Madeleine McCann: Watching The Parents
MORE no news on the Madeleine McCann case.
It is now a week since the three-year-old girl was snatched from a Portugal holiday resort.
The story has been distressing to watch on our TV screens. What it must like for the parents of Madeleine only a few can know.
BLAME
But their misery is far from complete. With no news of Madeleine, and the Portuguese police having no need to indulge the British tabloids with speculation and theory, Madeleine’s parents are the central characters.
And today’s front-page news, as reported by the caring Mirror, is: “THEY KNOW LEAVING KIDS WAS WRONG.”
Does the Mirror mean to say that Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry, now think they did the wrong thing in nipping out for a bite to eat and leaving the children in the apartment on what they thought was a secure resort?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns know that popping back regularly to look at their children and checking on their well being was less than perfect?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns realise they should not have left their children alone, just like it is wrong to leave a child in a hotel under the auspices of a baby monitoring service, to leave a child in the car while mum goes to pay for petrol, to talk to a neighbour over a garden fence while the children are indoors?
Of course this is not the Mirror’s view. Oh, no. This is Madeleine’s grandmother, Susan Healy, saying: “They know this was a mistake. But it wasn’t child neglect, it wasn’t not caring for your children.”
That she feels the need to say this is wrong. That the Mirror can lead with Madeleine’s grief-worn parents is pathetic and misguided. That the paper can talk of “people are asking why they didn’t make use of the crèche” at the resort or take the children out to dinner with them is wrong.
But the Mirror has news to write. And the police aren’t playing the game.
THEORIES
So the Mirror produces: “THE 6 THEORIES.”
Only six! Why this cautious approach? But it is all the Mirror has. And readers hear of the “PAEDOPHILE GANG”, the “LONE PAEDOPHILE”, the “JEALOUS MOTHER”, Madeleine wandering off and “DROWNED”, the “OPPORTUNIST PAEDOPHILE”, the “CHILDLESS COUPLE”.
But the Sun has more. It has 130 more. As the front-page headline screams: “MADDIE COPS HUNT 130 BRIT PAEDOS.”
The paper says “at least” 130 British paedophiles “might” have taken Madeleine McCann.
In “ALGARVE IS ‘HAVEN’ FOR PERVS”, readers learn that Portugal is a “magnet for sun-seeking perverts from Britain and the rest of Europe”.
Who knew that perverts get off on watching children at the beach?
Us And Them
But help is on its way. The Sun lists the British coppers who will go out there and see to it that justice is done. We, says the paper, are the only country with a sex offenders’ register.
All convicted perverts must inform the police of their desire to go abroad. At least 130 have. And the police are looking for them.
But – and whisper this – might it be that convicted sexual deviants don’t all tell the police what they plan to do? They are not monitored while overseas. And might it be that not all sexual predators are caught and make it to the list?
Among the policemans’ names is Detective Superintendent Graham Hill, attached to theChild Exploitation and Protection Centre. Hill is on the case. He has flown to Portugal.
Hill worked on the case of Milly Dowler. She was snatched from near Walton railway station, Surrey, in 2002. Her body was found six months later. Her killer or killers have never been caught.
Perhaps Hill’s experiences can help. Perhaps he’ll have more luck. Perhaps not.
Meanwhile, a family is distraught, and bearing up incredibly well under the strain and the merciless gaze of the newspapers…
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September 24th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Reported in the Daily Express today : Portuguese police believe the McCann’s friends are helping them to cover up their role in killing Madeleine. These friends may now be named as suspects. I’m not sure what benefits this gives the Portuguese police (Brenda, seeing as you live in the Algarve, could you enlighten me?) as because it gives the suspect the right to silence, wouldn’t they just clam up and exercise that right?
Same report : Not only is Robert Murat expected to be cleared but he may be used as a prosecution witness against the McCanns. This chap must feel like a ping pong ball, first the police suspect him, now they want his help!
