Madeleine McCann: Watching The Parents
MORE no news on the Madeleine McCann case.
It is now a week since the three-year-old girl was snatched from a Portugal holiday resort.
The story has been distressing to watch on our TV screens. What it must like for the parents of Madeleine only a few can know.
BLAME
But their misery is far from complete. With no news of Madeleine, and the Portuguese police having no need to indulge the British tabloids with speculation and theory, Madeleine’s parents are the central characters.
And today’s front-page news, as reported by the caring Mirror, is: “THEY KNOW LEAVING KIDS WAS WRONG.”
Does the Mirror mean to say that Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry, now think they did the wrong thing in nipping out for a bite to eat and leaving the children in the apartment on what they thought was a secure resort?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns know that popping back regularly to look at their children and checking on their well being was less than perfect?
Does the Mirror mean that the McCanns realise they should not have left their children alone, just like it is wrong to leave a child in a hotel under the auspices of a baby monitoring service, to leave a child in the car while mum goes to pay for petrol, to talk to a neighbour over a garden fence while the children are indoors?
Of course this is not the Mirror’s view. Oh, no. This is Madeleine’s grandmother, Susan Healy, saying: “They know this was a mistake. But it wasn’t child neglect, it wasn’t not caring for your children.”
That she feels the need to say this is wrong. That the Mirror can lead with Madeleine’s grief-worn parents is pathetic and misguided. That the paper can talk of “people are asking why they didn’t make use of the crèche” at the resort or take the children out to dinner with them is wrong.
But the Mirror has news to write. And the police aren’t playing the game.
THEORIES
So the Mirror produces: “THE 6 THEORIES.”
Only six! Why this cautious approach? But it is all the Mirror has. And readers hear of the “PAEDOPHILE GANG”, the “LONE PAEDOPHILE”, the “JEALOUS MOTHER”, Madeleine wandering off and “DROWNED”, the “OPPORTUNIST PAEDOPHILE”, the “CHILDLESS COUPLE”.
But the Sun has more. It has 130 more. As the front-page headline screams: “MADDIE COPS HUNT 130 BRIT PAEDOS.”
The paper says “at least” 130 British paedophiles “might” have taken Madeleine McCann.
In “ALGARVE IS ‘HAVEN’ FOR PERVS”, readers learn that Portugal is a “magnet for sun-seeking perverts from Britain and the rest of Europe”.
Who knew that perverts get off on watching children at the beach?
Us And Them
But help is on its way. The Sun lists the British coppers who will go out there and see to it that justice is done. We, says the paper, are the only country with a sex offenders’ register.
All convicted perverts must inform the police of their desire to go abroad. At least 130 have. And the police are looking for them.
But – and whisper this – might it be that convicted sexual deviants don’t all tell the police what they plan to do? They are not monitored while overseas. And might it be that not all sexual predators are caught and make it to the list?
Among the policemans’ names is Detective Superintendent Graham Hill, attached to theChild Exploitation and Protection Centre. Hill is on the case. He has flown to Portugal.
Hill worked on the case of Milly Dowler. She was snatched from near Walton railway station, Surrey, in 2002. Her body was found six months later. Her killer or killers have never been caught.
Perhaps Hill’s experiences can help. Perhaps he’ll have more luck. Perhaps not.
Meanwhile, a family is distraught, and bearing up incredibly well under the strain and the merciless gaze of the newspapers…
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October 13th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Hello gang. I’ve read the discussion about the ivf donor etc. Some people claim this is an interferance in the McCann’s life and is too intrusive. Personally I think it’s not too intrusive at all. When you bring in the media, inviting them for a feeding frenzy that’s what happens. Plus this is looking like a murder inquiry, and the McCann’s are top suspects.
My opinion is: This is in the public interest, and whatever is said is fair comment. The most interesting part of the claims, are that if Gerry isn’t the genetic Father of Madeleine, that makes her DNA stand apart from the twins, and therefore removes the McCann’s alleged ability to claim a mix up between the two. (three)
Remember the nappies claims etc? Well that’s right out of the window if Madeleine has unique markers from the genetic donor.
