Madeleine McCann Not In Malta Or Morocco
FROM Paulo Reis in Portugal:
Portuguese CID spokesman, about Madeleine abduction: “The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz”
Portuguese authorities have dismissed as groundless all leads on sightings of Madeleine McCann in other countries rather than Portugal, namely in Morroco and Malta, said Polícia Judiciária (PJ), Portuguese CID, spokesman Olegário de Sousa (…) Further investigations are being carried out centered mainly on the area of Praia da Luz itself, said Mr. Olegário de Sousa. «The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz», according to other police source quoted by Diário de Notícias. (…)
Note: Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.
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December 2nd, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Madeleine McCann suspect Robert Murat is back in the frame after two new witnesses say they saw him the night the four-year-old disappeared,” says Campbell of the Mirror
And: “The private detectives from Metodo 3 are also investigating a tip-off that Murat had connections to the criminal underworld and was working as a police informant”
Another lead for the private detectives. Keep those invoices coming…
Says a source inside Metodo 3: “There are serious questions around Murat’s alibi. He says he was at his mum’s house and did not learn of Madeleine’s disappearance until the following morning. But his claims have now been challenged by five eyewitnesses. Three of the McCanns’ friends have always insisted they saw him that night. They say they are sure it was him because of his distinctive right eye. Now two new people have contacted us saying they are certain they also saw him. They do not know each other and called our hotline independently”
“Case ‘will close in 4 weeks’” – “Top cop” Paulo Rebelo “plans to close the case in one month”
SUNDAY MAIL: “Madeleine: British police to question the McCanns ‘in days’”
“A close friend of the McCanns said they believed that only the seven friends would face questioning” - so nothing arranged yet..?
He adds: “We believe that we are getting close to the couple being cleared.”
A spokeswoman for the Home Office says: “If the Portuguese police were to require to travel to the UK then they would need to apply for mutual legal assistance from the Home Office”
SUNDAY PEOPLE: “McCanns to face fresh police quiz”
Says a judicial source: “Without forensic proof the investigators have to go for the contradictions in the stories of the McCanns and the other witnesses. The investigation has not changed direction. Authorities believe the McCanns and the other official suspect Robert Murat are implicated”
No news is news
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Article in Sunday Mirror
Madeleine McCann suspect Robert Murat is back in the frame after two new witnesses say they saw him the night the four-year old disappeared.
The British expat has always insisted he spent the entire evening of May 3rd inside his mothers villa.
But the new accounts handed over to detectives hired by the McCann’s threaten to contradict his alibi.
Five people have now reported seeing Murat, 33, outside the McCann’s apartment that night.
The private detectives from Metodo 3 are also investigating a tip-off that Murat had connections to the criminal underworld and was working as a police informant.
The latest witnesses contacted metodo 3 seperately to say they spotted Murat walking along a road outside the McCann’s apartment the night Madeleine was snatched.
The tourists who were on holiday in Luz have given detailed statements which contradict Murat’s claim that he did not leave his mum Jennifer’s home.
M3 is also working on a tip that Murat had acted as a police informer. Our source said: ” It explains why police were so quick to allow him to work as a translator and enter the crime scene after she disappeared.
M3 are also working on a theory a ” spotter ” took pictures of dozens of girls at the resort before Madeleine was picked out by a paedophile gang. Our source said ” Detectives are sure Madeleine was stolen to order.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 am
Hi all
Isla-5250
At last! Something positive, let’s hope this is true what’s being printed and the ‘breakthrough’ the PJ need.
Swissmiss-5253
I hope the PJ have looked at this place, It’s tucked away nice and private. I found the comment ‘adults only’ a bit strange too. To me that suggests something seedy! You would have thought it would say ‘no children-pets-smoking’ etc like Isla suggested.
