Madeleine McCann: Kate McCann Becomes Mum
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – I CRY EVERY DAY SAYS KATE”
“For the first time she reveals her torment” – Kate gives the papers what they want: tears
Pages 6 and 7: “Madleine’s mum: I can’t stop crying” – Kate McCann is no longer Kate McCann; she is above all things Madeleine’s mum
“Obviously nothing can compare with the night Madeleine went missing,” says mum. And Gerry – dad’s – worst moment? “I think when we were made suspects in our own daughter’s disappearance – when the inference was that Madeleine was dead and that, somehow, we were involved…”
Yes…
“But, no it can’t get any worse than that first night…”
DAILY MAIL page 7: “Some days I just can’t stop the tears, says Maddie’s mother”
“Second police chief quits the case” – Tavares Almeida has followed his boss Goncarlo Amaral and left the business of Madeleine McCann to another lucky Portuguese cop
DAILY MIRROR front page: “KATE McCANN SPEAKS AS NEVER BEFORE..Every day felt like a week”
Page 5: “Being named suspects, the idea that we were involved, was terrible. But NOTHING can compare to the trauma of the first night our Madeleine went missing”
Kate is a “locum GP”. Gerry is a “heart specialist”. These are the facts. And they remain unaltered
The couple give an interview as they visit the offices of the Leicester Mercury newspaper, where they are presented with a cheque for £57,000 from the sales of the Madeleine wristbands
THE SUN front page: “KATE’S MADDIE ORDEAL – NOTHING’S AS BAD AS THAT NIGHT. Mum tells of torment”
Page 6: “I weep for Maddie…but we still have hope”
Says Kate McCann: “I’ve had days when if I wasn’t crying for Madeleine, I was crying from the messages people have sent us”
The McCanns “say their lowest point…was when Portuguese police declared them ‘arguidos’ – formal suspects over their daughter’s disappearance”. So not the night Madeleine disappeared, as the Express says?
Gerry is a “cardiologist”
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE – Kate: I cry for my daughter every day”
Page 8 and 9: “Finding Maddie had gone was far worse than being named suspect in killing”
THE TIMES page 14: “The twins are the only part of our lives that are normal”
Kate McCann says: “There is a semblance of normality returning. It’s more normal than it was three weeks ago, Amelie and Sean can see that. But really how can it be normal without Madeleine?”
THE INDEPENDENT page 8: “Second officer steps own from Madeleine inquiry” – Tavares Almeida. Bad Times, as Tavares were wont to say
THE GUARDIAN page 15: “Sacked Madeleine detective’s deputy seeks leave” – Senor Tavares. (Heaven Must be Missing An Angel)
DAILY TELEGRAPH front page: “KATE McCANN: THE DAILY TORMENT OF LIFE WITHOUT MADELEINE”
Page 3: “The McCanns have kept Madeleine’s room the same as it was. The twins are allowed in for a few minutes - “Otherwise, the door remains closed most of the time”
Detectives make notes.
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October 6th, 2007 at 5:01 am
Wait. One more thing. The issue with Gerry’s Haircuts is greatly exaggerated. I did read the entire blog today and although there was one VERY poorly timed mention of the Haircut (I think it was day 100 — when a lot of people started reading due to the media attention) there was VERY LITTLE else. One mention of the kids’ haircuts, and many mentions of going jogging. Jogging is a really, really good way of keeping on top of depression and anxiety and I would hope the McCanns would keep doing it. I see nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong with mentioning it. Although the blog does feel strangely detached, there’s nothing that weird in it, and nothing that made me think Gerry and Kate are not really decent people. Their decision to leave the twins behind when they take trips is THE RIGHT THING TO DO, Stevo… I’ve got a 3-year-old and a 4-year-old and dragging them all over Europe would exhaust them, make them crabby, expose them to all the airplane germs, take them away from their routines (which are SO important at this age, really), take them away from familiar objects (the bed they’ve been sleeping in, etc), create sleep deprivation in them and me, and generally make everything more difficult. I mean, heck, I am only BARELY getting to the point with my kids where I”m safe to take them to a restaurant and expect them to behave nicely. Dragging them all over Europe to meet dignitaries and the Pope? Give me a break! Terrible idea! This decision actually helps me think Kate and Gerry are probably really good & thoughtful parents.
