Madeleine McCann: When Waiters Attack, Kate McCann Childcare Inc. And Feudal Powers
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – ‘McCANNS OR A FRIEND MUST BE TO BLAME’. Tapas bar waiter’s astonishing attack”
Jose Batista served the McCanns and party on that night Madeleine disappeared. “I did not think she had been taken by an abductor,” says he. “I told them [the police] it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close”
Mr Batista is a “crucial eyewitness”
Page 4: “Nanny would have cost just £10” – Batista is standing with his “partner” Maria Fernandes, who also works at the Ocean Club complex. She does not speak. She smiles for the camera. Why is she there? They are holding hands. He says the Tapas 9 did check on their children regularly: “I know that because I often took food to the table and found one of them not there. I would take it back to the table to heat it up. But it was always the men who went to check never the women.” Apart from the time Kate McCann went to check. So not always the men. Jose thought that strange. Why?
Says he: “They left heir children alone. If I had been in that position I certainly wouldn’t have done that.” Maria smiles
“Kate may be a child carer after ruling out GP work” – But would she make living at it?
THE SUN front page: “MADDIE EXCLUSIVE: WHAT WAITERS SAW. Kate left kids alone 3 hours a night”
It’s Jose Baptista, not to be confused with the Express’s Jose Batista, even if this waiter does look very similar and is seen holding hands with his “wife”, also called Maria
Pages 4 and 5: “The men normally checked on kids..Kate only went that one night”
Kate and Gerry are “doctors”. Says Jose: “They left their children alone for up to three hours every night.” Apart from when they all went out as family, with the “cranky” children
Maria speaks: “I definitely remember Madeleine. She was like a little angel, very quiet and good as gold. Just a lovely little blonde girl.” Blonde, you say?
“CAREER PLANS STILL ON HOLD”
DAILY STAR page 7: “holiday waiter describes horror night girl vanished – MADDIE: ‘ONLY PARENTS OR PALS COULD HAVE DONE IT’” – Jose Batista says…
“Kate wants job in child care”
DAILY MAIL front page: “I want to work in child care says Maddie’s mother”
Page 7: “Kate McCann ‘wants a job in child welfare’” – So it is “claimed”. So she ahs “told friends”
“FRIENDS ‘SHARED EIGHT BOTTLES OF WINE A NIGHT’” – Says Jose Baptista. Yes, eight bottles between nine Britons. On holiday. In the sun. Indeed, is that all?
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 9: “Madeleine’s mother ‘to as GP for a child welfare job’”
“One possibility is that she will set up a charity to raise awareness of the extent of child abductions across Europe, and help parents and children who suffer such an ordeal”
Fernando Jose Pinto Montiero, Portugal’s attorney general, says the country’s Ministerio Publico, likened to the UK’s Crown Prosecution Service, is a “feudal power”
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October 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm
361 brandon flours
“I wonder if kate will counsel the kids of the parents who have drowned in portugal trying to save them” ?
No, it does not fit into her child welfare remit.
And that poor girl who fell from the balcony in Majorca. Will the mother be treated so well by the press when they find her?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm
I think this is the correct time to YAWN
thats better, come on liven it up abit
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Mods and Admin
I didn’t deny there is a problem in the UK. Since I live in SE London, I have no choice other than to acknowledge that sad fact on an increasingly regular basis.
However, all British people do not behave like greedy, ignorant free loaders and it is wrong to promote such a stereotype.
Do you really believe we are the only country with problems? Do you really believe we are the only people who behave as Carmen so disparagingly described? Come on…Political correctness is okay, but don’t get carried away.
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Mods and Admin
I think this country does have an astonishing ability to bury its hungover head in the sand.
To the detriment of its youth.
Carmen is entitled to her opinion on the state of the lack of decent behaviour of the British subject when abroad, you are entitled to yours.
But please explain how you have the right to question others for theirs.
I shall add you are not being asked to restrain your views on British behaviour, but you are being asked to control your view that other peoples views are extreme.
Your view on that I am PC??? seriously, where do you get that idea from?
Incidentally the topic is revolving around British behaviour, not that of other nationals
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm
355, Solaris,
Yes, we Brits are real xenophobes.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Dr K McCann……considering an Ambassadorial career in Child Welfare
is close to Dr H Shipman…. being an Ambassador for Help The Aged.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:40 pm
369 Stevo
…and the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe…..