Apart from that, it is not really much of anyone’s business…. BUT
To be frank, if someones accused of being involved in the disappearance of their little child, I don’t think any topic is off subject, and really the McCann’s look more stupid with every word they utter from their pathetic, sympathy demanding, control freak mouths. (oh!)
October 12th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
A Person, there was a link posted here some weeks back to this photo, which was on another forum. Also on that forum was someone who stated that the man was a police officer, although I don’t know how accurate that claim was. Polly, on here, states that he isn’t a police officer and, whilst I don’t know where her information comes from, it may well be true as the photo was taken prior to Madeleine’s disappearance, so why would he be watching the McCanns?
As for the person behind the play equipment, I can’t tell if it’s a man or woman. Given that the park seems to be a busy & popular place, I assume that it’s an adult with a child (who is out of view) and is therefore bending down. I’m not sure that the McCanns would be visible through the opening in the play equipment given the angles involved.
The photo I looked at was published in the Sunday Tasmanian on September 16th but I’m sure is available elsewhere. That news article also quotes the police as saying that the man has been identified and spoken to, but that the police won’t elaborate on that.
So, to answer your question, yes, he has been investigated but the police aren’t saying what came of it.
Unfortunately, the links I provided in my last post don’t seem to work. This one should :
uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070927001351AAbOe0i
This gives 2 links to photos. It also shows a comment by a poster called Zail, who is saying that the man in sunglasses isn’t Tuck Price. He is a friend of Robert Murat and a google search brings up photos of him and he does look different. Don’t know why his name cropped up in the first place, though.
Robert Murat is reported on the BBC news website as asking police to clear him. He’s not seen his daughter for 5 months, is now having financial difficulties due to his status and that the detectives haven’t contacted him for 2 months. The report also lists some of the aspects of being an official suspect. Amongst them is the requirement to report to the police every 5 days. I was a bit surprised at that, as the McCanns don’t appear to have had that imposed on them, so why should Murat? Also, if the McCanns can return to England permanently, why shouldn’t Murat be allowed to come here to visit his daughter? I have a lot of sympathy for him at the moment, as he seems to be in limbo. As with the McCanns, he is innocent until proven guilty.
October 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
That bloke in the park watchinh Gerry and the children playing was he a police man did i see that typed here?
If he wasnt he was seen and photographed twice with that murat bloke and if you look hard at the man behind the play equipment it could be someone else watching them play.
This man has been spoken to, but he was around everywhere that the McCanns were and has been seen with Murat who is the other suspect.
He also fits a discription of a bloke Murat was seen with before returning to Portugal, this seems strange to me that he wasnt looked into abit more. Does anyone know anything about him have you heard if he was ivestigated?
October 12th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
You’re right Polly, there is so much speculation because of the lack of facts, that it is hard to come up with any sort of theory as to what happened that night.
Is this the man you mean?
http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,2...
The article goes on to say : “Police would say little about the photographed man other than to confirm he has been identified and spoken to, as would a large number of others in coming days. They refused to say how or why he appears to have been everywhere that involved the McCanns.”
If he is a police officer, it does make you wonder why he was watching the McCanns before Madeleine disappeared!
He does have a strong resemblence to the male seen in other photos - this link is helpful :
http://www.anorak.co.uk/twitterings/1757...
Again, if he was watching the McCanns prior to Madeleine disappearing and was still on the scene afterwards with Murat and/or the police, then you could be forgiven for thinking there was something far more to the story than what happened on May 3rd. There has been speculation about the McCanns and Murat knowing each other. The McCanns have denied this and it is probably just coincidence that when Murat returned to England for a short while to visit his sister, he went to Exeter, the home town of the McCanns friends, O’Brien and Tanner (she who saw the man with a bundle). Another coincidence is that a sighting (one of many not investigated by the police was reported by a woman who lives in Leicester, the home county of the McCanns and not far from their home in Rothley.
If Madeleine has been snatched by or for a childless couple, one can only hope that, if she is never found, at least she will be cherished and nurtured.