October 6th, 2007 at 4:51 am
Maria, I Just have to thank you for taking the time from whatever job you do during the day to be so very rational, reasonable and RIGHT about this case. I’m so glad someone is here holding up this end of the spectrum… you are 100 percent right about this, and someone needs to be here doing this… (Certain of us who share your opinions are a little too emotional/prone to outbursts/tired/busy). So please keep at it…. Your last post today is absolutely excellent. Ditto too your thoughts on Mr. Woolfall. I mean, so far, if we’re counting members of the Conspiracy, we’re clearly reaching 100, if the conspiracy theorists are to be believed. But anyway, goodnight from America…
October 6th, 2007 at 4:43 am
Kate McCann and her extended team of players need to know the general public isn’t as gullible as they think. The trouble with narcissists and mommy’s with bad tempers and short fuses is they think others don’t notice. Kate emotional alright, but in a negative and dangerous way.
But let Kate continue acting, fine by me.
Neither the PJ or UK police believe her. That’s all I need to know.
All Kate needed to do was cooperate with the police during her meetings.
She refused to answer the questions presented to her.
The May 3rd timeline the McCanns provided to the PJ was a lie.
Why are the McCanns lying?
Why is the British media promoting them as saints?
October 6th, 2007 at 2:14 am
Stevo (669) - The “Sueable” Paper:
A week before The Week Amaral was Dismissed, Detectives Quit the case and Kate Started to Cry: that paper unexpectedly published its last edition. Journalists arrived at work in the morning to find that it would be their last day. Just like that. Out of the blue.
Funny how the world turns.
Or maybe you can MAKE it turn by applying a little pressure…
The leaks:
I will repeat something I’ve said before: the leaks will continue. They never came from a police source.
In Portugal, it’s very easy to get a (civil) clerk to take a little peek at a file or two, at any stage in an investigation. It’s also quite impossible to prove who did it, out of dozens of people foreign to an investigation who have access to the files and dossiers (typists, filers, “officers of the court”, and so forth).
Therefore, clerks are a well-known and trusted “source” for journalists. (When they don’t actually have access to the files the journalist wants to hear about, the way to maintain the “relationship” is to, um, be creative.)
This latest quote about “legal sources close to the investigation” (or something like that) should be read as “a court clerk said that (etc)”.
Discretion should be used when interpreting the word “close”, when applied to “sources”. Geographically close to the investigation, sure. Intellectually close? Not quite.
2003 Casa Pia pedophilia scandal someone quoted:
That post was actually a wonderful non-sequitur.
I can only assume the poster was trying to suggest that the men who 5 years ago used the sexual favours of institutionalized adolescent boys, who prostituted themselves in exchange for video games, would now be destined to sneak all the way down to a Luxury Resort in Praia da Luz to abduct a foreign female toddler with a very obvious birth mark.
Yeah, the Modus Operandi is clearly the same. Wonderful of you to spot this uncanny criminal connection! (It’s almost as “uncanny” as the “uncanny resemblance” between Madeleine and the Moroccan child.)
By the way, to bring that 4 year old article up to date:
Remember the “Satanic Rituals” taking place in schools and kindergartens in the US in the 80s and 90s?
The same strategy was used initially in 2003 when the Casa Pia scandal broke - they handed every boy a mugshot album with dozens of men, and asked them to identify the ones they knew (under the skewed logic that any man the boys recognized would have payed them for sexual favours) - naturally, the kids recognized all the familiar faces in the album: men who were on tv.
The mugshot-album strategy has, of course, since been abandoned.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:11 am
Psssst….Judge Dread…..are you excited yet
October 6th, 2007 at 2:08 am
817 - I think I love you Judge Dread. Will you marry me??
No one is else is listening ….it’s just us, we’re all alone……
Hey, wanna hold hands over in the corner with me
I don’t bite - not usually … :-0
October 6th, 2007 at 2:06 am
Refrain:
When you’re down and troubled
and you need a helping hand,
and nothing, whoa nothing is going right.
Close your eyes and think of me
and soon I will be there
to brighten up even your darkest nights.
