Finding Madeleine McCann’s Body - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
IS Madeleine McCann dead? A letter to a Dutch newspaper. And a map showing where her body can be found. It’s credible:
Police in Portugal are investigating an anonymous letter and a map claiming to show where missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann’s body is buried.
The letter, sent to Dutch paper De Telegraaf, identifies an area 15km (9.3 miles) from where Madeleine vanished.
It strongly resembles another letter sent to the same newspaper last year, accurately pinpointing where two missing Belgian girls were buried.
Ch Insp Olegario de Sousa said officers were “checking the information”.
Next to a cross and two question marks, the sender writes “vermoedelijke vindplaats Madeleine” - this is the place where Madeleine can probably be found.
A murder investigation. And still only one suspect.
One day on and “BURIED UNDER ROCKS,” says the Mirror’s front –page headline.
The paper notes how the handwriting on the letter is the same as that on the paper giving the whereabouts of Stacey Lemmens and her sister Nathalie Mahy who went missing in Belgium last year.
As the Sun reports, the note says Madeleine is buried “north of the road under branches and rocks, around six to seven metres off the road” in an spot near Odiaxere, close to the Algarve resort from where the girl went missing 42 days ago.
The Mail says the author of this letter and, most likely, the one concerning the Belgian sisters, is unknown to police.
A certain Abdullah Ait-Oud, a convicted paedophile, has been charged with their murders. He denies any involvement. Although police believe he acted with an accomplice who has not been traced.
“MADELEINE IS BURIED HERE,” says the Express on its front page. Portuguese police are searching the area…
Mr McCann says:
“We were extremely disappointed in the publication of the anonymous letter in The Telegraaf claiming to know where Madeleine is buried.”Although all information will be taken seriously, we were very upset that the credibility of this letter had not been examined and, more importantly, published before the Portuguese police had an opportunity to investigate the claim, and search the area if appropriate without massive media attention.
“We feel strongly that this was an irresponsible piece of journalism and, even if it were true, is insensitive and cruel.
“One can imagine how upsetting it is for Kate and I to hear of such claims through the media and if every piece of information was published like this there would be nothing else in the newspapers.”
Read the update here - no body found…
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June 14th, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Jonathan: while I agree with much of what you say - especially on the point of where the freaks can stick their petitions. I’m not sure why you mention a ‘psychic’ in relation to this & the previous Beligan letter: there is nothing to suppose this info is from a psychic.
As to Craig who accuses the McCann’s of: ” now milking it for one great big holiday!”, words fail me as to your imbecility.
June 14th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
From Reuters website 14.01 today
PRAIA DA LUZ (Reuters) - Portuguese police said on Thursday they had no plans to further search the scrubland where a report said the body of missing Madeleine McCann could be buried.
De Sousa said a group of journalists had hired sniffer dogs to search the area on Thursday.
“These people are people who have no police training and who are walking around the bush looking for a scoop,” he said.
June 14th, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Mon, you seem to be enjoying the McCanns suffering just a little bit too much.
The langiage you use speaks volumes.
June 14th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
[...] Leading ArticlesAnorak - In other words there are seriously ill people out there who are simply addicted to child sex and they escalate their tastes XXX charlotte Says: June 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pm KAT - this is about the mccanns - and you said - “I” - NINETEEN [...]
June 14th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
“Angry McCanns condemn media over cruel report”
They can condemn to their hearts’ delight. They fed the media for the whole month with an immaculate PR campaign. Now suddenly they want them out. Sorry, Gerry, it doesn’t work that way. Another “mistake” you have made.
June 14th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Not sure that Gerry ever planned to control the media. Lets face it even Tony Blair called them a pack of wolves the other day. The MacCann’s objective has always been to stimulate the media to get headlines and attention. For the dutch newspaper, this letter story was too good to let go by, it’s credibility hasnt really been properly questioned in reports and the suddenly, we have the location being made public. That seems to have come from Portugal, probably via media chasing police. Either way the PJ have to control these potential crime scenes. God knows they have been criticised in the past for exactly this. Obviously finding Maddie is a priority, but if this letter were to be true they are looking for a body and the leads from the scene must also be a priority.
Hopefully all this is acadaemic - afterall what killer at large is going to tell police where to find a body when they have no leads? The chances of leaving clues would be way too high. For the sake of closure for the parents? I doubt anyone capable of abducting and killing a 3 yr child has the necessary compassion.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Anonymous (the unregistered one), I disagree with your post about goals.