Mike-5255
Save your breath, this person is not worthy of a response from you, Isla or anyone else for that matter. They come on this forum and choose to ignore all the good people that post good info and truly have Madeline interest at heart, and instead turn it into a childish argument, it’s not even sensible debate it’s just nasty childish sarcastic arguing! They are trying to turn this whole affair into a mockery of Madeleine! Ignore them; they might even go away………..
With regards to Brian Ladd, people like him, GOD and Religion, it’s a personal choice whether or not one chooses to believe or not. But again this person choose to respond with nothing more them sarcasm and we all know it’s the lowest form of wit.
December 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 am
Hi Annie/Alice or whatever your calling yourself now.
Although I would not leave my children alone in a hotel room, I have like ALL parents made plenty of other parenting decisions which could have torn our lives apart. If those writing cruel messages have children they will know exactly what I mean. Have you never driven that bit too fast? or lost site of your child in a busy place? or let them play outside without watching them every moment? need I go on? if someone is intent on hurting or kidnapping a child the opportunities are there - we are just the lucky ones who have not had to deal with the consequences of a “bad decision”. It is obvious that Kate and Gerry McCann are extremely decent and loving parents and all I would say is that there are millions of people who are supporting them,and a few bitter twisted and sad individuals like you who leave negative messages,and enjoy goading everyone that posts, and all you want to do is to stir up hatred.
and yet again you jump to the wrong conclusions preferring to make cocky comments. I prefer to make my comments under the same name.
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Mods and Admin
Mike, you must make it clear that in your opinion Kate and Gerry are decent parents etc.
Its a matter of perception, and you must not project your view onto another poster.
The users name is Annie, and is not Alice.
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 am
Hi Swissmiss
I’m still up! I really have to get to bed as I have to be out for 10am. The farmhouse story may also apply to the M3 Moroccan story - farm - shed etc. We’ll find out tomorrow.
Good for you finding/posting the Eveleigh inn and isn’t it strange to state adults only? Most people would say no smoking, pets, children.
Anyway Steph have to get to bed. Keep up the good work.
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:18 am
I think you posted this Isla about the Inn in Burgau. Here is their site if you ‘d like to take a look at it. It says on there that no children are allowed there. …… That already there sounds fishy…. to me….-
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December 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 am
Hi everyone:
Hey Isla:
#5250- Yes, RM’s uncle has an inn in Burgau, I found the name of it before but can’t remember it now!! :(- you think she’s at the inn?????? -She is def. with someone from RM’s family.. I have a gut feeling. When did they find the DNA is it a fresh one??
December 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 am
Hi Isla
Yes, I have had terrible trouble getting onto Brian Ladd’s site, I’ve tried tonight and succeeded, but it took a long time to connect. He has said that he is having trouble with his connection and it is being worked on to get it corrected, so hopefully it will be sorted soon. He has a great many people helping him try to trace Madeleine, it would be fantastic if she was found because of something connected to his site. Then the disbelievers would have something to think about!!!!
I really hope that something comes of the DNA found in the farmhouse, but as all of the other wild goose chases in the Express, they report it one day and then nothing is heard again. Just seems to be a good way of selling their paper.
December 2nd, 2007 at 12:22 am
Hi all
Sunday Express headlines.
Madeleine’s DNA found at a deserted farmhouse. I wonder if it’s in Burgau, as some reports say the PJ have been searching in the area of Burgau. The only person I am aware of who lives there is RM’s uncle who owns a beach front pub/restaurant.
Does this indicate that the PJ are onto someone/something? God, I hope Madeleine is still alive.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Hi all
This article is in Portuguese but has been translated, albeit poorly. See below.
I just hope it’s correct, as it highlights that Madeleine may still be alive.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g46TJ4R3s2bM3w_2jWrw_UC2m2EA
LISBON (AFP) - The analysis of DNA evidence found in the apartment where she disappeared from the small British Madeleine McCann, last May in Portugal, do not allow to confirm her death, said Saturday that two Portuguese newspaper, quoting sources related to the investigation.
