Madeleine McCann Not In Malta Or Morocco
FROM Paulo Reis in Portugal:
Portuguese CID spokesman, about Madeleine abduction: “The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz”
Portuguese authorities have dismissed as groundless all leads on sightings of Madeleine McCann in other countries rather than Portugal, namely in Morroco and Malta, said Polícia Judiciária (PJ), Portuguese CID, spokesman Olegário de Sousa (…) Further investigations are being carried out centered mainly on the area of Praia da Luz itself, said Mr. Olegário de Sousa. «The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz», according to other police source quoted by Diário de Notícias. (…)
Note: Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.
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December 5th, 2007 at 1:55 am
Hi all
No real evidence. DNA results don’t shed any light on the case at all. Inconclusive? What does that mean? They don’t know if it matches Madeleine’s DNA or they have no proof as to whether she is alive or not at? I wish they would just define ‘inconclusive’ as it seems to be a bit of an umbrella statement! Tell us is Madeleine alive or not. Or do you really not know?
The PJ made the McCanns suspects in the case but a ’source said’ to ‘24 Horas’ ”they might never be able to solve the case if the McCanns and their friends did not co-operate. If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied.” Oh right, blame the McCanns for PJ incompetency. The whole case is now down to one of the T9 pleading guilty or shopping someone else. Pathetic if that’s the case. What happened to ‘phone calls, sedatives, witnesses, GM’s computer etc etc.’
It leaves the PJ with (and saves their face) ‘we couldn’t find Madeleine because they wouldn’t correct inconsistencies in their statements and so on.’ A blight to hang over them for ever more and STILL a wee girl may be desperately needing someone to find her. This case has been shameful from beginning to end.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:25 am
Hi all
Well I wonder if that’s another round with the zombie flesh eaters over? They seem to keep on coming or is it the same 3/4 people just dropping in now and again to give us all a headache!
On a more serious note, when I am attacked personally I do consider my position and attitude and after a great deal of thought, again, I have come to the conclusion that I am entitled to voice my personal opinion and that is that I deem the McCanns to be totally innocent. This stance that I take (have taken) seems to really irritate a number of people for some reason or another. Yet for me, it is the only natural stance that I can take as I wait, impatiently, like most other people on this forum for some kind of concrete evidence to prove or disprove my (our) views. Along the way, or while I’m waiting, I post all new Press articles regardless as to whether they are for or against the McCanns/Murat, because imo we have to have access to all data regardless as to whether it’s true or not - for or against. It’s up to us to use our intelligence and sheer commonsense to discern what may be valid, credible, relevant or not.
Most anti-McCann people that post on this site are totally focussed (obsessed) on the neglect issue. I can understand that to a point, as we are all in agreement that the McCanns actions were totally irresponsible, but when the ‘neglect issue’ supercedes the ‘missing child’ issue I find it to be totally time wasting and more of a vendetta against the parents than a genuine interest in Madeleine’s plight. I also find it very strange that all sorts of ‘points’ are proferred as to why the McCanns are guilty, from people who don’t have access to very much information at all. I think if the McCanns were so obviously guilty they would have been charged long ago by people who have a great deal more knowledge of the case than we do. As they haven’t been charged, or more to the point been found guilty in a Court of Law, that leaves us with the civilised way of viewing and dealing with this case at the present time i.e. the McCanns are innocent.
A number of issues have been raised such as posting BL and MJ ‘psychic’ blogs and the effect that may have on the McCanns, if they read them. I can’t understand that type of comment coming from some individuals who have posted remarks, that I’m sure the McCanns would find extremely hurtful. BL and MJ at least believe that Madeleine is still alive, as do her parents, and if anything you would think that, believe it (them) or not, it would give the McCanns some hope, as it does some of us.
Posting personal comments seems to have been another bone of contention for some - very contrary in one case, but we have all been on here for months now and it’s been a roller coaster ride of emotions to say the least. We have all got to know each other fairly well and ‘dumping personal baggage’ if that’s what you want to call it humanises us, bonds us and when all is said and done most of it relates directly or indirectly to the McCann case (emotion/feeling).