October 12th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
THE parents of Madeleine McCann were considering legal action yesterday against “hurtful” claims that they gave their four-year-old daughter – and her younger brother and sister – sedatives on the night she disappeared.
If they are so innocent. All that had to do was test the twins. If the hair is tested, it can relieve if there were drugs taken. Gramma already told us that the abductor probably gave Madeleine drugs.
October 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Thankyou for your reply powder monkey. There is a lot of information on other sites which point fingers at the same set of people. But, as everything that has been released seems to be speculation - it is hard for anyone to make ‘convincing’ arguments as to what actually happened.
I know that the McCanns left their children alone and Madeleine is missing.
Apart from that, all I have seen is newspapers fighting for public monies.
I have ‘watched’ the parents (obviously from a distance) and in my opinion, I do not believe that they have killed their daughter. I am just so glad that I am not walking the same path as them.
IF they are acting (and I don’t believe they are) they deserve every Oscar, Grammy and Golden Globe that ever existed.
The big man in the playpark picture - from what I have read, is not a policeman. Also, when all the papers published his photo - why didn’t they name him and exonerate him? As in, policeman Antonio Antonio has been identified as the person in the photo and has been eliminated from our enquiries.
If you look carefully at that photo - there seems to be another man(?) pointing a camera through the climbing frame - it could be just a parent taking a photo of a child inside - but interesting all the same.
The other person I asked you about was the man who was seen by the hotel employee on the evening Madeleine vanished - the employee nearly bumped into him and they both jumped back - the employee reported that he seemed to be watching the car park. He also said he noticed him a couple of days later - and - he was very scared.
Why would he be scared?
Why was the big man in the photo with Murat?
Why was a large bald man seen with a child down at the marina?
Or is all this another spin?
I find this whole case baffling - I think the secrecy laws have had a lot to do with all the torrid speculation. I think we have all been caught up in it at some point. I felt very sorry for Kate & Gerry with all the latest news from Horas. He must be wondering what next?
The tourist was not hanging about in the carpark Xhris - he was hiding in the shadows on the stairs of the Ocean Club.
I hope the Portuguese police have some leads and are following them up - keeping us in the dark because of their secrecy laws. I don’t mind that - as long as they come up with something credible. The speculation and mud slinging has, IMO damaged relations with Portugal, from a tourists viewpoint.
The innocent victim in all this is a little girl called Madeleine.
I hope someone finds her. :’(
October 11th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Opps, I heard the news about Gerry being not the biological father of Madeleine in TV news, not only in the papers, and they stated that this conclusion comes from more results arriving from forensics in England, so I don’t know what to think.
About the man hanging around near the apartment, I heard it too, but it seems it was only a tourist. It is a tourism place so people go out much, during day and night, there are lots of others residences, and people like to take a walk, come outside to smoke a cigarrette, know the village. So there are always lots of people hanging around basically everywhere, for the hot nights. I heard they questioned all the vicinity, the surroundings, but found nothing connecting to the case.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
I heard something about a man hanging around near the appartment a day before or the day Madeleine went missing acting strange, the portuguese police are said to know who he was and that he had been questioned and was not anything to do with the case.
October 11th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
For those of us in the U.K., Channel 4 are showing a Dispatches special Thursday 18th at 9 p.m. A retired DCS & 4 other criminal investigators go to Praia Da Luz to review the Portuguese investigation “They analyse key moments in the investigation and contrast how they might have directed the case.”
Could be an interesting programme, but I wonder how much co-operation they got from the Portuguese police.
Channel 4 can be watched on line but is only available to U.K. residents, unless some with better knowledge than I knows a way round that.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Polly, if you mean the man Jane Tanner claims to have seen, it’s not certain that he exists, as other pople in the immediate vicinity didn’t see him, plus she changed her testimony, which makes her claim dubious. Unless you mean another male , one I’m not aware of.
Robert Murat has basically been cleared by the Portuguese Police and, although his official status remains that of a suspect, there have been reports that he may be a prosecution witness should there be a trial.
If the photo you mean is the one previously discussed on this forum (September 16th - can’t give post numbers as I can’t see them), then there have been comments on another forum that the male that some believe was looking at Madeleine is, in fact, a police officer. Personally, I think it’s hard to tell where he was looking as he was wearing sunglasses; possibly just in the general direction of the camera.