Experts from the British forensic science (FSS), which made the tests, failed to isolate the DNA of the “biological traces” discovered in an apartment complex in Praia da Luz (south of Portugal), who were very deteriorated, the newspaper explained Daily News and the magazine Expresso, after a meeting of experts British and Portuguese in England.
The result of the preliminary analysis “does not establish with certainty” that the girl died, and also does not blame his parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, indicted on September 7 last but left at liberty, wrote Express.
Parents of Maddie are accused by the judicial police (PJ) Portuguese have accidentally killed his daughter and hidden her body.
Experts at FSS and PJ Portuguese met Thursday in England, a place not specified officially.
The doctor-legistas Portuguese “were talking about the results of tests, ask questions and understand the way the tests were conducted,” informed a source of the medical-legal, cited by the magazine Expresso.
Madeleine’s parents say she disappeared on May 3 while she slept in the apartment resort of Praia da Luz, while they were dining with friends in a restaurant nearby.
The couple McCann launched a major international campaign to mobilize to find her daughter. After having been indicted by the Portuguese police, they hired a team of detective to prove their innocence and then looking Madeleine, which according to them was seqüestrada.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Hi Isla - I just chucked a couple of dice across the table and got a 4 and a 5 - does this mean that the Tapas 9 are involved or does it mean that they are not - hang on a minute I just chucked them again - a 1 and a 3 - now then that adds up to 4 - this probably means that it will all conclude on the 4th - or does it mean that there are 4 of the tapas lot involved OR does it mean I chucked a couple of dice and there was a six to one chance of any number coming up and a 100 per cent chance of interpreting any number to mean something significant.
December 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Mike - I cant really understand why you bother with these sites - it seems that you are against debate, against speculation, dont know anything about police procedures, dna or anything else according to your recent post - BUT you are here reading about psychic readings and dreamers. In my opinion there is nothing more damning or insulting to the likes of the McCanns than to quote what some bloke in the US has or says he has dreamed about.
December 1st, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Hi all
Is anyone else having problems with B. L’s site?
Anyway, this is the latest from M. J.
Saturday 1st December 2007
NZ
10:35pm - 11:05pm
‘Insight relating to the present day. In the light of recent media reports … the working is an ‘exploration’ of the current media stories … ‘
Only eight stones in the crystal casting yet there are the Tapas nine in the news about to be all interviewed. Ok, so in recent stories we read that Jane Tanner has broken cover and said her piece. So that is nine minus one which is eight. So let us speculate that eight of the nine are being re-interviewed?
Stones 7 and 8 upon the card of the Chariot are perhaps Gerry & Kate … from one of these stones a small red string upon the Chariot image is seen to lead down to the bowing figure there who holds the sword … sworn subject of the Charioteer. Thus it asks again is Gerry in some way linked to those who took MM? Is it down his connections alone … that caused the mystery to occur? I speculate it is GM signified by this stone because the other stone is the pink stone of ‘mother love’ …
One of the stones - stone 2 - is a large piece of Fool’s Gold … all is not well then with what one of the group has to say. A discrepancy or a mistake … all that glitters is not necessarily gold … I intuit because of the image of the Page of Pentacles indicating a traveller … that it is this member of the group is who the investigators wish to have further discussions with. There is a flaw or a contradiction of some magnitude it seems with another of the group’s statement. But which one … ?? The Ten Of Wands depicts a great burden on one of the group. There is something of significance certainly being withheld … this has been speculated upon before. It is for the protection of MM I feel this something is being withheld …
Some clue to the path or the plight of they who took MM … a collaboration somewhere close to the PJ perhaps which has to remain hidden for fear of compromise? The event of the PJ being in the Uk appears to be a double edged sword. The piece of Fool’s Gold appears to be a beacon to warn that all is not what it seems …
The King of Cups indicates the transition or the change afoot in the direction of the case … the Charioteer appears to lead it now to a conclusion … conclusion being the word on this image ….
