Madeleine McCann: Robert Murat Innocent, Private Detectives & Kate McCann’s Hot Lips
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
DAILY MIRROR front page: “WE’LL FIND HER OURSELVES. Maddy parents bring in SAS private detectives”.
Kate and Gerry McCann have hired Control Risk Group, billed as a “crack security firm”, to find their daughter.
Page 5: “THE PROFESSIONALS” – There’s TV show in this. The Portuguese police could be the Keystone Cops, at least that’s what the tabloid press portrays them as.
“Millionaire ex-double glazing boss” is the mystery benefactor paying McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell’s wages. The former window cleaner owns Sale Sharks ruby union club. Look out for their new sponsor.
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE. ‘McCanns ARE LYING’ - Portuguese police says friends are in cover-up.”
Robert Murat is to be told he will not face charges. Kate and Gerry McCann will be the only named suspects.
“SMILING” – The WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPERS leads with a picture of Kate McCann grinning.
Pages 4 and 5: “Kidnap? We just don’t; believe it.” It is reported in Portugal that an unnamed Irishman has come forward to say he was in the same place as the McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner. She told police she had seen a man carrying child dashing from the Ocean Club resort in the direction of Robert Murat’s home. The new witness says he saw no-one.
“’GUILT’ OF PARENTS - More than 60 per cent think the couple know what has happened to Madeleine.”
“WHEN KATE WAS HOT LIPS HEALEY” – 15 YEARS AGO Kate was nicknamed hot lips for her resemblance to Loretta Swit in TV comedy M*A*S*H. The Express has seen her Dundee University year book and the comments - “Kate was great fun”; “renowned for alcoholic binges and some ‘dance till you drop’ nocturnal activities”; “she was certainly more interested in going to the pub than she was in her studies” etc.
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE: PARENTS ARE LYING. Cops say McCanns & friends tried to frame suspect Murat.”
Pages 4 and 5: “McCANNS ‘ARE LYING’.”
A phone poll: “DO YOU BELIEVE THE McCANNS ARE LYING?” Let’s see if we can top that 60 per cent in the Star’s sister paper the Daily Express. Vote now and vote often.
THE SUN pages 12 and 13: “TWIN’S LIFT FOR MUM AND DAD.”
Kate and Gerry McCann are with son Sean. They have been to Mass. Kate sobs when Ave Maria is sung. Daughter Amelie is in nursery school. She is plying with the Cuddle Cat. She bursts into laughter, “her giggles rang around the building”.
DAILY MAIL front page: “Madeleine:
• Ex-SAS team joins hunt
• New sighting in Morocco
• Kate breaks down in church
• Police accused over forensics”
Page 8: “McCanns hire an ex-SAS team to hunt for Maddie.”
“Second witness supports sighting in Morocco” – Remember when Marl Pollard said she saw Madeleine in Morocco? Now we lean that a man also saw Madeleine in Morocco.
THE INDEPENDENT PAGE 17: “Murat no longer suspect.”
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 10: “McCanns hired detective firm with ex-SAS men”. Under Portuguese law, the McCanns are not permitted to carry out their own investigation in Portugal. But they can investigate in other countries.
THE TIMES front page: “McCann investigators” – McCanns hire private security firm.
Pages 12 and 13: “How they managed to turn campaign around.” The McCanns are “winning the propaganda war”. They have gone on the “offensive”.
A family source says: “It is for the police to prove they are guilty.”
GUARDIAN: No Madeleine news today.
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September 24th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
396 moderation
He does that because when anyone clicks on the link, he gets their IP address. Why he should want to be collecting peoples IP addresses is beyond me but perhaps mods and admin could ask him.
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September 24th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
The more posts the more I learn. Wow Anorak is like going to class.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Something went wrong, I couldn’t access the page for nearly an hour, after I tried to post what follows, on the “beautiful child” topic. I think the suspects continual emphasis of this word (oh - and “lovely”) does reveal something about what they were maybe trying to achieve, so I’ll post it anyway since it is still on my clipboard and I can now post again
Here it is:
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Julie
If you apply the word to all children, using it seems pretty meaningless. When you say “child” you have already said it.
But now I know that you mean nothing more by it than “child”, though I find it a bit surprising, I shall take it as such.
I guess the word irritates me in this context because it echoes Gerry and Kate’s endless emphasis of it as though it was somehow significant, and it certainly seemed used by them to suggest “specialness” and superiority to other children. As if it might give us an added reason for thinking the search, and appeal, worthwhile.