Hope the above helps.
I’ve not seen anything to suggest Gerry McCann isn’t the biological father of all the McCann children. The paper that made this claim, 24 Horas, is not one I have any knowledge of but, unless they have solid evidence to back up the claim, I’d suggest they are gutter press. Although I have my doubts about the McCanns, they are innocent until proven guilty and smearing them in this way serves absolutely no purpose in finding Madeleine or any part her parents may have played in her disappearance. It will sell papers, which I suppose is the only reason 24 Horas made the claim. Sales must be slow.
October 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Well it seems although they had ivf it was gerry that donated so the portuguese media or whoever are still spreading lies. That was abit of a nasty one while his daughter is missing they are saying he is not the real father.
It still seems that there is nothing new so people are trying to make something new up maybe the news paper sales had started to drop again.
The sad thing to all of this is somewhere Madeliene is waiting to be found and if the McCanns didnt kill her then the person who took her is still out there on the prowel for another innocent little child.
Why are they so fixed at the Parents did it they dont have any evidence to prove this so why are they trying there hardest to blame the parents and smear the McCanns in any way they can.
They were guilty of leaving the kids alone and that is proved but that dosnt mean they have killed her what makes them believe this to be the case? It sounds crazy to me.
October 11th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Hi, A Person, you are right in some point, the only difference is that Madeleine does not match the twins so much because the twins have DNA markers from another IVF, another donor. They all have DNA from their mother, but it is different if they were from the same father. The macth would be stronger.
I just thought it would be important that the Mccanns would have referred this detail, because it would be possible the biological father could have a possible action in the disappearance. In reality the father is Gerry, the one giving love and care, of course.
I agree with you, we cannot rely on the press but I never heard about paedofiles being related with Madeleine, I heard on TV that the portuguese police are following a case of paedofily from many months before but there is no connection at all with Madeleine case.
Yet, in the theory of abduction, which they did not abandon completeley, paedofiles are also not discarded.
I heard on TV that the other results from the tests will be arriving soon and they can confirm or not, if the line of investigation is to remain as is now, with the envolvement of the parents. I know we would like a real turn around on this and at the end that Madeleine would still be found and alive. Meanwhile, while “Wathing the parents” we can only filter carefully all information that comes to public and wait. The press is really very contradictory, each newspaper says different things, so I’m only “filtering” from TV, which I find more reliable and less sensacionalist. The papers really want to sell and make this news the 1st page, but on TV there have been only little information, not very emphasized and in the middle of other news.
Have a nice day !
October 11th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
That was told at the bigginning xhris that Gerry wasnt the biological father, but that dosnt make a diifrence as Kate is the mother the twins will have the sme DNA as Madeliene.
I really dont think that the news is worth while at the moment about Madeliene, they say in one article that they have more evidence to say that Madeliene died in the apartment, then in the next hr they say that she may be with the peadofiles.
Well at least they are still looking, but the media really needs to stop printing any little rumours.
What has happened to the news these days surely there is enough going on in the world without them having to make things up.
October 11th, 2007 at 9:57 am
Hi, every morning during breakfast I always read the news… today I almost choke while eating, with this news ….Gerry Mccann is not Madeleine’s father, they had to find her biological father (because the IVF was made from a sperm bank) and discard the possibility he was not involved. This way Madeleine is only half-sister to the twins who were also IVF.
Anyone read something about this ? It seems that now more and more evidence will slowly come to the public everyday.
Have a nice day
October 11th, 2007 at 6:32 am
I don’t think that the mccanns killed maddy. I think they are guilty of leaving them alone, but i don’t think they have done anything to her.
I hope she is found soon alive or dead.
does anybody know any details of the man hiding in the shadows the same night maddy was taken? the description was very vague. Also has Mr Muret been cleared of his involvement? And what about that man in the picture behind mr mccann in the park? i think the police know a lot more than they tell. i dont think the mccanns will be arrested for anything - JMO
October 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
2213 Powder Monkey (haha I can see them ner ner..) , ah well. It was worth a try. Maybe admin will change it back at some point.
