Madeleine McCann Not In Malta Or Morocco
FROM Paulo Reis in Portugal:
Portuguese CID spokesman, about Madeleine abduction: “The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz”
Portuguese authorities have dismissed as groundless all leads on sightings of Madeleine McCann in other countries rather than Portugal, namely in Morroco and Malta, said Polícia Judiciária (PJ), Portuguese CID, spokesman Olegário de Sousa (…) Further investigations are being carried out centered mainly on the area of Praia da Luz itself, said Mr. Olegário de Sousa. «The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz», according to other police source quoted by Diário de Notícias. (…)
Note: Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.
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November 19th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
This is the lastest e-mail on Brian Ladd’s site.
”BRIAN,
YOU GUESSED IT!! MR MURAT’S MUM IS DEFENDING HIM!! CLAIMS HE WAS IN ALL NIGHT!! UNLESS SHE SLEEPS NEXT TO HIM HOW WOULD SHE NO?? IF TEENAGERS ARE CAPABLE OF SNEAKING OUT, THEN MY GUESS IS THAT A GROWN MAN WOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE WHAT SO EVER.. (MAYBE SHE SLEEPS WITH ONE EYE OPEN??) WHERE WAS SHE WHEN HE WAS TALKING TO SERGEY MALINKA???
I FEEL THAT SHE IS EITHER VERY GULLABLE OR IS INVOLVED~!!!
P.S ROBERT MURAT ALSO CLAIMS THAT HE DID NOT NO ABOUT MADDIE TILL THE NEXT MORNING?? IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN WHY WOULD HE BE DISCUSSING ‘THE LITTLE BLONDE ENGLISH GIRL’ WITH SERGEY THAT NIGHT??, AND DIDN’T HE CALL HIS DAUGHTER THAT SAME NIGHT IN TEARS?? ALSO HOW COULD YOU NOT HEAR EVERYONE SCREAMING OUT MADELEINES NAME ON THE NIGHT THAT SHE WAS TAKEN?? IF THEY HAVE TWO DOGS YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE DOGS WOULD OF BEEN BARKING AT ALL THE PEOPLE SEARCHING AND SCREAMING OUT HER NAME.. WOULDN’T YOU???
P.S I STILL THINK (V.A) IS SHORT FOR VILLA ALICE???? MURAT’S MUM’S OTHER HOME, I THINK IT WAS LOCATED IN SPAIN!!??
ANGIE”
November 19th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
Hey Kat:
I’m with you on that one!! - I feel like running behind parents in Malls , and they are 10 feet furhter then their children.. or…. in toy stores.. where in some instances Peds. have been lurking in aisles and just waiting the moment to “attack” when the mom/dad is in the next aisle. It just happened recently actuallY!! or in libraries…. - especially in our neighborhoods, you see children unattended constantly to give the parents “a break” , please… -
I think I’m like you Kat, I think I’m a way too over protective parent. I even hold the shopping cart when I reach for something in the store!!!!! - and keep it close to me!
we should try to find a way to stop these peds……. but how??
November 19th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Hi Teresa and welcome to this board.
Hi Lauren,
For what it’s worth I agree with you 100% regarding the McCann’s and the way they acted on that night…..however I’m not going to keep on blaming them, what’s done is done and unfortunately we can’t turn back the clock. I’m going to support them in the hunt for their daughter and that’s where my alliance to the McCann’s end….my main priority and concern is Madeleine being found.
I agree all this could’ve been avoided if they’d acted like responsible parents and looked after their 3 young children.
I’d love to see the law being changed in this country regarding leaving children on their own but where does the law lie when children go out to play for hours at a time and their parents are indoors without knowing where their little ones are…..surely this is MORE dangerous than being left in an apartment or home, the child could easily get abducted or be a victim of a road traffic accident.
I know we can’t wrap our children up in cotton wool but the Government really needs to look at the whole situation and bring in new legislation to make sure our children are safeguarded and parents know what their responsibilities are. By the way I hold my hand up and admit that I’m an over-protective mother and my children probably think I’m over the top - but at least they’re safe !
November 19th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Lauren
We have been down this road with you before, NO ONE on this forum has ever said it was okay for the McCanns to leave their children alone.
I’m not supporting what the McCann’s did that night either, but my knowledge on paedophiles is that if a child is targeted by a ring then they will get that child by hook or by crook regardless of whether the parents are there or not! The McCann’s just made it easier for them that is all. The real criminal here is the person that took Madeleine, the McCann’s were irresponsible but they are not criminals. I don’t know where you live in the world but the UK and America have had it fair share of children being abducted by paedophiles while their parents have been in the next room-so we must not lose sight of what lengths these men will go to.