Again, same report : the police have new witnesses (note the plural) who cast doubt on the evidence given by the McCanns & friends. Some of these are employees at the tapas restaurant and one, an “unnamed Irishman”, refutes the sighting by Jane Tanner of a man carrying a child. I wonder why it has taken so long to find these witnesses. The Irishman may have taken some time to trace but surely not this long. If he was at the same place at the time Jane Tanner allegedly saw this male, I assume he was staying at the same holiday complex, and his details would be easily obtainable. Indeed, I would have expected everyone, staff, holiday makers, delivery people etc to have been interviewed immediately after Madeleine’s disappearance. This delay in locating witnesses is even stranger regarding the employees at the restaurant.
I must stress that this is only one source - I haven’t seen it repeated elsewhere. I personally find the Daily Express reasonably balanced. Not as bad as the Sun but maybe not as respected as, say, The Times. People are obviously free to put their own level of trust in this report.
With regard to the hiring of private investigators, I’m not surprised the McCanns have done this and am more surprised that it appears to be a very recent step. Considering the amount of money available from the fund it would be an obvious tactic and in keeping with the purpose of the fund.
Slightly off topic so please forgive me : Star, as you live in the USA and will probably have far more knowledge of private investigators than I, may I ask you the following. Are they much use in real life? Is a person under any legal obligation to answer their questions? If not, surely anyone with someone to hide will just tell them to go away? My experience is, unfortunately, confined to Raymond Chandler, the Rockford Files etc.
As a final thought, given the multi national aspect of this case (Morocco, Spain, Belgium, England and Portugal) I haven’t seen any mention of Interpol, has anyone else? I’m sure their expertise would help.
September 24th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
what can the McCanns do right for you first they dont care because they havnt called in the private detectives (reason for this they were not allowed to work on the case) now that they have called a ex sas squad in to look for her they are trying to cover up something, God you people are hard to please dont think that anything will please you.
If alchohol makes you infertile then i would like to know why the hell i got pregnant 6 times, I and drank like a fish when i was a student ( i was a Drunken student ), why didnt that work for me and why have the doctors not prescribed this as a liquid form of the pill. I think the fact that Kate got her party days over as a student and was ready to settle down because she had been there and done that as they say.
Brenda if the police have all of this so called evidence (that has later been proved to be over exagerated) then why are the McCanns not being requestioned if this is so and they have proof that the McCanns are guilty why are they not being charged.
Also going over another case that is simalar again in the Joana case the screwed up the evidence by not sealing of the crime scence (same as the McCanns) they then after searching and everything else not coming to them easily turned on the Parents or family (same as the McCanns) the police involved are being charged with giving false evidence (McCanns were exagerated) it seems the way that the cases are run over there.
But also Mr Sousa the article i read was of what he said not someone else saying and he said he didnt agree with what some police were doing and he also stated that this was how the media gets most information on most cases.
From what i have read in potuguese and british and the news i feel that all of the evidence that got the McCanns questioned in the first place has turned to be alot of lies and exageration
I dont think they are guilty of harming Madeliene i think they would change what happened on the 3rd of may and would never leave the children if they had that chance yes they are guilty of not being there for Madeliene that night but thats all i think they are Guilty of.
September 24th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
#1925 - I agree Tommygun. Im unsure whether the McCanns are guilty of more than child neglect but some of these comments really are wild speculation. I hope none of the people who are making them ever get to sit on a jury.
September 24th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
I see ‘Sandra’ has reappeared under the name ‘Brenda’! Why is he or she so determined that the Mccanns be found guilty?
September 24th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Nobody knows the facts!!!
Apart from three young children were left to fend for themselves!!!
One went missing (possibly)
The two parents have made life hard for police.
These are the facts, and people still question the finger pointing!!
September 24th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Oh please !! Alcohol makes you infertile and Kate is a murderer because she got drunk at University? HELLO ?????? This blog is becoming rather stupid in places. Stick to the facts until we see the evidence please!