6 of Pentacles suggests there is compensation of some kind … a last ditched attempt to substantiate why Kate & Gerry were made official suspects. The need to avoid a writ and a liable case … there is someone within the Portuguese government it seems with egg on their face … deceived by a spin from their counterparts … a diplomat issue … that is kept hidden deep by agencies of intelligence?? The trojan horse perhaps … the subterfuge ….
The 3 of Cups and the 10 of Cups … are both images of accomplishment and abundance … hinting things may be a little more positive than is reported in the media. The worker bees of the tabloids appear to be at arms length now … as this current smokescreen hides something else. All attention is at the front door … whilst someone is able to sneak out the backdoor ….
Something of worth being comprehended does not seem to be that far away …
December 1st, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Hi all
The latest Sky news report suggests that Jacqui Smith has given her permission for the McCanns and friends to be requestioned and not before time, imo, as they have had 7 months to do it.
The following article predates Sky News report.
Permission needed to quiz McCanns
Saturday December 1, 2007 1:38 PM
Portuguese police would need the permission of the Home Secretary if they wanted to re-interview Kate and Gerry McCann or their friends on British soil, a police source said.
There have been reports that the McCanns could be re-interviewed by Portuguese officers or detectives from Leicestershire Police in connection with the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter Madeleine from their holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.
Detectives in Portugal also reportedly want to question members of the so-called Tapas Seven - friends of Kate and Gerry who were dining with them on May 3 shortly before Madeleine vanished.
But any request would have to go through Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, police sources in the UK said.
The source said: “All I can tell you is the procedure by which Leicestershire Police and the McCanns would have to go through.
“A request would have to be sent to the Home Office in writing and would have to be approved by the Home Secretary.”
A spokeswoman for the Home Office said: “If the Portuguese police were to require to travel to the UK then they would need to apply for mutual legal assistance from the Home Office.”
She added that the Home Office never confirmed or denied whether requests for mutual legal assistance were made.
Kate and Gerry McCann, both 39, from Rothley, Leics, are away staying with relatives this weekend. But family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the McCanns, and their friends, would co-operate fully with officers.
He said: “We have not yet been notified of any intention by police to re-interview Gerry or Kate or to re-interview their friends. However, if the police feel it is necessary, all of them are more than happy to co-operate with police. None of them have anything to hide whatsoever.
Hi Mike
Thanks for the posts. The McCann case just highlights how greedy some people are (the Press), how manipulative some people are (PJ ‘leakers’) and how gullible some people are. Just too bad that Madeleine doesn’t come into the equation with any of them.
December 1st, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Found this article
by Paul VALLELY
I DO NOT have a view on what happened to Madeleine McCann. And I don’t want one. Views have done enough damage already — and not just to the family, but to the rest of us. A crime does not affect just the victim. It affects us all, because it tears at the social fabric. It does violence to the common good. That is why judgement and punishment are meted out by society, and not, vigilante-style, by the victim’s family. It is part of a complex interaction between the individual and the wider group.
The McCann case illustrates that. It has been a cruel whirligig of wild emoting and lurid speculation. It began with a huge outpouring of sympathy after the disappearance of a child. The media leant into this, inviting the public to empathise in a “there, but for the grace of God” fashion. Soon this collective compassion had been pumped up to a Diana-like mass wave of emotion, which substituted an unthinking sentimentality for the balance we display in our dealings with children and adults in our daily lives.
After a few diversions in class (would the parents have been treated differently, had they been a couple of underclass inadequates from Wythenshawe?) and chauvinism (are the Portuguese police just a bunch of incompetent Clouseaus?), the tide turned dramatically.
The media began to report suspicions that the parents were to blame. All this was based on unsubstantiated, and often denied, leaks from the police, in a farrago of half-truths about sniffer dogs and DNA. It reached its nadir with a story about the dumping of the child’s body at sea from a yacht, “probably a British one”. It’s amazing what you can tell from DNA.