We are all entitled to our opinion on here and being adults we like to keep it friendly – no need for sarcasm, childish or offensive posts. The McCanns need the publics support so they can stay strong, because believe me if the McCanns crack or give up their search then so will the rest of the world! If you feel the need to crucify these people then at leastwait until Madeleiene is found!
November 19th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Hi everyone:
Finally the board is back up and running again! -
I see a new person on the board.. hi Teresa and welcome!-
I read about that PI that 48hrs Mystery (in the US) had a program on Maddie the other night and he said there was no way for the Mcs to have been able to see the door to their apart from their table. He was sitting at their same table. We do need to give everyone the benefit of doubt until they are proven guilty….. but my question all along has been : Why has no one been given the lie detector test ??????? - Don’t they have it in Portugal??? And what about the UK? They surely should have one in the UK???? - If I was so sure that I didn’t do anything wrong… I would take that lie detector test in a flash to get my name cleared and be off the hook!!! - Would I want to be walking around with “Suspect” written all over my face if I’m not guilty?? N O !!!!- That just boggles my mind…!-
November 19th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
Ditto that Anthony,
Did i miss a post somewhere that says RM arguido status is to be retained for another two months?? Wonder why that is?! I will be watching the programme tonight as i am keen to hear Mother Murat and Jane Tanner speak, see what they have to say. I know RM’s mother is adamant RM was there all night with her and iwould hope that no mother would protect someone who may be involved, knowingly lie for them…that said i know it happens, just when it’s a child you think how could anyone protect someone when the life of a child is at stake. Could be she really did beleive him to be at home if he really was at the Ocean Club apartments…it’s so confusing!
Anyway, where is everyone??
November 19th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
The witness is believed to have identified the woman as Mr Murat’s German-born girlfriend Michaela Walczuch.
since when has she been identified as the woman involved,yesterday the papers said that they knew who had her,today there is no mention of this,buckets of lies buckets and buckets of lies,
i have said all along that she will not be found by conventional means and we are seven months down the line here and nothing but lies and panic,her kidnappers have her well hidden,,,,,
i hope that this week brings something.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Alright Lauren, without being quite so spikey in my response i will say to you i agree with what you say in that Madeleine and Sean and Amelie should NEVER EVER have been left alone and i agree that it is even worse to hear them (allegedly remember, as Teresa pointed out we shouldn’t beleive all we read in the press, unless of course this comes out of their own mouths in the Docu tonight) say they had concerns about the security of their apartment, that isa truly damaging thing to admit to. I would never-nor would the posters here agree with what they ALL did that night nor would i ever leave my own children. But we are all entitled to believe and think and feel what we want. You have your opinions and i have mine, these should be respected. I think what it is here, and ithink i can speak for the majority, it isn’t so much disagreeing with people here its more about how it is done. There is no need for nastiness to others who do not share what you think, and there is no need for anyone of us to feel shamed for defending the McC’s because not one of us have defended their actions that night. I wouldn’t dream of saying to you or anyone shame on you for blaming them, its not a view i share but it is how you feel, fine but we are quite a friendly bunch here who do care about each others feelings so i hope should you continue to post that we can all get along. From your post i can glean that you care very much about what has happened to Madeleine and that is what every one of us here have in common. I just wish she could come home safely.
I was wondering IF the woman seen handing over a child was RM girlfriend wouldn’t it be illegal for M3 to investigate this as it is in Portugal?
November 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Just read on another forum, a post left by someone. It summed up completely what i think about all of this. If you were on holiday, would you leave, £10,000 on top of a bed in full view, leave the door of your apartment unlocked and go out for a meal? The answer of course would be no. And im sure if someone did do that, and got it stolen. Most people would be thinking how stupid of them to have left all that money on view, in an unlocked apartment to start with! Yet 3 children left alone? So that the parents could have a social life? Yet people are saying, cut the Mcs some slack?? I dont get it and to be honest im so glad that i dont.