I am a mother and I work full time. At work I am a ‘business person to the core’. I am mpractical and focused when I need to be. I believe that if I were in that situation, I would probably be coordinating a similar kind of campaign myself, not sitting around doing nothing. It’s just not me to sit waiting for things to happen. I set goals and ‘go after things’ such as my career etc.
With all of that in mind, I am a family person to the core. I love my daughter and husband more than anything in the world and would do anything for them.
Yes, The McCanns are handling the campaign in a businesslike fashion, but how else would you expect it to be done? They are intelligent people and know how to use the resources available to them. That does not make them business robots as you suggest.
You are taking a very black and white approach. It is possible to be a loving, caring parent, yet be intelligent and focussed on your goals.
Are you suggesting that anyone who sets themselves goals, such as running a mile in a certain amount if time is not a ‘family person’? And that anyone who has a successful career that they enjoy is not a ‘family person’?
Madness.
They are luck that they have a tenacious family who will stop at nothing to get her back. I would infinitely prefer that than everyone just sitting around the house waiting for the bad news call.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
Two things about this latest twist to the story, regardless of parental blame, paedophile hysteria etc. Why on earth are locals and their dogs trampling all over a potential crime scene at the behest of a ‘British tabloid newspaper’? Don’t know which paper it is yet. If this is a crime scene any forensic evidence could well be destroyed. Secondly, Mr. McCann calls the letter published in a Dutch newspaper “irresponsible journalism” - hate to say it but this is a man who beleives he has controled the media for the last five weeks - this just proves that the media are uncontrolable and will bite the hand that feeds them
June 14th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
I wonder how many of those people who think the twins should now be removed from their parents actually have children of their own? I don’t agree with what the parents did, I wouldn’t have left my kids alone at that age, but to say that their two youngest children should be removed from their care now is absurd.
They made a mistake, a very tragic one, which they will have to live with, whatever the outcome, for the rest of their lives. They are coping right now the best way they can, and who knows how any of us would react in such awful circumstances. Anyone who is a parent can see and must surely feel how much the McCanns are suffering now, but they have to keep searching for Madeleine. How can they do anything else?
We should all concentrate on supporting anything which will help to find that little girl.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
I don’t believe that it is a set-up issue by the parents. They both look terribly sad and I think the other 2 kids keep them going.
But I do believe that they are business people to the core, and not family people.
Family people don’t set ‘goals’ as they do/did and they don’t go agressively after their goals as they do/did, completely forgetting three children; being absorbed by making a career [which they both do] can make you forget love, can make you forget even your own child.
It is incredible that parents leave their three children of 2 and 4 years of age, all alone in an strange apartment in a strange area. If a fly or bee hits them, the children panic within a second and then……?.
I donot have full sympathy for them.
No doubt that I hope that their daughter will be found soon, sothat they will know.
The truth will be hard for them.
They keep on going on the line of business goals…..look at their site where he reports on 12/6/7 about running a certain distance within 19 minutes. Good boy.
I don’t know what you think of it, but I am even more afraid of medical specialists ever since……
June 14th, 2007 at 11:51 am
A petition…?? How foolish! The McCann’s are going through enough as it is. If this new tip-off turns out to be true, and Madeline has been murdered, then her parents will live with this grief for the rest of their lives. Taking the twins away would only add to their agony.
Have some heart and compassion.
June 14th, 2007 at 10:57 am
Its all conjecture, Madeleine still needs to be found, a post mortem to ascertain just what has happened, and then the guilty party to be found and arrested.
June 14th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Mon - what a ridiculous suggestion. The McCanns have just announced that they want some time away from the media and need time to grieve. If they wanted to keep in the media they would have said so and continued their campaign.
Also, are you suggesting that they want the portuguese police to spend hundreds of man hours wasting precious time searching an area, digging, getting forensics in etc, when they could be busy following genuine leads (i.e.those not creayed by the mccanns as you suggest)?
doh!
June 14th, 2007 at 10:04 am
don’t you think Team McCann concocted this story (and possibly sent the letter as well) to keep the kid in the news.?
June 14th, 2007 at 9:26 am
One small comment to make, most people are accusing a `HIM’, (though highly likely) unless you actually know for certain who did it you can’t know that it is not a `HER’ or a `THEY’.
June 14th, 2007 at 5:13 am
charlotte - You counted???? Oh, my goodness. Now you really must be looking for something to hammer me with and one can’t help but wonder why.
