Madeleine McCann: Suspects Kate And Gerry And The Flight Of Fancy
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
THE SUN front page: “EXCLUSIVE – ‘We’re being set up. I’ve had enough. Let’s go home.’” This is the “ANGER OF MADDIE DAD.”
Gerry and Kate McCann, “the doctors”, are back in their home town of Rothley, Leicestershire.
Pages 4, 5, 6 & 7: A statement from Gerry McCann in which he thanks one and all for the support and adds: “But we would like to ask for our privacy to be respected now that we have returned home.”
But their private grief is public spectacle. Can they be left alone with their daughter still missing and their campaign to find her in progress?
“YOU’LL LOSE THE TWINS.” Portuguese police are said to have told Kate McCann she should confess or face losing her two children.
“FACT OR FIT-UP?” The Sun considers the claims and gives each an “EXPLANATION.”
THE SUN SAYS: “McCanns’ hell”. The McCann’s “torment gets more horrendous by the day.” Where is the “kidnapper who might still have the four-year-old child in his clutches?”
THE TIMES front page: “McCanns fly home to fights their case.”
Mr McCann says the police’s focus on them is “deeply disturbing”.
Portuguese newspapers claim the McCanns failed to answer 40 questions put to them during interviews last week. “They apparently feared that they could wrongly implicate themselves if he [sic] did so.”
Pages 6 & 7: “Puzzles and mysteries at the very heart of the investigation.”
The paper tries to answer some of these questions. It tells us: “Although a small child could be killed quickly it would take time to hide the body so that it was not discovered in the biggest search in Portuguese history.”
The paper’s David Brown does not reveal how he researched this. He just knows.
The window to the McCanns apartment might have been opened from the inside. Brown of the Wapping Yard concludes: “Or was the window opened to make it appear as if an intruder had used it to enter the bedroom?”
Hmmm. What say you Mr Brown?
DAILY MAIL front page: “Police are determined to charge McCanns with killing Madeleine. HOME…FOR HOW LONG?”
Mr McCann is said to have told a friends: “We are being completely stitched up by the Portuguese police. We are completely f*****. We should have seen this coming weeks ago and gone back to Britain.”
Pages 2 and 3: “Madeleine’s parents consult Pinochet’s lawyer.” The McCanns have consulted with Michael Caplan QC, the British lawyer who represented Chilean dictator General Pinochet, who stood accused to torture and human rights abuses. Interesting?
Pages 4 & 5: “Questions the police must answer.”
The paper wonders if Robert Murat was named as a suspect in the hope his presence might “lead the couple into committing an incriminating indiscretion?” Or not.
In attempting to answer the key questions, the Mail produces more questions.
And the evidence..? The paper’s Michael Hanson wonders just how “foolproof” forensic tests are. You can’t argue with the science. Or can you?
DAILY MIRROR front page: “Kate weeps in Maddy’s room.”
The paper’s “EXCLUSIVE” is that Kate McCann sat alone in Madeleine’s “pink-painted room” and “sobbed in despair”.
How does it know this?
A friend says: “They are not running and will clear their names.”
Pages 4 & 5: Four pictures of the McCanns: arriving at Faro airport; boarding a flight,;on the plane getting ready for take off; and walking to their family home in Rothley.
Pages 6 & 7: “40 questions they both ‘refused’ to answer’.” And: “Officers say her replies left a lot to be desired, ‘it was claimed.’”
“McCANNS FACE KILLING CHARGE.”
“WHY COPS THINK SHE WAS NOT ABDUCTED.”
Page 9: Brian Reade has a daughter the same age as Madeleine McCann. Brian, who writes for the Mirror, has found it “impossible to imagine the depth of pain and guilt”. Without a body, says Brian, “They may never be able to prove their total and complete innocence.”
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE ‘WE CAN PROVE PARENTS DID IT.’ Portuguese police make dramatic new claim over evidence.”
Pages 2, 3 4, 5: The paper’s Martin Evans is on flight EZY 6552. He sees the McCanns travel home. He experiences “first hand…Kate’s pain and anguish on that most difficult of journeys”.
The seatbelts sign goes off. A note is passed to Kate. It is from another passenger. Kate reads the “simple message” of support. “A female passenger kneels by Kate and gives her a “tight hug.”