Next, we are told, the police are to quiz the local priest. It will be interesting to see if the anti-religious undertow of the coverage to date now surfaces. The McCanns are not just Roman Catholics but “devout Catholics”. (The media cannot do religion without adjectives.) And there has been “the smell of death” on their Bible. Aha! Or the tide may turn again, as it did at the start of this week, with the very same papers that ran anti-McCann splashes now running pro-ones.
It is pointless to try to evaluate any of this outpouring, based as it is on sources that are anonymous — a fact that should always raise suspicion. When you see a question mark in a headline, the answer to the question is almost always no. If it was yes, the editor would remove the question mark. But what we should question is the motives of newspapers such as The Sunday Times, which paid for an opinion poll on whether the public thought the McCanns were innocent. What is served by this kind of journalism? Only newspaper sales.
The damage it does is clear. Large sections of the population, who initially made a huge emotional investment in the story, have found the rug pulled from under their feet. They are now confused, and some are angry — so much so that a Radio 5 phone-in on the McCanns had to be abandoned after a flood of critical calls. And the Leicester Mercury had to withdraw a website opinion page that was bombarded with “nasty, spiteful and defamatory” comments. Hearts have been hardened.
We are all the poorer. The tragedy of a lost child would be bad enough. But something wider has been lost, too. The McCann story, and the media’s coverage of it, have delivered another blow to the bonds of trust that are central to holding us together in our common life. And if you think we are dealing with something abstract when we speak of trust, look at the panic over Northern Rock.
December 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Hi Annie/Alice
There has been too much speculation, downright dishonest reporting by the media in search of a story, and I suspect there’s a lot more to come.
Some questions:
Are the Portuguese police incompetent? I have no way of judging because I have no direct experience of them. Do the media or the general public know any better? I see no evidence of this.
Is the DNA evidence damning? I am not a DNA expert and I doubt many journalists or members of the public are either. Yet it seems we all crave to have a valid and authoritative opinion on this. There is talk of various percentages, but I wouldn’t trust a reporter to tell me that 88% (or whatever) means categorically that the sample could only have come from Madeleine. If the reporter is also a DNA expert, then perhaps we should listen. Otherwise we need to be very cautious.
Exactly what have the Portuguese police said? It seems like they say very, very little. That is their way and I think it has its merits. Yet, it seems like the police department leaks like a sieve. All we have is speculation, innuendo and pejorative remarks.
In this country at least (and I would presume in Portugal as well), the McCanns are innocent until PROVEN guilty. The correct way to ascertain their guilt or innocence is in a court of law. This trial by ill-informed media and ill-informed public opinion just will not do.
December 1st, 2007 at 11:40 am
Mike/Lyn-5240
I agree completely.
Swissmiss- if someone was planning an abduction of a child it wouldn’t be that hard to get some chloroform (I think that what it’s called) and I think Madeleine abduction was carefully planned. This stuff I believe is illegal in England, and one can’t just swan into a chemist and buy it, but to a criminal it would be easy to get. I dont think it has a very strong smell and the apartment has abreeze blowing through it so no smel would be detected.
As for slating the detective agency, well who should the McCann’s use? Don’t think for one minute they have gone into this blind-they would have checked them out , took advice and got them recommended. Don’t forget the McCann’s have to do things by the book as some ppl would have them hung!
As for Jane Tanners interview, this woman was on national television knowing full well every single ‘twitch’ of an eyebrow would be mis-interpretated (SP)!! It’s no wonder she was nervous.
As for cuddle cat being on the bed, shelf floor or whatever, maybe the McCann’s at the time didn’t think that Cuddle cat was going to be a vital piece of information-let’s face it the so called expert PJ didn’t seem to think so.
Shock can do funny things to people. When I was much younger I bought myself a lovely little flat, after a week of living there on my own someone broke in while I was asleep. I woke up to find this huge man staring at me, I jumped out of bed and just stared at him-I was petrified, he ran off back out the window. I was looking at that man face for what seemed like ages and I can’t for the life of me remember what he looked like, I just remember he was a huge frame but that’s all. So yes shock can make you forget.