The McCanns havent done or said anything to make me think that they have harmed Madeleine,(other than leaving her alone) but they certainly havent done anything to show that their children, were the most important thing to them either. Its what you do when no one is watching you that counts. Not what you suddenly protest or claim you feel when you have the focus of the worlds media is upon you. When no one was watching, they left 3 children, alone so they could go out, they did this repeatedly. And what stopped them? Not the thought their apartments wasnt secure? Not the hideous news reports you hear about paedophiles and the lengths they go to? Not the fact that is is wrong to leave 3 such small children unattended? What it took, to make them stop, was Madeleine, being taken. What a price she has had to pay for her parents selfishness and stupidity.
My daughter is my world. I think about her safety at all times. Can i keep her safe always? Perhaps not, but i will do my damndest to make sure that i do all that i can to keep her out of harms way. If any paedophile was watching me for instance, there would be no window of opportunity. Why? Because i am a responsible parent. Its that simple. You dont leave your children unattended.
I dont care if people view me as judgemental. My only concern is the children who are victims of child abuse in all its forms. My concern is Madeleine, not her parents, they made their choice. Thats something they have to live with, and although i feel sorry for the pain they must feel, i cannot get away from the fact this was avoidable, and the person feeling the most pain, is Madeleine, and breaks my heart to think of this little girl, at the hands of people i can only describe as inhuman and monsters.
I pray everyday for her safe return and for the world to wake up to what is happening to the most innocent members of our society. What kind of world do we live in, where this seems almost acceptable? Where paedophiles are given pathetic sentences? Where the paedophiles feelings are considered more than the child or the parents? Out the lot of them, i say. If you know someone who is a paedophile, put their photo everywhere. Make everyone aware, exactly who is living in our streets, our communities. If i had my way, they would either be facing the death penalty once it was established without doubt what they had done, or put on an island some where and left to die. They deserve the same sort of understanding and compassion that they show to their innocent victims - NONE WHATSOEVER.
November 19th, 2007 at 7:54 am
Read on the Sky website that the McCanns were concerned, BEFORE Madeleine went missing about the security to the rear of the apartment where they were staying. And said “maybe the weak spots were in the front”. Again another comment from the McCanns that makes me sick to be honest. They had concerns about the security of their apartment, YET they still decided to leave 3 children aged 3 and under alone. They had concerns about the security of their apartment and left the PATIO DOORS UNLOCKED!!! What selfish people they truly are. No wonder the majority of people have very little sympathy with them regards this matter. I feel so very sorry for those 3 children and especially, Madeleine, who is probably either dead or in the hands of paedophiles. Why there is a bunch of people on here, who want to defend the McCanns is beyond me. Their daughter is missing, due to the fact that they CHOSE to go out for a meal with their friends, LEAVING, their 3 children ALONE in an apartment, they felt wasnt secure and even thinking that, they left it unlocked. Poor poor Madeleine.
Anyone who responds to this post, in defense of the McCanns. To tell me of their loss, how bad they must feel, blah blah blah. Let me remind you, they were the adults, they were the ones meant to protect their children, not leave them in an unlocked apartment so that they could go out and fill their faces. Madeleine, a 4 year old child, is out there, somewhere. Being subjected to, well one shudders to think what she may being subjected to. Whilst Kate and Gerry returned to their family home, to sleep in their own beds, without anyone causing them physical and emotional pain and abuse. Any pain they feel is of their own making. They allowed this to happen. Shame on them. And shame on you for defending them.
November 19th, 2007 at 7:31 am
post 4977, is from maggie
Mods and admin, why cant I get my name up on the screen. All my posts are from anonymous.
maggie
November 19th, 2007 at 7:29 am
Teresa-4975
This case isn’t about you so what you would and wouldn’t do isn’t relevant.
Re: your link, like you said you shouldn’t read ‘any old rubbish dished out to them’. Now who’s being naive?
November 19th, 2007 at 6:48 am
Hi all
Theresa, don’t you think it is strange, that most experts don’t agree with you. It’s not just posters on this forum.
As to your quote, ”The whole thing stinks but people just shut their eyes and refuse to look squarely at what is in front of their eyes. They prefer to believe the spin and the lies, no matter how often or how much the details change and boy! have they changed over these past 6 months.” I’m in total agreement with you.
MADDIE PARENTS ‘WE LIED’
19th November 2007 By Jerry Lawton
MADELEINE McCann’s parents lied over her disappearance because they felt guilty at abandoning her, an investigator claimed last night.
Private eye Joe Moura spent two weeks undercover in the holiday resort where the child disappeared.
He believes Madeleine was the victim of a “perfect abduction” but accused her parents of telling the police “white lies’’ to mask their negligence.