Another statement that has been made suggests that we are a clique, who are not open to healthy debate. This is the issue that concerns me most of all because to some extent we are a clique. A clique of people who seem to believe that people should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Do we (I) suppress open debate? I don’t think I do. I REALLY have no gripe with individuals that consider the McCanns to be guilty. I welcome open debate as long as it concentrates on discussing the ‘facts’ that are available. To date I have not come across anyone who wants an open debate, outwith regular posters. The name of the game seems to be harping on about neglect (with no mention of the case on hand), attacking individuals personally or posting irrelevant, unsubstantiated, nasty material about the McCanns. There is no debate, for example, about ‘the towel in the barn could have been left by Murat as it is close to his uncle’s house’ countered by ‘one of the T9 could have left there between 7pm/8pm’. I would love for someone to come onto this forum and debate the issue at an intelligent level, but it doesn’t seem to have happened to date.
I (we) have also been accused of viewing this site as a G and K forum rather than a forum for Madeleine. I find this to be totally refutable. I make no bones about the fact that I find the McCanns situation to be heartrending. I might be a strange creature as I do have the capacity to love (and feel protective of) people that I don’t know personally and have stated that on this forum. I have also done my utmost to keep this wee girl’s profile as high as possible by posting on here, over many months. I felt that it was the ONLY thing I could do other than donate money to the fund. I have also highlighted the plight of other children regardless of status and so on. I done my utmost to shed light on the nature and behaviour of the paedophile which in my opinion is one of the most abhorrent issues in dire need of being addressed on this planet. From day one there has been practically no information re. Madeleine at all. No doubt because she is missing!! News articles have focussed on the parents, so what are we to do? Not discuss any article that relates to the parents? Trawl back through the posts on this forum and ‘cut’ out any that relates to the parents out and what would you be left with - zilch? This forum imo focuses more on Madeleine than most others where the name of the game is about ‘tearing the parents to shreds’ and examining and discecting (wrong spellling?) every solitary, minute detail about them and their lives over and over and over again. In fact most of these posters show no interest in Madeleine at all. Some anti-McCann posters have at least been totally honest when they post ‘Madeleine? Who’s that?
Kirstie has raised the point that she has considered and reconsidered the McCanns innocence or not, over time, which is the sign of someone who is constantly internalising and analysing information to make judgements based on the ‘evidence’ available at any given time. What she has stated, succinctly, no doubt applies to us all. We (I) just don’t feel the need to explain ourselves constantly to highlight that we are not a shower of mindless morons.
I’ve now spent an hour putting this together (badly - content - spelling - grammar) and I have made up my mind that I will not explain myself to ANYONE AGAIN. I simply don’t have the time (or inclination) to do so. I dearly hope that Madeleine will be found soon, but if not I will continue to ‘cut and paste’ articles and post data that I think may be interesting and relevant. If the regulars on this forum are (get) fed up with me I will go. If someone wants to get into a debate based on the ‘facts’ re. Madeleine being missing (not neglect) then I will GLADLY respond to them. Other than that I am going to totally ignore them.
December 5th, 2007 at 1:19 am
HI Maggie:
# 5342 - I don’t think you want me to answer to your last part of your post!! LOL -
Hey Jean:
I did also notice that , Jean about Kate….. - I’m wondering if she might be taking an anti depressant just to be able to look at the media people in interviews etc…… it’s got to be hard to talk to them who are pointing fingers at you…..and basically harrassing their lives……. every step they are taking!!! - That is what is getting all of these other celebrities in trouble from paperazzi (sp?) always on their heels …… they are the ones that have probably driven Lohan and B. Spears how low they have become!!!!!!!! And the minute they turn back to them they turn around and sue them. It’s almost the same as the Mcs….. we really don’t know what happened . NO ONE does….. other then the person or people who did it…….. -
December 4th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Me again, with a few more niggles. The more I think about things, the more confused I get. Why should Madeleine be taken from her bedroom, when the risk was so great that someone may have gone to check on them at any time. I know that the McCanns and friends had adopted a routine, but the risk was still there, perhaps one of the other parents may have decided to do another check just in case. Why snatch Madeleine from the apartment, the children who have been abducted previously were taken from outside in the street when they were playing and not being supervised. Joana was spirited away when she went to do an errand. Ben Needham was playing in the front of the property. The little boy from the Canaries was taken whilst playing in the street. No one has been taken from an apartment.
