Madeleine McCann: DNA Jigsaw, Torture And The Twilight Zone
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE DNA PUTS PARENTS IN FRAME. British experts insist their tests are valid”
Page 7: “DNA tests ‘fill in more pictures of jigsaw’” – A source close to the investigation provides the headline quote. But what has been found is unsaid, and how it involves Kate and Gerry McCann
“New police chief is accused of torture” – Chief inspector Tavares Almeida is to face charges of “beating up a robbery suspect in custody”. The Express says this is a “torture scandal”. The alleged victim – who was accused of being part of a gang that sexually abused children and coerced them into violent muggings - was acquitted
Mr Almeida was dubbed “Kate’s Tormenter”, possibly by the Express today
DAILY MAIL page 8: “New DNA tests ‘put the McCanns back under suspicion’”
The McCanns, both “doctors” are said to be “extremely distressed by the claims”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “COPS GAVE UP SEARCH THREE MONTHS AGO”
“Investigation in tatters as second detective accused of violence”
THE SUN front page: “McCANNS’ AGONY – MADDIE: NEW DNA LINK TO KATE”
British forensic scientists “are said to believe tests on fresh clues support earlier findings that led to the McCanns being declared suspects”
Page 4: “McCANNS ‘LIVING IN A TWILIGHT WORLD’”
Clarence Michelle says: “We had reports that DNA had proved ‘inconclusive’ and even it had put the McCanns in the clear.”
Reports from whom is not reported
“Now there are reports that the DNA is making them look suspect. There are wholly innocent explanations for any material police may or may not have found. This just goes to show what a twilight zone we are operating in”
The Twilight Zone – wasn’t that the name of the TV show with the sting in the tail?
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE: NW DNA DAMNS PARENTS. Brit police find shock evidence”
But they have not been arrested. The McCanns are just suspects. How is this damning?
Pages 8 and 9: “MADDIE: SHOCK NEW DNA CLUE TO PARENTS – Boffins say cops on the right trail”
“Torture rap cop” – Tavares Almeida is 48
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 9: “Portuguese police ‘right to focus on McCanns’”
A British source says “Everything that has emerged indicates that the investigation is focusing where it should”
A British detective says the case is being “done back to front” – the parents should have been looked at first. The mantra is: “Clear the ground from under your feet”
THE INDEPENDENT, THE GUARDIAN and THE TIMES: No Madeleine news today
Posted: 9th, October 2007 | In: Madeleine McCann Comments (1,027) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
Comments
- susan jones on Susan Boyle Weeps As The Press Set About Destroying Her
- The Real Stig on The Great Cathay Pacific Blocked Toilet Mystery
- SoDak-GhostDog on Interview With Survior Of James Arthur Ray’s Sedona Sweat Lodge
- Katie Norman on I’m A Celebrity: Joe Bugner’s Career In Pictures
- HOTWATER on Madeleine McCann: The Media Creates A New Maddie Monster And Twists The Facts
October 9th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
It really doesn’t matter what people believe or don’t believe, the evidence will be presented soon enough now. A little patience and all will be revealed.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
640 bc; thea. Who was friendly with who? Do only some of the Tapas 9 need to be bound together? Were all the children in the apartment? Doesn’t anyone in this chat have experience of drugs? What is the effect of coke on memory? When were the Tapas 7 interviewed?
October 9th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
really, if gerry said he could insert a dildo into his rector with no lubrication at all that would really be a revelation
October 9th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
stevo yes of course. i am sorry “abducted” wallet!
October 9th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
So the Priest has known all along.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
wendy, i don’tt believe the other children were in the mccann apartment.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
646 - thea
Alleged stolen wallet…actually his wallet was “abducted”.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
631 - Paulo
Not necessarily. If she submitted an overtime bill, it doesn’t mean she actually did that work does it? Twenty grand is a lot don’t you think? At her daily rate it’s 57 days overtime. That’s a heck of a lot of overtime considering in 4 months there’s only 32 weekend days.
I’d be pissed off with her whether I had an agreement or not. She was taking the piss charging that amount.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Thank you brandonflours. So much time has passed since the publication that at this point this prediction doesn’t look misplaced at all (no speculation looks misplaced any more), as it would have back in July, when the mcCann’s were beyond all suspicion. How to get it to Spudgun now, by the way?
October 9th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
640 (c/o firefox) Not bad bc. Why or how do the Tapas 7 bring Madeleine home? Tapas 7 leave 2 days later (is this the planned date of departure - i.e. nobody stayed on longer to help?). If they are acting as a unit do they share the cost of K and G staying on? How do they bind the other’s besides the OB’s into it? This is the realism, I agree, that to underpin the allegations we read in the papers.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
bc, the theory makes sense until trying to figure out what the other 5 adults know. are they all in on it?
October 9th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
636 Wendy Nilsson
I wouldn’t give this latest PJ theory any more credence than any of the others.
What happened to the sedative overdose - the insufficient sedatives leading to a fall down the stairs - the fatal fall from the sofa - the Kate striking her? Well, you get the picture.
