Madeleine McCann: Blood On The Walls And Urs Hans Von Aesch
IN the McCanns’ apartment:
Police are said to believe the discovery of blood points to Madeleine dying at the flat, possibly in the course of being abducted. The newspaper Jornal De Noticias reported:
“This evidence locates Madeleine’s death inside the apartment, but the investigators are still not certain it was murder, despite the fact that forensic experts have revealed that somebody did try to erase the blood traces.
“The theory most favoured by detectives to explain Maddy’s death - now taken as almost certain - is that it involved an accident.
“The investigators are convinced that the blood belongs to Madeleine, but they are still holding back the detailed results of the tests until their suspicions are confirmed.”
And:
The development came as Interpol alerted Portuguese police to a potential link to a Swiss child abductor who was in the Praia de Luz area when Madeleine went missing.
Urs Hans Von Aesch, 67, who killed himself last week, is the prime suspect in the disappearance of five-year-old Ylenia Lenhard.
The links between Ylenia and Madeleine are striking - they are only a year apart in age, both are blonde and both are of a similar build and height.
A source close to the investigation said those leading the manhunt had been told of “certain similarities” between the two abductions.
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September 3rd, 2007 at 4:05 pm
In answer to Suzanne ( post 24 ) I have come to the conclusion you might as well write stuff on a piece of paper and throw it out of the window for all the good it does. I have yet to have a response from anything I have sent to six different newspapers, Sky News, the Leics. Police and the Portuguese Police. Any sort of response would be better than nothing because if people don’t even get so much as a “thanks, but no thanks” kind of reply, they just aren’t going to bother any more, will lose interest, and the powers-that-be will be the losers, as someone out there - not necessarily “Brainless Brian” and his “dreams” but someone, could just have that little bit of info whch falls into place and Madeleine might be found. She isn’t alive, of that I am certain, but she will be found….
August 14th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
I don’t believe in psychics, but I still think Madeleine is alive. I believe the blood is not hers and she is being held by someone. Maybe a peodophile.
August 8th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
That dream guy is certainly good.
Amazing that his postings appear after a frantic night of news channel surfing (remember West Viginia is -5 hours), so he’s got plenty of time to read up!
Now it might be slightly different if he had the dream four weeks ago!
FAKE SHITE!
August 8th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Jemmied Shutters: I said our police are great AFTER you accused me of saying it!
I said that at 9.49PM LAST NIGHT not today. Can you tell the time? The little hand was pointing to the nine and the big hand was pointing to the ten and it was dark outside!
I didn’t say there was any justification for shooting de Menenz. I simply pointed out that the Brazillian press have probably got lots of material in their own country instead of putting us down.
So, in summary, I think you can’t read and you certainly lack attention to detail. It think it’s called English comprehension.
I suggest you go to dictionary.com to get the meaning of the last word in the previous sentence. Better still, get an adult to read your postings before you click submit!
August 8th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
It remains a mystery to me that people can dwell on this issue to such an extent. Of course, it IS tragic, however, please put this into context and react proportionally. Think of the thousands of helpless people in Darfur, some killed in cold blood, some raped, some maimed for life and most being made homeless. We do NOTHING to lobby our government to act to stop these atrocities. China continues to invest billions in Sudanese oil resources, but we conveniently turn a blind eye - after all we get cheap products from China! Please, rather than post here, contact your local politicians and community leaders about Darfur, not to mention all the other horrific events that are ignored by the media and by this website’s readers.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:35 am
SNAP!! Susanne me too. Couldn’t bare not to.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Tarina….. IF this could help to find little Madeleine, I don’t mind being called a looney….so I have sent the info on!!! Lets hope they react!!!! The rest of the stuff they have done over the past 3 months+ has not produced Madeleine, so when desperate - try something desperate!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:21 am
Jason Palmer: To answer your question “When did I (you) say our police are the greatest?” you said it in print at 9:49 this morning. Just goes to show I can read English.
You then suggest that Brazilian police shooting street children justifies the killing of de Menenez.
Enough said.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:21 am
Hi Susanne..At the risk of being called a looney, I could email the “finding Madeleine” website. Wouldn’t know what else to do. One of the dreams a few days ago simply said “99 days”. Maybe that also refers to the case.