Did you find out any more about that long report you posted Isla? That seemed very far fetched at the time, but so does the whole situation. The longer it goes on the stranger it seems. Why did the PJ look in that deserted barn, and all of a sudden find a towel with blood on it? What is all this cloak and dagger stuff about Exeter and the friends and Robert Murat. Surely after seven months these questions should have been answered. The police knew right from the start that two of the friends lived in Exeter, and Robert Murat had visited there round about the time Madeleine was abducted. Why did they make Murat an arguido in the first place, I’m sure it wasn’t only because that reporter expressed some concern. They must either have something on him, or they are using the secrecy laws to keep him from talking, especially keeping him as an arguido still. What happened to Madeleine’s DNA reportedly found in his mother’s house, or was that just a lie to sell the papers. There are so many things that don’t add up, I just hope and pray that this beautiful little girl is still alive and will be found soon. That is my sole concern.
December 4th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
I know you may all shoot me down in flames, but something has been nagging at me ever since the Panorma programme and I can’t seem to get it out of my brain.
When Kate was hanging out the washing, and on other occasions when interviewed, she seemed to be very light hearted, as though she was still on holiday and enjoying herself. If my child had been abducted a few days previous I would have been hysterical, not able to contain my grief, and very very weepy. But, she seemed to be very composed, and at ease with the situation.
I still don’t think they had anything to do with Madeleine’s disappearance, but Kate’s behaviour just struck me as odd. Perhaps she does know more than she is letting on, that was why she hadn’t collapsed in a heap. I really don’t know what to think any more. The media are still reporting that the Portuguese police still suspect the McCanns of murdering their daughter, hiding her body and going out for a meal. I really do think this senario is ridiculous, but I would like to hear other peoples views on my thoughts. Did any of you think Kate was far too relaxed, or was I imagining it?
Anthony - I think your spelling is A-OK. We can read and understand it can’t we? What more do you want? And your posts make us smile and give a bit of light relief from the search for Madeleine. Long may they continue.
Headache - You are just that!!
December 4th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
What kind of world do we live in where we have to tell our children they cant be in the same room alone with an adult!
http://www.anorak.co.uk/twitterings/178161.html
December 4th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Hi all
It’s strange that the PJ are always saying that they won’t be able to crack this case if the McCann’s don’t co-operate. They can’t crack the case due to their own stupidly and how aren’t the McCann’s co-operating? Talk about grasping at straws.
Swissmiss-5341-Me too.
Oh and I wouldn’t take that message from Brazil as gospel, he never accused you of being brain washed’ or ‘lead astray just to fit in here’ but the delightful MOLLY did!
I see we have another headache on here!
December 4th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Hi MIke:
# 5337 -
I think it is the same person!! -
December 4th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Hi Anthony:
LOL - All I can say Anthony is LOL - You crack me up!!!!! LOL-
December 4th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Madeleine police have only 17 cells of DNA as they admit: ‘It’s mission impossible’
By VANESSA ALLEN - More by this author »
Last updated at 11:19am on 4th December 2007
Portuguese experts have admitted that they face an “impossible mission” to solve Madeleine McCann’s disappearance through DNA tests because the forensic evidence is so poor.
They said tests at the Forensic Science Service in the UK were “unlikely” ever to get conclusive results because the samples were too small, containing fewer than 17 microscopic human cells.
The samples, which could have been left by Madeleine’s finger brushing against a surface, are also badly degraded and contaminated.
Under suspicion: Kate and Gerry McCann insist they have nothing to do with their daughter’s disappearance
A source told the Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection.”
But British scientists said the FSS laboratory in Birmingham could still crack the case.