Did you also count the number of time the McCanns and thier children were mentioned? As in ‘they’, ‘them’, ‘child’, ‘children’, ‘their’. I don’t know of many other ways to refer to ones self - especially when illustrating a difference between what the McCanns practised as parents and what one (heaven forbid one should use the “I” word again!) practises themselves as a parent. I believe it was over thirty times but didn’t want to be too niggly about it.
This isn’t about me. Or you. It is about irresponsible adults who failed their child by making a really bad decision. My post is in defence of those who rightly believe the parents are owed some kind of blame here. Not the rabid-hang-’em ones, that pushes the envelope a bit too much for my liking. And I find, oddly enough, the vehement responses - insulting, degrading, insinuating and demeaning - come from those who are sympathetic to the McCanns in their rush to defend them against us monsters who dare to think something contrary. Your post, as an example, was somewhat inflammatory and I expect you were hoping I would be deeply insulted or ashamed of myself. I’m not. Bemused, yes.
Scottish Mummy. I have cast my stone. Now, perhaps that means little to me being a humanist and a realist rather than religious. To whit - they were wrong, wrong, wrong - yet publicly claim to have done nothing wrong (which may well just be their way of coping). They endangered their children. If nothing had happened to any of their children and I was dining at a table next to them and knew that they had left three children that young alone I may well have voiced my opinion as to how very wrong that is directly to them. Anything can happen with children that young. I don’t care if they have a ‘regular sleep schedule’. A sitter should have been present in the apartment with the children.
To the poster who suggests those who are critical of the McCanns are jealous of their station in life (I believe you said ‘their money’. Oh, honey you are wrong, wrong, wrong. This isn’t a class issue. It is a common sense and responsibility issue. I have not spoken with one person who is not aghast by what the McCanns did and the horrible consequences of their actions. From the extremely wealthy to the middle class - all are horrified and disturbed that any parent would leave their children the way the McCanns did.
As to myself and my child and the monitor. It was not just a sound monitor. It also had lights. Lights which lit up like Christmas with so much as a yawn or a snuffle or the shuffle of quiet, socked feet shuffling across the carpet.
Yes. Danger lurks around every corner. The boogeyman is alive and well and we should all be extra careful with our children. The simple fact of the matter is that Madeleine would be safe and well had her parents opted for a sitter or a meal in. If they had done their duty to their children. They are simply beyond lucky that the other two children are still in their lives. I have trouble imagining why on earth the abductor left them there, but they are - under the circumstances - unbelievably lucky to still have the twins.
June 14th, 2007 at 5:00 am
…I am deeply saddened that anyone can point the finger of guilt at Madeleine`s parents at this moment in time…that they must be living in a complete nightmare must go without saying…all of us who have children know what this nightmare consists of…and which of us parents has never committed the error, if error it be, of leaving our child/children unattended for a period of time…ok, the McCann children are very young but the parents weren`t that far away…a determined person could as easily enter the apartment/house whilst the parents slept and abduct the child, it`s been done…please save your condemnation for the person or persons who took Madeleine (and all the other `Madeleines` of whom we know nothing)…the McCanns are doing their own condemning…I hope that Madeleine is alive and well, in any event, I hope that she is found - nothing can be worse than not knowing…
June 14th, 2007 at 4:56 am
Comments from everyone — the worst part of it all is that none of the comments are helping to solve the problem.
Do those of you who have the worst things to say about the parents ever stop to think of the agony of the parents,their remorse,their sorrow and their frustration?
Just take it easy — after the child is found then you can stand on the mountain tops and scream your heads off.
Almost everyone has concluded that the child was taken by a man — what makes you so sure of that? This is just a rash conclusion - very similar to finding fault with the parents.
What stops people from commenting on the efficiency of the Portuguese Police — their slow and lacadaisical attitude and like bulls at a red rag running around in circles with no positive direction and no thought of alternatives which gave the culprit all the time in the world to get away.
And then to make matters worse there is one very intelligent idiot who thinks that the use of foul language - “F– ” - half a dozen times portrays her as a scholar and a prime example of intelligence personified.A woman at that — guess that is her living room language and there is nothing anyone can do about it.Thankfully there are good people who have told her where she gets off.
It is very easy to find fault and it is very hard to adopt a positive and helpful attitude.So — if you can’t come up with positive and helpful advice,think of the best alternative and do it.
