Madeleine McCann: When Waiters Attack, Kate McCann Childcare Inc. And Feudal Powers
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – ‘McCANNS OR A FRIEND MUST BE TO BLAME’. Tapas bar waiter’s astonishing attack”
Jose Batista served the McCanns and party on that night Madeleine disappeared. “I did not think she had been taken by an abductor,” says he. “I told them [the police] it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close”
Mr Batista is a “crucial eyewitness”
Page 4: “Nanny would have cost just £10” – Batista is standing with his “partner” Maria Fernandes, who also works at the Ocean Club complex. She does not speak. She smiles for the camera. Why is she there? They are holding hands. He says the Tapas 9 did check on their children regularly: “I know that because I often took food to the table and found one of them not there. I would take it back to the table to heat it up. But it was always the men who went to check never the women.” Apart from the time Kate McCann went to check. So not always the men. Jose thought that strange. Why?
Says he: “They left heir children alone. If I had been in that position I certainly wouldn’t have done that.” Maria smiles
“Kate may be a child carer after ruling out GP work” – But would she make living at it?
THE SUN front page: “MADDIE EXCLUSIVE: WHAT WAITERS SAW. Kate left kids alone 3 hours a night”
It’s Jose Baptista, not to be confused with the Express’s Jose Batista, even if this waiter does look very similar and is seen holding hands with his “wife”, also called Maria
Pages 4 and 5: “The men normally checked on kids..Kate only went that one night”
Kate and Gerry are “doctors”. Says Jose: “They left their children alone for up to three hours every night.” Apart from when they all went out as family, with the “cranky” children
Maria speaks: “I definitely remember Madeleine. She was like a little angel, very quiet and good as gold. Just a lovely little blonde girl.” Blonde, you say?
“CAREER PLANS STILL ON HOLD”
DAILY STAR page 7: “holiday waiter describes horror night girl vanished – MADDIE: ‘ONLY PARENTS OR PALS COULD HAVE DONE IT’” – Jose Batista says…
“Kate wants job in child care”
DAILY MAIL front page: “I want to work in child care says Maddie’s mother”
Page 7: “Kate McCann ‘wants a job in child welfare’” – So it is “claimed”. So she ahs “told friends”
“FRIENDS ‘SHARED EIGHT BOTTLES OF WINE A NIGHT’” – Says Jose Baptista. Yes, eight bottles between nine Britons. On holiday. In the sun. Indeed, is that all?
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 9: “Madeleine’s mother ‘to as GP for a child welfare job’”
“One possibility is that she will set up a charity to raise awareness of the extent of child abductions across Europe, and help parents and children who suffer such an ordeal”
Fernando Jose Pinto Montiero, Portugal’s attorney general, says the country’s Ministerio Publico, likened to the UK’s Crown Prosecution Service, is a “feudal power”
THE INDEPENDENT, THE GUARDIAN, THE TIMES and DAILY MIRROR: No Madeleine news today
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October 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pm
421
I hadn’t thought about that. It is taking them a long time to publish the test results. From both sides, I mean.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pm
THE CASE OF THE DOUBLE BRIAN KENNEDY
FORMER HEAD-TEACHER?
WEALTHY MAGNATE?
BOTH?
Stevo,
I have asked about the Brian Kennedy identity thing too.
What’s odd is that AFTER the giver Brian Kennedy was introduced, the “receiver” Brian Kennedy (eligible to receive funds if other directors vote so) disappeared from sight. Previously he had been frequently quoted as “a family spokesman”.
On YouTube someone in answer posted a tabloid quote that supposedly stated that these two men are NOT the same. But I find it hard to believe. That person claimed that all Brits know this — and yet you are a Brit and are asking…
I feel they are the same person, and the “donation” will be replenished from the “Search” fund.
Can someone prove my suspicion wrong?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Michael,
I see you are new here - as our doyen, Brandon Flours, says - the gang here instinctively know lies from the truth, and right from wrong - the only real puzzle left is why they are not heading up police departments around the world
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm
431, Peter O,
No she is not Maddy.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
421 stevo
I never thought about that. Could be though, I mean it is rather strange that the test results are still so secret.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
429, Michael
Didnt you see who Lord Stevens is?