Any theory at all will do so long as you don’t mention the idea of an abduction or the possibility of someone with Portuguese nationality being involved.
Weren’t some of the friends using the babysitting service on the night and others using the child monitor? Surely the Mark Warner nannies are going to blow a small hole in this theory.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
639 - the Real Stig
Gerry has never to my knowledge made any reference by name to Murat.
He did make a general comment alluding to Murat but he’s never said that name in anything I’ve read, seen or heard.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
mystic madge. couldn’t you be both a psychic and a hooker? that definitely has to have award winning tv show written all over it.
imagine if you will: a lot of your clients are “well respected” doctors. these doctors tend to have really bad luck. you help him and his wife conceive. you help one find is stolen wallet. another you assist in locating his missing daughter. yet another doctor you magically give the gift of knowing how to express empathy and love. you assist anothere doctor to triumph overe his alcohol abuse issues. oh wait that would be all the same bad luck doctor.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
How come we ended up with two main threads today:
This one and “Madeleine McCann: The Tapas Group’s Movements On Tape”?
October 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
anyone want to hire me for my Psychic Powers…I can connect you with people on the ‘other side’…
October 9th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
640 - bc
Nice theory. I still think that would be an accident worthy of telling the truth though. They could have hid any recreational drugs and claimed the kids ingested paracetamol etc. Kids wouldn’t know either way.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
gerrymcmander
I got your link to the Youtube video of Madeleine falling up the airplane steps but it wasn’t the one I was talking about. There’s a better video than that with more footage after Madeleine falls.
Thanks for that link though.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
here innocent x
http://www.ukskeptics.com/commentary/2007/07/22/madeleine-mccann-psychic-predictions-and-insights/
This posting was taken from here - (July 21 2007, 6:27 PM )
As Told to Me,in Whispers of Truth and Utmost Sadness.From MADELEINE herself. My name is Madeleine.
I wanted to Play.
Mummy mean to me.
Daddy protected me from Mumsy.
Mummy put prickly things in my arms.
Made me sleepy.
Crying,I am always cranky and crying.
Upset because of Diseases.
Why me,family have to watch me constantly.
So I do not get bruises.
Bruises can Kill me.
I am allergic to the SUN.
I am allergic to Milk.
They took a large Life insurance Policy out on me.
Daddy Took care of Mummys Business.
Daddy looks like Murat.
I played peekaboo with Murat two days earlier.
Outside the Window.
He has problems too like me.
We both can not see correctly.
Murat Good Person Did not hurt me.
Mummy Hurt me.
I am not perfect.
Neither is Mummy.
Mummy knows where I am.
Find me Mummy.
Why did you do this Mummy.
Mummy likes different Daddy’s.
I seen Mummy with Daddy’s.
Mummy wrestle with Daddy’s.
Mummy on top with Daddy’s.
Mummy always yells at me.
I found a new friend.
Rev.Hubbard,my new friend.
Mum did not mean it.
Do’nt Punish my Mummy too Bad.
She did not mean it.
It was an accident.
I was crying too much.
Mummy was on monthly again.
Anger worse.
6:00 pm Mummy sticks prickly things in my arm.
Sleepy,Brother Sister sleepy too.
We all had Sandwich for dinner.
Still want to play.
Mummy said go to sleep.
Pretty dress Mum.
Mum and Dad still cranky.
Dad covers up his ears.
Dad uspset I am crying.
Crying to much.I hurt tummy.
I am not feeling well.
I had a small temperature.
Mum and Dad did not know.
Yes,I had the Flu.
Prisoner in own room.
Sun Hurts Body.
Hurts my eyes also.
Woke up crying,Hot.
No diaper,Messed my Pants.
Mummy angry.
Not feel well.
Parents Gone.
Mummy returned ,Breath smelled funny.
Mummy very angry.
Brother and Sister woke,stayed still,fear.
Shoved up against wall by Mummy.
In the Bathroom.
Mummy mad had to change my bottoms.
And my bed.
I was knocked out cold.
Hit the wall.
Mummy scared.
Mummy put me in Garbage Bag.
Let me sit in darkness.
I was in bathroom.
Another Person came in room.
On of Mummys wrestling partners
Mummy gave the garbage bag with me inside to him.
Said all the diapers and stinky woman things.
Did not know at first what was inside bag.
Never questioned mummy about contents.
He thought I was still in Bathroom.
Mummy told him I was still sick.
Mummy said do not use regular Dumpster.
Go somewhere else,stinks to much.
I suffocated inside this bag.
Please Rev. Hubbard.
Please protect my Mummy.
Mummy did not mean to hurt me.
Went to alley,steps to go with me in garbage bag.
Mummy always wrestles with this man.
I have seen same man at home also.
Mummy watched from balcony.
Hurting but no emotion.
Like a goodbye stare.
Man walks alley to look.
Crosses street to look more.
Carrying me inside garbage bag.
Finds a place to drop me.
felt being tossed into other soft noises.
Man carrying bag tossed me.
I am in a Skip or Dumpster feel movement.
I feel being squished.
A compactor of some kind.
I and currently at a Landfill.
Where all the garbage goes.