No comment from me tonight. I’m waiting for the McCanns to be nicked and presented with infallible evidence… “patience is a virtue”. The McCanns favourite book says that… will Leicester Police move in for an arrest? Or will Portugal ask them politely to “pop over for a chat”
I think it will be the latter.. closely followed by the former..
October 10th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
I have to say that if i took my child on holiday with me i would maybe put him into the creche on certain days and times not all day.
They do activities that the children would enjoy, but i would also have family time i wouldnt leave them to go out for an evening meal though.
It would have been so much better to have had a meal delivered to the apartment and had it by the pool and sent over for drinks.
Thats what i would have done so i would be right outside the apartment but i can say that now knowing what i know it could have been safe but i wouldnt chance it.
The McCanns may well be saying i wish i didnt leave Madeleine but they did, and i can see that they are suffering because of it they regret it but its too late.
If Madeliene is alive i hope they dont find her in one of the peados properties, what that poor child would have gone through, i hope she is well and unharmed but i think i am hoping for a fairy tale.
Even if she is found alive i dont see this as a happy ever after story she will be so traumatized by what has happened to her, but she has to be found and helped .
Alive or Dead she has to be found.
October 10th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Andrew, thanks for the suggestion mate but unfortunately it didn’t work. I’ve resigned myself to not seeing the post numbers. If I need to refer to one I can always use the date/time stamp.
Whilst the scenario of all the children being in one apartment would answer some questions : why Gerry McCann though Madeleine might have gone into the other bedroom (to be with other kids?), why Oldfield went to the McCanns apartment to check on the children (and not another apartment), and why unidentified DNA is in the McCanns apartment. Tanner & O’Brien have two girls (was she going to the McCanns’ apartment to check on them when she saw the male with a bundle?) and Matthew & Rachel Oldfield have two children (was he also going to the McCanns apartment and not his own to check on his kids?) I can understand putting all the kids in one place to make checking easier, even with the job of taking them back to their own apartments later in the evening but, if you had 7 kids in there, surely you’d go inside each room to check, unlike Gerry McCann and Matthew Oldfield.
The unidentified DNA is a puzzle. If it’s from the rest of the Tapas 7, it would be very easy to get DNA samples from them & their children for comparison. Given the amount of time elapsed since May 3rd, there have been (as Star says) many people staying in the apartment, apart from other people with legitimate access such as cleaners and maintenance staff. If the Portuguese police can say that they have eliminated all those people and still have unidentifed DNA, then I’d be very surprised. They obviously haven’t been able to match it to any know offenders. I’d also be interested to know what they base this claim of all children in one apartment on. One of the Tapas 7, David Payne, refused to answer when asked if the claim was true. He didn’t deny it, didn’t call it ludicrous, just refused to answer. Read into that what you will!
Star, I don’t know the ages of the other children, but I did rear a report that Madeleine was the eldest of all the children so, again, why take her and not another child who would be less likely to remember a former life?
A Person, we had those baby mointors as well. We used to hear the local taxi firm . . .”Delta One, pick up at the Dog and Partridge”. . .I was fairly sure that wasn’t my 6 month old daughter!
October 10th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
a person…..i didnt receive any emails today…and i notice that there are new posts on here…..also things look a bit different on here…no idea….maybe they are working on the site?
I still have to blame Kate and Gerry for leaving the kids. Lots have posted that if Kate and Gerry were with Madeleine, she would still be here and i have to agree with that. It seems like they didnt have a problem with it and i just have to wonder how often it was done other than this trip. I just wonder why the Tapas 9 as they are called bothered to take the kids on Holiday. It seems they were in the creche and then in the apartment alone. Yes i did note that the Mccanns took their kids to the beach or the pool…..but if they wanted a good time with friends, maybe they should of left the kiddies at home?
Also seems like Kate is gettin a bit of an attitude when asked questions, and then Gerry takes over to answer.
