Madeleine McCann: Kate McCann Not Busted, Gerry’s Computer And Dead DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
THE SUN front page: “MADDIE SENSATION – COPS SEIZE GERRY’S COMPUTER. Swoop as he says: “She may be dead”
Not Gerry McCann’s home computer, rather one he used while in Portugal
Page 5: “PROBE ON PC” – The computer is said to have been “hired” (the Sun’s quotation marks) by “cardiologist” Gerry. Thrillingly, the computer “could contain correspondence with high-profile supporters such as David Beckham, Sir Richard Branson and JK Rowling”
“Kate’s mum: She’s being persecuted for looking like a waif” – “Waif-like” Kate McCann’s mother Susan Healy hears her daughter tell her: “If I weighed another 2st, had a bigger bosom and looked more maternal people would be more sympathetic”
Can she try?
Says Susan: “She has always had that kind of build and has never carried any weight”
Skinny-mum syndrome (look out for it in the Express)
DAILY MIRROR front page: “KATE HITS OUT”
Page 6: “PERSECUTION OF MY KATE” – “Pencil-thin” Kate is fells persecuted.
Says Susan: “Kate and Gerry are as innocent as you or I”
Well, not you, obviously
Says Susan’s husband Brian: “I have heard nothing yet to convince me that Madeleine is not still alive”
“’MADDY PROBABLY DEAD’” – Says Clarence Mitchell: “Gerry and Kate are realistic enough to know there’s a probability she is dead”
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – PARENTS CAR HID A CORPSE. It was under carpet in boot say police”
“Bodily fluids” have been found in the Renault Scenic used by the McCanns in Portugal. Says a source: “These are bodily fluids that could only come from a corpse. Police are waiting for the results to confirm the identity of the DNA
More DNA. More tests. More talk about DNA tests
Pages 2 and 3: Says a source, they are “innocent. And: “If evidence like this had been found the implications would be serious. Let’s just say they would not be sitting at their home in Leicestershire”
Comments Clarence Mitchell: “We simply cannot comment on unsubstantiated reports”
“She probably IS dead, say parents”. Kate and Gerry are “anguished”. Clarence Mitchell says Kate and Gerry believe Madeleine is “out there and may still be alive”. Or dead
“New hunt for body of Madeleine in massive Wilderness Reservoir” – Police at the Barragem da Bravura
Page 4: “Madeleine mother: People would show more sympathy if I had a bigger bosom”
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE: ‘A BODY WAS IN McCANN CAR BOOT”
Page 9: “CORPSE ‘WAS HIDDEN IN McCANN HIRE CAR – ‘Body is boot’ DNA shocker”
“Poster bid for clues” – The McCanns have launched a new drive to find their daughter. Posters. The letter Os have been turned into Madeleine’s distinctive eye. Brand McCann. Have you see her?
“Sick Maddie gag” – Channel 4’s Bremner, Bird and Fortune made a joke, saying Gordon Brown would find Madeleine on the eve of a general election
DAILY MAIL front page: “KATE McCANN – I’m persecuted for not looking like a mother”
Page 5: “Kate ‘is persecuted for not looking like a typical mother’” – She is not in a typical situation
Says Susan Healy: “she is a very sensitive, caring person and one of the most maternal people I know – she puts me to shame”
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 13: “Parents were naïve to leave Madeleine alone”
Says Susan Healy: Her daughter and son-in-law had acting “out of naivety” in leaving their children alone while they went to dinner
THE TIMES page 13: “Why I’m being persecuted, by Kate McCann”
Not quite the interview the headline alludes to. Just more words on Kate McCann’s slimness
THE INDEPENDENT and THE GUARDIAN: No Madeleine news today
Picture: T-shirt available in sizes 3-4 (scaring the children)
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October 18th, 2007 at 6:45 am
Good Evening from New Zealand,
A bit comotosed here but feel like getting something down. I have a few thoughts swirling around let’s both find out what they are ,…………ok.
I can’t see the preist saying that off his own bat. If he did the Pope and the Papal advisors were behind it. That is pretty damning.
He from all accounts was very troubled about the whole affair but I don’t think that would cause him to imply the McCanns lied in confession. That edict would have come from above. Maybe that is why he seemed troubled. He had just been ordered to break an oath by none other than the main man. By uttering that statement he effectively sold himself. He was the sacrifice to put right the mistake the Vatican made by getting sucked into the spin.
The fact that all the material disappeared off the Vatican website was also a major slight to the McCanns. Not long after the preist got recalled if I remember correctly.
But what made him say he was ‘deceived’.
If they confessed to him and didn’t really do it, he was deceived.
If they said they were innocent but did do it, he was deceived.
So what evidence came to light that made the preist sure that they did or did not do it?
Maybe the real killer confessed to him as well so he knows the McCanns are innocent. Their confession being false.
OR
Maybe it has been proved to the preist early on in the piece that there is very little doubt of their guilt. About the time the Vatican website shut down.
Or maybe he was deceived by thinking they were devout churchgoers when in fact the religeous angle was another spin. A move guaranteed to get the moral majority on side.