June 14th, 2007 at 4:06 am
I am saddened by this whole event. I hope that Maddie is not just discarded. She looked like a very sweet child so full of life. Like the rest of the world I am waiting daily for news and was very unprepared for todays news. I hope it is false. My heart goes out to the family. Take care.
Sometimes parents make mistakes. I left my son in the car today to run in for his bottle. I locked the car but still I feel I was in error. It only takes a moment or one mistake to put your child in danger. In this world it is sad to think that the danger exists in the first place.
God Bless.
June 14th, 2007 at 3:29 am
Toscano gives a lot of details to the press about his experience with the “Frenchmen”. A lot of things he claims to have seen and experienced are not all that far fetched. They seem like things that pedo abductors could do with children. Maybe someone should talk to him?
He claims he knows who snatched Madeleine and that the guy deals in kiddie porn and torture. Then a couple of days later a mysterious letter appears claiming that Madeleine is dead and buried somewhere in Portugal. Toscano says the “Frenchmen” is known for laying low for a couple of months. Maybe that’s why there was no trace of Madeleine?
Dutroux, A pedo from Belgium, had 7 houses all over Belgium that he used for torturing and raping little girls. What Toscano describes has already happened. If this “Frenchmen” is in the ugly business of snatching and selling kids then he knows how to pull it off. When the heats too high don’t criminals dump the goods?
Geographically it all fits. Who’s to say this “Frenchmen” isn’t the one that killed those two little girls in Belgium too. Who’s to say he didn’t write the letter so everyone would just back off so he could go after others? Produce a body and the search is off right? Then again the “Frenchmen” could be make believe too….it can all be a diversion from Morroco…..it’s all become like a dog running in circles chasing it’s tail…..
Maybe it is all a hoax…..
June 14th, 2007 at 2:49 am
http://www.usleuth.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=513
June 14th, 2007 at 1:02 am
I feel that the parents are so stupid for leaving their children alone, i have a son and never in a million years would i leave him alone let alone in a different country.
I really do feel for these parents, even more so now that there is a letter alledging she is dead. They will have to live with their mistakes for the rest of their lives and this is punnishment enough. I dont think they will make the same mistake again. They are probably feeling very stupid as well.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:57 am
I hope it is not the case but i get the feeling she is dead. If she was kidnepped by pedophiles they would have no reason to keep her alive after all the media attention. I actually think that so much attention would be bad for any kidnapping case because it would scare the kidnapper and make them either not want to come forward or want to get rid of the girl/ evidence. I feel really sorry for the parents but i feel they have made some very bad decisions both in leaving their children alone and in encoraging so mach media attention.
June 14th, 2007 at 12:42 am
Gemma.
You are that very rare person without sin, so I guess you are allowed to throw stones.
I hope you continue in life doing no wrong, but if you do slip we will be sympathetic!!!.
Good Luck
June 14th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Suki Bapswent - finally someone with guts, you go girl!
To the hysterical others - get a fucking life. That kid is as dead as Elvis. Do you honestly think your handwringing will bring her back? Yeah, of course, a big bad man took her, I mean, no parent has EVER harmed a child in their care, have they? I mean, Fred West doesn’t count, he only raped and murdered his working class and **SHOCK** mixed-race kids. No blonde beauties in his collection, so it doesn’t really matter, does it?
Go and do something that will actually help children who still have a chance, eh, instead of parading around housing estates with a wicker phallus.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
KAT - this is about the mccanns - and you said - “I” - NINETEEN TIMES in one post…
That has gotta be some sort of record…?
( shakes head and switches off pc, while wondering who this actually IS about…..)
PS TO SCOTTISH MUMMY - YOU ARE ONE COMPASSIONATE AND HONEST LADY.
June 13th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Carol and many other sane people here - well said - STOP blaming - start acting, at the very least for the sake of precious Madeleine!!! We can all agree the Mccann’s did wrong - so WHO is perfect, I don’t know anyone - but some of you out there seem to THINK your are…funny enough most of you, with that attitude also seem to dislike people with money as well???? Hence why you seem to fire double barrels at the Mccanns!!! Shame on you!!!!! As for that horrendous petition - well please get a life!!
Please oh please let it not be little Madeleine’s body or any one else for that matter, on that wasteland!!! Let’s ALL put some positive thought and energy into finding Maddie safe and well and VERY soon!!!!!!!!! She needs to be re-united with her LOVING (not perfect) family!! XXX
June 13th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
These parents know they were wrong…They are paying heavily.