He dismissed their claim they could see the door to their apartment from the tapas bar where they were dining, saying their vision was blocked by a wall and hedges.
And he said the couple’s failure to watch over the apartment increased the chances of an abductor striking successfully.
Moura, who runs the US-based National Investigation Bureau, said: “They would have had absolutely no possibility of seeing someone going in or out of that apartment from where they were that evening.
“They may have lied about being able to see it because they feel guilty about leaving the kids. But these white lies would not have helped the police investigation.
“People say they killed their daughter but they were able to have dinner with friends like nothing happened. I’m not buying that – it’s a crazy thought.
“Whatever the parents are, they are not killers of their daughter. The child was abducted.
“It would’ve had to have been the perfect abduction – to come and go without leaving a trace. But that is what it was.”
Moura told US television investigation show 48 Hours Mystery that the McCanns’ nightly routine was similar and they were probably being watched by the abductor.
He said: “It was a perfect situation, a solid routine with the parents, an apartment that wasn’t locked, easy access and an easy exit.’’
Moura also dismissed claims by the McCanns’ pal Jane Tanner that she had seen the kidnapper carrying Madeleine.
He said: “I believe the abductor went through the back door of the apartment, snatched her from the bed and strolled out of the front door.
“The front door leads out to a car park where I believe he had a car. He was off and gone in minutes.”
His revelations came as the missing four-year-old’s GP mum Kate, 39, refused to take a lie detector test.
Yesterday it was revealed that she and heart consultant husband Gerry, 39, had declined a polygraph examination despite saying in September that they would participate in one.
Meanwhile, the mother of the other suspect in the case, 33-year-old Robert Murat, has accused the McCanns’ pals of lying to try and put her son in the frame.
Jenny Murat, 71, will tonight tell BBC1’s Panorama that her son was with her when Madeleine disappeared on May 3.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/pos…..-we-lied-/
November 19th, 2007 at 1:34 am
How naive some people are - they believe any old rubbish dished out to them. As for ‘walk the earth and search for her’ - it would make more sense to dig for her or trawl the sea for her. Look - there was a body in the apartment! Whose body do you think this was? Who is missing? How many sightings have there been? How many have been correct? Why, after Madeleine had been missing only a few weeks, was her father talking about the one-year anniversary? (link - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/8736/Lets+hold+a+Madeleine+Day+for+the+whole+world) - that they would hold a rock concert later on, ‘not the one-year anniversary’ - how could he possibly have known there would ever be a one-year anniversary? That Madeleine wouldn’t turn up with a few more days or weeks?
And as for hoping they’ll take a lie detector test - they’ll jump in a volcano sooner, I’d say. They’ve refused and we have a right to wonder why. If a child of mine had disappeared and I was suspected of hiding something I’d be DEMANDING a lie detector test to prove my innocence. Not backtracking as fast as possible.
The whole thing stinks but people just shut their eyes and refuse to look squarely at what is in front of their eyes. They prefer to believe the spin and the lies, no matter how often or how much the details change and boy! have they changed over these past 6 months. The details were actually changing on a daily basis from day one, but they haven’t stopped evolving yet - we should eventually get a version to satisfy most people. lol
November 19th, 2007 at 12:39 am
Hi all
Hi Mike, I think it is quite telling that Robert Murat’s arguido status hasn’t been lifted and has in fact been extended for two momths. Two months? Will they just renew it again or do they think they can resolve something within that time limit?
Hi Anonymous, good news about Porter, but ‘life sentence’ or a ‘wee terminal jab’ would have been even better.
Hi Kirstie, thanks and nice to be back. Thanks too, to everyone who made comments about my mother. I am going to clarify her situation soon and hope that the mods take it as being in the context of and relative to finding missing children, like Madeleine.
Hi Sally, fingers crossed too, that it is Madeleine. Let’s also hope that Matthew James is right when he says ”the game is indeed nearly up.”