September 24th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Personally I find this whole issue with Clarence Mitchell baffling to say the least. By his own admission he was approached to take on this “publicity” stunt job by the McCanns. He was employed by the Government -pretty secure and quite well paid I would think? Is this job with the McCanns a side-line or has he resigned from his Government based job to do this media thing full time? As a taxpayer - I really would like to know the answer - I also think that we should “look outside the box”. With regard to why the McCanns would need a media spokesperson - unless they are either hoping or expecting to be in the “news” for a very long time. Nobody would give up a job to take on a temp. job under very unstable circumstances when they have been used to the Government cushion. There are a lot of things which just do not add up. I listened to a brief interview on TV at lunchitme today when Mitchell was asked a question - his response was “no comment” - something I have heard him say countless times since his appointment. The McCanns could easily have delivered a “no comment” couldn’t they?
September 24th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Isn´t that all a bit going overboard with finding M.? What is next? Money and more money thrown into that case.
The McCanns could also use up maybe Bill Gates Fund? What about that?
I also find the spokesperson a bit too much. Because he doen´t have anything to do really they come up with some weird stories and statements. Of course also the press is coming up with old stories again.
September 24th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
They just announced here on our news…in reference to the AMBER ALERT we have here for missing children. You can now sign up for a service that is FREE and text messages will go out when a child is reported missing. ANOTHER GREAT IDEA….Those in the states can contact their provider for info.
Why did they wait so long to get these SAS people? Alot was probably lost in the last 145 days……I hope they do find some new info and solve this case SOON!!
September 24th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
The McCanns now have SAS working for them in the help to find their daughter.
God help the abductors of Madeleine and anyone who knows who did it if they get their hands on them- secrets or not.
If there is something to be found - those guys will find it. They are the best trained soldiers in the world. I wouldn’t like to be in the shoes of anyone who is standing in their way of completing a mission.
September 24th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
What is it with Gerry always scratching his nose or ear if it comes to a critical question?? It looks like a little demonstration out of a “body language” book.
And what about almost every sentence containing “to be honest”. Normally they are not honest?
September 24th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
I am from the states, and we have not had much news about Madeleine. We were told what happen on May 3rd and we did not see much more until they started looking at Gerry and Kate, or should i say Kate. Then the story showed up on the local tv news and in the local paper here.
We are all allowed to post OUR thoughts on this case because we dont know anything actually, other than Madeleine was left alone in an apartment with her twin brother and sister (well now questions have been raised about who saw Madeleine last and when this was…oh yes and the bit about her being in two places to eat high tea(with mummy and daddy at the resturant and also at the creche with the staff?)while mummy and daddy had dinner (that they already had with the children at the resturant?) We even have friends of the Mccanns (who dont want to be identified) saying they were there or they were not.
Some of us think the Mccanns are involved and some think they are totally innocent, even condoning them leaving the children and drinking. If you leave a child in a car here to run in a store…you better hope no one sees and calls for the police. You will have lots of explaining to do, you will go to court and pay a fine and may even do some jail time. I live in a rural area and have not left my 13 yr old son until this year and that was only to run to get my 10 yr old daughter at school. He stayed in the house while i was gone with the door locked and was on the phone to me a few times. Hate to admit there are alot of sick people out there and parents have to be there to protect their kids. IMO they knew it was wrong to leave them(what parent wouldnt?)…why did they not use the baby sitting service(yes i know we have been over this too many times)…they just say if they knew it was not safe they would not of done it…..they did it everynight…this we hear Kate say in an interview so i suppose we can take that as the truth. Like i said before, they put their good time BEFORE 3 small children. That says alot. Now since none of us know the Mccanns we cant say what type of people or parents they are…but we shake our heads at what went on that night, that week and over the last 144 days while they were on FAMILY Holiday…They used poor judgement on the night of May 3rd. They have family and friends talking about things they are not suppose to discuss. And how the Mccanns are in a smear campaign?
