Madeleine McCann Not In Malta Or Morocco
FROM Paulo Reis in Portugal:
Portuguese CID spokesman, about Madeleine abduction: “The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz”
Portuguese authorities have dismissed as groundless all leads on sightings of Madeleine McCann in other countries rather than Portugal, namely in Morroco and Malta, said Polícia Judiciária (PJ), Portuguese CID, spokesman Olegário de Sousa (…) Further investigations are being carried out centered mainly on the area of Praia da Luz itself, said Mr. Olegário de Sousa. «The clue to this mistery is in Praia da Luz», according to other police source quoted by Diário de Notícias. (…)
Note: Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.
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January 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
January 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Kirstie
The simple ones are : )
(with no space between the : ) )
: (
For the rest all you do is write the following words with : before the first and last letters, with no space in between the letter and the :
shock
cool 
mad 
razz
wink 
oops 
cry
evil 
twisted 
roll
mrgreen 
And remember to leave at least 4 spaces before and after the smiley (emoticon).
January 11th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Kirstie, Mods and Admin, it is true that some times things can be misinterpreted very easily. Something that is said tongue in cheek, can be taken out of context. And as you say Mods, without eye contact and being able to see someones expression, it makes it all the more difficult. Maybe we should all invest in webcams, lol. Now that would be funny.
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Mods and Admin
Absolutely not! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
especially not first thing in the morning……………
January 11th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Mystery Man Questioned in Madeleine McCann’s Case
Investigators refused say how or why the man had been recognized in photos taken on different occasions near theMcCanns.
A mystery man who appeared in a photo of Madeleine McCann playing with her father and twin siblings has been questioned by police, MSNBC reports.
The same bald man was also seen walking behind former suspect Robert Murat, according to a report in The Sunday Tasmanian.
Portugese police confirmed the man had been identified and interviewed, and said they would continuing to formally interview anyone who had anything to do with the McCanns during their time in Portugal
This was reported in back in September….it’s the first that i have herd about it,if it’s true.
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Mods and Admin
The mans identity was confrmed as genuine and innocent of any involvement- an innocent bystander
January 11th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
OK Karen, (she says in a whisper so no-one else can hear) so show this auld bag how to do smiley things, pleeeease?? And before you say you can’t teach old dogs new tricks…….Lol!!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Kaaaaaareeeeeennnnnn!!!! Lol! so you’re the baby of the forum huh??
Lauren, Yes, sorry i should’ve said Swissmiss lives in the US. Yes her English is very good i agree but there’s something about text, you lose a lot of the meaning and there is obviously no tone so it can be unclear sometimes when someone ’says’ something online, sms etc. it can be misinterpreted.
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Mods and Admin
Its also very hard as there is no eye contact, you cannot see the person reacting, and in ‘life’ would stop when you see someone clearly distressed.This is ‘you’ in general not one person in particular. Things reach boiling point very quickly and too easily
January 11th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Mike
Well I was only born in 1988 - but I don’t think I’m manipulating facts.
January 11th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Hi Lauren
yes, there is an age where we should know better, since I’m a man of nearly 59 with two grown up daughters, and 5 grandchildren…so guess i will have to try a bit harder, lol. And one of them is a girl close to Madeleine’s age.
January 11th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Mods and Admin, thanks for the clarification
January 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Kirstie, never put too much thought into SwissMiss screen name, as strange as that sounds, lol. As she led me to believe she was American. I can only go off her posts, but she seems to speak very good english to me. But hey what do i know, lol.
Like you, i dont think there is any outcome to this whole tragedy
that i can say would truly surprise me, times we live in i guess. Just wish we knew what has happened to Madeleine.
Mike, youre right, lol. Is there an age where we are old enough to know better. Seems to have eluded me so far
Melanie, what can i say, youre right also.
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She is really Swiss, but US resident
January 11th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Lauren,
Yes i agree it is common courtesy that someone should read a post properly before replying, but my point was only that people have differing processing abilities that’s all. I think Swissmiss’s username would perhaps indicate a different first language to most others here. I am sure however she will appreciate your apology.
You’re right in saying that my views were very different not so long ago, but you know it’s like you say things change direction and i feel the stance i take is a far more realistic and i feel better for that in all honesty. I just think now, if the McC’s were arrested for something relating to the disappearance of their daughter then i wouldn’t be so surprised as perhaps i might have been a few months ago.
There is so much going around the press and media it is hard to seperate from whats speculation and what’s not, but i have tried. Like i say there are times when i have a raised eyebrow moment about either RM or the McC’s.