Hi Anthony, good advice for the McCanns and as to ”all the tapas 9 left their kids alone that night but only gerry and kate mccann are taking the blame for it all,they could have taken any child that night but the mccanns apartment is the easiest to rob,if gerry and kate had been in another apartment then the chances are that the child would not have been taken and some other kid would have gone missing.” there but for the Grace of God go I, comes to mind. The abductors chose the wrong child with regard to the fight that the McCanns have put up to find her and are now being made to suffer horrendously, because of their ‘unprecedented’ way of doing so. Shame on all those who have tried to distract us from the core aspect of this case and that is trying to find a small child who may be alive and truly needs everyone to support and help her parents in their efforts to find her.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:26 am
Hi All
I really would like to reiterate what Isla and Kirstie have said. I, for one, would have collapsed in absolute despair about Madeleine if I hadn’t had you folks to talk to and share all our ideas and thoughts. Even though it still isn’t over I feel that maybe, just maybe, she is on the verge of being found. I really do hope so, it has been a long haul and that little girl deserves every bit of luck she can get. I just hope when they find her she will be able to recover from all of this nightmare, but I’m sure she will with the love and care that her parents will give her.
If I were the McCanns I would now give every bit of information I could about Madeleine’s abduction, and not give a hoot what the Portuguese secrecy laws say. It has been reported that Jane Tanner faces a two year prison sentence because she has spoken out. I really can’t see her going back to Portugal to give them the opportunity of carrying that out. Personally, I wouldn’t have waited until now to give my version of events, I would have given every detail as soon as my feet touched British soil.
Thanks Mike for your subtle message in support of me earlier on, it was much appreciated. I will now concentrate again on bringing Madeleine home, instead of wasting time commenting on anti-McCann posts.
Latest from Brian Ladd from comment from one of his posters asking what he thought of the latest developments ……..
reply
Hi Sally…me too, but they did say this on the CBS TV show 48 hours, and millions of people in the US were watching, so I do not think any psyop tactics were used in this case.
I’m not sure yet about Michaela yet, will have to go back and look. However, it does seem that I was wrong, and Madeleine is not at Murat’s house…I felt so certain that she was there and he was the one that took her…anyway, her being alive is really all that matters, and congratulations to the people at Metodo 3…wonderful work…keep it up.
Brian
Seems as though he is admitting that he may be wrong. But I still think Murat was involved in some way, especially if it is true that his girlfriend was!!!
November 18th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Wow Mike, i wonder if that is true! I also cannot for the life of me understand why on earth this person is only just coming forward now! I hope that this is news that will lead to the safe return of Maddie but again i just think it’s so stupid giving the abductor/s a head start. I am at a loss to try and fathom out why they are giving so much information out.
Isla, this is a really good forum and i too am proud to be a part of it- nice to see you posting again by the way!!
Hope everyone had a good week-end!
November 18th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
Murat’s girlfriend ’spotted with Madeleine’ two days after she vanished
By VANESSA ALLEN - More by this author »
Last updated at 18:45pm on 18th November 2007
Police hunting for Madeleine McCann are investigating a new sighting of a child spotted with the girlfriend of official suspect Robert Murat.
A new witness has told detectives they saw Madeleine in Portugal two days after her disappearance, with a man and a woman.
The witness is believed to have identified the woman as Mr Murat’s German-born girlfriend Michaela Walczuch.
November 18th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Hi all
It’s good to see that the site is up and running again and the latest M3 news seems heartening. Let’s just hope and pray it’s true.
I found this on Matthew James site and felt that it just summed up how frightening this case has become. The plight of Madeleine and her parents is horrendous enough, but the reaction of many members of the public is absolutely stomach churning. I just have to tell myself that this case has resulted in many forums being set up that have attracted people who want to make comments about the case. Some posters are convinced that Madeleine is alive and that the parents are innocent, some think that the parents are guity and want justice for Madeleine and there are the others who imo are totally cruel and vindictive, are using this case to ‘dump’ their personal psychological baggage and don’t really give a damn about Madeleine at all. I have to say that I am PROUD to be part of THIS forum and to have ‘met’ so many decent people. Coming on here restores my faith in humanity. Thanks all.
”Matthew James
”IS It A Bird, Is It A Plane…No….
Learning about WWII at school, I was horrified at how normal people turned on each-other in Nazi Germany. I was mystified at how easy it was for human beings to betray one another in the most brutal fashion; Friends turned on friends, children turned on parents, and informers sold their soul to the devil and betrayed us all. However, I could excuse the behaviour to a certain extent by looking at the totalitarian regime they were living under.
Following the Madeleine McCann case on the Internet recently I have started to get that familiar sick feeling I felt during my school studies. Thanks to the net, the malice and soul-less-ness of certain people is vomited all over any forum that dares to mention Madeleine without calling for the death - real or psychological - of her parents.