Expert Dr Ronald Denny said: “It’s not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells they can carry it off.
“It is a minute sample - something which 20 years ago, or even ten years ago, could not have been worked on.”
Portuguese detectives had hoped samples from Kate and Gerry McCann’s holiday apartment and hire car would prove their theory that Madeleine died accidentally in the apartment and that her body was transported in the hired Renault Scenic.
Portuguese detectives met experts from the FSS last week.
Four months of testing hair, blood and skin cells have so far proved inconclusive but the laboratory is a world pioneer in low copy number analysis - a technique used to produce DNA profiles from microscopic samples.
The technique is so effective it can get a DNA profile from a single cell, taken from a fingerprint, a bloodstain or tiny trace of liquid.
It allows scientists to “grow” extra genetic material from a tiny sample until it is suitable for repeated testing, but it takes several weeks to produce a definitive result.
The technique helped British police investigating the “Trophy Rapist” attacks around the M25 to identify Antoni Imiela as their prime suspect.
Dr Denny, an independent forensics expert based in Kent, said: “A cell is negligible - a smidgen - you can just about see it under a microscope.
“It’s the sort of sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger.
“But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed.
“A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off.”
The McCanns, both 39, have insisted that Madeleine’s DNA could have been in the Renault Scenic - hired 25 days after she went missing - because they used the car to transport her toys and clothes.
They have always denied any involvement in her disappearance.
Samples were also taken from the home of the other named suspect in the case, Robert Murat.
Mr Murat, 34, has always denied he was responsible for Madeleine’s disappearance from her bedroom in the family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3.
Yesterday marked seven months since Madeleine vanished.
Detectives are preparing to fly to Britain to interview her parents and their friends again.
A police source told 24 Horas they might never be able to solve the case if the McCanns and their friends did not co-operate.
“If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied.
“This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child.”
The McCanns’ spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the couple a n d their friends - the so-called Tapas Nine - were happy to be re-interviewed in Britain if it would help the investigation.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
to headache,IN MY OPINION TRY THE ABC BOOKS OR LADYBIRD BOOKS THEY HELP PEOPLE LIKE YOU A LOT.ha ha
December 4th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Hi Headache 1
Go on tell me this is a joke.
Of late we have had a poison dwarf, Cruella de Vil , and now you come on playing the village idiot.!!!
Lauren said: ” You have no idea what it is to have an unbiased opinion.” again this must be a wind up, when have you ever read anything from an Anti-McCann that wasn’t biased.!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
to isla,
,a small point,i posted months ago that whoever took madeline would have died their hair from black to blonde probably,when the first pictures of murats girlfriend came out i thought she was blonde and she wore sunglasses that hid her eyebrows,if you look at her now she has a head of dark hair and the die growing out is about 6 months old,she must have died it around the time madeline went missing as she has no roots in the picture,strange that,,
point two there is no record of sergi malinka or murats girlfriend or her husband looking for madeline,they did not join in the search even though murat says he was there the next day so they did know she was gone,no one can say that they seen them looking or helping at all,why because they knew where she was and who took her,,strange that,there is also no record of david moralles payne looking either,
those four people who are suspects are because of their behaviour and their lies that they have told,,
the mccanns have dared anyone to look for madeline but any of the private investagators have all come out on their side,mondonto 3 do not suspect them at all so who am i to argue with the experts even though i do not trust them as they have found nothing to date,
i would rule out the towel and anything else that the pj find as the chances is it is a plant,it would not be the first time,
to lauren,
if the mccanns killed madeline mccann then let them hang for it,i do not think that they did it as the evidence points in a different direction than them so i have no interest in them but i can understand your anger at all concerened,if you look at the past posts of the people you slag off you here you will see that we all felt like that at one stage but this far down the road everything points at an intruder entering and leaving with a child,and a suspect for this is murats girlfriend and her fresh bottle of hair dye dated 4th or 5th of may,oh and robert murat who says he was not at the apartment that night is now found out to be lieing,he was maybe checking on his girlfriends handy work,,,
to headache 1 take two cyanide pills and lie down and see me in the morning,i hear that drinking weedkiller does the trick as well please feel free as it cures all know headaches,,
us air heads are great we have loads of cures for people like you.also i will type slow for you to read in future so you can keep up and i will use BIG LETTERS as well,
December 4th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Lauren-5309
That post was way out of order!