These are people who made a mistake and will have to pay for it
the rest of their lives. Over here in the states we have Amber law
that lets everyone know when there is a pediphile in our area.
This is great and I hope they will do this for all the world.
I have three small children like the mccanns …I would of never ..never..never done
what they did…however They need HELP..We can’t beat them up..you need to unite and find these sick people and stop blaming the mccanns…they need Help..pray…ask God for Change…There needs to be change..that this will never happen again and that people will learn from this mistake, …..They don’t need a petion signed they need
HELP AND GRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Why do “we” feel the need to point the finger of guilt? I’ve been so amazed at the number of people that have been quick to sit in judgement on the McCanns. How many parents live daily with quirks of fate that have resulted in the loss of their precious children through other people’s actions, such as hit and run drivers? Are those parents negligent for “allowing” their child to be killed? What about kids abducted during their play outdoors? Are parents irresponsible then? As onlookers, some of us are just grateful that it isn’t our child that’s been affected … there but the grace of God (or whoever/whatever you believe in) and don’t sit with the smug face of self-righteousness.
The person responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance is the one who deliberately snatched her. It doesn’t matter if it was a whim gone wrong, or pre-determined and planned … that act and the ensuing weeks of torment for her family, is pure evil. To hear of a possible “body” alert is so horrendous and unthinkable, to contemplate the alternatives of such a tiny mite being subjected to sexual abuse, even worse. My heart bleeds for the McCanns and the anguish they are living through. Isn’t it time for decent people to unite against those amongst us who see their own self gratification as all important? Put away your knitting needles and leave the guillotine for the person responsible!
June 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
This kidnapping was conducted in a professional manner, the perpetrator must have been aware that there was a young girl asleep in the room, and further they must have been aware the parents were not present at the time they chose to kidnap maddie. Whether this was a crime of the moment or whether this was an organised kidnapping by a global syndicate of highly placed pedophiles will not be know for sometime.
But to reflect on the comments of you readers and voice my own for a moment let me say; yes the parents are to blame and possibly also others e.g the sick individuals or the group that did this.
I would like to mention that some parents sell their children for ritualistic murder and in cases sex slavery, this doesnt happen often in western society but it does happen. The possibility exists that maddies parents are involved in this crime. “hold your abuse for later, i am merely speculating” Some people would do anything for money, and blackmail can force people to do unimaginable things.
So lets just imagine that religious extremist took her for ritualistic murder, i highlight here she was possibly kidnapped for the purpose of sacrifice on a specific day. Now to the note sent to the dutch paper, it seems alittle odd that this letter turn up after the families visit to the country, and even more odd that it is near identical to a previous letter sent to the same news paper, either someone knows alot about the individual who did this or otherwise they are privy to information that allows them to provide specific information detailing the location of the child. In either case someone knows something. This is also an oddity, how can someone know this? And it is odd that the person who kidnapped the belgian girls is locked away. How can someone know about such specifics unless they are intimately involved in the crime. I feel a global syndicate would include some individuals with conscious mind?? The meeting with the pope and religious leaders also has made me suspicious.
It has been shown time and again that religious leaders and highly placed politicians are prone to pedophilia and ritualistic behaviour, if you cant believe this please do your own research before abusing me.
To further my speculation perhaps the family has been blackmailed into allowing their child to be kidnapped, they are told go to portuguel stay at X hotel and at X hour leave your room unattended and unlocked…the family goes on holiday and at the specified hour they do as requested and suddenly their daughter is missing.
What also is significant is the money the family has generated in the search for their missing girl.
Ok so lets layout what happend: A UK couple went to portugel with 3 children, at a specific time those kids were left unattended, one of the children goes missing. the family partakes on a huge media campaign where they meet prominent figures from specific countries, e.g holland, Vatican, Morrocco and others they meet people such as the pope and heads of state. A call providing information is received from a phone brought in argentina, and a letter is sent to a dutch paper. this letter is near identical to one received regarding two belgian girls who were kidnapped over 1 year ago. The case has some big players and i bet we dont find the bottom of this.
So what comes next for maddie her parents and further what next for the pedophiles or kidnappers? Ideally the girl is safe the family are innocent and the people who did this have guilt and regret and the child is released, but life isnt always like that. Where there is light there is darkness.
i leave you to ponder
The woods are dangerous an unattended flock will be set on by wolves, this is nature.
Jacksirius