Madeleine McCann: When Waiters Attack, Kate McCann Childcare Inc. And Feudal Powers
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – ‘McCANNS OR A FRIEND MUST BE TO BLAME’. Tapas bar waiter’s astonishing attack”
Jose Batista served the McCanns and party on that night Madeleine disappeared. “I did not think she had been taken by an abductor,” says he. “I told them [the police] it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close”
Mr Batista is a “crucial eyewitness”
Page 4: “Nanny would have cost just £10” – Batista is standing with his “partner” Maria Fernandes, who also works at the Ocean Club complex. She does not speak. She smiles for the camera. Why is she there? They are holding hands. He says the Tapas 9 did check on their children regularly: “I know that because I often took food to the table and found one of them not there. I would take it back to the table to heat it up. But it was always the men who went to check never the women.” Apart from the time Kate McCann went to check. So not always the men. Jose thought that strange. Why?
Says he: “They left heir children alone. If I had been in that position I certainly wouldn’t have done that.” Maria smiles
“Kate may be a child carer after ruling out GP work” – But would she make living at it?
THE SUN front page: “MADDIE EXCLUSIVE: WHAT WAITERS SAW. Kate left kids alone 3 hours a night”
It’s Jose Baptista, not to be confused with the Express’s Jose Batista, even if this waiter does look very similar and is seen holding hands with his “wife”, also called Maria
Pages 4 and 5: “The men normally checked on kids..Kate only went that one night”
Kate and Gerry are “doctors”. Says Jose: “They left their children alone for up to three hours every night.” Apart from when they all went out as family, with the “cranky” children
Maria speaks: “I definitely remember Madeleine. She was like a little angel, very quiet and good as gold. Just a lovely little blonde girl.” Blonde, you say?
“CAREER PLANS STILL ON HOLD”
DAILY STAR page 7: “holiday waiter describes horror night girl vanished – MADDIE: ‘ONLY PARENTS OR PALS COULD HAVE DONE IT’” – Jose Batista says…
“Kate wants job in child care”
DAILY MAIL front page: “I want to work in child care says Maddie’s mother”
Page 7: “Kate McCann ‘wants a job in child welfare’” – So it is “claimed”. So she ahs “told friends”
“FRIENDS ‘SHARED EIGHT BOTTLES OF WINE A NIGHT’” – Says Jose Baptista. Yes, eight bottles between nine Britons. On holiday. In the sun. Indeed, is that all?
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 9: “Madeleine’s mother ‘to as GP for a child welfare job’”
“One possibility is that she will set up a charity to raise awareness of the extent of child abductions across Europe, and help parents and children who suffer such an ordeal”
Fernando Jose Pinto Montiero, Portugal’s attorney general, says the country’s Ministerio Publico, likened to the UK’s Crown Prosecution Service, is a “feudal power”
THE INDEPENDENT, THE GUARDIAN, THE TIMES and DAILY MIRROR: No Madeleine news today
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
1033 PinkPanther
Well good luck to you and your crystal balls and whatever other New Age devices or religious books you deal with. Glad to meet your acquaintance…but then you know that already.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Don’t snails just have slime for brains?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
But you know the truth. And it really doesn’t matter here now does it. Not really. Because you will not “see” how you were treated harshly,…..you think it’s the correct way.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 pm
1005 brianthesnail
The last thread before Anorak went AWOL - you said exactly the same tripe and I posted a reply. Have you forgotten already?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 pm
970 momo
I know what you mean. I think Gerry addresses it in his blogs where he says to give out more information about Madeleine may help an abductor.
Like you though, I think they have revealed very little of her character.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
1020…. You know, Julie, that is just too black-and-white thinking for me. Let’s pretend, for a moment, that Kate and Gerry did NOT kill Madeleine and cover it up. (I don’t necessarily believe this is true, but let’s just pretend). Let’s pretend Madeleine was abducted, just for the sake of this argument.
Fine. Madeleine is missing and probably dead because her parents decided to go to the tapas bar and leave the kids sleeping. Stupid. Bad judgment. I agree.
OK, fine. I have two young kids– ages 3 and 4. Sometimes, I run out of the house (let’s say I run out to grab a few apples from the tree) and leave them in the house for a couple minutes by themselves. Or say I decide to leave them in the house while I take a quick shower before we head out for a playdate. During the time I’m in the shower, or getting a few apples, my son decides to climb on a bookcase. The bookcase tumbles down on him, killing him.
How guilty am I?
Do you have no pity for me, whatsoever?
Obviously I should not have left the kids alone. But hindsight is 20/20, isn’t it? what parent is perfect?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
You are wrong Steveo. I know something about you. I know you were treated harshly and unfairly. That I know for certain.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
1021
I think Brain the snail has issues with his parents. He doesn’t speak or has nothing to do with them apparently. Am I right on this Brain?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:36 pm
I’ve done that several days ago. The McCanns went to dinner and they checked on the children along with their friends and the unthinkable happened and Maddie was kidnapped.
But most of you believe then they are the cause of Maddie being (probably by now) dead and they simply aren’t. They left a window of opportunity for this to happen…..but so too does one when a child stands at a bus stop or walks to the corner store etc……….or a parent takes her eyes off a child for a few minutes and someone else grabs her hand….
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
1021 PinkPanther
I had a wonderful childhood. Two great working class parents…military surroundings. I had everything I needed. Wouldn’t have changed a thing.
You know nothing about me and certainly nothing about my childhood.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
1021 ThePinkPanther …. then why aren’t you throwing your judgements down on 80 % of other posters on this site?????????? Myself included????????????
Go “religion-bash” people who need it, not people who are here to support a child who was “let down” by her own parents!
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
1010
sorry to dissapoint you garthy but i am not anyone but myself and have not been here all dayas i have been working..