Just because the McCann’s and the rest of their party did not react the same as ME – YOU or anyone else for that matter thinks they should have reacted does not make it wrong. After all in reality we don’t know how we would react would we?
The McCann’s need our support, if they go under then the search for Madeleine WILL stop!!! It’s her parents that is keeping her in the public eye. The fund also needs are support!!
There are people out there that their main aim in life to see the McCann’s go under and will say or do anything to make that happen. In truth they don’t give stuff about Madeleine or any other missing/abused children; they come onto forums such as this to stir up hate about the McCann’s and Madeleine takes a back seat! Don’t be fooled by these people!
The McCann’s know they did wrong and Madeleine is paying the intimate price, the McCann’s have to live with that for the rest of their lives and are trying desperately to find their daughter, please don’t join these minority and help put obstacles in the McCanns way. That won’t help to find Madeleine.
December 1st, 2007 at 9:56 am
Madeleine: Police to questions McCanns ‘over Exeter Connection that links Murat and their friends’
DAILY MAIL…Last updated at 09:28am on 1st December 2007
Kate and Gerry McCann’s hopes of being quickly cleared as suspects in their daughter’s disappearance appeared to suffer a setback yesterday.
It emerged that Portuguese police want to question them again.
Detectives are preparing to return to Britain next week to speak to the couple and other members of the “Tapas Nine” who dined together on the night Madeleine vanished.
Setback: Police want to re-interview Kate and Gerry McCann and their friends
One line of questioning could be a coincidence - dubbed the Exeter Connection - linking suspect Robert Murat, 34, a British expat living in the village where the little girl vanished, to two of the nine.
Murat stayed with his sister in Exeter in the spring, and returned to Portugal two days before Madeleine disappeared on May 3, The Sun reports today.
Two of the Tapas Nine, Russell O’Brien, 36, and Jane Tanner, 37, who says she saw a man carrying the child away, live less than a mile from Murat’s sister, Samantha.
Dr O’Brien and partner Jane are neighbours of James Gorrod, 34, and wife Charlotte, 32, who were also in Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. None of them are suspects.
“There are many pieces to the jigsaw, but they all seem to add up to Exeter - we want to know why,” a police source told The Sun.
The McCanns had hoped police would lift their status as official suspects after DNA tests failed to find any evidence to prove they were involved.
But Portuguese officers have told a public prosecutor they need to speak to the Britons again.
Sources told the Portuguese news channel SIC that a team of detectives and the prosecutor would fly to Britain next week for the interviews.
They will deliver letters of appeal to British police, asking them to interrogate the Britons again with Portuguese officers present.
The letters are legal documents required for interviews to be carried out on British soil.
The McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said he could not confirm that they were to be interviewed again because the family’s legal team had not seen such an application.
But he added: “Kate and Gerry and their friends have consistently said they are more than happy to be reinterviewed if Portuguese police feel it is necessary.
“Indeed their friends are keen to be reinterviewed, if that helps to clarify any inconsistencies the police feel may exist in their original statements, and if it leads to Kate and Gerry being eliminated from the inquiry.
“Their friends, like Kate and Gerry, have absolutely nothing to hide.”
There is a possibility that the interviews could simply be a formal step towards removing the couple’s status as suspects.
The McCanns, both 39, and their friends have always denied that they were involved in Madeleine’s disappearance, or that they agreed a “pact of silence”.
Four members of the Portuguese investigation team flew home from the UK yesterday after meeting British forensic experts to discuss DNA samples collected for the inquiry.
Both Leicestershire Police, the McCanns’ local force, and the Birmingham-based Forensic Science Service called the meeting “routine”.
Portuguese police also met their public prosecutor for more than three hours yesterday to discuss the DNA tests.