One Blogger/journalist has called for the people of Portugal, in future, to ‘inform’ on any tourists they see leaving their children alone. He has asked that people call the police or social services and report these visitors. I’d love to see the posters asking tourists to visit Portugal where your child can be taken from you if you inadvertently upset a local hell bent on revenge, or move more than a yard away from them at the pool or beach. Disturbingly, this blogger got a comment thanking him for his post, from a man that signed off saying ‘Help us in Britain’
Well fear not Mr Help us in Britain, help is on the way in the form of Mr Tony Bennett. Not to be confused with the singer, Mr Bennett is a retired solicitor from Harlow who has woken up this week and decided to wear his undies on the outside of his trousers. He has morphed into SuperSolicitor, on a crusade to punish the parents of a missing child, lest any of us follow their lead.
It seems SuperSolicitor is worried that the McCanns have made having a child abducted look so appealing that we may all be tempted to do the same. SS as I like to call him (not to be confused with the Gestapo) has decided to help all of us thus tempted by attempting to launch a private prosecution against the McCanns for alleged child neglect. Because having their child kidnapped is clearly not punishment enough.”
November 18th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
post 4968, is from Maggie
November 18th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Hi all
I read this on another Madeleiene forum while this one was down. Although I dont think the judge got it right in the end I guess it better then nothing. All our letters to Avon and Somerset police payed off but I still think he should have got life!
Paedophile Michael Porter has been sentenced to 18 month in prison after Judges at the Court of Appeal decided his original sentence was to soft. Porter was a senior Jehovah’s Witness and was handed a three year community rehabilitation order in August,
after pleading guilty to 24 counts of indecent assult and gross indecency on children.
Thank goodness the “Shirt-lifter” is now in Jail. The Judges got it right in the end.
November 18th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Insights exploring the current trends in the situation as depicted by the media stories. Let us assume for a moment (for once) that the media reports are correct at this point in time …. be interesting to see what insights are uncovered whilst making this assumption …
Well, well … so much for trusting the press in this instance! Look at that central card … 7 of Cups - DELUSION. It is still a smokescreen and still a pinocchio’s nose!
There are nine stones … and they are cast in a way that indicates that certain time lines and certain information trails are out of sync … interestingly the Three of Pentacles which is the card of foundation depicts someone before a computer screen … a journalist perhaps writing what he or she is instructed to write even now … it is no different …. than before. There is a leak there somewhere and someone still lurks in the higher offices of the media buildings controlling what is written and what is not written. Those communications from other compartments within the pyramid structure still continue.
The truth is most certainly out there … the white stone of trust is there on the working … but it is beside the stone which denotes impatience …. like the journalists themselves do not believe what they are writing but have to because it is their jobs on the line if they don’t. I wonder when the first journalist breaks for cover and claims revelations of scandal behind the scenes … there is someone itching to here? Will they be permitted to or will it be a little like in Russia and these truth seekers be made to disappear? Surely that doesn’t happen in the UK surely? Perhaps this relates to another country?
The Queen of Swords (again) sits on her throne holding the sword … before her is an abyss … a rift which must be crossed in order to gain possession back of the sword. Below her image is the Ace of Cups … water seeps from the rift before her … into the chalice held by a figure below some of the escaping water is collected. A poignant image indeed … there are cracks in the walls it seems …. leaks in the plumbing perhaps … hints of chickenfeed … some truth within the lies … something is about to give like the dam wall about to burst perhaps? There is something emotional about those who now hold MM … something different like a change in the wind ….
It no longer seems that the same people have custodianship of MM …. how long can the smokescreen barrier hold in place? The Page of Swords has laboured long and hard to climb from rock bottom to the top of the abyss before its Queen … basically … the combination of the Page of Swords and the Art card … indicate the pursuit of the abductors quietly and most certainly covertly by intellgence sources … the page has almost reached the point where he can take a peek at the Queen of Swords from within the abyss. The game is indeed nearly up … the word ‘decomposition’ relates to the decaying health of the perpetrators grip on MM and the control of the situation.
Previous insights using the Navigator’s tarot have indicated the Art image as the pursuit of those who hold MM by intelligence agencies. The observations and the waiting game … the Page of Swords indicates the swinging into action of someone or something … and it is not detrimental to MM … on the contrary … MM is still in safe hands and preparations are made for her transportation to elsewhere … in readiness.
The images of the Fool and the 6 of Wands are incredibly positive … the emergence of the Fool after such a long time … and the word triumph on the top of the six of wands …
The key numbers here are 1, 3, 6, 7 & 9 …. a combination thereof …. to perhaps perceive a key date ahead?