I am toward the center.
As seen from above.
I was still alive in garbage bag.
Had hard time breathing.
Like choking sweaty.
Why Mummy do this.
I have new friends now.
I can go out in the Sun.
I can go Play.
I do go and sit on Mummys bed.
Watch her sleep.
Mummy has felt me.
I also sit on Rev.Hubbard bed.
Rev.Hubbard can you help my Mummy.
pleasae help my Mummy.
It was an accident Mummy.
Do not cry no more Mummy.
All will be ok.
Daddy wo’nt leave you.
Why keep fighting as when I was there.
Still Fighting all the Time.
Not in Sun Though.Thats good.
Brother and Sister still play with me.
They can see me.
I will always be with you Mummy
Told Rev.Hubbard that I crossed exactly at the time of this POST,as Confirmation.They know when I Crossed.
Blessings:
Rev.Hubbard.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Carmen, 6.17
Following on from your post, I was wondering - (Just a thought by no means an accusation)
Gerry & Kate love their children but -
If some of the party took ‘recrreational’ drugs. Madeleine and O’Briens daughter get hold of them, ingest them thinking they are sweets. This is discovered only when it is too late to help Madeleine.
Madeline dies and O’Brien makes his child sick so as not to absorbe them. The two couples would then be bound together in a conspiricy of silence.
They cannot call for an ambulance because it is drugs and they are in a foreign country and do not know what the outcome would be so they have to cover up the accident.
Kate & Gerry go for their meal and O’B and Tanner take turns to try to sort things out / stage a break in etc.
Madeleine is moved to their apartment and O’B returns to the tapas bar at 9.55 giving the ‘all clear’ for Kate to do her check at 10pm and find Madeline gone.
The grief is genuine, it was an accident.
A friend in the UK is helpful and calls a TV station. This starts the ball rolling on an unstoppable media circus
They get further and further in (oh what a tangled web etc)
People feel genuinly concerned for them and offer to help, it is natural they would. Gordon Brown is Scottish like them and the Pope is Catholic like them, the other people who help have children of their own and feel for them.
The Tapas seven come home two days later and Madeleine is with them.
Just a theory trying to make sense of the facts.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
578 bulldump
Murat was made a suspect when attention was drawn to him by a female journalist who thought something he said to her, and his strange behaviour, were highly suspicious. His alibi didn’t check out and he seemed to have been misleading about his relationship with Malinka. These are the reasons the PJ made him an arguido - according to the press anyway. Gerry came out publicly and said Murat should be considered by everyone to be innocent unless proven otherwise in court.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Columbus from yesterday:
Stevo Says:
October 8th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
night all…
I thought you were in the US? It’s only 530PM when you typed this…going to bed that soon?? Hmmmm….very odd!
___________________________________________________________
I didn’t say I was going to bed…I said “night all” as I was going out and it was 10:31pm on the anorak time. Nothing odd about it at all…
October 9th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
that shit from the saint is the same old stink against freedom of speech, same old, trying to stop our fun, trying to make us stale and old and weany. what does the saint know anyway, for all we know the child was a mule for drugged out parents and so what if we get off on dirty talk and pretend we care about Madeleine - just so what you friggin saint knows nothing about freedom. we do it cuz we love Madeleine, we talk shit and trash cuz that’s what gets our rocks off and the more that hate it the better….so keep haten and we’ll keep the crap up! LOL
October 9th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
How many people here believe that all the children were left in Kate and Gerry’s apartment that night? If they were, what was the reason? And why has everyone kept quite about it the whole time?
October 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Brandonflours, any chance you might have that UK-skeptics site link? Another thing would be how to post it to Spudgun since he was asking about it the other night and I couldn’t help. Anyway it is a most extraordinary and bluffing vision.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Mikey Hondemburst,
No, silly - look at my name…I am a psychic…or a psychochic…or even a side kick…hmmmm…good weed…I’m hammerin the hollow…mmmm
October 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Anyone recommend any good crime thriller titles? I quite like Patricia Highsmith.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
505 for your perusal,respect for a probably dead child costs nothing………soothsayer Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 7:51 am
morning all,as with all computers they only process the information that is fed to them using programs that have been installed and written by humans also.there are so many discrepencies in the statements of the tapas9 (allegedly),that the computer could throw up any number of scenarios,again any results are interpretated by humans,as they see them.i have seen reports that flatly contradict what is being fed into the computers,the people who will find the answer are the police they have the power and are in a position to know all of the available evidence,leave it to them.
October 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
“I just think her big bill is par for the course in this charade. It would surprise and shock me if one day I read some McCann news that sounded “normal”.”
But they must have signed a contract at the beggining and she must have performed within the terms of the contract or they would not have paid her, would they?
And, the trustees of the Fund would have had to approve the appointment.
And, being professionals, they would know whether the terms and conditions were fair or extortionate or they would not have agreed on the initial work or the final pay off.
So, I guess your grouse is with all of them, isn’t it?
October 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
574 the real stig - fake
Keep it up and I WILL use the abuse link and report you. Anorak knows your IP address no matter how much you play with fake ID’s