Back to my bong. And a Woody 8%.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:19 am
Ade,
Take a deep breath.
Are you alright?
I cannot believe that through the night you posted how suddenly you saw how evil this whole thing was and that you were really scared.
You posted a few times.
Only one or two responded.
Come on guys if that was really Ade, why are we not all dealing with it, instead of harping on something else.
If someone on here is threatened in any way, what do we do?
Speak to me Ade.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:26 am
My investigations tell me that the preist is the fly in the ointment here.
October 18th, 2007 at 5:03 am
THe priest thing is interesting BUT, it would be really important to understand the question just prior to the statement, AND it would be really important to know the Portugese word he used and its various inflections… As a journalist, I can tell you, this is for sure a quote that could be out of context. I would find it really odd if a priest said something that direct — he seems to be saying “the McCanns lied to me” — considering his vows and considering the context of the rest of the story. I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t a case of a reporter trying to get a little bit of attention/name for himself.
Really, the whole problem with what we are doing here is that European journalism is a very shady beast.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:46 am
Cool and Calm 939
You’re right it was David Hopkins.
John Hill was the operations manager.
October 18th, 2007 at 4:05 am
1171
Why the UK press aren’t reporting? Or why is it odd that they aren’t seeking out “inside stories” into all the accounts and the background information of the others there?
1165
Thanks Murder, sorry about the police/priest mix up! Night.
1164
DeeDeeDee, enjoy your show!
October 18th, 2007 at 3:47 am
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matty Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Andy- no news which links into Taybies post- The story of Madeleine missing is worldwide, the press are vultures for a story. The rest of the Tapas have not been reported about, ie Paynes children, age, sex. No report that OBrien/ Tanner child was only 10 mnths old at the time of the trip and reportedly left alone with her sibling. What about the reputation of the great UK gutter press, aren’t they lettting the team down?
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sorry to be broken record, by why?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:45 am
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Andy Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
matty.
The UK press only appear to be reporting what’s said in the Portuguese press. Lazy, lazy journalism. Probably protecting themselves from being on the receiving end of a McCann lawsuit. Bloody cowards. (The press that is.)
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but still, isn’t this behaviour untypical???
Truly don’t get it.
October 18th, 2007 at 3:40 am
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Andy Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Sally.
It’s more a pipe of peace.
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the lad is either two sheets to the wind or two tokes over the line
or maybe both
lord have mercey
October 18th, 2007 at 3:33 am
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Murder Says:
October 18th, 2007 at 3:31 am
Right. Must go to bed.
Times, 18 October:
“General Sir Richard Dannatt, head of the British Army, said that soldiers need to be better prepared for life after death.”
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That’s the stuff of bad dreams.
When and why do they shut this site down?
Seems to be just as I am finally formulating some questions . . . .
October 18th, 2007 at 3:31 am
Right. Must go to bed.
Times, 18 October:
“General Sir Richard Dannatt, head of the British Army, said that soldiers need to be better prepared for life after death.”
October 18th, 2007 at 3:27 am
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Taybie the Saxon Says:
October 17th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
Pinkfan 1073
If you can link me to an example of the press “pursuing” Dianne Webster, David Payne or Matthew Oldfield I would be interested to see it. You’d think there would be at least one investigative journo in the UK who would want to do an expose.
Sorry, thought I was making the same point. Or at least trying to.
Surely there a story not being reported?
October 18th, 2007 at 3:19 am
Wanderer - Police / Priest - easy mistake to make in some contexts…
I mean it’s just two different forms of Law and Order, in a way (apart from sounding almost the same at this time of night).
But if I understand you properly, yes, you’re right, the ‘deception’ (more like ‘disappointment’ in most Romance languages) could in fact mean:
“Yes, I thought they’d agreed to tell the police various things they told me, but they didn’t - though of course I’m not going to say what, even if you may be able to work it out for yourselves.
“This whole things has been very embarrassing for Holy Mother Church, and for the new Law ‘n Order German Pope in particular. He’s not very keen on IVF, preferring the missionary position, and considers infanticide nearly as bad as using condoms in Africa.
“And I also won’t say just how the Vatican got advance notice to remove the links to FindMaddy days before everyone else.”
October 18th, 2007 at 2:59 am
CSI-NY - Night all!!!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:52 am
I made the police/priest mistake another time in the first paragraph of 1160, sorry to anyone trying to make sense of it! I was talking about confessing to the priest.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:51 am
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53176&page=5
The Portuguese news translations - scroll to bottom for today
October 18th, 2007 at 2:51 am
Not the police, too. The priest, too! Ahh, I’m going mad…
October 18th, 2007 at 2:51 am
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Murder, I’ve been thinking about the police too. Let’s say, they confessed to murder…now unless they said they were going to come forward, then I don’t see how they could be lying to the police. Same with if they revealed to him they were keeping something back from that night (which I think is likely).
Now, let’s say….they confessed that they weren’t guilty and just prayed for their daughter, what would make him say they lied to him? How would he get such “information”? From another confession? (if they are guilty) Another member of the Tapas 9 possibly?