BTW what was the site for the 3 versions of the ‘last’ picture of Madeleine by the pool.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 pm
366 Rosemary
I respect your postings in here but I didn’t understand what you find very offensive about the accurate fact that Madeleine is below the 5th percentile in height and therefore very short for her age.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
349 Sebastian
I don’t understand the point you are making? The police should still have issued a description of the child’s clothes when last seen. They could still have organised an appeal to the abductor. The McCanns had to do these things themselves and THEN were criticised for not leaving everything to the police!! (Amaral etc. mmmmmmmm!)
At the time we were told that the secrecy laws didn’t allow them to describe the pyjamas?????!!!!!!!! I don’t know if it was that or if it was simple common or garden incompetence.
Praia da Luz is a small place but they have Lisbon don’t they? If something happens which is outside your experience or competence, you call in the experts.
Eg. If your GP suspects heart disease, he or she might send you to a cardiologist! (I await responses to that one!)
In any case, even in Portmaio they could have organised the description and appeal. You only need a room and a TV camera.
Sorry! Not being awkward or rude, but I don’t understand what you are saying here?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
365, start
It can’t be Madeleine in the photo, because it was taken after she went missing!
With a hat on, who would know?! That was the point Peter O was making.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
359 Anonymousthe1st
A few years ago around midnight I was in a UK city coming back from a business meeting. I wanted some fast food and parked in the train station car park.
3 drunk girls in their 20s came into the car park all linked with their arms on each other’s shoulders singing and effing and blinding.
They all simultaneously squatted down and did a communal pee as their way of trying to embarrass me. They didn’t hide behind anywhere to do it - they just pulled their knickers down and squatted while laughing and peeing.
That to me sums up the British booze culture.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Hello.
Why Madeleine?
Is Madeleine precious because of her right eye? On the contrary of one can think, Medeleine may not ever be find because of that eye. An eye can be changed. As for Robert Murat: he’s got a glass eye. Murat had connections with jehovah’s witnesses.
Read on Wikipedia an article “pedophilia and Jehovah’s witnesses” Maybe all that circus around the Mccann’s is just an umbrella to make real guiltys more comfortable and less carefull.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Scenario.
Madeleine and her siblings were sedated and put to bed. Madeleine awakens, feeling sickly from the sedation, starts vomiting blood, goes out to the terrace to call for help, climbs up on the balcony to wave her parents down and topples over to her death.
Completely plausible. And the parents, as we all know, cannot accept basic responsibility for their decisions so that explains the spectacular cover-up.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
364, Stevo
I sure she was normal (average) for the UK, but perhaps not in the land of the obese.
I’ll look it up in my “Penelope Leach”
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Rosemary….Interesting pic…i dont think that is Madeleine in the stroller. If you blow up the pic, that child has very dark hair. And is that cuddle cat in Kate’s hand? Would be interesting to find out if that was before or after Madeleine went missing
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pm
360 Rosemary
I’ve pointed out that Madeleine was very short for her age as a matter of fact - not to cause offense.
Madeleine is listed as 90cm on the PJ website. That puts her below the 5th percentile in height.
What is very offensive about this fact?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pm
352 Carmen
wouldn’t say that too often when Will is around mind you
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
350
Stevo
thats me!
I knew about that and its very telling as we know
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
I wonder if kate will counsel the kids of the parents who have drowned in portugal trying to save them ?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
308,
Peter O
“… are there any pictures about of the other children in the party? Would any of them pass for Madeleine if wearing a hat and Madeleine’s clothes? i.e. If you saw the ‘family’ from a distance, would you just assume that the older child was indeed Madeleine?”
This one?
Same age as M, but slightly smaller.
Note, I think all the references (made by others) to Madeleine being small for her age are very offensive. She was a normal sized, very attractive little girl, judging from the photos.
http://www.getrealweekly.com/Images/get%20real_Ed%2019.pdf
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
327 Kitty
I can’t agree with your analysis that Britain does not suffer from a particularly extreme binge drinking culture. I will admit that there is some level of alcohol abuse in other parts of the world (I’ve lived in various countries and travelled extensively), but to say Britain’s no worse is not true (in my experience). Drinking to get legless is a British past-time, and I say that not as some chauvinist continental, but as someone who lived in England between the age of 8 and 21, and abroad for the last 20 years.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:28 pm
336
If the Brits did not take New York from the Dutch you would have Canabis Coffee Shops all over New Amsterdam !! LOL!!
I am Dutch as you have guest and lived until last year 16 years in the UK. I must admit that ‘only some Brits’ can be loud, but the majority are behaving very well. I have also seen Dutch people on holiday being very loud and drunk.
I have good memories of my time in the UK. Was there last week with my daughter spending her Autumn break with our friends. I have not seen anything disturbing in Milton Keynes Town.
