Madeleine McCann Not In Malta Or Morocco
FROM Paulo Reis in Portugal:
Portuguese CID spokesman, about Madeleine abduction: “The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz”
Portuguese authorities have dismissed as groundless all leads on sightings of Madeleine McCann in other countries rather than Portugal, namely in Morroco and Malta, said Polícia Judiciária (PJ), Portuguese CID, spokesman Olegário de Sousa (…) Further investigations are being carried out centered mainly on the area of Praia da Luz itself, said Mr. Olegário de Sousa. «The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz», according to other police source quoted by Diário de Notícias. (…)
Note: Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.
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January 10th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Hi everyone:
I think after Lauren’s post that was her last insult to me. I will not be talked to in that fashion by anyone! As of today I will not be posting on this site anymore.
Good luck to everyone and hope and pray Maddie’s safe return.
Take care you all.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Ok Lauren, i don’t think there is any need for such sarcasm. Your latest post being the most blatant. Tolerance, isn’t that what you’re telling everyone here- who will listen. Tolerance for ALL with the arguido status! How about some for your fellow posters, WHATEVER their view.
Just for the record, yes i do agree that innocent untill proven guilty for all 3 suspects but there are many people here who have found the alleged lies and his (RM’s) supposed presence a little creepy, and i include myself in that. So some people are going to form their own ideas and conclusions and sides will be taken. That is the person or posters own choice, and i do not think it reasonable for anyone to use sarcasm because of that, or to make snide comments about someones cognititve ability to read your post- to ridicule someone is, in my opinion, someone with not much self esteem themselves.
How about we call an end to the back biting, please?
I read the snippets from Vanity Fair and to be honest, cannot comprehend Gerry saying he didn’t think what they did was irresponsible re leaving the kids alone at night. What a stupid thing to say because that’s exactly what it was, especially in the face of all the ‘negative’ press they’ve had! I am becoming more and more exasperated with all of this case.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Lauren..
we don’t have to always agree with each others posts , Lauren… you and I are both here to try and help bring Maddie back. It is like the media. They only talk about bringing the mcs down without caring about Maddie. Maddie is the one who needs all of this to end. For her sake lets move on….
January 10th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
you need to get off your fence . I’ve always tried to be nice towards to your posts not sure why you always have an attitude with my posts… and everything I say is wrong but what you say is right?
January 10th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
you don’t have to get an attitude with me Lauren..
January 10th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
SwissMiss, you want to know what i think, then take the time to read what i post. I have said all along, all 3 of them are innocent until proven guilty. If i could, i would type real slow so you can understand what i am saying. You cannot have a rule innocent until proven guilty, that only seems to apply to the McCanns! Do you understand? Am i speaking plainly enough for you?
I do believe all of them are innocent until proven otherwise. Its not me who has a closed mind.
Think before you post, I dont think its a language barrier here. You just dont read what is written, and you see only what you want to see.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
ps: No one is 100% until the “arguido “status is totally removed incl. the Mcs.
January 10th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Lauren:
This is the second time now you are mentioning his name.. do you have a reason to believe he is innocent? I haven’t seen myself yet anything to show… if there is something please do tell me. And you’re right.. Are they not all innocent until proven guilty? Incl. the Mcs… and Murat and anyone else in the Arguido title for that matter….
January 10th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Mike, can i ask, why you dont support Murat the way you openly support the McCanns? Are they not all innocent until proven guilty?
January 10th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Karen
Judge, jury and executioner while manipulating the “facts” as they see fit.
This seems to sum you up..
January 10th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Mike
It’s true that the McCanns haven’t been convicted of anything and are innocent until proven guilty (or proven innocent) but I think to imply that no one should suspect them just because they’re official suspects is a bit unrealistic.
Most of the stories in the British press are coming from Clarence Mitchell - so the McCanns could stop it if they really couldn’t stand it.
January 10th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Lauren:
I can return the question to you… is this the only case for you or do you have any others ?
