Comments on: Demanding A Ransom For Madeleine McCann

By: bart

bart — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:48:37 +0000

Anyone read the book The Witches Cradle by Gillian White? A lot of things are different but some things are chillingly similar.

By: Vicki

Vicki — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 11:10:54 +0000

Ann, I totally agree with you. We must concentrate our thoughts and if some believe in God, our prayers that this sweet, innoncent, little girl will soon be in the arms of her parents. I have a four year old grand daughter and all I can think about is if this would happen to her. I have followed this as much as most as all of us that have written here, on internet. Although there is not much to follow except everyone’s suppositions, to me Madeleine just represents so many other thousands of missing children and while there is so much criticism of the media, the Portugese police, her parents, the money, their position in life, this is not what is important. Madeleine’s abduction should make us even more sensitive to all the others and to me she is hurting and we should be too.
My heart goes out to all the “Madeleine’s” and little boys of course, that evil people have plucked from their loved ones to enjoy what? their sick and evil ways. May God have mercy and give us more grace towards those concerned in this case and stop the criticism.

By: Manon

Manon — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:17:53 +0000

Commenting on the media spectacle *is* contributing to it!
Albeit hypocritically.

The tabloids whipping up hysteria? Shocker! Next you’ll be claiming the Pope’s catholic.

The newspapers I read have not indulged in any ‘paedo hysteria’ whatsoever.

By: The Usual Suspect

The Usual Suspect — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:39:43 +0000

As far as I can see the reporting by Anorak has all been about how the press are reporting the story and all the excesses associated with that, rather than the story itself, and is therefore not contributing to the spectacle, rather it is commenting on it, which is how the site is intended to operate.

The focus is more the cycnicism of the media and the whipping up of “paedo hysteria” even when there is no proven evidence that this is the motivation behind an alleged abduction.

By: Manon

Manon — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:16:39 +0000

Quote:
*Anorak Says:
June 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
The story is a mystery. But Madeleine’s disappearance is playing second fiddle to the speculation that is passed off as news. Does the media help the case? Or just mutate it into a public spectacle?*

Anorak, you are yourself contributing to the speculation passed off as news. Are you helping the case? No, you are adding to the public spectacle.

So either get on with the speculation & don’t whinge, or stop posting about this case, as you appear basely hypocritical.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:01:35 +0000

Bernadine As regards Sergey Malinka’s phone No. If you type his name on the search on Google The first item to come up is the Island Expeditions web site with his name on the contacts section

By: Ann

Ann — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:48:24 +0000

Like a lot of people following this abduction, I hope that Madeleine’s parents do get a call asking for money. At least then they will have a chance of getting their beloved daughter back home with them.
This is about a little girl who will be traumatised by all of this, wondering where here family are. She will be unable to understand why she is not with her mummy and daddy and will be very afraid, my heart goes out to her.
I simply cannot believe the horrid comments of some people on here and other sites. There is not much point in blaming Madeleine’s parents now, the deed has been done.
Everyone has to focus on finding this child, and stop slagging off her mother and father.
In my opinion, this couple have been tortured enough.
Let them have their daughter back and get on with their lives.
God bless Madeleine wherever she is.

Ann

By: Anorak

Anorak — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:47:12 +0000

Bernadine - Colin Stagg: fitted up by the police and still associated with an horrific murder. An unsolved murder. Mud sticks. what worse than to be accused of a heinous crime you did not commit?

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Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:06:39 +0000

Well a lot of people are gainsaying the Police, in fact just slagging them off because Madeleine hasn’t been found.
Is it a tragedy already or is there reasonable sensible hope still? I have no idea of what has happened to her, and neither do most of the people taking part in these threads, even though some seem to be on the right hand of the Almighty.
But common sense and the cold light of day isn’t making it look too good, unless someone has her who just wants a small child to love and care for, but however hopeful that is its very naive too.
But how does all the slagging off of people help find Madeleine? its just self indulgent nastiness and isn’t helping anyone.
I am a Pagan, and on our site we have a candle lit for Madeleine, we don’t speak of her, but everyone goes to the candle daily, and no one insults anyone.
She is a tiny child , try and keep your thoughts kindly to all, and who knows what could happen.
As the poster above says she is the Innocent in all this, lets try and keep things innocent then?

By: Gail

Gail — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:42:51 +0000

I think it is spiralling out of control
It is such a pity
But do you think that the Portuguese police are happy with this
maybe so
They have already admitted that they would like the true line of investigation to be left to them with no interference from media speculation
Who knows - with a bit of look and a lot of miracle
The portuguese police may have a much more solid line of enquiry that they are following up that could hopefully bring about a positive result
Lets just hope that madeleine is brought back safely
But as someone has \said earlier - That could be me , a mother of four yer old twins trying to think along the better scenarios than the more likely ones that are too sinister for me to imagine
BLESS MADELEINE - SHE IS THE INNOCENT IN THIS AND DOESN@T DESERVE FOR THIS TO HAVE HAPPENED TO HER _ JUST LIKE THE OTHER INNOCENT CHILDREN THAT SUFFER ABUSE AT THE HANDS OF ADULTS XXXX GOD BLESS THEM ALL .