The crystal trail indicates an arrow it seems ….toward a valley that nestles at the base of a tall peak? Or is that peak too steep to be a mountain … I sense perhaps a village which has a distinctive church spire ….
But I must stress again the need to be wary of lingering delusion with the media reports. There is a fragment of Fool’s Gold in the working meaning all is still not what it appears to be. I sense strongly the need to avert my attention away from what is within the smokescreen … crucial cover is required by those who still participate in the real investigation … something key is being undertaken at this time … the Nine of Cups depicts the pressure and the stress and the long hours being worked to resolve a very delicate situation.
November 18th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
to mike,,,,,
I have been reading your posts on the other forum, and it appears to me you won’t rest until ” cuddle cat ” is arrested and put away…show some compassion.
i thought it was the horse that did it,but seriously the reason finding her is so hard is because people are putting up what they see as the truth and shouting anyone who does not agree with them down,this has led to massive confusion in the search for the child,,,,,
as for mondonto 3 statement that they know who took her and are closing in on them may be a ruse to force her kidnappers to make a mistake,the pj said months ago that they knew as well and were closing in and then made gerry and kate suspects so belive it when you see the child,i have read the press realese several times and am sceptical.do you blame me,
i cannot find any mention of the 60 year old woman who was found with an american child in the rif mountains,i have read a lot about it but cannot find any mention of the child in real life and there are no pictures of her at her home or any family members saying she belongs to us,nothing at all.i hope that mondonto 3 find her or turn up the people who took her as even if she is dead which i hope not then if people are identified as being involved then others can make them tell us where they hid the body so she can have the dignity of a funeral with her family there.
the motavation of people involved in the search seems to be the reward money offered by others,if you find her then jk rowlings will give you a million pounds and put you in her next book harry potter and the gang of sicko scumbags child snatchers,thats where harry potter gets framed for madelines murder and has to go to portougal and battle corrupt police men and their government while the news papers blame hogwarts for letting kids out on their own……
in the last four months i have seen several posters on here take a lot of their own time to try and help the child for no reward and have seen them type more pages than most writers can,this is all free of charge,i would like to think that mondonto 3 can find her as they are making the right noises and moves in that direction and with xmas aproaching the mccanns want a result,ie madeline back alive hopefully or if she is dead then that also to bring closure to it all,its looking like mondonto 3 are all the hope they have.
all the tapas 9 left their kids alone that night but only gerry and kate mccann are taking the blame for it all,they could have taken any child that night but the mccanns apartment is the easiest to rob,if gerry and kate had been in another apartment then the chances are that the child would not have been taken and some other kid would have gone missing.
the only advice i can give the mccanns is this,FIGHT AND DO NOT STOP FIGHTING UNTIL YOU HAVE HER BACK DEAD OR ALIVE,BREAK ALL THE RULES AND FIGHT AS DIRTY AS YOU CAN,
madeline mccann was taken nearly seven months ago but it only seems like it was last week,
this is not really as point its just how i feel,its like she was taken yesterday and seven months down the line she is still missing.its only five weeks to xmas and to the police closing the case so keep your ear to the ground and we will see what happens,
you do not need proof to get her back you just need someone who knows where she went and with who,
small prayer for the child that her searchers are close.
November 18th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Hopefully the news on Sky today and The Daily Mail will lead to something seems like Metro3 have identified the people handing over and taking this child however I would not refer to Madeleine as a baby and you would think she would struggle when handed over which troubles me slightly, this person must have given a very good description of this person for the Portugese Police to be looking for them, lets hope it leads to something, but if she was seen in Central Portugal 2 days after her abduction she could be anywhere now, Im sure though if they locate the Kidnappers they will probably talk and tell them were madeleine is, fingers crossed that they are on to something
November 18th, 2007 at 9:34 am
A new witness in the Madeleine McCann case has told police she saw a woman surreptitiously hand over “a baby in a blanket” to a man two days after the toddler’s disappearance. Private investigators hunting for four-year-old Maddie were contacted last week and the information has been given to the Portuguese police.
The witness claims she saw a woman pass on the child to a man in central Portugal, about 100 miles from the resort of Praia da Luz, where the McCanns were staying. The man and woman then left in different vehicles and in different directions.
Some details of the witness’s statement will be revealed in BBC1’s Panorama programme tomorrow by Francisco Marco, the head of Metodo 3, the private detective team hired by Kate and Gerry McCann. Although it has taken the person six months to come forward, Metodo 3 are taking the sighting seriously. Their investigators believe they now know the identity of the couple and have passed that information to Portuguese detectives in charge of the investigation.