Personally I would never use the word “beautiful” in describing any of my children to a third party. I would consider it extremely poor taste to invite anyone to admire them. But then, I suppose I’m English.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
She could have become pregnant, naturally, in May. Why not? It’s possible. She’d be four months by now. And I wouldn’t see it as a public relations no no. I’d see it as a coup. People go gaga over babies especially over those conceived by women who are ‘heartbroken’ at the loss of a child. And, as I said, what a marvellous Portuguese police bashing weapon. They wouldn’t be able to do a thing. I said before I was cynical.Like Marlene Deitrich, I can’t help it!
September 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
579 - I think there are many other reasons why people come to or stay on this forum that you have left off:
To influence the way people think
To motivate people into taking action
To satisfy ego - God is that going to be a big job!
To improve writing skills
To make new internet connections “friends”…(LOL! - yea, I’m laughing with you on that one too)
September 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
When the information came out that the McCanns didn’t answer all the questions asked by the Portugal police that is a BIG RED FLAG. If you have a missing child you answer the questions.
I’ll be back later to finish reading the posts and the links. Oh, there is a new thread and I didn’t recognize that at an earlier time. Happy Anorak.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
595 - g - your final para - yes we do realise that. We also hear his voice in ‘Edna’ and in ‘Simon’ but then you probably picked up that I thought that from the name I am posting under.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
591 - Bishop Brennan
This case could take up to 2 years to come to trial (from the date of the crime). Amongst all the McCann trashing of DNA evidence has been forgotten the fact that Britain is the world leader in this science and has even convicted people by tracing their family members to a particular Caribbean island from partial DNA samples before isolating which family members could have been in the vicinity at the time. But what this science needs is time both in collection and analysis. I know I won’t be posting here every day for 2 years but I do feel that justice will be done for MM.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:16 pm
Read the Control Risk Group’s description on its website and think: who would these services benefit more–madeleine? or her parents?
My opinion is that THE PARENTS HIRED THIS ‘CONTROL RISK’ GROUP FOR THEMSELVES.
This security group is able to behave as unethically/illegtally as they can get away with; they are not working in a gov’t context with public oversight at any stage.
[quoting a newspaper article cited above]: “The company has more than 600 employees, many former members of MI5, MI6, the SAS and Special Boat Service. It is the highest-earning British security firm operating in Iraq. // A former intelligence expert who has worked with CRG said: ‘They can offer advice on personal safety, counter safety. For example, who is watching the McCanns and even advice on hostage negotiation should that be needed. In addition . . . they will most likely offer the McCanns security advice and how to deal with bogus tips.’ ”
Control Risk group are not in the business of locating missing children. They are the investigative equivalent of guns for hire–not the ‘heroes’ Real Stig’s bizarre PR phrases spout.
By the way, you folks do realize the poster called Real Stig routinely stays ‘on message’ and writes like a PR professional, a mouthpiece for/of a certain person’s interests….. Of everyone on here, this persona speaks most like a paid outsider with a key message. The long rant a few days ago about Gerry McCann’s big media accomplishment was as bizarre as, well, Gerry Mccann’s big media “accomplishment.” Best ignored–whatever your view of things.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
586 - Yeah, but the pregnancy would backfire big time on the McCanns. Everyone knows they had to use IVF and then it would opn up the whole pandoras box about, how did she get pregant - wasn’t she supposed to be looking for her alleged abducted daughter?? The tide would turn on them more. Plus, do they really want Child Services down their backs with another child to be monitored by them?
The press would even turn on her then too. Even if it were Mother Nature’s miracles at work - they’d paint her out to be an uncaring Mother who goes out and makes and loses babies like it’s no big deal.
We talk about timelines on this forum Well, try mapping out the pregnancy timeline, if she is indeed pregnant. It just doesn’t add up. Unless this couple is pulling stuff out of the illusionists box, like we’ve never seen before.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
rab jane tanner and another member of the tapas 9 were invited to the police station to confront the only arguido. they pointed at him straight in the face and said” thats him, he done it”
September 24th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
“One of Portugal’s most senior prosecutors said it would be very difficult to secure a conviction without a body or a confession.”
Sadly, I fear that this is a prophecy for how this will go. Having read the books in advance, they will have disposed of poor Madeleine such that she can never be found. The case will gradually run of out steam, interest and money, and the guilty will remain free…
September 24th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
Moderation, although, according to the reports, Murat was implicated due to a concerned reporter, didn’t a member of the Tapas 9, after he was implicated, state it was Murat whom they thought involved?
September 24th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Winky Dink,
Although I didn’t make it to the intended destination today, I have the book!
YES!
September 24th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
574 - Good to hear you say this!