August 8th, 2007 at 11:10 am
Tarina…..forgot to ask…have you any way of getting this info to the “right” people???? I honestly think it is worth checking into. After nearly 100 days and NO results, ANYTHING is worth checking!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am
Tarina….I have had a look…..that is really scary or brilliant or ??? As you say it MAY be nonsense, but so many other useless trails has been followed, so I for one certainly hope someone will follow up on this!!!!!
August 8th, 2007 at 10:02 am
Foranyone who is interested, Look on briansdreams.com. Click on last nights dreams, and scroll down to his last dream. It may be a load of rubbish, but he is very specific about Madeleins location. He is well respected and used by the police in many cases.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Jemmied Shutters: Can you read English? When did I say our Police are the greatest? All I said was that the Portugese Police are CRAP! You really need to learn how to understand the written word or are you just part of a liberal leftist anti police brigade that seems to litter these pages?
Anna: It’s nothing to do with the Empire. It’s to do with being professional, objective, alert and responsible. Saldy the Portugese police are none of these. Yet another liberal leftist.
I’ll be you are both up for ‘talkng’ to the terrorist over a cup of tea and cucumber sandwich! Wake up!
For the record our Police are the greatest. As for the Brazillian press opinons, what happened to Jean was bad - no excuses. How many killings have the Brazillian police carried out? I hear they shoot street kids.
Anyway, back on the subject of Maddie:
To the Portugese Police: You are CRAP - move over boys, let the Brits take over.
To the person(s) who did it: YOUR DAY IS COMING
August 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Yes I get a bit cross when reading stuff like ‘incompetent Portuguese police don’t know what they’re doing’ etc etc. We think our police are so competent? What about all the miscarriages of justice and unsolved crimes? It’s a peculiarly British type of xenophobia, probably dating back to the days we had an empire.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Jason Palmer #11 typifies the attitude of many “The Portugese Police are a bunch of ramshackle, inept, incompetent fools”. Not like the good old Met at all are they? I wonder how the Brazilian press refer to those lying, incompetent clowns? I know what the family of Jean Charles de Menezes think about them.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:58 am
Amazing. In this article -link below - it is stated that Madeleine Mccann’s blood has been found on the walls of the apartment, but goes on to state that the blood spots are awaiting DNA analysis. So how the bloody (pardon) hell do they know who or what the blood came from?
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?storyID=8102
Hal, I see your point they are certainly better at drumming up publicity than providing adequate care for their kids. But I also think that they have not been able to say much b/c of the secrecy laws. Some of those posters seem to be in English which makes sense due to high number of Pom tourists and expats in the region. The posters I understand but not the merchandise. Would have thought the money would have been better spent on equipment for the under-resourced PJ.
August 7th, 2007 at 3:52 am
Hal….I know what you are saying and I’d have to agree…in which case that is the most horrid thing EVER! ….and the irst thing that popped into my mind when news of this tragedy hit the air waves 90 something days ago…
August 7th, 2007 at 2:48 am
Penster Says:
August 7th, 2007 at 2:32 am
It seems that the British tabloids do not have exclusive rights to bullshit and speculation.
Too true; however, neither does the McCann Media Machine have exclusive rights to tell the world their version of what may have happened in that apartment prior to the child vanishing off the face of the earth.
Have you read Gerry’s latest blog entry?
He wants us to believe that a cardiac consultant, an anesthetist-cum-GP and a failed Liberal-candidate-cum-PR-person are printing off posters in a language which they don’t read or write on their home computer’s printer…in between meeting with the police (BBC) and selling yellow plastic bangles at two Euros a pop in a parking lot in Portimao.
Bizarrer by the day.
Latest Update - Gerry’s Blog/Diary
Day 95 - 06/08/2007
Today was again very busy. Lots of e-mails and telephone calls to family and friends who have been involved in the campaign to find Madeleine. I went to a large office store in Portimao to buy a new printer and ink, both of which were badly needed after all the posters we produced this last week.
There has been lots of media attention on the latest police searches. We are pleased that the investigation remains so active and we are cooperating fully with the Portuguese and British police, as we have done since day 1. We continue to hope and pray daily for that vital breakthrough or sighting that will lets us be reunited as a family
August 7th, 2007 at 2:32 am
The blood has not been confirmed as belonging to anyone yet. The speculation seems to have come from Portugese newspapers who simultaneouly claim 1)that the PJ are refusing to comment and 2) that the PJ are treating the finding of blood as evidence that Madeleine was killed accidentally or in the course of the abduction. “Police sources” are cited. It seems that the British tabloids do not have exclusive rights to bullshit and speculation.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:34 am
What strange paedophiles they have in Continental Europe.