The abduction seems odd because of the time frame, to be able to get in and grab a child and then get out and not be seen(i think the tanner lady story is fake - are they serious about what this man looked like?) The bit about Gerry now knowing the abductor was in the room with him, that also can be made up…i mean he says that Madeleine was not with the twins and that things were not as they were when he checked last…SO WHY NOT TAKE A MINUTE AND CHECK IT OUT…no he went back to the bar?
That says alot….
October 10th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
Is anyone else not recieving the emails saying that new things added to this?
got to keep finding the link now to check whats been wrote.
I dont believe that all of the children were in the same apartment they would never have got them all to sleep but if they did check on the children like they say they did it would have ment someone was walking around the resort the whole evening which is not the case so they must be lying about the amount of times they checked the children.
This still dosnt mean that they killed Madeliene though just that they were even more neglegent in looking after her.
The truth is i dont even expect that any of the friends knew what times they checked up on the children just every now and then when the subject died down they thought maybe someone should go, they may be lying about the times they checked because of fears of social services.
I still feel that someone entering the appartment was abit risky and that Madeliene may have wondered out of the appartment and unluckily met someone who has taken her. The evidence may prove this to be imposible if it is real evidence to prove Madeliene died in the appartment.
That sounds abit of a coincidence maybe but also the parents killing her and the friends covering up for them while they have nothing to hide at all is also hard to believe.
Yes to the parents accidentally or even attentionally killing her but for friends to cover it up is really hard to believe risk everything for an accident i dont think so.
If they did drug her then they could of easily have said she got hold of the medicine without them knowing, doctors deal with this sort of child overdosing every week, i have had to rush my own child to hospital for overdose of tablets, luckily they were only hayfever tablets which made her sleep and no perminant damage.
October 10th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
‘afternoon all. it makes you wonder why these people even have Children. They appear to be nothing more than accessories to their generic lives.
Got to go, doing a bit of work in my neighbours garden.
1: excersise 2: change of scenery 3: clear the mind 4: get away from you (joking)
See you later x x x
October 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Did they ever mention the age of the other children on Holiday with the Mccanns? or how many children were there? I wonder if any were old enough to question. Amazing what a child might be able to add to this…
Back to the questions that the Mccanns would not answer? If they want us the public to believe in them then they should step back and look at what they have done and said since the night Madeleine went missing. IMO they have made themselves look quilty.
October 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Maybe all children were sedated and thats why the group are silent. Unlikely unless other unlikely scenarios were happening such as the alleged wifeswapping (in another apartment whilst the children slept alone) . About as likely as the alien abduction theory. I once tried to get 9 young children to sleep in one room when staying with friends and although they loved it, I was frazzled and it took 3 hours to settle them ….they remember a lovely evening but oh my, …. not a peaceful one for me but it was worth it for happy memories for them!
October 10th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Police have stepped up their hunt for missing Madeleine McCann by asking British tourists who stayed at the Portuguese resort where she disappeared to provide fingerprints and DNA samples.
The move comes after detectives in Portugal spent five hours yesterday searching the two-bedroom holiday flat where the four-year-old’s family were staying when she vanished in May.
Fresh claims also emerged that up to six other children could have been with Madeleine in the flat on the night she went missing.
The renewed search was carried out after traces of unidentified DNA and fingerprints were uncovered at the flat, reigniting suggestions that Madeleine could have been kidnapped.
British police have begun interviewing people who were guests at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz and asking them to provide DNA samples and fingerprints after requests from Portuguese detectives investigating Madeleine’s disappearance.
**I was wondering why they are just looking at British guest that were staying at the resort?
And here is another place where they believe more children were in that apartment?
They were searching the apartment AGAIN…after all this time. Tons of people have stayed there. You would think they would of blocked off that room for a period of time?
October 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
They just keep back tracking no wonder noone knows what they are doing or who done what!
They now want to speak to people that stayed in the resort because they have other DNA after the search the other day…. well hello it is a holiday resort and it has been 5 months and they did hire it out again. I think this is going to be a long drawn out case not anywhere near the end of the case xhris.
The other childrens DNA will be in the room and they cannot prove that they slept in that room during that night as they cannot get that from dna results all they can say is between these dates the persons DNA was left in this area, i think this is just another hard push at a confession and we will all be waiting for something that will not happen.