The detective firm is linking the sighting to one made by the McCann’s friend, Jane Tanner, on the evening of May 3 when Maddie vanished.
She said she saw a child in pink pyjamas being carried away from the Ocean Club apartments in the Algarve resort. Mr Marco tells Panorama: “We’re 100 per cent sure that she is alive. We are sure she was abducted. We are very, very close to finding the kidnapper.”
A police source said: “Portuguese officers are investigating a possible Madeleine sighting in central Portugal two days after she disappeared. The witness rang the Metodo 3 hotline.
“She said she had seen a woman drive up to a man waiting for her in another car and hand him over a young child wrapped in a blanket.
The man and woman then drove off in separate directions. Neither was Portuguese. The couple acted as if they were trying to hide the youngster and it seemed very odd to the witness.”
Heart expert Mr McCann, 39, tells Panorama he believes his family was watched in the days before the disappearance and then targeted by Madeleine’s abductor.
He says of their holiday apartment: “It’s a corner flat with trees overlooking it. Somebody could be hiding there watching out of view.There was a window of opportunity and that’s the regret that we’ll always have. I’ve no doubt that Madeleine was targeted and that makes us sick to the core to think that someone was watching us and our daughter and then targeted her. I’ve got absolutely no doubt that they’ve watched me go in, come back out, and then they’ve thought, ‘That’s the window of opportunity to get in and get back out.’”
November 18th, 2007 at 5:34 am
4961 - Mike
“Cuddle Cat” - ah, never thought of that one!
Yes, got the wrong thread re cars in different directions…personally, can’t believe the newest sighting…
Ta
November 18th, 2007 at 5:20 am
Hi Lyn
I have been reading your posts on the other forum, and it appears to me you won’t rest until ” cuddle cat ” is arrested and put away…show some compassion.
November 18th, 2007 at 4:47 am
Hi Lyn
Your really clutching at straws now, if you read that report it doesn’t mention anywhere that it was them, and indeed there was two cars involved, and the man and woman left in different directions. Whats the problem your forum still not on line..
Quote:
” The man and woman then left in different vehicles and in different directions “.
November 18th, 2007 at 3:56 am
Was the high mileage of the McCann’s car ever looked into. This long distance away from holiday place could account for some of the mileage on the car.
November 18th, 2007 at 3:49 am
Hi Everyone
This could be good news.
A new witness in the Madeleine McCann case has told police she saw a woman surreptitiously hand over “a baby in a blanket” to a man two days after the toddler’s disappearance.
Private investigators hunting for four-year-old Maddie were contacted last week and the information has been given to the Portuguese police.
The witness claims she saw a woman pass on the child to a man in central Portugal, about 100 miles from the resort of Praia da Luz, where the McCanns were staying.
The man and woman then left in different vehicles and in different directions.
Some details of the witness’s statement will be revealed in BBC1’s Panorama programme tomorrow by Francisco Marco, the head of Metodo 3, the private detective team hired by Kate and Gerry McCann.
Although it has taken the person six months to come forward, Metodo 3 are taking the sighting seriously.
Their investigators believe they now know the identity of the couple and have passed that information to Portuguese detectives in charge of the investigation.
The detective firm is linking the sighting to one made by the McCann’s friend, Jane Tanner, on the evening of May 3 when Maddie vanished.
Mrs McCann, 39, is shown on Panorama hanging out washing and talking of the guilt she and her husband feel about Maddie’s disappearance
She said she saw a child in pink pyjamas being carried away from the Ocean Club apartments in the Algarve resort.
Mr Marco tells Panorama: “We’re 100 per cent sure that she is alive. We are sure she was abducted. We are very, very close to finding the kidnapper.”
A police source said: “Portuguese officers are investigating a possible Madeleine sighting in central Portugal two days after she disappeared. The witness rang the Metodo 3 hotline.
“She said she had seen a woman drive up to a man waiting for her in another car and hand him over a young child wrapped in a blanket.
Madeleine McCann has been missing since May 3rd
“The man and woman then drove off in separate directions. Neither was Portuguese. The couple acted as if they were trying to hide the youngster and it seemed very odd to the witness.”
Heart expert Mr McCann, 39, tells Panorama he believes his family was watched in the days before the disappearance and then targeted by Madeleine’s abductor.