Kate sobs, “tears dripping slowly down her cheeks”.
Page 6: “Questions for the McCanns.” The Express has a go at solving the mystery. It says “Case could hang over us for ever say parents”.
DAILY STAR front page: “Maddie’s parents surprise flight.” Flight?
Pages 6 & 7: “We’re not running away.”
Page 7: More from Martin Evans, who sees the McCanns’ “pained expressions”.
Pages 8 & 9: “Furious donors want cash back as pressure mounts on friends to reveal all. DAD: I’LL USE £1M MADDIE FUND TO CLEAR OUR NAMES.”
DAILY TELEGRAPH front page: “Year-long wait for McCanns to clear name.”
Says Kate McCann: “Portuguese law prohibits us from commenting on the police investigation. Despite their being so much we wish to say we are unable to do so except to say this: we have played no part in the disappearance of our lovely daughter Madeleine.”
Page 4: “Couple facing a ‘life sentence of grief’.”
THE GUARDIAN front page: “Exhausted and under suspicion, Madeleine’s family come home.”
Pages 2, 4 & 5: “Rothley villagers relieved to see family return.”
“Thank goodness. They’re back where they belong and it’s the best place they could possibly be,” says one young mother.
The Rev Mark Chandler adds: “My every sense tells me that Rothley is just pleased and relieved to have them back.”
THE INDEPENDENT front page: “130 days since they left for a family holiday, the McCanns return to Britain without Madeleine. This is “THE HOMECOMING”.
Pages 2 & 3: “A shattered family returns to Britain without Madeleine”. “Portugal’s media clamour for conviction”.
Says one mother holidaying in Praia da Luz: “You don’t want to believe the worst but when you read headlines like these [in Portuguese media], obviously one conclusion seems more likely than another.”
Says the Diario de Noticia: “PJ wait for final examinations to arrest Madeleine’s parents.”
Madeleine McCann: private grief as public spectacle
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September 10th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
CALLING MODERATORS AND ADMINS
Can we have “And Justice for All” totally removed please ?
On an anonymous forum it is a cardinal sin to malign another poster for simply holding to their right to anonymity.
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I have replied to Justice etc that she stops badgering Christoph for his fax number, that should include all others too. We strongly urge that people do not give out any personal details as any number of people can read without registering.
If, however , people ask me , both of them, or all willing parties I can pass on emails in private.
Any details we do find posted , we delete as we come across them.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
972 - Yes, I was done w/ that discussion a long time ago, I don’t know why he brought it back up again an hour later. It’s mindboggling. It was agreed that we’d disagree when I left here an hour ago.
Don’t know why he got back on it again. Maybe ran out of other topics to fight about?? But he does argue w/ everyone on this forum
Look at Saturday’s posts.
It’s Amazing.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Next one of you to bring it up again is a wanker.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
I will not leave that unanswered.
How disgusting. Now you’re equating me with an abuser who batters women because I point out your 99.99% figure is controverted by the evidence. You’re not reading the evidence. You’re attacking me for providing it.
You DO have hangups.
And saying a person “has hangups” is not the same — or even tangentially close — to being an abuser. So get it together.
Whatever your experience is, I didn’t do it. To you… or anyone else.
Now I’m gonna go get a Slushie.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
970 - I am in charge of myself - why would you say otherwise? I am insulted by that comment.
But thanks for acknowledging he is more to blame.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Great! All friends again now.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
965 - “She obviously has hangups”
Hmmmm that’s what abusers say about the battered women they beat up.
Dispicable.
Julio - I have documentation - not hangups. To set the record straight.
Christoph is just looking for a fight. I won’t give it to him anymore.
I promise, this is the last you’ll hear from me on this topic unless he wants to review my data. Which he “can’t” because he doesnt’ disclose fax #”s.
OH, how convenient! Keep up the ingcognito act.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Please, Christoph ?
Enough on the paedophilia statistics and resulting personal invective. I appeal to you not because you are more to blame, but I consider you to be more in charge of yourself and able to stop.
If you just stop responding, it cannot continue long.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Julie, I’ll talk about whatever I want and if you don’t like it, get a moderator or leave.
