Madeleine McCann On Your Doormat And In The Loire Valley
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: MADELEINE: Parents are to sue over claims they gave her fatal overdose. (Plus page 7, with logo: THE HUNT FOR MADELEINE: Day 120).
THE WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPER brings the news that the McCanns’ legal action is against the Portuguese publication Tal & Qual. (The Express, of course, has dutifully repeated all the allegations and smears that have emanated from the Portuguese press, for the delectation and disgust of Maddywatchers back home.) Spokeswoman Justine McGuinness says the McCanns “are not going to be a doormat any more”.
Meanwhile, the paper says the hunt has switched to a campsite in the Loire valley after sightings by holidaymakers.
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 2: Madeleine parents to sue newspaper
The Telegraph reports that the McCanns say they are suing to clear their name, not for the money.
THE TIMES page 5: Candle of hope for Madeleine
The paper says that Madeleine’s classmates “said a poignant prayer” yesterday, on what should have been her first day at school.
DAILY MAIL page 6: McCanns to sue over ‘killers’ slur
The paper says the McCanns believe it is time to stand firm against the allegations.
DAILY MIRROR page 11: Maddy school’s prayers
The paper says the McCanns spent a quiet day with their twins in Praia da Luz.
THE STAR page 22: SCHOOL’S SAD WAIT FOR MISSING MADDIES: Chair and locker are saved for her
The empty chair, locker and coat peg are once again invoked. Bishop Ellis headteacher Gail Neill says: “We are deeply saddened that we cannot yet welcome Madeleine McCann.”
THE SUN page 12: MADDIE SCHOOL PRAYER TRIBUTE
The paper also reports on the candle that is being kept burning at the school.
THE INDEPENDENT and THE GUARDIAN: No Madeleine news today.
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September 2nd, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Pat (308, 315 etc), Not guilty of threatening anyone. I try to stick to reasoned posts and share information etc. Thats it. I have thanked Molly for her translation posts and local info etc.
What’s all this about my identity? Is there some post somewhere that I have missed?
Sorry, but you are way of the mark on all of this.
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Mods and Admin , Jonathan, see my post at 1.38 this afternoon…..
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
http://picasaweb.google.com/svsport/McCannsHappy/photo#5100138889486666722
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Tessa i misread your post and thought it said “the GRIPES are wonderful over here this year”
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pm
as for the witch hunt thing, i think it is unfair and dangerous to dunk people in water to see if they drown. A far better method would be to sit gerry and kate on a pendulum and see if they swing.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Tessa I can’t imagine who you are refering to.
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:14 pm
it is difficult for you to find anyone that is not sympathetic towards team mccann because there is a real risk of being villified. Nobdy outside of forums and bulletin boards wishes to stand out and be counted on their own. I stood at the bar of my local early one day and expressed my concerns at the money making machine and my fellow drinkers uttered a few comments and the subject was changed fairly rapidly. I mentioned it a few days after and it was later in the day when slightly more alcohol had been consumed. Well the comments made on this occassion were far different. I won’t begin to repeat what was being said about the team mccann but they made my views look extremly subtle and polite
September 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 pm
There was Fear Factor on here yesterday Moderation. That’s what I meant. Calm down though, you seem a bit overly sensitive. It’s not you that I’m referring to, it was another person. The one you pointed out was rude to me yesterday. But the Fear Factor thing has to stop by everyone. Suing posters shouldn’t even be a topic for discussion. If Anorak has a disclaimer, then the site is protected. Every man for himself. You don’t need to remind posters of that, I think that creates an element of distrust and fear in people.
I know that Anorak’s site is about irony. It’s also as much about being cynical too from the numerous posts I’ve read. I only suggested that you take a look at what else is out there so you can get a better perspective on what is acceptable in this industry or message boards and posting comments on community forums. And it may be that this is the only registered U.S. site, w/ laws that you are not as familiar with living in the U.K.
Please, I am on your side….I am on everyone’s side here….just don’t be so over reactive to things that are meant to assist in the understanding process not to single any one person - other than the guy who cursed at me and called me “Fatty” yesterday which you so diplomatically reprimanded him for - and justifiablly so.
If you’re taking a poll about Siesta, or Gym or Pub. My vote would be all 3!!! Rest, work out and then reward yourself with a delicious crisp glass of chardonnay. The grapes over here are wonderful this year!
Off to church….Bye now!