December 1st, 2007 at 9:26 am
It’s sad to see so many self-righteous people passing comment here - if only everyone was as perfect as these individuals. Kate and Gerry do not deny their grave mistake in leaving the children alone and let’s not forget they are paying the ultimate price. The debate on the McCanns parenting skills can go on forever but if everybody put as much energy into helping them find Madeleine as they do attacking them, Madeleine would surely stand a better chance?
And as I’ve mentioned before, yes there are other missing children, but as a parent Gerry and Kate will inevitably focus on their own child as a priority, that’s human nature. And again, anybody who isn’t a parent themselves could not possibly understand the bond between parent and child and are not qualified to comment. Final word - Like many things in life people do not know how they would react/cope in any given circumstance until they experience it, so lets save the smear campaign, at least until after Madeleine has been found safe and well!
December 1st, 2007 at 3:07 am
Hi Annie1:
What kind of conclusion have you personal come across in this case???- I was just wondering…. - I truly don’t think that any of us can truly think of a conclusion right now…. we don’t know if any of this is true or not. Most of this stuff is written I believe in like we call it .. the Tabloids newspaper = gossip newspaper and trying to ruin celebrities lives…. well.. I guess we can call the Mcs some sort of celebrities…… Since you watch the Panorama program.. I assume it was the same one that was broadcast in the US…. on 48hrs Mystery with that guy (forgot his name) who went to PDL for 10 days to recap the events of that horrible night. - They showed Tanner and Kate’s mom (I think it was her mom).
Hi all:
I have a question. If the intruder was Michaela….. the way the intruder carried the child out (if it happend like that) the child would have been either sleeping deeply or dead. Could there have been a slight possibility that the intruder had some kind of gas mask to cover her for the time it was needed to get her out without her noticing ? -Where would they get the gas from. I don’t think just anyone could get gas right?? - It has to have come from a Doctor right?? I was just wondering about that today……
December 1st, 2007 at 1:50 am
It is probably hard for McCann supporters - such as Isla - to understand how adament ones like me are to arrive at a conclusion - not for the sake of the McCann family but for the sake of Madeleine. The extended family of the McC’s seem like a caring lot of folk and surely they must be questioning the events surrounding 3May.- there have been so many inconsistancies. In my opinion, the absolute critical bit of evidence for the PJ to study was that interview with Tanner on Panorama - such a transparent lady - she really does want to tell all - in my opinion.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:44 am
I agree Jean, but looking back, the McCanns have - in many ways hindered the case. If you look back on the Gerry blogs - even they are not consistant throughout - In my opinion it would be worth absolutely wiping the slate clean and starting from scratch. Everyone of the 9 Tapas diners should make statements based on what they saw and heard - and above all for the sake of everyone concerned - be absolutely truthful. Not just media reports, but actual recorded interviews with GM KM and the Panorama Tanner have just not come over as being truthful. That is just my opinion, but judging by the number of people who have made similar observations, even ardent supporters of the McCanns seem to be dwindling
December 1st, 2007 at 1:25 am
Annie1
I’m sure Kate McCann has said she will take a lie detector test. Although I have also read recently that she wouldn’t. Just goes to show that you can’t believe all that the papers print. They seem to be contradicting themselves all the time. It would be a good idea for them both to have this test, so as to prove once and for all their innocence. (Although I have also read that having a test isn’t completely conclusive). Perhaps their lawyers have advised against it for some reason?? I really don’t know what to believe any more, I just want Madeleine found. It is so bl…y frustrating.