By: Bernardine

Bernardine — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:37:25 +0000

Anorak, Media hype is a sad fact of life now and maybe isn’t too much of a problem until the public start to take every word of speculation as fact

The ’string em up’ stuff on these forums that has followed this speculation has really shocked and scared me…..

As I said earlier… remember Colin Stagg. That case should be a lesson to us all.

By: Dogstar

Dogstar — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:27:08 +0000

The media - especially the gutter press - does what it always does in any incident involving a kid: they whip everyone up into an uninformed, hate-filled frenzy. Truth, whatever that is in this case, takes a distant backseat to the sheer, gleeful FUN of it all. Not to mention the money to be made out of scaring parents up and down the country with rumours, lies and speculation…

Madeleine McCann, in the end, really has very little to with any of it, but most people are too stupid to see it. Thankfully, the Portugese police are not.

By: Anorak

Anorak — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 16:20:25 +0000

The story is a mystery. But Madeleine’s disappearance is playing second fiddle to the speculation that is passed off as news. Does the media help the case? Or just mutate it into a public spectacle?

By: Bernardine

Bernardine — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:57:01 +0000

My point is that no-one knows what has happened to Madeline bar that she is missing. Anything else is pure supposition but much of it is being put forward as fact.

Is it constructive to publish the phone number of someone who has not been proven to be connected?
Maybe those men are guilty, maybe they’re not, but I always thought we stood by ‘innocent until proven guilty’.
Imagine if Murat is completely vindicated? His life has been ruined, as has that of his mother. Remember Colin Stagg? We can’t vilify people on supposition alone; especially as the Portugese police are being economical with news of their investigation.

I too hope she will be found and I too dislike the vindictiveness of some of the posts, but putting up a phone number is beyond the pale IMO.

By: Laurie

Laurie — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:36:14 +0000

Bernadine,
Further to what Eileen has said about scientfic means of locating a child, there was also a very recent case in the U.S. of how a very observant pre-pubescent child was instrumental in solving the case of not one but two missing children (one had been missing for years). Who cares who provides insight or leads into this (or any other unfortunate child abduction) case? Interpol and every other government agency would cease to function in any capacity if not for the general layman. For example, they look within the public for witnesses, etc and not into themselves. However, it is obvious that some people are using this site for healthy debate and some are using it for uninformed character bashing. I’m sorry Bernadine, but I fail to see the point or constructiveness in your comment. By the way, that is a professional opinion.

By: Eileen

Eileen — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:08:54 +0000

Bernadine I am not a Psychic just hoping for a conclusion and for Madeline to be found safely. While there was mention at some stage of her been taken to the port we havent heard much more about it every avenue should be followed. When 11 year old Robert Houlihan was murdered in Cork a few yrs ago his body would never be found but for the fact that his mobile phone was traced scientifically.

By: Laurie

Laurie — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:06:23 +0000

Hypothetical ponderings, constructive debate is better than parent bashing or debates on social concepts such as whether she should have been left alone. She was. She’s gone. You never know who is giving an opinion, whether it be a psychological profiler, psychic, fellow doctor or intuitive garbage collector. All need to be heard in a respectful, evocative manner.

By: Bernardine

Bernardine — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:56:54 +0000

Bit like ‘Watching the Detectives’.

I don’t understand why the silly old police and interpol are even invovlved in the hunt when there are Anorak posters who know EXACTLY what has happened. to the little girl.

I assume Eileen and Laurie are the psychics we keep hearing about?

By: Phil

Phil — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:51:31 +0000

Interesting post Eileen.

By: Laurie

Laurie — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:40:40 +0000

I can’t understand why people think that all the media attention is so great for the parents and for this investigation. While on one hand it is necessary to get her picture/info/etc. out there, but on the other hand the media is creating a situation whereby we can’t see the forest for the trees. The intense media speculation is leading the parents all over the place as well as the authorities. In effect, while beneficial and necessary - media is also creating smoke and mirrors. The parents know who has her - they just haven’t taken the time to think of it yet. Think - cardiologist - lost patient - bitter/revengeful parents. The people who took her - and it had to be more than one - which may suggest parents knew that the drs. had a daughter, but didn’t know she had such a distinguishing feature (right eye). Now they can’t disguise her because of it and don’t know what to do.