I feel so sad for that little girl though and i think with the best will in the world we are all here for the reason of finding out what happened to her, and more in the earlier days finding ways to help. Like me hate me, i’m not so bothered, but i do have this tendancy to stick up for others who i feel are being at the butt of someone elses sarcasm and rudeness so that is why i jumped to Swissmiss’s defense, i am fairly confident i can say she is a genuinley nice person- wild imagination, but her heart is in the right place. Maybe that is wrong of me, maybe it’s the maternal instinct in me whatever, i would like everyone to get along….
I’m quite shocked that Maggie was banned actually, i had no idea. I wish she wasn’t gone either. I don’t like the animosity believe it or not!!! Lol.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I am very disappointed that some of you have decided to use this thread relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann to engage in rather childish and unseemly banter. Apparently - between people who are, quite frankly, old enough to know better.
I am sure that you all mean well and have your hearts in the right places - but really guys, there is a time & place for everything.
Your embedment in this daft and childish behaviour is tardy and disrespectful to Madeleine as a whole and you should hang your heads in shame.
oops..suppose this includes me too..lol
January 11th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
OH for God’s sake you lot - get over your egos and on with the debate - or start your own “appreciation” blogs. It becomes so tiresome to trawl through all the personal stuff to get to anything interesting - which lately has been scant. If you all need is to be justified and praised in your lives, then this is really not the place - get out into the real world. I glance on here occassionally during the day - and there seems to be a hard core of folk who are CONSTANTLY banging away about who likes who and who upsets who and who is obsessed with who and what. I wonder what you will all do when this saga of Madeleiene McCann is over - I dont think anyone of you want it to end because the rest of the world has passed you by during the past 8 months and you will find it very difficult to catch up..
January 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Daisy, thanks for that. I dont understand why anyone would want to leave because of me, my views are my own, as are anyone elses and as you say everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I personally feel if someone wants to leave, then thats their choice and should be made according to what they think and want and not because of someone they dont even know.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
6082
Lauren Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
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Hi Lauren,
I think it all boils down to the fact that when one particular person has very strong views about this case, they will mostly tend to attack someone who doesn’t share the same views. It’s a fact of life.
I have my own views also and I do not care what someone else thinks about them. I enjoy discussing them and also enjoy reading other posters’ opinion, but I can control my urges and stay calm (mostly).
I haven’t been reading the posts in the last few days, therefore I don’t know what the problem with SwissMiss was, but I know that sometimes people have limited time to read back on the posts of the last few days and this can cause misunderstandings.
Everybody is free to come and go on a forum like this. You don’t have to fee like it is your fault if someone decided to leave or whatever. You have your views and are entitled to them.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
6076 Kirstie, i dont care really if no one reads my posts. But if someone wants to respond to something i have written, then i think its only polite they have actually read what i have written. Otherwise, why respond in the first place? What would be the point?
I havent exchanged a lot of posts with you. But i know that you are probably more sitting on the fence than anything. You are open minded to all the possibilities of what may have happened to Madeleine. You dont appear to be either pro or anti McCann, just more concerned with finding out the truth. I know this, because i have read your posts. I know youre earlier posts were very different. But as this story has progressed its only natural for peoples views on what may have happened to change.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Kat I am certainly not obsessed with SwissMiss. I have replied to posts that she has sent me. She hasnt read what i have written. And as soon as i have mentioned all 3 of the suspects are innocent til proven guilty. Her response is, thats the 2nd time you have mentioned Robert Murat. Whats that meant to imply? That i know the guy or something? All i am saying, all 3 are suspects, all 3 are innocent until proven guilty - thats it. Its very simple to me. But when you come post on a thread like this, where 80% of the posters on here, are under the misguided belief this is a support forum for Kate and Gerry McCann, you are not dealing with people who are unbiased in their thought processes. How is it ok to accuse Murat of all sorts of things, which is what, when you look back at SwissMiss posts she has done, on numerous occasions. Then she has the nerve to jump on anyone who then speculates around the suspicions surrounding Kate and Gerry McCann. (Not the only one prone to this in fairness) It is not one legal system for the McCanns and another for Murat. Does he not have a family? Does he not have a child that may be upset by all of this? Is there not a chance that he may be innocent? And the same could be said of the McCanns. I think all the compassion extended to the McCanns, should be extended to Murat - and if not, why not? Surely all anyone’s concern should be is getting to the truth, whoever is involved. And if that turns out to be the parents - so be it, or if its Murat, so be it and if its none of them, then as long as the truth is found and we learn what has happened to Madeleine - isnt that all that really matters?
I am not the reason for anyone leaving. I am being used as an excuse. And that is obvious, as after reading my post, SwissMiss, didnt say then she wanted to leave. But as soon as Kirstie, said something to me and SwissMiss thought she was whipping up a bit of support, then she says she wants to leave because of me. Im sorry, but its pathetic. There have been people on here, who have been downright nasty. So what i was sarcastic. I have had plenty of that thrown at me from a lot of the users on here. Have i left? No, because i dont need anyone on here to agree or disagree with me. My views are my views.