When you posted your ‘baggage’ as you call it you got nothing but support-even from the very same people you have constantly attacked.
Yet with regards to Isla’s ‘baggage’ you have to get the claws out.
I thought Alice was the worst vermin on here but you just topped her!
As far as Brazil is concerned, he was always opening minded, polite and pleasant in his debate, unlike you who has been nothing but nasty and unpleasant from day one!
I think you and alice, annie,molly, say say and all the other nasties are the one and same person. You certainly have a hate for the McCann’s and anyone that support them (especially Isla) and I’m beginning to wonder why! Is it because you’re scared the truth may come out on this forum? Like you could be Murat, murats mother/sister /girlfriend or maybe your one of the perverts that took Madeleine in the first place! For someone that claims they are a mother and a person that cares for children you never ever make reference to growing problem of paedophiles/rings or paedophilia yet they are the BIGGEST threat to our children ???
I wish you and the likes of you would take your own advice and go spew your vermin on your own forum. Your posts are also full of contradictions.
The only bullies on here are you and the likes of you and you stared all this c***, if you don’t believe then go back and read your own post!!! But then you only see what you want to see-your sort always do!
December 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
hello admin why havae you removed a perfectly feasible comment pls tell?
December 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
anthony I sent a post but it did not come up -IN MY OPINION
December 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
oh sorry , in my opinion
December 4th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
to anthony, whoever you are! I’ve got doubts about you me friend, you cannot spell, I think you just must be an air-head and if nobody else on here thinks the same then you all must be air-heads too
December 4th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Annie1/Lauren:
Coming back to the main topic of this Forum: MADDIE. Just one question …. - I would like to know what your idea/thoughts are on what happened to Maddie that dreadful night…. - so just maybe it would shed a light … if I might have been wrong to change my mind from what after I read in the papers……
December 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Hi everyone:
Hi Lauren:
Thanks for passing the msge on to Brasil. Yes, I know he’s already told me that in the past. But I haven’t changed my mind like you say to fit on the board…. I have my own mind thank you! - I don’t need to have someone brainwash me to tell me what I should say/ think etc… one can change their minds….. I read the on line papers / Isla’s/ MIke’s posts etc…. - When you write ” that its ok to shoot anyone down whos opinion differs to the majority on here” .
I think that’s exactly what you are doing…
Hi Annie1:
What do you mean about the psychics? - I never really did understand them…… - I don’t really go on their websites…
December 4th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Swissmiss - I have no evidence of Madeleine being with a family - nobody seems to know where she is and the ones who do are saying nothing. I HOPE, like everyone else that she is with a family somewhere being cared for - the best anyone can hope for - right?
Yes I am leaving this forum - It is just vaguely strange - especially the tunnel vision views, and the agression shown when anyone makes a suggestion that maybe, just maybe the McCanns are hiding the truth. it is certainly a possibility, along with the abduction theory. I find it very disturbing that contacts with psychics are being made public on here - in my opinion that is a very, very cruel thing to do - especially as absolutely nothing concrete has or will come of anything said from this source. SO, bye everyone, from this moment on I will not hinder myself to read any comments posted here - I hope Madeleine is alive - but only time and truth will tell
December 4th, 2007 at 9:39 am
Morning All,
Well it’s getting lively again!