September 24th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
532 Blunger
My recollection is that the two victims of Huntley’s appalling crimes were discovered by a farm worker, as is often the case (dog walkers are often the key in finding bodies), and Huntley hadn’t been charged at the time - pollen may have been part of the evidence found to nail him - I don’t know. In his case, he had previous, and his pleas of innocence only highlight the well known fact that previous behaviour will predict future behaviour. Even Shipman had convictions which would or should have raised concerns. Do the Mccanns or any of the other Tapas 9 have previous convictions -this would in my opinion be a key indicator of possible involvement in M’s disappearance. However, in our ridiculous pursuit of protecting ’scumbags’ right to data protection and ‘human rights’ , the vast majority of law abiding citizens are ‘lumped in’ with our criminal underclass as being equally innocent / guilty.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
If Mrs. M is pregnant, as I think she is (apart from marvelling at how she sorted out the IVF treatment visits in the maelstrom which surrounds her)it would be the wonder weapon to demolish the Portuguese with in that her coterie of friends, relatives, Clarence Mitchells, sympathetic female journalists - who are legion - would all scream ‘You’ll cause a miscarriage’ at the slightest accusatory movement in her direction.
She’d have it made and sorted for ever and ever.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
The Real Stig Says:
September 24th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
“Because either through incompetence or malicious intent, the PJ seem to have done their utter best to eradicate any possible trace of evidence their might have been.”
Stig, you condescending fool I wasn’t gonna reply to any of your posts anymore cause you have got shit in your eyes, but… the moment kate announced that she suspected that her child had been abducted, she inadvertantly declared the apartment a crime scene. The mccanns then lets no less than 20 people into the apartment in order to nullify evidence.
so don’t talk to us about the pj’s damaging evidence.
IF THEY ARE GUILTY I HOPE THEY SWING (OOOPS!!!THEY ALREADY DO)
September 24th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Post 279 blunger says (September 24th, 2007 at 2:05 pm)
“If the body-hiding occurred, the key is to decide on the motive. Why was an autopsy to be prevented at all costs? One explanation is the presence of unacceptable sedation. This could have involved one of the other doctors, and provided him/her with the motive to assist in a coverup”.
REPLY: It’s clear that Madeleine’s death in the apartment couldn’t be presented as an accident. I agree that the McCanns and anyone else involved could not possibly risk an autopsy.
IMO most likely scenario, one parent loses it and Madeleine is killed by force and blood is spilt.
If we think it could have been over-prescription of sedatives, would that not be easy to explain? - ‘we gave her too much by mistake’? Or would the substance used perhaps have been illegal? Is it possible she was injected with a powerful anaesthetic? The autopsy might reveal the injection?
I hate to bring this up, but when JonBenet Ramsey’s pathetic little body was found in the basement, there was clear evidence of her having been sexually abused, as well as of a violent blow to the head.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
i’d prolly still rail kate after 14 bottles of wine, damn my standards are slipping
September 24th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
327 its ludycrush
“Theres something in Madeleines ‘look’ with and without makeup which
is very disturbing.”
No there isn’t.
September 24th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
innocenttilproveninnocent 573
You’re so wrong about Robert Murat being framed by the pro-McCanns.
He was charged, tried and convicted on this very forum at the time. Look back through some of the old posts and see just what the Anorak jury did to him.
Because I stuck up for Murat at that time (no-one deserved what he was accused of) I was even accused of being a conspiring paedophile!
Shows how dangerous playing chinese whispers is………
September 24th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
554 Tony Bennet, I have read the article about the “pact of silence”, and it is interesting.
However, I would think this “pact of silence” that some of the Tapas 9 refer to is just a decision that the McCanns make all media statements. I think that is acceptable as a matter of respect to the victim’s family.
I am not saying that it couldn’t be anything more sinister, though. I still think that, pact or no pact, it would be highly dangerous to allow all the members into the secret. It is one thing keeping quiet to the press, another to do it to the Police.
Stig, as most of the “evidence” mentioned is circumsantial, each piece of it can be refuted with some other excuse. But it is never the specific instances; it is the mass of events that becomes overwhelming. It seems that it is not only the “anti-McCanns” who have closed their minds.
I cannot decide what happened, but - almost contrary to saying it is never a specific instance - the washing of cuddle cat really has made me highly suspicious. No person I have talked to, especially women, can understand this.
September 24th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
judith c, the reason for many people coming here is beyond finding maddie, since many folk bellieve that it has been too long for hope. the main reason for people populating these pages is for justice, an alternate view to the mass media and the mockery gerry mimikin is making of the general populous
September 24th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
561 - How COULD she be pregnant - or even look pregnant now? Think about it. This is an infertile woman, as the world knows now, who’s had to use IVF to conceive all of her kids.