I just read…
The fact that there is period of two hours, during which Spanish Police wasn’t able to find traces of the McCann couple and the hired car, aroused some suspicion with the PJ, reinforced with the presence of the Renault Scenic in some specific places, without justification. The McCann hired car appears in several videos, seized by Spanish Police.
The day the McCann choose to go to Huelva, to campaign for Madeleine – with leaflets only in Portuguese – is also considered “strange” by Portuguese Police. Huelva has a unique holiday on August 3 and the all people concentrates in downtown, in what it’s called “Feria Colombina” celebrating the departure of Colombo to discover America. Shopping malls and most commercial activities close, including churches and the cathedral, where the McCann wanted to go to pray, as they told to the Press.
What can this all mean? Something else for us to wonder about. Everyone has their own opinion. Some of us think that Madeleine is alive and will be found, some think the Mccanns are hiding something, some think they are totally innocent and some think lil Madeleine is no longer with us. This whole story is strange, too may inconsistencies and too many loose ends. Without ANY REAL info to go on, all we can do is guess…..
September 24th, 2007 at 12:40 pm
I also think what Brenda writes is a load of old poppycock.
You are assuming that all the readers are from the UK. Star and Andrew are the least credible sources as all they do it take as many swipes at the McCanns as is possible in one post and you suck it all up as it suits your thinking.
There is only one certain thing at the moment and always ever has been.
Madeleine was left alone and is still missing. The Portuguese police have lost the plot and are trying to backtrack on all the leaked security. I feel sorry for the genuine policmen who are trying to do a decent job at the expense of their fellow workmates who throw out morsels for a decent lunch. And what may I ask is adjectivated?
Your statement of “If one has close connections to people near the investigations, maybe you can know better. There is a secrecy law and I am not going to break it, never! The only thing I can tell you is be impartial and
KEEP THINKING !”
Connected are you? Another idiot.
September 24th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Thousands of kids are left alone for days at a time???
where????
Not Rothley Leics per chance??
September 24th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Well….FIRST I did not write my earlier message to ANYONE in particular, not even mentioned names…..the only I mentioned was Star and Andrew as good examples of “watching the parents…” The others…well if they think it fits, it fits….
SECOND ..I never said I believed the portuguese media and my example about the english media was of DISTORTION of news I read here. I never said that these news were true here, I said they are bad translated, twisted, and wrongly adjectivated. This corresponds to a -LIE- when the original source is mentioned and you go there and the text and sense is totally different. And this does not mean that the original text is true! It can be a lie, and become a second lie in english if twisted with some adjectives. The difference here is that we do not believe all we read, we only (can ) believe when someone makes a formal statement, that is the right way to get your information. You have the place, time and name of the person or persons! The papers need to sell, so they write anything to keep the story going. If for days there are no news…. they make them up, but here we have a problem, we are very close to the events and the law, and besides the portuguese people mainly supported the Mccanns, there is really no need to make things up, there is no special interest in our media in twisting things. Most things I read here attack police, of course… we are portuguese, anyone is better, hey ? Traditional feeling of inferiority.
In England it is easier to make up things and distort, you can always say it was a bad translation, and so on…. and besides, you have the Mccann family trying to bring everybody to their side. It seems like the media has to defend and protect their fellow citizens from a naughty police who wants to frame them.
If one has close connections to people near the investigations, maybe you can know better. There is a secrecy law and I am not going to break it, never! The only thing I can tell you is be impartial and
KEEP THINKING !
September 24th, 2007 at 11:49 am
AH!AH!!!!!
The McCanns launched a WORLWIDE campain in search of their daugther. Now they are sure she -dead or alive- is in PORTUGUESE territory….
GOD! Who are they wanting to make a fool of ?
Chris, the link is interesting….I have to take some more time and read all the informations, but that one about SPAIN and HUELVA, makes us think!!!
September 24th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Well Brenda, for once I am almost lost for words. But not quite.