January 10th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Hey Lauren:
Here we go again.. language barrier! lol-
Well.. to be honest.. this has been the first case that has got me so addicted!! There has also been a case of a little girl in Switzerland about 20 yrs ago who vanished and the body had never been found. The reason she went missing was she was 5 yrs old and the parents had let her take her bike and ride it from their house to her grandmother’s house and she has never been found. That case stuck in my head until this day! However… there hasn’t been too much media presence about it. And no suspects to this until that other Swiss girl vanished and got killed and they thought that the guy could have been linked to this other girl. So.. it is true because of the media frenzy around Maddie and this thread that I’ve gotten to be addicted to it. There is also the Natalie Holloway case in Aruba that I got addicted too.. but the media frenzy has slowed down there. And I haven’t found a thread like this one in any other cases. And……. to be honest… I like the posters on here including yourself Lauren despite you don’t agree with me often!!! lol
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Mods and Admin
In the even recent past there hasn’t been the internet which makes discussion opinion and debate so easy and available as it is now. Can you imagine what things would have been like when Diana died , and that was Western world anyway in a fiesta of angst.
Do you think some of it could be with tragedies like these that we can sympathise or accuse because these things are really our worst nightmare?
Not only that the news and updates encircle the globe in minutes, if that long, so there is always some new interest to grab us.
Remember too humanity is a very social group, and most like to gossip, and really isn’t the net a global village now?
January 10th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
to mike,,,we are all going around in circles.i feel that the pj knew months ago that they could not find her so have been running people around in circles to buy themself more time,this has not worked,24 houras seems to be able to print what they want without any editing by the pj,this has benifited the abductors a great deal i am sad to say,,,
it will all come out in the wash in the end please god.
January 10th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
read a report on the front page of the daily mail that priests are snubbing the mccanns,i also heard that mondonto 3 are being sacked as well,this is not news i have said all along that they would not find her,they may have found suspects that took her though,i would be interested to read their summary of the case,mondonto 3 cannot keep their mouths shut so their report should be leaked soon.
something has to give soon as the people who took her are dug in and well used to the propaganda being spouted by all concerened,its what their move will be and when they make it,
evidence in this case seems to inplacate everyone named,i think that you could find evidence against the mayor of playa del luz if you looked hard enough.
January 10th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
6045 SwissMiss, i wasnt asking if you are supporting any other suspects in this case, its very apparent from your posts you have a closed mind where that is concerned. I was asking if you were supporting suspects in other cases, or is it a matter of waiting for one with a high enough media profile for you to take an interest in it?
6044 Cant say i agree with your criticisms of Karen’s posts Jean. I think Karen talks a lot of sense and has a lot of valid points to make in her posts.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:56 am
This whole case is an absolute shambles. Of course, there is a likelihood that Madeleine was abducted by someone known to the family, but just as likely is the fact that a sick group of individuals also targeted Madeleine and kidnapped her. What seems ludicrous to me, is that her distraught parents are being subjected to a crazy trial by media, and forums, and because they are Arguido’s it doesn’t mean they are guilty of harming Madeleine.
There is no genuine basis to any of the stories we have read in this case. Indeed, the only sources mentioned are those “close to the McCann’s” who deny the allegations. It’s all speculation and innuendo.
I know that papers understand there is a ready audience for speculative rubbish about the McCann’s. I know how easy it is to concoct such rubbish. I know that editors are happy to defend their rubbish by asserting that they are exercising press freedom by probing a story in the public interest. But rubbish is rubbish.
They also know that their unattributed stories, which contradict each other day by day, are not throwing any genuine light on the mystery. They are nothing more than sales gimmicks aimed at pandering to the basest of human characteristics, a gloating, ghoulish, gossiping vulgarity devoid of basic human pity
The behaviour of (primarily) the papers is shameful and shows the arrogant belief that they can sit as judge, jury and executioner while manipulating the “facts” as they see fit. The more I read the more I yearn for control of the people responsible for this irresponsible, wilfully inaccurate and damaging approach to journalism.
The McCann’s most certainly are innocent until proven guilty and I believe they did not directly harm their child. But they did let that child down very badly. I have never wanted a drink/meal/ or to socialise that badly that I would have left my young children alone and I must admit, I just don’t get that.
However, I can’t help feeling that after 8 month’s we are all going round in circles.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Jean
You were telling Mods and Admin to get us into trouble… you’d be great in a witch hunt (just the right combination of accusations and piety).
Kat
I do have compassion for the McCanns to the extent that they lost their daughter - but I don’t think I need to be so kind to their media choices. There’s no reason for Gerry to be in Vanity Fair and no reason why I shouldn’t say I think it’s tasteless. Also, again he stated in the interview that it wasn’t irresponsible to leave the door unlocked and that the window was broken into. I don’t have much sympathy for avoiding responsibility and lying.