Brooms, buckets, wipies, ajax, javex..and let’s not forget the blankie to wrap them all up in (funny that Jane Russell didn’t mention seeing a Hoover, too). Do they wear Rent-A-Maid uniforms and aprons, too?
Read this and weep…no mention of any outside suspects.
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/…..oryID=8102
August 07, 2007
gibby zobel reports on
Madeleine McCann: ‘blood on the walls’
Madeleine McCann’s blood has been found on the walls of the holiday flat where she slept, according to fresh reports in Portugal.
Police say attempts were made to clean it off, making it likely that the four-year-old was killed, either by accident or design, in the holiday complex in Praia da Luz.
…Police now say that the next two weeks are crucial to the inquiry. Maddie’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, are still in the Algarve resort and have yet to comment on the latest developments
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August 7th, 2007 at 1:10 am
That’s right Tarina, there was blood detected initially but not Madeleine’s. The British teams have been brought in to review evidence. These dogs can detect blood/ bodies up to 7years old, so it could be anyone’s blood, blood nose etc. My bet is that it is not hers, as confirmed months ago. She was removed by boat and possibly disposed of in the depths of the ocean or taken to somewhere like north africa for god knows what reason. Doesn’t the scent get lost at Lagos marina or the beach? I wonder if she was prevented from waking up and crying out b/c she had been subdued by the abductor with a drug? Even if mum and dad had sedated her prior to bedtime anyone planning on removing the child in a discreet, organised and undetectable manner would have to make damn sure she didn’t stick up her head and start howling at the fright of being taken by a stranger.
August 6th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
It has been reported on BBC this evening that the blood was discovered during the first search of the apartment shortly after Madeleine went missing, it was tested and dicounted as Madeleines. So much for up to date reporting!
August 6th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
One a case where there are so many variables, one thing is constant: The Portugese Police are a bunch of ramshackle, inept, incompetent fools who seem to be controlled by events instead of controlling the case.
Portugal? Just don’t go there!
August 6th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Speculation upon speculation…thousands upon thousands of words and still no sign of Madeline
August 6th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
I really do hope that this is not maddies blood, I have never been emotionally drawn to help a child in the way i have with madeleine. I pray every night for her safe return and it would be a shame to find that maddie may be not be alive. I was so releaved to hear the news of a possible sighting that was being taken seriosly but now i fear the worst. lets just hope the DNA test from the bottle is broadcast soon.
August 6th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
I do not think, and never have thought there was a paedophile involved.
Did he turn up with this own Ajax, mop and bucket?
If there was blood on the walls, wasn’t this spotted during the 30 minute checks?
Hi Dorcas
August 6th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I totally agree Susanne.
The assumption has been made that it may be Madeleine’s blood.
But given that it’s only just been found & hasn’t been tested yet - that’s pure speculation.
The last lot of forensic tests took ages to come back from the lab, so we probably won’t hear for a while.
Here’s a more responsible report from the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/06/wmaddy306.xml
Whether or not the blood is hers - it shows how un-thorough the Portuguese police & forensic investigations have been, particularly coupled with the fact that Murat’s garden had not been thoroughly searched.
August 6th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
the general concensus has been that she was abducted by a paedophile ring, and I’m sure they would hardly just look at her. I don’t want to have elaborate on what they do to children. So I shall leave that you??
August 6th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
@JuneJohnson I agree it is indeed looking very sad atm but, what on earth is a “paedophile attack” ?
August 6th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
As Molly pointed out earlier, ordinary cleaning doesn’t remove organic matter, whatever it is. She compared it to dog marking, where you need an enzyme based cleaner to remove all traces.
Its all dreadfully sad, but IF Madeleine is dead , better by far through natural causes (even choking) than any cruel depraved death by paedophile attack?
August 6th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Needless to say I most sincerely hope with all my heart - that it isn’t little Madeleine’s blood on the wall. Also I have a very hard time understanding, how you can suddenly 3 months on - say it “most certainly is HER blood” - coupled with the fact that a body have to been left there for min.2 hours before the special sniffer dogs can react to the smell …..I mean the Mccann’s checked every half hour or so…right? The appartment has been re-let….re-sold etc etc over the last 3 months……surely in that timespan it would have been completely cleaned…certainly before or straight after the new owners took possesion of it! This tragic theory makes no sense to me at all. Like most things in this sad sad case!!!!!!!!!!