Anyone with a brain not totally befuddled with alcohol, to use your own image, would not think that the Portuguese media is any more reliable than the British. Anyone with a brain etc. would know that one should not necessarily believe everything published in any of them. You, on the other hand, seem to believe everything you read in the Portuguese papers and nothing that you read in the British papers. Not very balanced. Your claim to be an unbiased thinker is ludicrous considering what you have written.
And if you would care to read my own previous posts a bit more carefully than you clearly read the Portuguese papers, then you would realise that I did not say that I was a drunken student. I was a student many decades ago, and couldn’t afford to get drunk. I merely said that slandering Kate as a drunken student was ridiculous as nearly all students get drunk (here at any rate) and that she was now 39. Plenty of time to have given up binge drinking. I am also happy to report that any drinking I may have done when younger most certainly did not result in infertility, and based on our comparative abilities to stay impartial, you’ve lost more brain cells than me.
All I have ever said is that I don’t see how the parents could have done it logistically. I have also commented that I never left small children alone, and think they were wrong to have done so. And I comment on those who seem dedicated to believing every daft theory about how they might have managed this crime - none of which seem to be giving the Portuguese police much confidence. They haven’t charged them, brought them back to Portugal, or indeed gained the respect of the examining judge so far as I can see.
September 24th, 2007 at 11:37 am
If you follow this site regularly …you’ll find many news BEFORE they come to the media…
And all of them Accurate!
http://gazetadigital.blogspot.com/
September 24th, 2007 at 11:23 am
For the ones thinking the Mccanns are completely innocent….you are believing every crap you read in the media, you are choosing to be “blind” (the worst kind of blindness), you even admit doing things yourselves just to excuse the Mccanns, such as “well I used to be a drank myself at university”… and in conclusion, for you the Mccanns are the perfect parents, because they have MONEY and can BUY anything they want to make you believe ANYTHING they want.
You know, alchool kills brain cells, lots of them, and they are never recovered, and if you choose to be “blind” in this issue at least be impartial. There are some posts here that make me doubt who are the formal suspects ? The Mccanns and Murat or the Police ? You are so sure to defend the Mccanns…and so sure attacking the police, it is amazing !! Your conviction in this issue goes to the police, the only ones looking for Madeleine, dead or alive!
And only because the line of the investigation does not please you! Well, it does not please anyone , but that does not make some people here to be “blind”. I can read people like Star and Andrew and I only can say one thing:
They have BRAINS ! They do not “eat” everything they see in the media, they analize and Think! These are the only posters I’ve seen here doing a “good job” related to the theme of this forum : “Watching the Parents….” It does not mean they condemn the parents, it means only they are alert to any possibilities. The other posters seem to belong to a forum “Protecting the parents…” as they cannot rationalize that no one here is convicting the Mccanns, just WATCHING !
It is a pity you cannot have access to accurate information and you have to base your posts in news that are completely twisted, sometimes translated in another way and other times emphasized when there was no emphasis in the original piece of information. I’ve seen awfull examples of this when english papers mention their sources from being portuguese media, then i go to the portuguese media and there is NOTHING! Other times there are small references and the english papers change the sentences with adjectives that are not in the original from portuguese media and the phrases are understood in another way ! It is awful what the bristish media are doing to the british people, believe me I am shocked, never thought this could happen,…reminds me of George Orwell, and the Big Brother… 21st century and the media can control millions….
Yet I am glad some still have their eyes very opened…and keep that way. No one knows if tomorrow you’ll have “brain wash” on another issue that might affect your future, right ? After all we are all free, but some are “more free” than others. The media have the “tools” to control your mind! So I can only say one thing to finish:
Keep watching the parents
Don’t condemn anyone, parents or police
Condemn only the media for telling lies after lies and believe my I know….
I live in the Algarve, about 10 Km from Praia da Luz.
Many things are going on since the 3rd May, YOU JUST HAVE NO IDEA and you can’t have, you are millions appart.