If it was up to me I would leave Holland today and go back. Only finances stop me. Britain is simply too expensive for me concerning housing.
But what has all of this to do with The Mc Cann Case? They were behaving well? I normally don’t drink a lot, but on holiday I intend to drink a bottle of wine away easily with a dinner.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
In the womanshour interview 3.25-4.30 mins.
First it was a normal day then it was the best day ever. If it was the best day ever then she would have asked Madeleine why and would have relayed this to the interviewer……Contradictory……
Then the classic finish where a mother takes FOUR seconds to remember whether her daughter was asleep or not when they went out. Simply priceless…………….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/01/2007_32_wed.shtml
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
335 Rosemary Says:
The photo was taken after Madeleine went missing.
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What photo? Surely you don’t mean the “last photo”? Or, did you mean to say “before” Madeleine went missing?
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pm
258 Ferdinand
I don’t find the wine anything to write home about. Like you say, 6, 8 or even 14 between 9 people isn’t a big deal.
What is a big deal though is if they had been drinking all day. Maybe Gerry was lucid as he’d been playing tennis. What about Kate though? We already know she liked to party.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I agree with Kitty - there’s no need for xenophobic remarks against the british or any other nationality.
Having said that… I think Kitty you are naive if you ignore the deep xenophobic underlying the case of madeleine mccann.
What does surprise me is that british public opinion is so easily drawn into those same xenophobic stereotypical exercises that Kitty seems to condemn in Carmen.
The tabloid campaign against portugal and portuguese institutions is deeply xenophobic. The remarks from McCanns family members, so-called journalists, so-called detectives and cops in Britain has been insulting to the portuguese, to the PJ and to anyone with a 1/4 of a brain.
What does surprise me is that public opinion in Britain find it normal that killing an innocent brazilian, mis-leading an enquire and public opinion, doctoring pictures to make Menezes look like a terrorist, are all seen by the british public as standard police procedures. What would concern if I lived in Britain is that the same british police force who occasionally seems to be portrayed as “beyond reproach”, remains unable to catch a 16-year old that shot dead Rhys Jones and escaped in a bycicle. Moreover, the same police force that is amongst the “best in the world” as Lord Steven would say is unable to stop an average 1 shooting every 2 days of children under 16.
What does surprise me is that no one seems to question in public why an un-elected British prime minister, comes to a european summit to talk to the portuguese prime minister about a child abduction case, why high ranking public officials paid with tax payers money were put to the service of two suspects in a criminal investigation.
Let us not dismiss the deeply entrenched xenophobic nature of british institutions in this case. It’s something we all have to live with for some time to come. At least until this case is closed.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 pm
I am reading one of her books wow that is interesting, but of course first they have to find the skeleton, does this mean that they could draw some bone marrow from the twins and see if there is a sedative in it
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
I have also wondered if Madeleine went missing before they actually announced she was missing. They have her eating dinner at the creche with staff AND with her family that day. When was the last time anyone other than the Mccanns and friends saw her? I would think they would have a sign in and out procedure at the creche? How much time did Kate and Gerry actually spend with their kids on this Holiday? Sounds like they spend ALOT of time at that creche….If they wanted an adult Holiday, why did they bother to take the kids?
That one pic of Kate and Gerry and 3 children, 2 in the stroller, does not look like Madeleine at all, hair too dark, and why would you make the twin walk?
I still think we will all be shocked if and when we find out all that happen that last day.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
327 - Carmen - We do have a very serious drink problem in the UK and it comes down to one thing. Parental responsibility.
Responsible parents do not allow their children and children’s friends to drink.
On one of those chat shows recently there was a boy of 14 addmitted to being an alcoholic. His mother had the gall to say “we only gave him the odd beer now and again”.
When asked from what age she said 9.
The Government could partially orrect the problem by imposing a ban on under age drinking instead of just underage buying, and making it an offence for an adult to provide alcohol to anyone under the age of 18.
Mods and Admin, there is no yob culture in football in this country anymore. Most of the trouble at away games in foreign countries is as a result of heavy handed police.
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Ok, Good Morning America is on talking about Madeleine.
the author Patricia Cornwell says that the cops should be looking at “Forensic Linguistics. Apparently this is a branch of forensics devoted to analysing statements. She referred to several of Kate’s comments throughout the past 6 months in interviews.
Also they said a chronic use of sedatives can be found in skeletonised remains. Bones will have traces of sedative use.
Interesting!
October 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pm
304 Maria
we’re talking about a small place in a country with the lowest crime rates