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My posting here is in response to 314 Geo’s defamatory posting on 9 Sept. 07, when he said: : “I find it irritating that religites like yourself Marlene automatically assume your call to prayer is something we should all agree with and respect, I have no problem with your religiosity but the days of automatic respect for religion are over.”

In another posting 324 ObberGoober Sept., 8, 2007 (who by this time had taken leave of his senses), referred to Our Holy Father The Pope as a “cretin” and he also referred to David Beckham (“Bend it like Beckham”) as a cretin, and JK Rowling as a cretin. “ObberGoober Says: September 8th, 2007 at 5:25 am
I can’t wait to see what cretins such as the Pope, Beckham or JK Rowling will respond to this latest twist regarding the McCrims. Hmmm more free publicity for the celebrity plastics ?”

The Holy Father The Pope is the head of the Church of Rome, he is a good man, and has done you, ObberGoober, no harm. David Beckham is a great British Sportsman, liked and revered around the World, and JK Rowling is a renowned author who has given endless pleasure to her readers around the world with the publication of her books about Harry Potter. ObberGoober and Geo you are wrong, I hope and pray you will become enlightened as you grow towards maturity.

I, Marlene, then posted my response to ObberGoober’s comments and said: “Please refer to the Pope with the utmost respect. Please talk about Christians, all Religions on this Planet, and God, with the utmost respect.”
Geo and ObberGoober then posted again in response to my above posting and asked: “Why ????”

Here is Marlene’s response to ObberGoober’s derogatory remarks about the Pope, Religion, David Beckman, and JK Rowling:
Marlene says, I think anyone who makes remarks that are likely to hurt another’s sentiments is uncultured and uncouth. Neither God, nor the Pope are likely to be diminished by such remarks –i t is the person, in this case Geo and ObberGoober, who makes such remarks, who is diminished. Perhaps if people realised this they would refrain from hurting other people’s sentiments.

Geo and ObberGoober, you should say “A Prayer”

“My King and my Saviour, teach me to see things as You see them, to feel things as You feel them, to value things as You value them, and consequently to be what You would have me to be.”

All the Best, Marlene

Where would they get a body bag in Portugal without drawing any attention to themselves whatsoever, in a country totally unfamiliar to them, where people stare at you 24/7, eyes all-a-goggle? Didn’t we see that in the photos?

And if there wass DNA in the boot, then it must have somehow split. But if that had happened, the smell would have overwhemled the nostrils of every reporter in Prai da Luz, in spite of the McCanns’ best efforts to get rid of it. What do they suppose these doctors are? Magicians?

Then again, what kind of doctors who save lives every day, would accidentally overdose or otherwise their own children? I’d expect them to be the very last people to do that. Remember. Not one but TWO doctors, whose patients in this case are their own kids! What are the odds of this being an accident on their part? Be honest. All because a few strands of Madeleine’s hair were found where they were very likely to be anyway: close to family members.

As the inventer of DNA said, there is no tag on DNA samples saying ‘Guilty’ or ‘Innocent’. It doesn’t work like that. DNA is only useful if it shows that person X was at a crime scene, when they ordinarily had no connection whatever to the victim. But Madelein was their daughter. So DNA evdience is moot in their case. A “row of beans” as Nick Ross put it.

Furthermore, DNA on its own does not tell us who did what. It is only a small part of the investigative process, but its value has been overblown.

This is all according to the experts.

If I was the Judge, I would not want the investigators to embarass themselves any further with this case.

The PJ dooesn’t even have a DNA database of known criminals. They could not use DNA testing in an effective way to find a criminal who has done this before even if they wanted to.

Then again, perhaps Donald Duck did it. Yes, let’s investigate him. The global media would have a field day.

Dont like the attitude of “find the body then”. sounds a if their challenging the cops to look for something that they no isnt there.

I still say that if she is alive, she is now with her biological family in Holland, and the abduction was staged to cover up a deal that was made 5 year ago.

I really think that EVERYONE should be made aware of the behaviour of narcissits and sociopaths, so many of us are blind to this, hence those that take pity on the mccanns, only you and i know better.

Anyone out there fancy a challenge, to uncover all the evil beings to british public by setting up a website or maybe even tv or radio to publicise the problem, i am sure that many many people will be grateful. Maybe even Gerry mcaan, assuming that he is innocent that is.