I can state on example: Any newspaper can say they got information from a police leak, even if that is not true. The most astonishing thing I read lately is how the british media turned the Mr Olegário Sousa issue saying he “quit because was disappointed and did not agree with the leaks, etc etc..” This is a complete lie!!! Mr Sousa was only a SPOKESMAN for the media. While the investigation was with the PJ his job was to speak when needed. BUT AS THE PROCESS IS NOW IN THE PROSECUTION , THE PROSECUTION IS THE ONE SPEAKING FROM NOW ON….his job was complete as for the PJ, but the PJ has passed the process to the MAgistrates, so the Higher Magistrate spoke to the portuguese media, indicating the process is going on and is now UNDER the Prosecution, this is way, the position of Mr Sousa, which was temporary a Spokesman for the case, becomes unnecessary. Mr Sousa did not resign from the PJ, as stated by other newspapers. MR de SOusa was to the police the equivalent of Mr Clarence Mitchell for the MCanns!
This is a P E R F E C T example of how the english papers are “molding” public opinion to turn it totally pro-Mccann! I am not “pro” or “against”, I only have a brain… and it works very well, wonder if it is because I never liked alchool….
Heavy drunkers (even for only sometime)…. CAN BECOME INFERTILE
Keep Thinking !!!
September 24th, 2007 at 6:15 am
The parents left their children alone. It was wrong. There are plenty of people out there who have not taken sufficient care with the kids at one time or another. Most of us can think back to some incident or other where we were careless or stupid and can only thank heaven that what might have happened didn’t happen. The McCanns have been punished more than enough through the loss of their daughter. Perhaps the one good thing that can come out of this terrible tragedy is that we all take a little more care in the future.
September 24th, 2007 at 3:18 am
Another bit of interesting news…..they cant even agree on where they had dinner, if Kate and Gerry were there and the man has video of them? (oh and Madeleine danced with her daddy? BUT they say Madeleine ate with staff from the creche that night and then was picked up by Kate and Gerry…..
Madeleine’s Last Images?
The renewed media focus on Murat came shortly after ABC News and other media outlets learned a beachside restaurant’s closed-circuit camera allegedly photographed Madeleine McCann and her siblings dining just hours before the girl, who now would be 4, went missing.
The images of the McCanns and their friends at the Paraiso restaurant around 5:30 p.m. on May 3, which were said to be turned over to police, would be the last known images of Madeleine before her disappearance.
Eyewitnesses and the video — as described to ABC News by Paraiso’s owner Miguel Reyes — appeared to refute another published Portuguese report in which an anonymous source claimed a group of friends did not see the McCanns at the restaurant. Kate and Gerry McCann, Maddie’s parents, who also have been declared suspects by Portuguese authorities, have claimed they were at the restaurant early on the evening their daughter went missing.
“I was not here that night,” Reyes told ABC News, “but I reviewed the footage from that night myself and both the McCanns were here with their friends, and so were their children.”
Saturday’s edition of 24horas, a local Portuguese daily, reported that a friend on holiday with the McCanns who asked not to be identified said none of the seven friends traveling with the McCanns saw Madeleine during the entire afternoon of May 3.
“The children in the group had dinner at Paraiso, but the McCanns were not there,” the source allegedly told the paper, adding that they only saw Kate and Gerry again for dinner in the Tapas restaurant at about 8:30 p.m. that night.
“The group went [to Paraiso] many times,” the source added, according to the article. “But I am certain that on the day of May 3, Kate and Gerry were not there.”
Here we go with the 8.30 dinner at Tapas…..they put the children to bed and left? That was a bit after 6…how long did it take to get to dinner?
September 24th, 2007 at 3:09 am
Read this in tonights news:
Kate and Gerry McCann have hired a firm of private investigators to help them track their missing daughter, Madeleine, it has emerged.