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Exactly what fear factor are you talking about Tessa? A few posters exchanging information that was reported in the press? My that is scary! Not!No-one is scared, it’s just a weekend.
It is possible to be traced, it is possible to be sued. It is good for everyone to be aware. Okay? that was it really.
The only forum I ever go on is this one, mainly because IRONY is the backbone of Anorak and, on the whole, we love irony. (but not spite)
I’ve decided. Siesta today. Gym tomorrow. Pub? hmmm. maybe later after the gym.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Excellent point Moderation! (The oxymoron point, I mean.)
It is incredible……..no, of course it’s not!……but it IS sad, that in the 21st century we seem to have progressed no further than the medieval witch hunt.
Thank God the police are unlikely to rely on the tabloids (or Anorak!) or to simply throw Murat or the McCanns into a river to see if they sink or swim…..and which would be more accurate, I ask myself!!
Take heart, Moderation. Seriously, take heart.
I haven’t met ONE SINGLE person in real life, even if they say that they would never have left their own young children alone even for half an hour, even if they do not like some aspects of the campaign (ribbons etc.) who has anything other than sympathy for the McCanns now. Most pity this grief-stricken couple and their child from their hearts and are sick to the stomach even to think of their anguish. Most try to put themselves in the shoes of the McCanns and are filled with horror when they think of what they are going through. Most can hardly bear to think about it and are desperate to help in any way they can. Most are impressed with the dignity with which they have, for the most part, conducted themselves throughout their unimaginable ordeal. Most are disgusted by the tabloid smear campaign.
Moderation, do you actually KNOW anybody who thinks differently? No…. I mean… really KNOW any such person……IN REAL LIFE??
Time to move on to more positive things.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:32 pm
319 - LOL - that is not a bad idea!! Not just for Pat but for a lot of posters who might prefer that. You were being facetious I know, but you bring up a great point.
Personally, I love reading Pat’s posts. She is very detailed, thorough, smart and asks really great questions. Above all else, I like her style and mannerisms. She says things in a direct, clear and concise way, but she never offends anyone. If she is joking about something, you see that right away. I have analyzed enough people’s writings over the years to see that she is the real McCoy. A healthy balance to this forum. Yes, her writings are sometimes long, as are many others, but other times they are short, and to the point. I think if I may be so bold to say, that the “camps” on this forum are not divided into who thinks the Mccanns are guilty vs. who thinks they are innocent. No, no, no (as Pat endearingly says!) it’s about style and comfort levels with one another’s style of delivery. I don’t even think it’s cultural. Although that plays into some of it. I think it’s more in line with who you would seek out in a social setting because you can related to them vs. who you would avoid because you have nothing to say to them/nothing in common.
Now, I realize I am opening myself up to conjecture and criticism here but please, it’s Sunday, so be kind and gentle…..I just wanted to say I am one of I’m sure many on this forum who learns a lot from Pat and she brings tremendous value to the discussion and arm chair sleuthing of missing Madeleine. I’d hire her in a heartbeat! And no, I don’t know her outside of this forum.
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
274 - Amen and well said, THANK YOU Edna!!! Finally, someone has set some of these posters straight. I fall into the cateogry that knew what you were saying all along, (someone on here today said there are 3 categories of posters) but did not/could not mitigate some of the needless worry warting of a few regular posters on this forum well.
Your point here is excellent and sums it up for the group:
“As it is, even doing a whois on an IP will only give out where it is, not who it is. My IP changes sometimes several times a day and is on a shared proxy. It’s a waste of time to discuss this. No one pays attention to comments or the commenter, it all falls under freeom of screech!”
LOL - I especially appreciate that last line of yours here. AMEN!!!!!
Sidenote: I didn’t realize this site also uses Google Analytics but I should have and even more to to your point - IP addresses are all logged right there.