December 1st, 2007 at 1:12 am
Hi Swissmiss - It was a report from Tanner which I read that stated that cuddle cat was on the bed with the blanket . In the report by Kate I definately read that she knew immediately that there was something wrong in the appartment when cuddle cat was on a shelf …….who do we believe - Tanner or KM
December 1st, 2007 at 1:05 am
Jean - you are absolutely right . According to the Gerry blog - this lot are costing £50,000 a month!! and if - as reports state - they have been on the case since September that is getting on for £150,000 of the Madeleine fund just chucked at these Spannish P.I./s In my opinion, the money could have been better spent with better results, Lets face it - all they seem to have come up with is a wild goose chase around Morocco.. I think that to refuse lie detector tests was the nail in the McCanns coffin - anyone who has nothing to hide would agree to a lie test. I wonder why they did not want to clear themselves by doing this. surely anyone as sure of their innocence as the McCanns wouldnt turn a hair at such a procedure
November 30th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
ps : oops.. meant to say Tanner seemed to want to say something…
November 30th, 2007 at 11:54 pm
Hi all:
Gee… glad to see the board is running again……!- -
Hi Maggie:
It’s really strange abou that dude in PDL . Isn’t he living close to the beach near where there are always children??????? -
Hi Annie1:
I thought that Cuddles was left on the window seal??? -
Oh no.. not at all……. sorry if I came out to say it the wrong way again… :)- - but the MCs sure are putting a lot of emphasis that they are 100% true faithful Catholics…… - I am myself one , but God forbid if I were in their shoes.. would I have a chance to go meet directly with the Pope?? I don’t think so…….. - True… about the Priests/ Clergy … that’s why honnestly I backed away a little from the Church for awhile.. because our Monsignor of our Church, whom I really looked up to… had to step down himself because one lady came forth after 30 yrs to accuse him of having molested her !!!! - I was and still am in total shock!!!!!!!
Tanner, did seem to what to say something and held it back didn’t she?? And was a little shaky at that! Ok… I really don’t want to come to a conclusion.. but this is just another theory…..
1) If Michaela was banned from the JW Church… she wouldn’t have been welcomed very much at their meetings, right??? -
2) I think that her being a JW is an excuse to be able to enter peoples homes and look around to see what kind/type of children are there either for adoption or ….. -
Also, why is Murat so all of a sudden nervous and is having his lawyer after the MCs??? He was like that when Maddie vanished. His name was mentioned in the Shrimpton doc as well. -
Hi Jean:
Wow ! That was very nice of you to do… you gave me an idea to send them a card as well!!!!!!!! Thx!!!! - - Did you put a postal code for Leicester?? -
Hi Isla:
I sure missed seeing your posts when the board was down!! :)-
By the way.. there is this on going search in the US for this former cops wife…. who went missing and is pg… and they just said in the papers that residents in their neighborhood are fearing that the cops there are trying to cover up for the husband!!!!! — (Whose ex-wife was murdered.!!!) - Hope that this is not the case in Maddie’s case…….-
November 30th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Hi All
I know I may now seem like a Job’s comforter, but I don’t really know whether these private investigators are doing much good. They seem to be rushing all over the place and not getting any concrete results, unless of course this is all a smoke screen and they are on to more than we are being told. Again, I know that we shouldn’t believe everything the press publish, but it may be true that they are only ‘expert’ in corporate matters, and it has been a lot of hype regarding them finding so many missing people. I really do think the money would be better spent if they were to find a covert team of ex-SAS men, who could go to places under cover instead of Metodo 3 who seem to broadcast everything they seem to be doing.
Let’s hope that this meeting with the Portuguese now stop the hounding of Kate and Gerry McCann, so that they can START looking for Madeleine. I really do think the British Government should start kicking a few b..s, but I suppose Gordon Brown has his mind on other pressing things now, hasn’t he!!!!
November 30th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
Hi all
Good to see the site up and running again.
Swissmiss-5219
I don’t know if this guy is involved or not, but he does live near the PDL. I got this info off the ‘Sarah’s law’ website. He is a evil man who abused his children and should be in prison!
Jean-5225
Thanks for that – I’m sure the house name is on one of the video on yourtube-i will have a look through them all.
November 30th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Hi all
Up and running again!
There’s not a great deal of news around other than the usual articles containing unsubstantiated ‘data’. It’s a shame that so many people believe everything they read. The Press (spin) and gullible readers have a lot to answer for in relation to the hounding of the McCanns and extending Madeleine’s hellish plight. Scarey and so, so sad.