Now back your abduction theory; what are you talking about 2 independent witnesses? As far as im aware it was one of the mcmonsters party who witnessed mr egg head - if thats who you are refering to..Hardly an independent witness mate. And who was the other “independent” witness..You’re really plucking at straws i think mate.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
…………and what of Robert Murat? who was spotted outside the apartment at around 10.30 by Charlotte Pennington. She is stated as sayuing she definately saw Murat at the time on the evening of May 3rd. Yet he has stated that he was at his mothers house?
Is it not possible that he done his dirty deed and returned to see what he had stirred?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
1008 Stevo
That isn’t a come back, in the sense of a reasoned riposte to my point, it is more of a non sequitur.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Back ! Trying to catch up ! Garth 907 that is an interesting point. Stevo I am with you on the Charge thing.As I said before and you said youself how would you know. Anyway whatever the syndrome and there are so many,It shouldn’t matter . Really Sadgit I don’t believe there was abuse going on. Ian ,wealth and or poverty in my experience has little bearing on good parenting but that’s just me.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
1014 Kris
I agree there’s a world of difference between a kid abused so much that he’s feral and Madeleine being left on her own. But as far as neglect goes, the two are just different levels of the same word - neglect. One is wanton neglect and deliberate abuse, the other is wanton neglect and…if Madeleine was sedated or physically struck - then that is deliberate abuse of a different form.
I keep coming back to the fact that it’s like splitting hairs. The McCanns selfishly decided to put their children’s welfare in jeopardy. At least a feral kid adapts and learns to live with abuse. These middle-class kids would have been terrified to have been left alone. By contrast, a feral kid isn’t scared of being left alone.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:33 pm
1014 kris
What is wrong with you?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Right, Stig. In the USA , anyway, we’ve got (legally speaking) many different kinds of murder. Negligent homicide. Manslaughter. Second-degree murder. First-degree murder. Capital murder. I think rape is rape in a legal sense, but there’s stranger rape, date rape, etc. So yes, there are certainly varying levels of most types of crimes and to think otherwise is black-and-white thinking.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:32 pm
It has nothing to do with reformation. It has to do with the harshness of which you are judging the McCanns without good and convincing evidence. (Newspapers lies - and you know they are lies too.)
So it has to do with your own disposition of being harsh and I believe overly judgmental on this blog - because you were treated harshly in your life, probably in your childhood, and so you assume the stance of the persecutor, the judge with insufficient evidence, and the harsh abuser in a situation that the evidence is very very questionable………
But it makes sense to you, as in the example to Steve I posted……….because you feel this is correct and even perhaps a good thing to do…………and becomes you believe that those that judge harshly are correct - like the mean policeman, of the unreasonable court judge handing down extreme sentences based upon hearsay evidence…..pathetic!
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Kris 1014 …. I’m really sorry but “really incredibly bad judgement” will NEVER, EVER be able to justify what happened to little Madeleine McCann!
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:29 pm
1012 ThePinkPanther
How about explaining properly then? I’m not being disrespectful to you personally. I just don’t go along with old fashioned religious concepts. If someone wants to present an argument why we should forgive the McCanns for leaving those kids and have mercy on them then why not try me?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 pm
1013. Because in their minds, an active and awake child needs constant attention, while a sleeping child does not need this attention. Obviously they were wrong, but I’m sure that is what they were thinking. WHy pay for a babysitter when they are sleeping and we are basically in the backyard and can check on them? Obviously they were stupid to think this way, but this is also obviously what they were thinking.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 pm
1005 brianthesnail
‘There’s a perfectly rational explanation…’
Ok, no problem but JUST GIVE THE EXPLANATION already
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
1010 Garth
There is only one me ffs.
I DON’T THINK YOU ARE DOING ENOUGH TO SUPPORT GERRY AND KATE. PLEASE TRY HARDER TO MAKE EVERYONE SEE WHAT WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND PARENTS THEY ARE.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm
ThePinkPanther …. don’t you have some midnight seance that you’re supposed to attend? You’re becoming a frikkin’ pain in the part I’m sitting on. Go to one of the holy sites and see if you can reform someone there?
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm
953- Ian, I agree it’s absurd for Kate to be talking about working in child care. I wouldn’t let her near my kids. BUT, I still maintain that you, and Julie, are wrong to not see a difference between what the McCanns did, and very real and big cases of child neglect. I”m not saying what they did was right– it was obviously wrong and stupid, even if nothing had happened to Madeleine– but barring evidence there was some kind of other abuse going on, it was simply really incredibly bad judgment.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm
1000 Peter O
I find the most incredible thing the fact that the McCanns did use professional childcare during the day time but chose not to use it at night.
That to me is the craziest thing and it beggars belief. As hard as you try, you cannot fathom that out.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 pm
No, no, Steve, you have it backwards…….as I said each person forgives those that hurt us, and I am not speaking to those that need to be judged by the law. I am talking about those that have suffered, like you have suffered.
But I don’t expect you to understand. Someday you might. But not here and not now.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:25 pm
1007 lunalunera
So you are fully aware of 4 little piggie theory.
October 23rd, 2007 at 9:24 pm
987
Brianthesnail - I think your someone else - Will perhaps?
Have you been on this sit at all today or have you just popped up at this appropriate hour?
Ian
Let stop using the neglect issue to cloud our judgement of the McCanns. And if it makes you feel better, I THINK THEY ARE NEGLECTFUL BASTARDS ASLO./
Now that aside, there is also evidence (as much as you don’t like it) that backs a possible abduction. Forget the DNA evidence (which as yet needs to be confirmed), what about the two independant witnesses that state they saw someone carrying a child? And what about the suspicious person hanging around or trying to look through the shutters of the ground floor apartments?