I’m not going to drop a point of debate with someone who asked me to provide her proof, I do, and then she calls me obsessive for giving what she asked for.
With that, I am going to head out for a while, but not for that reason. I’ve already given her the evidence her numbers are off even though her main point is sound: Men to commit the majority of paedophilia.
But around 90%, not 99.99.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Justice you talk rubish.
You cannot put a set of figures together and call it fact unless those figures pertain to every single person in the US.
Stats such as you talk about are compiled from reported cases, and that means a very small number of actual abuse cases.
When it comes to female peadophillia it is usually incest on male children few of which are reported. If you want to comment on such topics stop burying your head in the sand and debate fact not fiction.
This is my last word on the subject
September 10th, 2007 at 10:20 pm
I have maintained previously on this forum (not this thread) that I feel that the McCann’s cannot be allowed to get away with the child negligence that played such a great part in the disappearance of this little child.
Parents who are inclined to do the same as what they (the McCann’s) did, i.e. leave their small children unattended just because they FEEL that they are safe and no harm will come to them, MUST be made to realise that their actions will have serious consequences.
Should the McCann’s be allowed to get off “cheaply”, this will serve no purpose and no lesson to the others who are doing exactly what they did that evening.
MADELEINE DESERVES JUSTICE!
September 10th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
957 - You are a mature man. Not in age but in wisdom (I have no idea how old you are!)
Christoph HATES to be wrong. It kills the fragile male ego of his.
Maturity as I said is the ability to rise above something and to as you say Julio, agree to disagree. The margin of error is actually 9.99% with Christoph, refusing to admit the very high stats by Male sexual offenders.
He keeps saying “90%” but has ZERO data to back it up. I have the DATA to back up my 99.99% and he won’t receive it on his fax machine. Which is a very very very weak stance.
To throw out a number and have no documentation and then malign others who are willing to present their documentation. Is ludicrous. As my highly beloved Father would say….”he’s not worth the $99.00 suit he’s wearing today. Throw him ugly arse overboard and full throttle ahead”
And that my dear Christoph is what we’ll do with you now.
zzzzzoooooooommmmmmmmm…
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There are times when Christoph drives me mad, BUT he gave you quite reasonable grounds for refusing to give out his fax number, and if and when we find people’s emails or phone numbers on here we delete them. This is an open to all forum and unregistered, we would be unable to trace who abused the system, people don’t even have to register to read the posts.
You are really beginning to bully the number out of him, so please just stop and call that a day.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
No, Julio, she doesn’t mean “some men” often resort. Look at her fanaticism! She insists that 9999 out of 10000 children who are molested are the victims of males despite overwhelming evidence she asked me to give her — that she now accuses me of having OCD for giving her — that anywhere between 5-15% (probably close to 10) is committed by females.
So she obviously has a real hang-up here.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
And issues related to it, I would think, like paedophilia, which is what the McCann’s believed happened to their daughter. We’re not exactly discussing NASA.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
952:
>Men often resort to diminishing the worthiness or intelligence of a woman when they >become frustrated with her.
Don’t you mean `Some men often resort’…. ?
September 10th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Waaay back at post 402…
My Dad (and Mum) both died when I was 17 (car accident) and I didn’t think to ask about council flats back then. Silly of me, yes I know
Here in Autralia we’d call them housing commission. The aboriginal people often occupy them and when there are many of them in a neighbourhood it’s known as ‘vegemite valley’.
Back on subject : Moriarty, Ice Maiden is a good moniker for Kate but as the days drag on I’m beginning to think she look more like Skeletor. Also Portuguese Police = Keystone Cops and ‘chucking a McCann = going to dinner minus kids.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Christoph, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ enough now!!!!!!!
September 10th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
“So you can prove beyond doubt negligence on the previous nights?”
None of us here can prove anything beyond doubt. We are discussing probabilities, based on leaks, rumours, unsourced newspaper reports and interviews we have seen on tv.
I judge that it is almost certain the PJ have evidence adequate for a simple child neglect charge. On the night in question the McC’s own widely publicised account of events prove it.
Several reported interviews with waiters and other holidaymakers confirm their behaviour was similar on several previous nights, which seems perfectly likely on the basis of their admissions. And surely very easy to produce witnesses for. Presence of this group in public drinking places should not be difficult to establish, if true.