I agree with you about the characteristics of a sociopath (always forget what the difference is with a socio to a psychopath) but in both conditions one shared trait strong & true which is narcissism.

Where I disagree with you is on Gerry being an innocent victim in this terrible tragedy. When I read Mr. McCann’s blog entries I’m stunned by the massive narcissism he so freely displays. Arnie mentions his entry at the end of August where he proudly mentions how he entered a church & prayed for 10 minutes for Maddie’s safe return.

I’m an atheist & if I had a missing child or even if a friend or neighbor did - I think I might have a lapse back into my religious upbringing & enter a church. Yet even I, an atheist, would spend more than 10 minutes praying for my child, any child’s safe return. His other entries are just as bizarre. He talks about sight seeing & how much the twins like icecream sundaes?

Plus think about the way in which they launched their campaign to allegedly find Madeleine. It was NOT done from the home in England. Why not? With today’s technology they could run a campaign from the South Pole. There was no need to remain in Portugal for such an excessive amount of time. There was also no need to travel around Europe, Africa & North America wasting donated money & time which would have both been better spent finding Madeleine in much more intelligent ways. It seems to me that both parents are loving their spotlight in the media & Gerry seems to really relish it the most between the 2 (imho).

Narcissists make even the most serious terrible life threatening situations happening to other people about themselves.

I know for a fact that a normal innocent parent who has financial resources of their own or collected through the kindheartedness of concerned others - would have hired their own team of detectives & would not have travelled around claiming it was their attempt to find their daughter when it looked much more like a celebrity author’s book tour. Normal innocent parents would have taken lie detector tests by now.

Normal innocent parents would have hired a babysitter or nanny for their children. But you see the mind of the narcissist believes everything is his/her right & narcissists are notoriously cheap when it comes to spending money - except when they are lavishing themselves with gifts. travel, gourmet food & wine etc….

Both of these parents are deeply troubled narcissistic people. British social services should not be fooled by their vocation & affluence.

You sound like a very sincere person & I think that’s wonderful. However, your latest post with your plea to remind us all of The Madeleine Fund rings hollow with me.

If the McCann’s were seriously interested in finding their allegedly kidnapped child then why haven’t they, even 4 months after this child went missing with no clear answers in sight, assembled their own team of private investigators & detectives? Why rather than running their massive campaign to find Madeleine from their English country home did they instead chose to waste time & donated money to travel around Europe, North Africa & North America to according to them, “Get Maddie’s face & story out there”?

Isn’t it strange that doctors would leave their very very young children unattended at a holiday resort which offers free babysitting services & even free child monitors?

Isn’t it bizarre that the McCann’s have not offered a reward for the safe return of Madeleine or a reward for information leading to her being found?

Have you ever read Gerry McCann’s blog? How do his entries sound to you? How does his voice sound? Have you ever visited their ‘Find Madeleine’ website? What do you feel when you see that homepage? What about their homepage advertisement, ‘Madeleine bracelets back in stock! Order yours today!’

Why haven’t the McCann’s who claim to believe their daughter has been kidnapped pooled their massive resources together with the 2 families in Gran Canaria who are also have young missing children? Did you read the report of the McCann’s meeting at least 1 of the Gran Canaria missing child’s mothers? A woman I believe from a very humble background who wrote Kate McCann a letter of loving support? Have the McCanns ever once offered even words of kindness to the suffering of other grieving parents & families of missing children? Have they offered to share all the money they’ve collected for Maddie with the other families?

A lot of people are claiming that Maddie was snatched by a professional who sells children in illegal adoptions or for worse scenarios. If there is such an evil presence in Portugal (and if you research such data by conutry & see how few children are missing in Portugal compared with the massive numbers of children in the UK, Canada & the US) it soon sounds like a very wild stretch of the imagination.

Perhaps your plea to raise money for the McCann’s is sincere but what about the other hundreds of children who go missing daily. Children of poor families or lower middle class families who don’t have parents who can financially orchestrate a massive media campaign as the McCann’s have done? Are those children worth less in your eyes? And if Madeleine was abducted by a professional & therer are other children in Portugal & maybe Spain too who’ve been snatched by the same perp wouldn’t it be in the McCann’s best interest to use their resources to locate ALL these children & NOT only theirs? Isn’t it very possible that if this is the work of a professional childnapper that finding someone elses child will lead them to Madeleine as well?

http://www.gopetition.com/online/14179.html

Dont know anything about sociopaths but it sounds about right.