You just call out my name,
and you know wherever I am
I’ll come running, oh yeah baby
to see you again.
Winter, spring, summer, or fall,
all you got to do is call
and I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You’ve got a friend.
If the sky above you
should turn dark and full of clouds
and that old north wind should begin to blow
Keep your head together and call my name out loud now
and soon I’ll be knocking upon your door.
You just call out my name and you know where ever I am
I’ll come running to see you again.
Winter, spring, summer or fall
all you got to do is call
and I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, ain’t it good to know that you’ve got a friend?
People can be so cold.
They’ll hurt you and desert you.
Well they’ll take your soul if you let them.
Oh yeah, but don’t you let them.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:04 am
813 Is Coo Coo Ka Choo trying to say something
October 6th, 2007 at 2:00 am
You say TomAH-to we say TomAY-to
You say PotAH-to we say PotAY-to
You say Emphasise - we say - Emphasize
You say Criticise - we say - Criticize
You say Neighbourhood - we say - Neighborhood
You say it with a U - we say…. it ain’t true!!
But we all say we love sweet baby james…..he’s the favorite!
I dedicate my song tonite to the 3 in 1 notorius:Paulette, Anonymous and the opinionated Judge Judy. In the true meaning of peace and good will towards all (wo) men.
You just call out my name,
And you know whereever I am
Ill come running, oh yeah baby
To see you again.
Winter, spring, summer, or fall,
All you have to do is call
And Ill be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Youve got a friend.
Hey, aint it good to know that youve got a friend?
People can be so cold.
Theyll hurt you and desert you.
Well theyll take your soul if you let them.
Oh yeah, but dont you let them.
October 6th, 2007 at 1:57 am
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2007 at 1:57 am
Hola!!
Cervesa???
OLE’
October 6th, 2007 at 1:46 am
Wee Little Winkie Runs through the town,
Upstairs and downstairs in his nightgown,
Knocking at the windows, peeping through the locks,
Are the children in their beds???????
For now it’s 8 O’Clock.
Good night mary ellen……
‘night John Boy…
Good night Grandma,
‘night John Boy,
Good night Daddy,
‘night John Boy,
Good night Paulette,
‘night John Boy
Good night Jolie,
Good night, DeeDeeDee,
Goodnight Dora,
Good night Krissie,
Good night Spudgun,
Good night, Maria,
Good night Moderation,
Good night, JuneJohnson,
Good night Anorak,
Good night agw,
Good night Teddy Boy,
Good night Sherlock,
Good night Judge Dread,
Good night Sophie,
Good night Anonymous,
Good night slyfox,
Good night Karen,
Good night Jerrilynn,
Good night Tony Bennett
Good night South Africa
Good night America
Good night Canada
Good night Italy
Good night UK
Good night Portugal
Good night to McCann’s
Good night sweet Madeleine…..rest in peace little Angel.
October 6th, 2007 at 1:46 am
804 (Just before sleep overcomes me!)
Thanks for accepting apology and saying I come over as caring. I hope I am. I do try to ensure that this does not cloud my judgement.
I have never condoned what the McCanns did and I personally probably would not do it. (My husband says that “probably” is really a “definitely”!) However, I have had a lot of dicussions about this with friends, family and colleagues. Some say they wouldn’t have done it, most say they would not wish to make a judgement without being there, and many say they have done the same thing. Two unrelated older relatives say that they used the patrol service when they stayed at Butlins years ago. Exactly the same thing really. Three colleagues say they always had a drink in the poolside bar while their kids slept in their apartment, in view but kids out of earshot. Two other friends say they left kids in hotel rooms while they dined downstairs. A recent article in the Times suggested that many people now feel annoyed that their normal evening pattern on holiday has been distrurbed by this event. Waiters in a similar holiday site in Spain told a colleague of mine and his wife that the behaviour of British visitors had changed since the McCann case and the restaurant was heaving with tired, crying toddlers! I would just point out that the friends etc I’m talking about include a full mix of professional people, not idiots or knaves.
Now do not misunderstand me. I would not do it. I think I would take it in turns with my husband to stay in the apartment if I found myself in a similar situation. I do not think it was wise at all. BUT I don’t think it was quite as unusual as you do and nor does it indicate that they don’t love their children.