Anyway, he also has no (legal) access to the evidence.
Also, I have always found people - ordinary people - with a little common sense much cleverer than many of these so called experts. Dont forget they get to positions of power and regard through many means, standing on others shoulders, the old pals act (very big in UK) etc.
Love your innocent trust, but dont think you should be debating here - did you get out of the creche?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:29 pm
we just know a pair of lying bastards when we see some
and a fool
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm
360 Rosemary Says:
308 Peter O
“… are there any pictures about of the other children in the party? Edit…
This one?
Same age as M, but slightly smaller.
Note, I think all the references (made by others) to Madeleine being small for her age are very offensive. She was a normal sized, very attractive little girl, judging from the photos.
http://www.getrealweekly.com/Images/get%20real_Ed%2019.pdf
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Sorry.. are you saying that the older child in the buggy is NOT Madeleine? At first glance I would defy anybody to know that wasn’t Madeleine, if indeed it isn’t.
Re Madeleine’s size… My son is much the same age as Madeleine would be now. All the children in is his class cover a large range of sizes. Average means just that, average. It is not some kind of ‘ideal’ that all children should be expected to attain. So, “smaller than average” means just that, smaller than the average size who are in turn smaller than the largest size.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Why is it that the British press have waiters making ‘astonishing’ claims, but we have ‘friends of the Mccanns’ proving stuff?
A waiter who will no doubt know a lot more than most about that night tells us that he thinks its the Mccanns and/or their friends - this is ‘astonishing’ apprently.
The Mccanns get a bit of hair tested 5 months after an allegation of sedation (just thought, they cant give an explanation of inconsistances because of ‘Portuguese secrecy laws’ but they can have these tests done?!!) and this ‘proves’ the twins werent sedated on and before 3rd May.
Im so sick of (and staggered by) by the incredible bias of the media, especially Sky and the Daily Mail actually. I knew the media was suspect, but boy, they are unbelievable. Presumably this is the result of the removal of press freedom, the purchasing by ‘moguls’ and the provision of laws for individual protection which heavily favour those with money?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pm
http://sport.scotsman.com/football.cfm?id=1689812007
I had to look at this twice
I thought she opened her big mouth again
refering to the nights out on holiday
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:24 pm
400, Stevo,
I imagine, fully grown, she would have been 5ft 6′ (168cm) - average.
What is sick is that there have been some people suggesting she had
charge syndrome or Turner’s.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Is speculating that MM may suffer from a genetic disorder not in questionable taste -
Stevo, I recall how upset you were that somebody had abused, or at least dissed (if that is the right expression) your daughter on-line (though it was never clear whether your daughter was reading this forum with you and it was she who was upset, or whether it was you as the dad who was aggreived by the remark .
I do not mean to be critical, but where is this line of enquiry leading?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm
It is pathetic and an insult to Madeleine in that some of the posters on these Anorak sites have more logical theories than the professionals who are supposedly experts.
There have so many twists and turns in this case it will never be sorted out.
Whether guilty or innocent The McCann’s have not held true to their promise of investigating what happened to their daughter.
It has always been about them. This alone leads to suspicion. They have been on the defensive since day one. The Gov’t and its branches on down would love this to go away.
Unfortunately it is an ugly mess which they have to clean up. It will be done. No one will be convicted and that will be because of the great big cover up. Madeline is a victim of an abduction. Or Madeleine was accidently killed. It doesn’t matter. She will not receive justice anyway.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
403 Ferdinand
Cant do that, it would be rejected if it didnt include abduction or in any way challenged their holy self’s.
Mind you, they do believe in an all powerful deity who does this kind of stuff all the time and then gets everyone thanking him for it - so nothing can really be ‘ludicrous’ can it?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Stevo 407,
I only dip into these discussions once in a while, so have missed this stuff about possible health conditions. Do you know if the eye is associated at all with this Turner’s syndrome? (One thing about the height that might mitigate it a bit - assuming the PJ number is correct, she was not quite 4, and I would assume the statistics are for 4 years and 6 months maybe?) Has there been any other info possibly indicating autism? Do we know if she is/was verbally normal for example? Interesting…….