The couple have sought help from Control Risks Group, a detective-style agency which employs ex-SAS members and former military personnel
**About time, but i think they are 143 days late
**I found it a bit odd, there is a pic of the Mccanns with the twins….and they have BLURRED the twins faces…isnt it a bit late for that?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/24/nmaddy124.xml
September 23rd, 2007 at 11:23 pm
I dont think the parents were involved at all in any of it, if you think about it, look how hard they have worked to try and find maddie. Do you think they would have gone this far, without being caught out? I do think they shouldn’t have left thier kids alone, but they do feel guilty about it, thousands of kids these days are left alone for more than a day at times! Whoever took maddie needs to sort themselfs out, get the poor child back to her mummy and daddy, then everyone would be happy. No one knows whats going to happen but I just hope she gets found soon. People are saying thet maddie is being used for child pornography of being sold as a slave, well i just hope that nothing SICK like that is happening to this little angel. Good luck maddie, hope your safe, soon you will be back where you belong x x x
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:36 pm
As Star says, the McCanns’ friends have plenty to say. I’m sure the McCanns speak to them about what the Portuguese police have asked them about and told them, and the McCanns’ friends then release that to the world. It’s a way of the McCanns getting round the secrecy laws and, given the leaks from the police and the mud slinging, I can’t say that I blame them for doing so, to redress the balance as it were.
It may be as Emma says, that the McCanns accidentally killed Madeleine but, if so, I cannot understand why they would then conceal the fact if it were a genuine accident. Maybe I’m too cynical, but I can only think they would cover up the fact if the accident were the result of something illegal. But, as I’ve said before, what could they fear so badly that they would cover up the death of their daughter, especially after they went through IVF to conceive her in the first place. This then leads me to thinking, if an accidental death wouldn’t make them cover it up, would a non-accidental death do so? The other voice in my head says to balance this with the lack of firm evidence that Madeleine is dead or that the McCanns were responsible. That and the ever present point of innocent until proven guilty.
Makes me wonder if the friends, with the changed and contradicting testemonies, are more of a hinderance than a help.
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
With all that money they couldn’t afford a person to take care of their children? There’s so much cover up for their mistakes and actions it’s amazing. ‘I closed the door thinking Maddie had gone to take a drink of water or go to the loo.’ Gerry says, ‘I felt as if there was someone in the room but decided not to investigate.’ HELLO? This just justifies that they’re hiding something. If you ever thought there was someone in the room with your children, would you go and investigate? Or, how they didn’t want to call the babysitter because of money. Yeah, they certainly don’t have enough money, that’s why Maddie’s face is plastered all over the world, they even made wristbands with a ‘Look for Maddie’ logo on it! How low can you go? And the fact that they left their children alone is preposterous! Where I live children under age 12 can’t be left alone, I’m sure this law will go up by numbers after this case! Even if the parents hadn’t killed Maddie, they are still guilty of breaking numerous laws. It’s just stupid. They’re getting themselves in more trouble with each new lie. What’s next? They wont know how Maddie suddenly appears dead in their closet? I swear, this is getting more ironic and funny by the minute. All I hope for is that Maddie is alive, and safe, wherever she is. Maddie, my prayers have always been and are now, with you.
September 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 pm
I honestly can’t believe the press! Yes, let’s start blaming people because we have nothing to do. Maddie is cute, pretty, sweet and yet…children like her get kidnapped, rapped, killed every single day. The thing is we’re not looking at the big picture. What is happening with the world??? So many murders, accidents, catastrophes. It’s very sad and unstoppable. But unless you haven’t looked at the newspaper, here’s a clue. The McCans are guilty! Well, in my opinion they are! This story is more than strange, closing doors while not investigating on the inside, blood in rental car, blaming innocent people. My theory is that the McCans gave a sleeping pill to Maddie, the pill might have made her nauseous and she began to choke. While trying to save Maddie they accidentally killed her. The bullshit the press writes is absolutely revolting! And poor Maddie, dead or alive is suffering (or has suffered) in degrees while the press is ’suspecting’ just for something to do. I sympathize Maddie and think the McCans are behind all this. From the begging I’ve felt as if they were cold, unfeeling about their daughter’s death. Maybe it’s just me but it’s as if they’re fearing to be found out. Whatever happens, I wish Maddie to be alright wherever she is.