I myself have looked at this entire case from different angles, and there are times when i feel that things do not look good re The McCs and their friends and there are times when i think NO WAY!! how could they possibly go for dinner, laugh and joke like nothing had happened then proceed to whip up a media frenzy enlisting millions of supporters worldwide, opening a fund, giving interviews, travelling Europe to highlight the plight of Madeleine…meeting the Pope??? I battle with these ideas constantly because it is too abhorrant to even contemplate the level of deception but worse still the murder and cover up of their own child…but then there is what we read….i know it is sometimes only best used as fish and chip paper but sometimes i feel very uneasy about things. I ahve no idea if the McCs or any of their friends know RM, but there is a niggle there with me that will not go away….they might and apparently it can be proved?? (barn report) when reading that report i had the most horrible feeling- not least because it could mean that Maddie is dead or injured but because it would implicate anyone who had access to that renult scenic. I ahve trouble with the idea blood stained towels or other things from the back of the scenic would be left strewn around the place when there has been huge efforts to keep what happened to her under wraps by WHOEVER took her. So you see with me it’s a bit of a battle…it twists and turns in my own mind and i can sway from one idea to the other but i have to say i have been more sure that the McCs hadn’t harmed her than any other theory…it’s just too awful to think.
There is much we don’t know and i truly believe this is a very complex case, i only hope to God she is safe and with a loving family, but….
Annie, i hope you and yours have a merry Christmas too….save a thought for Maddie on the 25th…and where she should be. It has been ‘lively’ with you around and although i have not always agreed with the way you say things or what you say, i do have to agree in that what they did, all of them on that holiday was shocking. Those children were sitting ducks, but you know the more i say that i think,,,Well is that a little too convienient for them??? You see where i’m coming from- i swing back and forth….it is driving me a bit crazy to be honest.
Lauren,
Yes, maybe initially Brasil was the lone voice but you know what it didn’t end up that way. I feel quite insulted by you saying that. I thought he got on very well with everyone here and i think his posts were warmly recieved and valued. If he was feeling jaded by the posters then he didn’t say so and just left…i’m sorry if that is how he felt. Truly.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:02 am
Jean, i come on forums such as this, because i am interested to learn the truth, hopefully, to what has happened to Maddie. I am open to read about any ones opinion, or theories regarding Madeleine’s case. I dont like the consensus on here, that its ok to shoot anyone down whos opinion differs to the majority on here. And to be fair, you are only a majority on here, no where else. Not on any other forum, or in fact the “real” world so to speak.
I dont agree with other forums that make hurtful remarks about the McCanns, just to shock. Their opinions are totally biased too, mainly with a hatred that has been whipped up by the media against the Mcs.
I dont agree with the opinion that the Mcs left their children but we now must move away from this. Why? People would still be concerned about Madeleine and want her to be found, regardless of what her parents have done or didnt do. Madeleine is after all, the innocent party in this. Someone on here said, her parents have to live with this. They have to live with a decision they made to leave their children - who else should be living with that? What they did, was disgusting. Had no regard for their children’s safety on any level. And what is Madeleine having to live with? Because of the selfish mentality of her parents. Would people feel the same, if someone had gone to bed, smoking, fell asleep and burnt the house down and killed their child but they survived? Because i am afraid i would see that as a totally selfish act too. Im so tired of living in a society where people just want to blame everyone else for their actions all the time. Its not the Mcs fault for leaving the children, alone in an unlocked apartment, its the person who was watching, who had the opportunity to take Madeleine, because of the lax attitude of her parents. We dont live in a world without crime and scum such as paedophiles, so its the parents responsibility to do all they can to protect their children. And leaving them night after night, alone, in an unlocked apartment, is hardly doing that by any stretch of the imagination.
Regards Brasil, he was a voice alone on this forum. If you read back on the posts when he was on here, you can see that. And again he was one of the people being shot down, because he didnt go along with everything said on here. We are a world of different people with differing opinions. Why is it only on here, this cannot be accepted?
SwissMiss, passed on your regards to Brasil. He said that you should be true to what you really feel happened to Madeleine, the things that you told him when you spoke to him on Yahoo, and not be allow yourself to be led. Because you feel you have to fit in on here.
December 4th, 2007 at 2:11 am
Hi Jean /Isla/ Mike and all:
What ever happened with the PJ in the Uk.are they still there?-
December 4th, 2007 at 2:10 am
Hi everyone:
oh boy.. what’s going here again?? -
It was very peaceful for a long time……..-
Hi Lauren:
I didn’t know that you know Brasil? Please tell him hi from me… I’ll try to send him an email again soon.