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Be back later…errands
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pm
415 Ferdinand
Interestingly, I wonder if perhaps the DNA evidence would tell the PJ if Madeleine had a genetic disorder?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pm
311 Stevo Says:
I’m playing catch-up with the postings but wanted to mention I’d seen the Channel 4 show via Pam Watsons http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk website. Thanks for offering to send a DVD though.
I thought the documentary was very poor. Edit….
What did you think of it?
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You’re most welcome. Glad you caught up with the ‘documentary’
What did I think of it? Probably not worth the postage it was going to cost me to send you the DVD to the US!
As I said a few days ago. I thought it was a fairly ‘low rent’ affair. As you’ve pointed out elsewhere, the scene where the former British police office casually wanders into the Ocean Village Reception unannounced and asks if he and his friends can have a look around is priceless! For anyone that hasn’t seen the program, they were unsurprisingly declined their request. That just about sums up how close this program was to ‘investigative journalism’.
I’ve made some notes about the program, if I get time I may post here. It wasn’t all bad, no new astonishing facts, just pretty much the same kind of ruminating that goes on in here except without the extremes of position/opinion that the pro and anti McCann camps can muster in here.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
408 thanks Stevo
409 Kitty, fair enough it’s only my opinion too….
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
415 Ferdinand
Turner’s Syndrome isn’t a disease. It’s a genetic defect.
It can have some bad behavioural traits such as continual crying and some autistic like characteristics. In simple terms, some Turner’s children can be difficult to raise/control.
By the way, I am describing Turner’s characteristics from first hand experience. I AM NOT claiming Madeleine had any syndrome because without blood tests we can’t know.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Harry H-S
Thank you for introducing the voice of reason.
It is about where you live, and also about where you go on holiday.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm
413 Harry Hind Sight
It’s down to money or affluence again. If you live in a picturesque English village far enough away from dodgy council estates, you’ll probably never have a problem. I used to live in a nice village but because it was only 15 minutes off the A1, the village were always prey to gangs who’d come up and down the A1 specifically targetting places because they could get in and out quick.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:12 pm
407
Stevo Says:
“Turner’s Syndrome.”
It’s some kind of mild genetic disease. So what would be your point?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pm
411 Sherlock
In the words of the McCann team, I think they should PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Blimey, I know that old Blighty is not without the odd problem - but surely some perspective is a called for .
Where I lived (in a village outside London) is very pleasant and virtually trouble free, do the point of being somewhat boring- the problem with booze/crime etc is largely a question of where you live and how over excited you get about it - always has been I suspect.
As for children drinking, proud say that I have eased mine older ones into it, from 10 years old, with the odd sip - responsible parenting dare I say it
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pm
361
The Mcdidits will be bricking it at the thought of frogmen paddling around off the coast of Portugal.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Did anyone elaborate on the claim that the twins were not sedated?
Did any reputable lab ever publish the results of any tests? It sounds too conclusive a statement to suggest that the twins were not sedated.
Any reputable and professional lab to produce this statement would need:
a) complete reassurance that the twins’ hair was not trimmed in the last 5 months (difficult to get from anyone other than the parents who incidentally are suspects)
b) an exhaustive list of detectable substances that were not found in the body
Can anyone give me a link to the official lab who conducted the tests?
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm
399. Sherlock.
“For his other inquiry, into football corruption, Stevens is using the private investigation company Quest, of which he is chairman, to carry out the work for an estimated £900,000.”
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm
anonymousthe1st
I do appreciate your point, and sometimes feel thoroughly ashamed to be British. When I hear about excruciatingly bad behaviour such as you witnessed, or when an English person can’t even spell the name of a leading (albeit late) QC whose name he/she claims to share, it makes me cringe.
However, bad behaviour (alcohol related or otherwise) really does happen in most countries, and it seems to me that whilst the world has gone mad with political correctnesss, Britain and more specifically England is still fair game. I just don’t think its on, but hey, it is only my opinion and doesn’t matter at all.
October 23rd, 2007 at 2:06 pm
404 Anonymousthe1st
Here’s the 3rd pic: http://anorak.smugmug.com/photos/209776327-M.jpg