September 23rd, 2007 at 8:20 pm
what happen to the big search in the UK and the BIG evidence and the pending search and arrest?
Just seems this is a very strange case from day one and it just gets stranger by the day…
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:52 pm
seems like they remember or make up things as they go along…that is why i have a problem with this whole abduction thing. Sure nine people will not write down the same thing word for word…but their stories should be similar.
In this case things change too much…
The drinking bit about Kate in college, it said something about she would rather party then study…..just wondering if she still likes to party and is able to care for 3 small children when your not feeling up to par the next day is all i was getting at. I have no idea how much Kate drinks, if any or Gerry.
Just too much we DONT know. And i hate to say people keep saying the Mccanns cant say anything, but their friends sure have alot to say, too bad it hasnt helped find Madeleine yet. Also they have to be getting their info some place.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Thats your right you have that right to believe what ever you wish to believe and good on you for saying so, i believe that they didnt harm Madeliene and i really hope that she is safe and home soon.
I hope that the truth is found and that they reopen the search for Madeliene not just say they are going to reopen the search, i have heard that they will only respond to calls from people saying they believe they have seen Madeliene.
September 23rd, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Star, I have to say that I agree with Amazed and A Person in that what Kate McCann did 20 years ago shouldn’t be taken as an indication of guilt. I too used to get very drunk in my late teens up to my mid 20’s. I gave up as I was fed up of clinging on to the floor in case I fell off! Whilst I still enjoy a drink and occasionally come home under the influence, I’d like to think that I’ve matured over the years, especially since becoming a parent. If there are a number of named witnesses saying, on record, that one or both the parents regularly left the children alone to go out & get drunk on this holiday, then that’s a different thing altogether.
I’m more curious about Gerry McCann’s sudden recall regarding a possible intruder in the apartment. Given the circumstances, I’d have thought that memory would have occurred on the night of Madeleine’s disappearance, and he would have been keen to inform the police as soon as they arrived. I remember the police fingerprinting the patio door and I expect they also did the bedroom window, interior and exterior, but with no luck.
You are spot on about how could the intruder and the man seen by Jane Tanner being one and the same. It may be possible but it would then seem that Madeleine was abducted whilst her father was just outside or even in the apartment. I noticed that whilst Jane Tanner seems to be the only person to have seen a male near to the apartment, she made a second statement in which she said this man was travelling in the opposite direction to the one she had originally claimed. Given that this new direction was towards Robert Murat’s home, was she changing her statement to strengthen suspicions against him? If so, why did she feel the need to do so and not just say things as she saw them?
Also, given that Jeremy Wilkins was talking with Gerry McCann at that location for 15 to 20 minutes why did he say he had seen neither the male or Tanner? Wilkins only met Gerry McCann on holiday so I don’t think he can be accused of being biased and a member of ‘Team McCann’.
Jane Tanner also changed her description of the man from carrying a child in a blanket to a child in pyjamas. Again, was she changing her statement to fit what she had been told by others? And then there is Matthew Oldfield saying that he didn’t go in the apartment as he originally said, but listened outside.
If he did carry out that check at 21.00 as some timelines have it, then I wouldn’t be surprised if Gerry McCann checked at 21.05, because I would; I wouldn’t think that just listening outside would be a sufficient check on two 18 month olds and a 4 year old.
Has Gerry McCann ever made comment as to whether he saw any suspicious persons at the time and location that Jane Tanner does?
These are the things that make people suspicious about the McCanns : the changes in statements, the recall of events that I would have expected to be burned in their minds for ever and the contradictions by their own friends. they are certainly the reasons why I feel unable to believe them 100%.