after reading part of that link, i had to stop and think….
During the meetings, it was explained to the editors that the fact that Portuguese Police can’t find a body is a clear evidence of the innocence of Gerry and Kate. (that is a joke)
and this part makes me really mad…
The McCann send, at the same time, a strong challenge to Portuguese police: “Find Madeleine’s body and prove we killed her”, as the Daily Mail writes, in today’s edition.
(talk about acting like a child)
I’m almost afraid to read the rest
September 13th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
There is this link, it is from a journalist investigator very close to the case, you may want to have a look
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/09/justine-mcguiness-and-angus-mcbride-met.html
September 13th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
Amazed…..I guess your right. If the Mccanns are innocent and have nothing to do with Maddie’s disappearance, then yes they would be victims also. BUT we dont know that. Something is very wrong with this case and alot of things just dont add up.
Like i have said…i dont know the Mccanns, but IMO something is not right with them either. I just cant put my finger on it.
September 13th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Sandra…another thing i noticed is how the Mccanns seem to be having a good old time with the twins AFTER Maddie disappeared. Seemed strange to me. I mean i know they have to be strong for their 2 remaining children, but if my child was missing i would be a basket case. I would probably have to be sedated.
None of us know the Mccanns and we can only go by what we see now. Who knows how their “family” life really was. Professionals can tell alot by body language and by what Kate has written in her diary i’m sure.
September 13th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Well, Star, if the McCanns ARE innocent, then they too are victims - of the same person / people who made Madeleine a victim … plus the PJ investigatory methods.
Anyone who says, as someone here did, that if you’re innocent then you have nothing to fear and don’t need lawyers is being naive beyond belief. And if I were an innocent arguido being ‘tried’ in the world’s media, and enduring the police giving alarming credence to forensic evidence I knew to be false, I would certainly be lining up the QCs. Don’t think I’d have gone for the Pinochet one though, as I don’t see what his anti-extradition talents can contribute in the EU.
And if they’re guilty, they need lawyers even more. Repellent though such a crime might be, one is still entitled to good representation and a fair trial. I wouldn’t personally contribute to a fund for their legal costs, but I didn’t contribute to the other one either. They might be middle-class professionals (which seems to get up some people’s noses) but with no income, it won’t be long before they have to sell the house, and £400,000 won’t go far when you have lawyers bills and no roof over your head. And which bit of the NHS would employ them whilst they are arguidos - a state which could last for months. It’s true they could recoup by selling their story after a trial IF they are found innocent, but I doubt if they feel secure enough to look forward to that at the moment.
With due respect to the understandable national pride of Portuguese posters here, I have to say the PJ have made a terrific hash of all this. I don’t care how many overseas training courses they have attended - they either weren’t listening or their English or whatever wasn’t good enough. The fact that they have less experience in this sort of case may reflect well on Portugal and badly on us, though of course our population is several times theirs. However, there really is no excuse for dozens of people tramping over the crime scene, not securing it immediately in the case of a missing child, possibly contaminating forensic evidence by wearing only (one pair of) gloves and no coveralls when collecting evidence; failing to clear the parents first before leaping for an arguido on the basis that a reporter thinks he’s weird; belatedly processing a car rented 25 days later in an underground car park AND THEN GIVING IT BACK ….
… and THEN allowing the suspected parents to carry on using it, and to allow it to be put somewhere safe (and you don’t know where) so that the parents can send in their own forensic team to contest your evidence (what an own goal!).
No matter what the PJ know that we don’t know, the above facts have not been disputed. And, reportedly, they now want the (washed) Cuddle Cat, a diary, a laptop etc. etc. , all of which should have been taken four months ago, if only to exonerate the parents and clear the way for an investigation into an abduction. This is not the wisdom of hindsight or speculation. Anyone who watches Forensic Detectives or CSI would know all this.
Whether they are innocent or guilty, this is a botched investigation. If they are innocent of murder or manslaughter (and I tend to think they must be merely because the hiding / disposal of a body for / after that length of time is almost fantastically unlikely, no matter what you think of them as individuals) then they are in a truly horrendous situation. If they are guilty, then the PJ is fast losing virtually every opportunity to comprehensively prove its case.
And before the PJ dig up all the roadworks by hand, as apparently they might, I suggest they try archaeological ground radar imaging - it’s quicker, and even if pipework is present it can suggest a cavity where a decomposing body might be buried.
Personally, I think they should arrest the priest immediately, and possibly subpoena the Pope, who clearly knows more than he’s admitting. Not serious….
September 13th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Another thing…and by opposition of what is said in the diary, when we see the couple with the twins, and we saw them many times before, the twins always look so calm, quiet and apathic, I remember thinking how calm they are at this age, comparing to my children. Mine were and are always singing, talking, running around, looking and commenting things, they are very LIVE!
One of this example of calm I remember best is when the couple arrives at Rothley and we can see Gerry carryng Sean and going to the door. Sean looks like a “puppet”, with due respect for the child and I am sorry, but we can see that. There he is, starring at us, is arms down…no movement, no excitment for returning home, and finally he turns his head towards someone that is at the door, but again not really reacting. What a HUGE difference, not at all agressive, hyperactive or agressive…this makes us thing again about sedation ?!!?!?
September 13th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Sandra…..Thanks for the post. Being in the states, i’m sure we dont get as much news as those in Portugal and the UK. How awful!! I hate to say, but i never really cared for Kate. Dont know why. Gerry seems like a business man, him and his campaign. I really hope i am wrong, but from day one i thought the parents knew something about what happen that night.
One might guess by what you said about the diary, that the children got in the way of Kate and Gerry having their HOLIDAY. I have wondered why they took the children if they wanted to leave them in a day care place during the day and then leave them in an unlocked apartment in a strange country at night while they were out having dinner. Why not leave them at home with gramma? (after reading they may have had 10 or more bottles of wine between the 9 of them, were any of them able to care for children? One child was left sick and vomiting? and one of the party was quoted as saying…so what we were drinking, we were on Holiday) I have a feeling we will all be stunned by the news that eventually comes out about lil Maddie!!
September 13th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Sorry, I forgot to mention, Kate’s diary is important in the investigation not (of course) to reveal details of the couple private life but as way to determine Kate’s state of mind and evaluate the need for immediate psichological evaluation and treatment for the couple. It seem that what they are is very different than what they show us as being “the perfect family”, in the photos and TV, hand in hand…
They were already evaluated by body language scientists and the diary is very important to analyze their personality profile and behaviour, especially because of the twins.
September 13th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Star: There were news today, about an hour ago, in TV …the police has in fact a COPY Kate’s diary so it is not the mystery object. They do not need to seize the original. A passage of the diary was revealed and Kate describes her children as “hyperactive, agressive and unbearable”. Many passages reflect how she feels fed up, without strength and very tired having no support or help from Gerry. She says the children take her strenght away. Other passages reflect they the children did not sleep throught the night and “it was 11:30 pm, the children did not sleep and didn´t know what to do anymore”…
The 3rd May page is…..blank
My God, what a nightmare…
September 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
After reading today’s news i see the body fluids and hair from Maddie were found where you would keep the spare tire in the trunk? And they want to get a hold of cuddle cat? Well that would of been good 4 months ago, but what can they get from the toy now? Mom has washed it(probably numerous times) Also i fault the Mccanns for now telling them Maddie went to bed with the toy(if she did)
So much has been messed up according to what we read….