January 10th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Compassion…..a wonderful word that not many people are capable of showing, of course it goes without saying that Madeleine gets all our compassion…and rightly so.
Even though I maintain an open mind about the guilt or innocence of the McCann’s the reason I don’t insult them or call them names is because until evidence is shown I will show compassion…..because I couldn’t bear to think what life would be like if one of my children went missing.
A question that keeps cropping up is what the McCanns are accused of being guilty or innocent of ?
Well, the only true fact we know is they’re guilty of neglecting their children that goes without saying, Madeleine would be on her way to Reception class now and talking to her friends about what Father Christmas had brought her…… if only they had taken her to the Bar or either K&G had taken it turns to stay in the apartment
I believe many of us on here don’t show a true compassion for Murat which is slightly contradictory ! I’m guilty of it I know….
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Mods and Admin
The clue why you don’t ‘relate’ to Murat as such is because we tend to show our projected feelings towards parents, and in this case Murat is not the parent involved, perhaps projected feeling of ‘innocent bystander’ may come to the fore soon in his case?
January 10th, 2008 at 4:03 am
Lauren,
I try to keep an open mind, not always successful. Have been a little anxious at times for this case to be solved and Madeleine to be found safe, that I have felt that some seem guilty, though no right, especially with all the speculation and false reporting.
I don’t know what happened to poor Madeleine that fateful night but wish nothing more than for her to be found and returned home where she belongs. I don’t particularly care who or why at this moment, perhaps later these will be the burning questions, if she is ever found.
The only thing that matters is Madeleine to be found.
Whomever has her, hoping that she is still of this earth, can look into their heart and Madeleine’s eyes and find the compassion to do the right thing, not for anyone but Madeleine, the innocent in all this…and if she is not of this earth, give her peace for eternity and closure for her family.
As always, PRAYING FOR MADELEINE”S SAFE RETURN.
January 10th, 2008 at 2:57 am
oh forgot to ask…
Lauren… are you supporting any other suspect ? Just wondering.
January 10th, 2008 at 1:29 am
ps: sorry it’s getting late..lol - meant to say what should they do about the Mcs and the kids..?
January 10th, 2008 at 1:28 am
ps meant to say none of us know
January 10th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Hi Lauren……. - :)-
# 6035 - Nothing is really viable Lauren… in this case. None of know again if they are really guilty or really innocent.
And I’m not supporting any other suspect in the case. I just want them to get Maddie back. When she does come back hopefully what do you think they should do about the kids? Do you think they’ve suffered enough or do you think they need to be punished more? I was just wondering your thoughts on that… ? I also understand your point of view about that question…. - if this case ever does come to “an end” and they are suspects for ever… you can tell me “I told you so!”. I shall not get offended.. :)- I have a new resolution in 2008. Try and be positive and be a better open minded person !!! :)-
January 9th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
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Karen Says:
January 9th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Jean
Gawd, you’re at it again! Did no one ever tell you that telling tales was wrong?
It’s not libel to speculate or to dislike someone as a personal opinion - it’s libel to print something false as a fact - which this thread must have done and our thread didn’t - so there!
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Karen - I am not telling tales, I am stating a fact. I think that some of the posts on other sites are dispicable and are not necessary. They are childish, hurtful and stupid. There is absolutely no point to them and do not add anything to the subject of the abduction of Madeleine at all. In my interpretation there are a lot of items posted that are libelous. What a shame you and some of the other posters cannot give any sensible input!!
January 9th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Jeannie, nice to meet someone else on here with an open mind. And before i antagonise anyone as i have a tendency to do. I am not suggesting that i am the only other with an open mind. Surprisingly there are a few on this thread.
Lets hope this tragedy concludes very soon. Part of me feels that in reality, i dont think Madeleine will ever be found. But i truly hope that isnt the only reality for Madeleine. And that she will be found, and someone can help her come to terms with whatever has happened to her.
January 9th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Lauren,
Yes…all who have been affected by this hellish, never ending nightmare.
January 9th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Jeannie, same compassion then for Murat and his family as he also hasnt been proven guilty of anything as yet?
January 9th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Yes Lauren
Compassion for all…especially Madeleine.
January 9th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Jeannie, isnt Madeleine the one who deserves the compassion?