If the majority find it offensive that i dont come on here spouting sympathy for the McCanns, or professing their innocence, or anyone else’s for that matter. Then thats not my problem. Im not the one who left 3 small children alone. Im not the one changing my story or defending the fact i left 3 children under 4 alone in an unlocked apartment. I am just interested to find out what has happened to Madeleine.
I have read on here from the Mods and Admins, that english is not SwissMiss, mother tongue. I understood from SwissMiss, it was an American/English thing. But if it some other reason she is not understanding my posts. Then i apologise for the sarcasm in the post that i sent to her.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Mods and Admin,
This is the first time I have heard Maggie was banned.
Just so you know once I enter this page on my PC it brings up the latest post. I very rarely scroll back to previous pages/posts and therefore it’s easy to miss any comments Mods and Admin make so we are not intentionally ignoring your comments.
I for one don’t feel that I own this thread I have simply reiterated what you have said in the past about there are other threads on the go that one can go to if they are simply looking for an argument.
I don’t think I’ve been hostile to any newcomers but if you believe it to be the case then so be it.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Hi,
I’m new writer. My mother tongue is not english. I’ve been following this forum a long time and I’m so sad because I´ve seen some people here try to poison this forum and make this forum another hate-forum against McCanns. Swissmiss and Maggie, please come back. Don’t give up and let these some writers drive away you from here, because this is their only purpose.
I believe Madeleine’s parents are very, very innocent and victims of the big witch hunt. I’m full of PJ and PJ’s lies and “theories” Amaral and Rebelo are all same stuff. I don’t care and I don’t believe anything PJ says. PJ is typical corrupt police in very corrupt country.
Minnea
January 11th, 2008 at 9:14 am
Mike
You obviously can’t read.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:09 am
June, Kirstie
I must admit recently I’ve also been coming to realise that we’re unlikely to see Madeleine again…..I’ve always tried to remain positive as I didn’t want to think that she might be dead.
What’s important is that justice is found for Madeleine’s sake….we don’t want any miscarriages of justice. Whoever is guilty must pay - regardless of who it is.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Lauren,
Re # 6063
I’ve tried to stay out of the digs aimed at Swissmiss but that post was just pure sarcasm and downright nasty to be perfectly honest.
You think it’s rude not to take time to read what someone writes ? How do you know how much time is spent reading another ones post…answer..you don’t. Not everyone has a degree in the English language and not everyone has the same literacy and language skills so don’t be so narrow minded and up yourself.
Reading back on the posts it is you that has been incessantly sarcastic towards Swissmiss and how she hasn’t retaliated to you, goodness knows. Evidently it does come across that you’re bullying her and now you’ve succeeded in ousting her from this thread. Shame on you.
Big ego’s or being a drama queen has nothing to do with it…and I’m sure Maggie or Swissmiss or anyone else who has left couldn’t care less if you ‘approved’ of what they said.
If I don’t agree with what someone has said I can debate it in a certain manner, I put my point across and leave it at that….I debate the topic rather than attack the person who has that particular opinion.
I really don’t know why you come on this particular thread, you bring nothing constructive to it, you seem more interested in attacking posters, hounding them about their opinions and beliefs rather than having an interest in poor Madeleine. You’ve got a huge chip on your shoulder and as Kirstie said you’re the one that comes across as having self-esteem issues…..you’re bullying the least argumentative and least head strong person on here (no offence Swissmiss).
Swissmiss,
Do not leave on her account. I suggest you ignore her completely as it’s pretty apparent she’s got an obsession with you and won’t ignore you !
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Once again Maggie was banned by us for an extremely vitriolic attack on another poster, THAT is why she left, no other reason.
Lauren, English is not Swissmiss’ mother tongue,and she has actually been trying to take a neutral stand and see your point of view.
Other users in this thread , there is proprietal attitude about this thread, and there have been uneasy vibes towards newcomers.
This is our fault as much as any, and we shall be moderating this site now for two reasons - the libellous statements that come from here, and the somewhat hotile views, even our posts have remained uncommented upon in fact ignored at times - hence Maggie’s ban.
So we are now agreed there is a new gameplan down here, and the Mods run it
January 11th, 2008 at 8:48 am
June,
I agree. Madeleine is the only one who counts in this. She deserves justice and i hope to GOd she gets it.
You really think we won’t see her again? I have to say, more recently i agree with you in that also. It doesn’t make me feel good to think it. What still irks me is how??? that is if the McCs did harm her in any way, could they go to dinner as if nothing happened and then carried on lieing in the most monumental cover-up i have ever heard, and not crack?? I think with many it is something that is so hideous to even want to contemplate.