In any case, I feel they will have learnt their lesson. It is interesting that the Times article points out that the public prosecutor refused Amaral’s request to remand KM for “abandonment” of her children. To prosecute them on top of everything they’ve gone through does seem vindictive to me, I’m afraid.
I know nothing of pics of the McCanns naked but then I never read The People. (Read??!!) I do find it hard to believe that such stories haven’t even made the “normal” tabloids and I doubt them very much. Nobody else has mentioned them to my knowledge.
On the contrary, the picture of them from all their friends and colleagues is one of loving parents, respected colleagues and much-loved, affectionate friends, godparents etc. The priest who married them and baptised Madeleine spoke of their qualities as people, parents etc. As someone said in an earlier post, all of us have made mistakes in our lives. I have. Have you not?
I still do not see why political pressure should be thought relevant in this case. At the beginning when it appeared like a straightforward tragedy, of course they turned to the consulate for help, as Mr Woolfall says in today’s interesting Times article. I would do exactly the same thing and would expect help.
I shouldn’t think the Pope even remembers that occasion!! Honestly!! In fact I thought he was decidedly distrait on the actual day!! Gordon Brown would NOT want to be seen to support a couple the country thought to be child-killers and hoaxers. I should think he has very different things on his mind anyway.
I accept that there would be a bit of embarrassment (eg. Archbishop of York) if they turned out to be guilty but that’s al. Mitchell would move on to another job!
The reason some of these people are defending the McCanns is because they believe they are at risk of being the victims of one the worst miscarriages of justice ever.
That is my fear. I cannot be sure but neither can you??? If there is ANY risk of that, they should be supported, IMHO, until solid evidence emerges.
Thanks for the replies! Good night.
811 Jolie
Yes, why should Mr Woolfall know anything? He was only with them most of the time at the beginning whereas we have seen or heard the odd interview or seen them followed everywhere by cameras!
I’m sure they went through all sorts of possibilities in their intial shock and lack of ability to think clearly. KM probably hoped that her first impression was wrong and the child might have wandered out. I simply don’t know but I see no reason to think Mr Woolfall is deliberately lying. Why would he except that he fears they are being wrongly accused?
Why would you doubt Mr Woolfall? Is he also part of the CONSPIRACY? Or maybe he’s being bribed out of the fund?
I honestly cannot understand why you would not wish at least to take account of what he says except that it conflicts with a determined view to insist on their guilt.
October 6th, 2007 at 1:03 am
I guess all the Brits have gone to bed. Anorak should sum up these new articles in another feature article for tomorrow’s forum. See you there!
Good night from the US!
October 6th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Here’s a bit more excerpted from the Times article:
“Many theories have emerged from the claim that Madeleine’s twin sister and brother, aged 2, failed to wake or cry when she vanished. Mr Woolfall said he had not heard of the twins’ alleged silence until he read about it in a newspaper in Britain. The claim was attributed to the Portuguese police.
There has even been a suggestion that Mrs McCann carried her daughter’s Cuddle Cat soft toy because it would look good on TV. “For that to have in any way validity, it would cancel out the fact that these two people hadn’t got a clue about PR or the media,” Mr Woolfall said. “To suddenly be that sophisticated . . . I noticed Kate often had this toy with her. It was Madeleine’s favourite toy and she would go to bed with it. Kate had it with her when she went to church. She had it in the apartment.”
Well, now if Mr. Woolfall, PR Consultant, insists they’re innocent, well, then they MUST be and I believe him [sarcasm].
Nice try, Mr. Woolfall.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:54 am
News article dated October 6. You just have to read it to believe it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2599613.ece
It begins:
“Gerry and Kate McCann’s on-screen composure in the days after their daughter disappeared was at odds with their turmoil and dread behind the scenes, a witness says today.
The couple swung between uncontrollable distress and a determination to do what was needed to help to find Madeleine. They gave no indication that they thought she had been snatched, let alone by a paedophile. Their early assumption was that she had wandered off and had an accident or been taken in by a well-meaning stranger.”
Doesn’t that contradict the McCanns’ story that they knew immediately that she had been taken?
And there’s so much more, to respond to the questions and concerns of us “armchair detectives.” Yep, we are actually mentioned. So many concerns addressed!