If the McCanns are guilty and they ever cared for that child then they should confess.
If they are not guilty and the police are just trying to make a case against them and are now waisting time when they could be looking for Madeliene then they should be disgusted with thierselfs.
It is impossible for someone to get away with what they are saying without being master criminals and not leaving any easy evidence, if the police have any evidence then i am sure they would have used it by now, if they have it what are they waiting for.
October 10th, 2007 at 10:10 am
Good morning to you all!
In recent news I read that the results from the forensic tests are, once more, arriving and confirm the previous tests received in September. There is evidence that Madeleine and the twins were sleeping with the ohter 4 children of the group, and Madeleine and the twins were sedated. It is not still confirmed if all the other children were also sedated. I read now and for the first time, that the samples of evidence were also analysed in Forensic Lab in Lisbon and at the same time same samples were sent to Forensics Lab in England. It seems the portuguese police wanted to keep “copies” of the samples and this way they have two different results from two different labs and they match. Both Laboratories are arriving at the same conclusions. I also reed the Mccanns (Mr Mitchell) deny that the 7 children of the group were all together but regarding the sedation it seems he does not answer the phone since yesterday. Is it possible that we are approaching the end of this nighmare ?
I hope justice is done no matter who is envolved.
October 10th, 2007 at 4:03 am
Powder Monkey, can you still not see the post numbers? I’ve changed browsers because of the problem here. go to http://www.mozilla.com/firefox it cures the problem a treat.
It looks like admin aren’t going to change the font back to internet explorer friendly format from what i see, hence my abandoning internet explorer.
It’s WAY past my bedtime. got to go!
October 9th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
That resort video is pretty good has alot of info in it that is a long way from the appartment.
I sure wouldnt leave my kids but they did and they are guilty of that, it isnt like sitting in your back garden and if you did have a large house and garden then surely you would use those baby monitors.
I used to use them to go and have a coffee at my nieghbours it was like being in another room you cant really rely on them though as they pick up other radio signals and if lots of people in the area have them then you could be listening to the wrong child. (thats happened to me to) i have to say my children were not all under 4 though my eldest was 11 and able to get me if i was needed (just incase social services are looking)
I wish the police or specialists or even the media would get a grip on what is true and what is rumours.
All this rubbish about the DNA being no use then it is conclusive they dont seem to be able to make thier minds up.
If Madeliene is alive the abductor could walk past the whole of the british and portuguese police and not be noticed, no one seems to care if she is alive or dead or even where she is.
Everyone is still focused on if they parents did it.
It would help If they did find her or her body, to prove it was the parents and while proving it no more leaks no more close friends stories just prove what you have and find out where that poor child is.
I still say that your innocent untill proven guilty, so prove it or get back to looking for Madeline.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Hi Andrew. If that’s the best Tanner can describe then how on eart was she able to point the finger at Murat. I reckon he was a convenient (for her) target. I feel sorry for him as there will always be those who point the finger at him, for years to come.
Two days, two news reports, both about the DNA. One says it’s inconclusive and clears the parents (a source close to the investigation), the other (British experts) say the results are valid and put the parents in the frame. Could another war of words between British & Portuguese police be looming? Meanwhile, how many police officers are actually chasing up leads to find Madeleine. She seems to have been somewhat forgotten. News headlines are now concentrating more on the Diana enquiry. How much longer before this poor child is relegated to a couple of paragraphs on page 7?
October 9th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Somebody somewhere is eating a toffee crip!
‘afternnon Powder Monkey, (and gang) that pic is the actual full description tanner gave to the police/ Yes… Ludicrous!
If you were innocent, why mention fighting an extradition order?
Why not answer just the 40 questions? “leaving no stone unturned?”
Why expose yourself as an inconsistent (liar), then continue to deny it, contradicting your contradictions again? (my head hurts)
Why does anyone believe anything they say?
Why are they still getting airtime and column space?
When are we going to see them wearing “bracelets”?
When can we all meet up and have a conviction party?
Why why!? and when when why?