Lauren, i think Swissmiss will pop back, i don’t think she should leave, or Maggie because of you either. There are no big egos with either and i personally don’t think it so terrible if your posts are not read or understood fully, everyone is different. Different is cool (my mantra to my son) and some may not be able to take in things quite as easily as the next person….just something for you to ponder on.
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Kirstie
Maggie was banned by us, there was an extremely vitriolic attack on another poster posted by Maggie long after she was strongly urged not to post such things.
Perhaps if everyone could do each the courtesy of reading their posts and then commenting, you may all find you actually do have something in common. After all if one wants one’s viewpoint respected , not even looking at anothers is extremely unfair and intolerant.
Differences of opinion are easy to live with, we all have them and discuss the differences not attack the viewholder.
January 11th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Hi Lyn
Who are you referring to when you say “They all know”? (post 6072)
Have I missed something?
January 11th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Mods and Admin
Sadly everyone seems to be going round in circles here, and just making a sad situation of their own.
There are people who believe the McCanns have not harmed their child, some who believe because she was left alone she came to harm, and quite reasonably hold the parents responsible for that, and then there are others who believe they have wilfully abused their child leading directly to her death. So, there are 3 possible charges- neglect - manslaughter or murder.
Its becoming more obvious to the PJ that Madeleine was not abducted as claimed bythe parents -theywere not there- they cannot know if she was taken or if she left the apartment herself and fell foul of some harm either accidentally or if she was led away by A.N Other.
Certain people claim to have seen Murat in the area that evening, none of these people know Murat, people in PDL who do know him claim he was not around, (not his own family members) just friends etc.
There are other claims that the PJ cannot substantiate, the MCCanns friends stories do vary, and so do the McCanns ,these are a given fact.
There is also the dna of body fluids in the flat and in the hire car.
The tragedy continues,the MCCanns say they can prove their innocence, but they refuse to answer PJ questions.
The tragedy does continue, and it would be wrong to arrest charge and jail the wrong person.
People speculate, the PJ do have some evidence that little Madeleine is dead, and died in early May.
It doesn’t matter who is on the fence, which is probably the wisest place to be.
This case has captured everyone’s attention and imagination - the loss of a child’s life - and by whose hand?
Time will tell, Madeleine’s remains will tell an awful lot, perhaps more than people want to know.
We do not matter,our opinions, our views. Justice for a small child is what matters now, and I for one really hope she gets it.
January 11th, 2008 at 12:04 am
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lyn Says:
January 10th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
It is now 11 January, where is Madeleine? They all know!
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Lyn - I really hope so!!! Then perhaps we can all get our sanity back, and return to a normal life. As I have said before, this little girl needs to be back with her family so badly. I think, no matter what we all say to each other, whether it be sarcastic or friendly, we all agree that Madeleine is the most important person in this whole sorry affair. She is such a beautiful little girl, and to have gone through what she has, and being separated from her family for eight whole months is heartbreaking. I find myself looking at little girls around her age, seeing them with their mums and dads, walking down the street, chatting away and imagine that that is what Madeleine would be like, if only she could be found.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
It is now 11 January, where is Madeleine? They all know!
January 10th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Hi Lauren
Your post ….. 6044 Cant say i agree with your criticisms of Karen’s posts Jean. I think Karen talks a lot of sense and has a lot of valid points to make in her posts.
I am not criticising Karen’s posts on this forum, some of them are quite valid and talk about either Madeleine or the McCanns. If you will read my post again I am referring to the messages put after the daily articles. If you scroll up this page, and look to the right you will see ‘Recent Posts’. Go onto that, read some of those comments and you will see what I mean. The majority of them have no regard for Madeleine, and are full of idiotic innuendos which mean absolutely nothing. There seems to be a clique of people who just bounce off each other.
January 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
6066 - SwissMiss, why the change of heart after Kirsties post?
January 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Kirstie, SwissMiss has been equally sarcastic. Personally i think it rude, not to take the time to read what someone actually writes. I think i have been unbiased in my views about all 3 suspects. Which i have maintained time after time.
The way people feel the need to leave this forum if something they say or think isnt met with the approval of everyone, to me just shows huge egos at play. Who really cares what i think or say? Does Maggie know me? Does SwissMiss know me? Yet they use me as an excuse to no longer post, somewhere, they both claim means something to them. Seems pretty feeble really to leave on my account. Seems like the act of a couple of drama queens. Sorry, but thats the way i feel about all of this. No doubt, my name will be taken in vain on MSN for the foreseeable future
And to be fair Kirstie, you have dished out your fair share of sarcasm and back biting on here. So please no lectures.
I dont think wanting to accuse anyone, is me sitting on the fence. It shows that i am actually thinking logically and dealing with facts. Not just getting caught up in the obvious emotions of this whole thing.
I agree with Karen post that the article by Gerry in Vanity Fair, is distasteful. And to actually say he didnt think it irresponsible to leave the children alone - what more can you add to that?