October 6th, 2007 at 12:50 am
628, Judith C
“You spend longer on here than I do.”
I really have to disagree with you, add up my posts and see how many I have posted in comparison to others. I am never on this site for that long and I really don’t understand why you would make such an absolutely false claim against me.
Yes I do think it is wrong when people like Anonymous are harassing Moderation with emails left on her personal website, or did you choose to ignore that part of my post for a reason. When people started behaving badly beyond this forum then yes they are being too affected by someone else’s tragedy and they need to readdress what is going on in their lives.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:37 am
This article just released alleges that Mr. Amaral wanted Kate jailed when she was first interrogated and she refused to answer questions, but the prosecutor disagreed and would not allow it.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/21221/POLICE-WANTED-TO-LOCK-UP-MUM
October 6th, 2007 at 12:36 am
803 Jolie
Agree your observations.
As professional people - doctors - they would be less likely than most to admit to the feelings of depression, frustration, anger, lack of fulfilment and disappointment that seem to be features of both their lives from the pre-May 3 glimpses we have of them.
Despite outward appearances.
As I said soon after I came on to these forums, a full and frank confession by them is necessary ASAP. Otherwise I too foresee a greater tragedy ahead
October 6th, 2007 at 12:29 am
That’s right I forgot left out the sedation and intercepted calls and emails.
About half way down a photoe of Kate with a bruise on her arm.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53137
October 6th, 2007 at 12:28 am
712 Maria
BRIEF POINTS
First thanks for your apology, not needed as it was just a slightly careless phrase perhaps, but welcome nevertheless. Now…
You asked: WHO benefits from covering the McCanns’ guilt if they are guilty? (Obviously they themselves would, if guilty, and so would their friends, if guilty.)
REPLY: I assume you mean ‘covering *up*’? Probably very few of those involved know or believe that the McCanns are guilty of involvement in the
‘disappearance’ of Madeleine, except probably the Tapas 9. The Pope would benefit if the McCanns are found innocent, or if there is no trial. He blessed a photograph of Madeleine and personally spoke to the McCanns. He would be embarrassed to have given them such support if it turns out that they were involved in Madeleine’s ‘disappearance’. For similar reasons, so would Gordon Brown. As I’ve said, I think the majority of the rest of them are in it for the money or the publicity. If it all goes wrong and the McCanns are guilty of something, they’ll have all made money out of the case. Most criminal lawyers know fine well that their clients are guilty of the crimes they are accused of, but earn lots of money getting them off, and don’t really care if, as a result, dangerous people are released back into the community
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You asked: I’m asking who else? Do you believe that there is a major government/police/ress/freemason/catholic/capitalist/socialist/PM conspiracy to cover up the McCanns’ guilt? Please please explain the conspiracy theory. Whose conspiracy? Why? These two doctors have no power or influence do they? If so many people believe in their guilt surely the politicians would do better NOT to support the McCanns?
REPLY: Conspiracy? No. Never said it. It all started with the initial cry of ‘abduction’, took off with the McCanns and their relatives and friends contacting major media, then mushroomed, snowballed or ballooned or whatever metaphor you prefer in an unprecedented way - for reasons I don’t understand but perhaps have to do with certain media and government agendas. Ultimately, it is an unfathomable mystery at present and that is what draws us all on to this site, and why it is reported that any newspaper with Madeleine on its front page increases its daily circulation by 30,000. Just amazing. I take the ‘Telegraph’ every day and there’s a big Madeleine story on page 3 today, usually it’s on page 5, 7, 8 or 9, sometimes the front page, nearly always with a picture
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You said: As I’ve said, this seems to me to put us squarely in the absurd world of the fantasy-thriller.
REPLY: Agreed: unless and until there is some information to suggest it, I dismiss all conspiracy theories on this case. The only thing that I’ve seen on these threads that might get close to it is the theory that the McCanns were ’swingers’ and that they or their Tapas 9 associates have some embarrassing photos or something. I’ve seen no convincing evidence for that and don’t really want to go there. The tabloids have exposed large-scale
’swinging’ orgies which take place in posh venues in London and elsewhere and some extraordinary photos have appeared of naked people all over each other in massive orgies attended by up to 200-300 people (’The People’ last year). Personally I find it scarcely believable that people would want to do that sort of thing all evening and night, but clearly it goes on. These days people seem to say ’so what’ to this sort of thing - even if you’re paying two rent boys at a time for sex (former Lib Dem leadership candidate Mark Oaten)
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Maria said: Clarence Mitchell has had to give up his govt. job to be their spokesman. In the very early days hardly anyone doubted the abduction story.