Hopefully, you have finally ended the constant worry of many regular posters on this site regarding libel suits and IP addresses tracing. Because it’s NBD!! No body else but the people on this forum seem to care or worry out there. Besides, this stuff you read here is diplomacy compared to many other U.S. registered sites discussing this topic or others. No one over at Court TV or similar content sites are worrying too much! I haven’t seen this type of fear factor in a long time - as in maybe 7 or more years when anonymous cookie profiling was a hot topic w/ Doubleclick lawsuits etc. But that’s becuase they are the company that wrote the book on tracking and tracing end users on the web so they were in the hot seat on that topic for a while.. Totally different ball of wax. Which is why privacy laws were created to protect internet users in the first place. But today, no one worries much or at all about posts on a website (I am on 12 other sites on a regular basis and none of them even discuss this stuff anywhere but here) such as this one that clearly comes up as the number one ranked site when you Google “Armchair Sleuths Madeleine Mccann”. That is it in a nutshell. A forum for Arm Chair Sleuths seeking what happened to Madeleine Mccann the nite of May 3rd. You can’t get more clear that that. I would strongly recommend that if any doubting Thomases on this topic continue to worry, they should compare apples to apples by checking out other U.S registered sites and their comments/posts if you haven’t already done so.
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Mods and Admin
Tessa ,some while back there was a poster, who was not what she seemed and self admitted she was paid to post in favour of the McCann family , she refused to reveal who by.
But her many parting shots were that those who posted views unfavourably to the McCanns would be sued by them. She was very serious about this and many posters left as a result, including those who were worried that Murat might sue.
(thinkI have messed up your post sorry screen jumped, tell me and I’ll correct)
September 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
MODS AND ADMIN….
No probs thank you.
And yes, you’re right. I hadn’t considered the third option…. I’ll carry on thinking for a while longer.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pm
No Pat, what you need is an Anorak chat room!
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Spudgun #228 My husband says people who obsessive not always a bad thing. lol There is a good side theory when you have time…
What you need Anorak is a chat room.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Pat if you put all your ramblings into one paragraph, then there is only one post to ignore and not a dozen.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Sometimes it is hard to figure where people are coming from over the internet. I have notice people often misinterpret what I try to say too.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:51 pm
I thought Johnathon was being intimidating somehow but then ? couldn’t decide. Later I thought I noticed he said something to Molly. All of that just part of it I think.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Moderation I post too much too I guess but I try to chat sometimes…
Yes, I know what you mean, a dilemma , lol
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Molly #280 Good point.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Pat, I think there is a lot of confusion and mis-interpretation at the mo. Maybe late night when the alcohol flows?
Jonathan was accused of posting too often despite being silent for a while, and of haraguing someone when he didn’t.
I have apparently scared everyone away. Oh that I was that powerful!!!
And Excess, I’d love to know how I can be bully as well as being afraid to say Boo. Bit of an oxymoron there!
Now I have a real dilemma… a siesta or a trip to the gym?? hmmmmmmm.
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Mods and Admin
Moderation , if you feel you are having problems with people do let me know, I did post earlier on this matter, but as you well know, people do not read or choose to comprehend
Trythe pub???
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pm
If the Madeleine campaign starts to appear to turn into a damage control campaign what does that mean?
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Where is Teddy Boy? I am having a bad day.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
It all sounds like part of a Madeleine campaign turned into a damage control campaign, just a guess.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Why, is there a theory about who Johnathon was that suddenly showed up the other day? I am trying to understand the references to Johnathon?
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I’ll step in here Pat, there is no reason that Jonathan must be expressly named, he is a regular contributor,and there is no need to understand the references.
And in addition Isla has declared she has left as she took over when Mike left, there is NO other reason why she left. I posted that any more references as to whether or not she was McCann related or involved were to be stopped. The original poster(Alice) who claimed she might be, DID stop, other people will now let that matter rest , otherwise I shall be defending Alice, is that understood?
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Penstar I don’t know about the debate on the computer and all that but believe me nothing at all private about computer use. That is my thought on the matter.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
meaning for Mr. McCann to successfully sue a tabloid does obviously does not mean he is innocent. Technical stuff. You know what I mean.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 pm
#302 Hopefully a good one.
Penstar some lawyers are multi tasked, others like to stay in a few areas, but a civil lawyer. Some lawyers here do both.
It is not especially impressive or convincing of anything to sue tabloids meaning…
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm
For Madeleine’s sake I hope the truth surfaces. She should be considered more in all of this is what I mainly notice at this point.
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 pm
#300 Julie you do have a point too. How can we do anything but sort and try to determine something? I have said it from the very beginning that if you invite the public in a high profile way people will discuss the issues, etc. Why, have there been threats to sue people for comments?
Oh, I did notice someone who came on the other day and mentioned something about threatening maybe Molly ?, maybe the poster was Johnathon just a guess from memory. ???
September 2nd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
What kind of lawyer would you expect to handle a libel case?