More emphasis will doubtless be placed on this aspect if the main prosecution falters. I would like to see charges for this simple neglect even in advance of the main charges being ready.
We need a line drawn very publicly in the sand for other neglectful parents to learn from.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
What happened to this forum being moderated? Is there another active forum in which people are actually discussing the McCanns and Madeline?
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Oh don’t be so pendantic, wuz on the razzle.
OK I wasn’t, was on a late call to a client and then eating. Seriously there are two of us, both called away.
The posters are, we hope, mature well balanced individuals who can chat among themselves (hopefully) .
If people have been obnoxious they shall be dealt with.
There is an absolute vacuum at the moment regarding all of the McCann family, this happens on this site.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
In other words you’ve lost the debate in the face of overwhelming evidence which you asked for, common sense is against you on the 1 in 10000 children figure molested by a female (your numbers) so now you accuse me of having OCD?
You’re a horrible debater. And a dishonest one if that is your strategy which, obviously, it is.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
950. Thanks Paola.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
951 - You need to abide the psychologists warning here: “Let it go”.
OCD is a disorder that results in a person’s inability to let go of an obsession which can come in the form of an idea, or an inanimate object or a human being for example.
Maturity is about the ability to rise above, and discipline one’s self to agree to disagree.
Are you capable of the latter to overcome the former? It takes a lot of effort, I know. But it can be done.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Justice for All, you ARE totally wrong here.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Fantastic paper with a huge bibliography referencing many other studies.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
918 If Madeline died as a result of an overdose, premeditation isn’t a factor. It was ngligent homicide. Intent is only required in murder cases.
932 Yeah right they loved their children so much they abandonded them to go on the piss. That not love, there were an inconvenience.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
No worries Julie. You’re safe with me on here!!
Talk about rattlin’ the cage….can’t wait to hear the response back on that one
These guys are passionate about what they say. I’ll give them that. There’s a lot of passion missing in debates w/ American men today. Unless it’s about money or sports. So this is quite refreshing.
Yes, I am a healthy female. NOT what I’ve seen others been called, unsubstantiated, on this forum.
Men often resort to diminishing the worthiness or intelligence of a woman when they become frustrated with her. And that’s a fatal error of debating. It kills all credibility.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
No, Julio, because that’s JUST as retarded as what she said. It leaves the possibility of 100% of molestation being committed by men and that’s false. And it’s not fair to the victims of female molesters, usually older female adolescents, but by no means always.
Female Molesters
September 10th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
882 andy,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480805&in_page_id=1770
The friend said the car, believed to have been rented from Eurocar at Faro airport, had been hired on May 28 –25 days after Madeleine vanished.
And she revealed that “a variety of other named drivers” had access to it over the 72 days before it was taken in to be swabbed on August 7.
The revelation suggests that any traces of blood in the car could not be directly linked to Madeleine’s parents.
The friend said: “The car was hired 25 days after Madeleine disappeared and a variety of people, family included, used the car.
“Then police took the car in around 100 days after Madeleine disappeared before giving it back to Kate and Gerry.”
The family friend was also able to give an explanation for the timing of the rental which it is believed had caused interest among detectives.
The car was hired the day before the McCanns travelled to Rome to be blessed by the Pope, at a time when they would not personally need a vehicle.
But the family friend explained that the car was always intended for use by a number of people around the couple in Praia da Luz, especially while the McCanns were away on their tour to gain publicity for the Find Maddie campaign.
Mrs McCann has vehemently denied that she was responsible for the trace of blood, swearing at officers because she was so angry and saying: “There is no way.”
Kate’s mother said any evidence against her daughter must have been “planted”.
Last week family spokesman Justine McGuinness described the allegations over the hire car as “mad and ridiculous”.
However she was unable to comment yesterday on who had picked up the car from Faro and who, other than Gerry and Kate, had access to it.
September 10th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
julie & justice for all although spelt”diffrently” i am also a women, chose to be “a bit diffrent” as a teenager,(by that i just mean spelling my name,i am married with children!(not that its relevant.)
September 10th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Oh, my comment didn’t go through because it’s awaiting moderation. Silly system.
Males are reported to be the abusers in 80-95% of cases
-Thoringer, D., et al., 1988.