Alright, let’s say, they confessed it was an accident but later another member of the Tapas 9 or the police told him it was murder (I don’t see how the police could confirm this).
Maybe he disappeared because he was expecting them to release more information and they never did, so now he has come back unwilling to reveal yet spiteful? Please note that this information could range from not telling the police/public everything or lying to them to murder (a big range of things).
October 18th, 2007 at 2:44 am
That ‘deceived’ - from a priest of the devout Catholic Kate & Gerry’s own religion - seems pretty astounding.
It would be interesting to know what particular Portuguese word he used.
Perhaps it could be translated as something fairly innocuous like ‘Yes, I made a mistake’ (in giving the church keys, and associating the Church too uncritically with a couple later named suspects in an unlawful killing of their daughter).
But on the face of it, it’s like saying: ‘They lied to me’.
Now, lying to priests by devout catholics in extremis, doesn’t look good.
Add it to the list…
This is getting like the Global Warming debate (still theoretically ‘inconclusive’ as the FSS would say), or WMD in Iraq (we never found them, but who can prove they weren’t there?).
October 18th, 2007 at 2:40 am
G’Night Sally - hope your son can get past this this bs.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:39 am
Murder that was priceless!!!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:35 am
Ahh, Esther McVey (who has been involved in the fund), is the same Esther McVey who has a history with CBBC and GMTV. (it seems to be confirmed…however much anything is confirmed in this case). So that could be the “Call the News, my friend is in that area, she works for Sky” link…
October 18th, 2007 at 2:31 am
godnight everyone tis 2.30am and I need my beauty sleep or my face will look like
K .M’s in the morning!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:30 am
“No. You don’t understand. I’m a friend of GERRY McCANN!!!!
“You may not have heard of him yet, but you sure will have in six months time. I mean he’s about to give you thousands of hours of cheap TV and great ratings, meet the Pope, get everyone in parliament to wear embarrassing ribbons, and will probably sign a book and film deal with God - sorry, Rupert - if the megalomaniac plan comes off, and they avoid jail and a ban on making money as the proceeds of a crime”
[Receptionist to colleague sitting next to her:] “Oh god, Charlene, it’s another of those bloody unbalanced drunken nutters. Why do we get so many this time at night” [closes line]
October 18th, 2007 at 2:29 am
The preist saying ‘ I was decieved’
then saying he was looking after his sick mum and performing duties - not running away because the police wanted him for questioning.
Yes - but didn’t the locals and close friends say he was acting like a man in despair and had gone missing without telling anyone in his parish where he was going?
Sounds like either the papers are making up witness statments - or the priest has become too close to the McCanns and has caught the bad lying fever from them!
October 18th, 2007 at 2:28 am
Oh and they said it was a correspondent they got in touch with (from Sky News), so there is always the possibility that they knew this person or the person was a friend of a friend, and when alerting others they got the name. (one would think the correspondent would be knowledgeable of some basic steps to take in the country, how the police worked, etc.)
October 18th, 2007 at 2:27 am
1150
Not claimed that she called (as I said, I don’t remember if they said Kate made the call), but claimed that Sky News was alerted before the police.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:25 am
1146
That is another thing Murder. Who did make that call so soon? Was it Kate? I don’t remember the report, other than it is claimed (and has been claimed for quite sometime) that she called the Sky News before the police. Someone also claimed she declined the offer by the resort or another guest there to make the call to the police for them? So was she the one who ended up calling the police? Maybe one of the Tapas 9 took charge?
October 18th, 2007 at 2:25 am
Let’s look at it this way. Imagine the McCann’s stood in the dock in court, telling a judge or jury about the abductor being in the room, the nappies in the boot and all the rest of it. Ermmm. That gives you a ticket towards a jail cell
October 18th, 2007 at 2:23 am
1125
Murder, I agree that it would be quite easy for the McCanns to dispute the calling Sky News before the police story, I haven’t heard it refuted yet (I’m not saying it hasn’t, as I could have missed it). If it isn’t true and they haven’t refuted it, perhaps with all of the news of the evidence, it’s a bit out of focus for them right now? I don’t know, but I would love to see it refuted. The Spanish newspaper/tabloid it was in also gave us the names of the Tapas 9 didn’t it? I may be wrong about that….but they did claim to have seen the call logs. Who knows at this point.
1133
Kris, with the right cable/satellite set-up you can get Sky. I wonder if they had it at the resort, as it was popular with the British? Not sure about that. Did the McCanns know about the secrecy laws? That is quite important here, because due to those laws, they don’t set-up the automatic alerts like the UK and US would (or so its been reported), so if they knew about that, that may be the motive for calling Sky News so soon.
October 18th, 2007 at 2:22 am
And who said anything about
1: Kate having made the call
2: (some?) ’senior editors’ having taken it?
Receptionist: “Oh, well, good luck in finding the girl. Perhaps she wandered off somewhere? Perhaps you should look outside the apartment for a few minutes before I contact the senior editors to issue a global alert”