REPLY: So why do you think the doubts have grown so much?
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Maria asked? Why do you doubt that the investigation into the main crime will be satisfactorily pursued?
REPLY: Political interference
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Or is it the questions of the fund and the negligence which are your priorities?
REPLY: We are smothered by a blizzard of Team McCann public relations material which IMO needs to be effectively and authoritatively countered. I expect some people will say this sounds pompous, but I think it will be in the public interest if the McCanns are prosecuted for child neglect, even if they were to be acquitted. You said: “There are many who do exactly what the McCanns did…” I am surprised at you saying this, Maria, as you come over as a kind, caring person who thinks well of others, and, if you have very young children, would never leave them out of your sight for a minute.
Do you not see that allowing the McCanns to go unpunished for leaving three young children under four in an unlocked house for hours whilst they go out eating and drinking - possibly leading to one of them being abducted - sets a terrible example to society? I think there are very few who ‘do what the McCanns did’. And whether there are many (you say) or few (I say), let them all be prosecuted, so that we are reminded, as a supposedly caring society, that little children need looking after and protecting
October 6th, 2007 at 12:27 am
779 Krissie
People who feel depressed and who are in desparate situations do sometimes take their own lives and some of those suicides are preceded by killing their family members first. Her choice of words are eerie. I can understand the sentiment of wishing her current circumstances were ended—who hasn’t felt that way at one time or another, but the article says
““Kate said, “It really isn’t easy,” coping. “Some days are better than others. … There’s days when you think, ‘I can’t do this anymore,’ and you just want to press a button, and we’re all gone, and it’s all finished, and we’re all together and gone. Wherever. But you can’t, you know. Just occasionally you’ll have a — if you’re having a really bad day, which we do. And you can’t help but think that.”
Doesn’t that sound like she’s talking about exactly that kind of ultimate scenario? Just substitute ‘pull a trigger’ for the words ‘press a button’ and you might see my point.
She doesn’t have to be guilty of anything more than the original neglect to feel this way, either.
My comments weren’t meant to cast aspersions on her. I sense that she does feel that desperately unhappy and I worry what that could lead to.
Depressed mothers who end up killing their children often have a friend or relative who will quote something that the mother tells them ahead of time. Instead of paying attention to the warning signals, they were brushed aside as unimportant. Looking back, they realize they should have given more serious attention to what these women were trying to tell them.
The link to entire article the extracted paragraph is from is in post 626 on this forum.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:21 am
There is not one piece of evidence against the Mccanns’. Dna, blood, sedation?? There’s no evidence. Pj twisted many things..See what happened to amaral and the other guy..They screwed up and they know it..Why did the investigator ask for a leave???????? HMMMMM…says a whole lot about them. even Uk forensics admits that the results were twisted by pj…
October 6th, 2007 at 12:17 am
So Mr. Egg Head doesn’t cut it for your either?
October 6th, 2007 at 12:17 am
Now I do have gotta take a leave. Pax to all!
October 6th, 2007 at 12:15 am
I waver back and forth but for the most part I am thinking the opposite of Sophie until we can be shown some “believable evidence” to the contrary.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:15 am
775 JerriLyn Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
In fact why don’t you mail me one of your teeth and I will feed it to my dog and if he poops it out I’ll mail it back to ya C.O.D.
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Brilliant! Post of the day for me. PMSL and it’s gone midnight here so I’d best try stop guffawing or I’ll wake the kids!
October 6th, 2007 at 12:14 am
Hello everyone..So i see things around here have slowed down a bit..I’m starting to really believe they are innocent
October 6th, 2007 at 12:08 am
Maria Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
691 Peter O
The priest who married the McCanns and who baptised Madeleine….. Edit
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Yes of course, I’d forgotton, thanks.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:07 am
There are two Krissie’s - great more confusion.