She’s been in Portugal from April 28th - September 10th. With the exception of going home to England once in June or July I believe, for the christening of a friend’s baby.
Her IVF is done at the hospital she knows and works at for complete confidentiality. If it was done “on the road” in Portugal, or Rome or Spain, the only other places she’s traveled, then how would her frozen embryos have been shipped there without anyoen knowing??
If she got pregnant when she returned to England on the 10th September (a Sunday), and today is the 24th of Sept. that leaves 2 weeks - 13 days - for her to have become pregnant with her own embryos. I’d like to know how many women you know who are visibilty showing their pregnancy in 2 weeks time? MOST don’t even know they are pregnant until they miss a period - which is 4 weeks time. Unless you’re me of course, who’s quite in tune with her body and knows immediately when something is “up”. But the rest of the world would never know if a woman is pregant at week two, because she would not even be showign at that point.
Now, if you’re going to also state that the IVF could have been done prior to returning to England this month, then I am going to seriously dispute that theory in that the leaks would get out and the McCanns know how bad that would look for them to have given up so soon on finding their child, that they pulled out the frozen embryos from the freezer and heated them up in the microwave already. That is going to look VERY BAD and I doubt any hospital would be able to cover that up if they’ve done this already outside of England.
Of course, Mother Nature does have it’s final say in life and sometimes an infertile woman, miraculously (said with out sincerity) but rarely becomes pregnant after years of IVF treatments. But typically, she’s not 39 years old and she’s not under such undue stress as Kate McCann has been under this summer.
So yes, it’s possible, but highly unlikely that any of these scenarios have happened. I say it’s possible becuase in the event I am wrong - I am sure I’ll have every Tom, Dick and Harry on this forum ready to jump down my throat with a butcher’s knife - or at least after my jugular - so it’s a CYA statment.
But I wouldn’t bank on Kate being pregnant. It’s a bad move from a PR perspective……unless, it’s all part of the master plan. Make it all disappear with a new pregnancy - new child - new ….I can’t even bring myself to thinking it, let alone type it…..
Oy Vey!
September 24th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
479.
If your “friend” is a “freelance journalist”, he would know how to write, this person doesn’t.
And as night falls, Europe goes to sleep and we leave this blog open to moronic Americans who can do nothing more than be abusive and ridicule an important situation.
(see previous five entries)
September 24th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I think this ones gonna be a nil all draw.
September 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
To me the most obvious account of Maddie being found missing would be that she wandered out. After all the door was unlocked. So why all the stories of abduction and world wide appeals (only in English I believe) by the McCann’s? Because if it is true that Maddie wandered off, drowned at sea, or fell down the road works, then most public sympathy would have immediately turned on the McCann’s for wilful neglect focussing on the children being left alone not in a hotel room but an apartment rather like leaving them at home alone). If the child is thought abducted then the immediate response is poor Kate and Gerry what can we do to help you. However, as intelligent as they may be to have reached the levels they have in their careers, they have not been able to truly understand how the general public work. Or perhaps they are too arrogant, and believe the majority of the great unwashed to be easily led by tabloid hype and fancy spin doctors?
September 24th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
(559) Damsel in distress:
“But I have concerns that many on this forum are purely interested in this case because, it’s about a blonde haired blue eyed little girl.”
You should allay your concerns. I don’t think - from what I’ve read so far - that anyone on this site is interested in this case because it’s about a blonde haired blue eyed little girl. We’ve left that to the media, who are also largely interested in the case because the mother is a blonde erstwhile hot-lips and still passably young and attractive. Forget about Mr. M, he doesn’t count.
No, we are coming to this forum from many different positions - concern for a missing child, social concern, political implications,desire to see justice, human interest, armchair detection - you name it, and someone has been or will be expressing a view concurrent with these positions or some new one. I don’t honestly think anyone on this forum is so simplistic as to be contributing solely because the missing child is pretty and a girl.
September 24th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
517. There are many valid and elaborated opinions among these postings like this one. Is there perhaps any window of opportunity to make these “alternative” opinions known to the British media, public, politicians, police etc? The British media appears lately to have been brainwashed by pro-mcCann campaigning. The truth really deserves to come out. Look at Robert Murat. He was being framed (by Team mcCann) but came out as innocent. As the mcCanns are being framed too, they’ll come out as innocent thanks to an independent investigation. They have nothing to worry and fight against. Just keep looking for Maddie! Unless, of course…