Hi Annie1:
Happy Holidays to you too……- what makes you think she’s happy with another family?? I’m just curious the phrases you write down.. doe they have a real meaning thru the lines?????- I was just wondering…what makes you think she is with a family? Was she put up for adoption? Are you leaving the board? - Are you coming back?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:24 am
Bye everyone - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all
I am now going off to plan the festivities with my family and arrange my next long holiday.
Life goes on and too much time has already been spent on here.
I am sure that the police will get to the bottom of all this - Maybe Madeleine is happy with a family somewhere - we would all like to think so - but please you McCann lot - get back out there to Portugal and give it your best
December 4th, 2007 at 1:17 am
You know something - Isla, Mike, Jean - I would probably buy you a pint if I met you in a bar - I have absolutely no wish to get into the ins and outs of how you and I feel about the McCanns - I have my opinion you have yours. I would not have left my childen, so that obviously makes me err on the side of not supporting the McCanns. I have an urge to shake them - try to bring some sense into their arrogant little minds. You, on the other hand, do not see them in the same light and through the same eyes as I do - I suppose that is why we all maybe have a different favourite colour - we all see things differently. I do not particularly look for the bad in anyone, but from the very first day of this situation I really did want to slap that couple for their absolute detatchment from the resposibilities of children. From then on, nothing would make me see any good in them and whatever the outcome, the McCanns will never ever provoke kind thoughts from me. I hope that Madeleine is eventually found well and alive, but she will have been put through hell and back during the past 7 months - by her parents who couldnt be bothered to be a family on a family holiday
December 4th, 2007 at 1:02 am
I thought that you consider the McCanns to have no secrets to give away? What secrets do you think that the McCanns have held back? Their friends and family have talked, and so has Clarence - do they have secrets, do you think? The police have not revealed, in my opinion, secrets. If they have done so, then they have not been significant facts, have they? I have been away, as you know, for several weeks and I really did think that by the time I got home there would have been some movement in the case one way or another - and I really would have thought that if the McCanns were confident with regard to their position, as is stated on an almost daily basis by Clarence, then in all of the weeks since September, if I had been in the McCanns position, being so sure that any accusations were able to be proved false, I would have been back in Portugal seeing for myself what was happening in the investigation. I think I a correct in stating that there is no reason whatsoever why they could not return to Portugal? It has not been so very long ago that they said they wouldnt leave there without Madeleine - but one hint of the police turning stones and they hot foot back home
December 4th, 2007 at 1:02 am
Strangely enough Annie I agree with what you have said. It does frighten me that the McCanns may be involved in the disappearance of Madeleine, because in my mind watching them over these long months I have formed the opinion that they could not possibly have harmed such a beautiful child as Madeleine, but of course anything is possible. If the truth be known I, like so many other people in the world, just want Madeleine found alive because after such a long time I could not bear to find that she was dead. Which I think is the consensus of opinion on this site. That is why we are all so much on the defensive when anyone questions the innocence of the McCanns. I will still stick to my belief that she is alive and will be found until there is conclusive evidence that she is not, which means them finding her body.
December 4th, 2007 at 12:49 am
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December 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 am
Isla - the reason the results of the dna have not been released is because it has been give to the PJ and they keep all of their information with regard to investigations secret - simple really, they have evidence which they are not at liberty to reveal until they either do or dont press charges. If no charge is brought against the McCanns, then the dna results will probably be buried. If a charge is brought then the dna results will be used as part of the evidence, and as the PJ - by thier law - do not reveal to the press or anyone else for that matter, any evidence with regard to a criminal case, then that is why the media or the public have not been party to the results of the dna evidence
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Oh my God Annie, have you not been reading all of the newspapers since 3 May. What secrecy laws are you talking about - you mean the one sided ones that permit the Portuguese police to give their secrets away, but ban the McCanns and friends from doing the same!!!!!