Madeleine McCann: A Titanic Struggle With The Germans And Slavery In Morocco
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “IS MADELEINE A CHILD SLAVE IN MOROCCO?”
“Madeleine McCann may have been condemned to a life of slavery working as a ‘little maid’ for a rich Arab family…” Or not
Page 5: “’Madeleine will be used as a little maid’” – so suggests Inspector Hicham Alaoui of the Moroccan Police in El Hajeb near Fez
Little maids, notes the paper, are “collected by rich families as ‘curiosities’ as well as servants. A woman from a group called Ecpatuk says such children are “vulnerable to abuse”. The Express sys the girls are abused “physically, emotionally and sexually”. Can Madeleine McCann be among them? Maybe…
“Sacked detective called in to help with the probe” – Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral is talking with new chief Paulo Rebelo
“Fury over magazine ‘sick’ ads” – German magazine titanic has lampooned the case, using Madeleine’s image in spoof supermarket adverts. Gerry and Kate McCann call it “sick” and “very hurtful”. The magazine says Madeleine McCann is “getting a bit much for many people”
DAILY MIRROR front page: “Clear us… you have no case”
Says a friend of Kate and Gerry McCann: “They are adamant they should now be cleared”, as are many suspects in ongoing investigations
Page 7: “McCann ‘clear us’ demand’” – Says Clarence Mitchell: “If the reports are true clearly it would indicate the police absolutely, and quite rightly, have no case against Kate and Gerry”
DAILY MAIL front page: “Oh. Come off it, Heather, how dare you compare your ordeal to Kate McCann’s?” Heather Mills is on the telly
Page 7: “Police pursuit of McCanns ‘is running out of steam’” – The public prosecutor in Portugal says Kate and Gerry McCann will not face further police interviews “unless detectives can produce stronger evidence against them”
Mark Williams-Thomas, a former detective with Surrey Police, says the McCann’s private detectives could be on the wrong trail in Morocco. Or not
THE SUN page 24: “GERMAN MAG’S SICK JOKES ABOUT MADDIE – McCanns’ horror as spoof ad pokes fun at lost girl”
Ad advert in satirical Titantic magazine promises the kitchen cleaner will “remove all traces at the home” even DNA traces. The adverts warn that just because Madeleine’s face is on the product it does not mean they can be taken for free. The Sun is disgusted. It reproduces the images and the words to allow its readers to share in its disgust
A march on the German embassy is not yet in the planning
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE SICK NEW TWIST – Horror at German abuse of missing tot”
The Germans have her. A German paedo!
Page 7: “TOTALLY SICK – A full reproduction of the spoof adverts. “McCann’s agony as rag mocks hunt for Maddie.” Thanks to the Star and Sun, the McCanns now know that an obscure German magazines has made jokes about their case
Says Clarence Mitchell: “It shows Madeleine herself no respect… The magazine did not seek permission to use Madeleine’s image to be used on this so-called joke. It they had it would almost certainly not have been given”
So much for doing anything to keep Madeleine in the news
THE INDEPENDENT page 5: “Mills: I am treated as badly as Kate McCann and Diana.” More on Lady Mucca
THE TELEGRAPH page 9: “Madeleine police ‘consult sacked head of inquiry’” – chief inspector Goncalo Amaral is on the case. Sort of
The paper says detectives are “no closer to solving the case”. And the campaign to find Madeleine goes on…
THE TIMES and THE GUARDIAN: No Madeleine news today
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November 2nd, 2007 at 12:06 am
1252 Ian
The logic of not using the creche at night? They felt their children needed to sleep. They didn’t want them up till all hours even in a creche. I bet far fewer people used the late evening creche service than the daytime one.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 am
Karen - they didnt leave the door open they left it unlocked
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 am
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Can’t say No Says:
November 1st, 2007 at 6:23 pm
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Judith C
I don’t know if it’s a mine. I only know, from a very true source
a) They know what hapened in Huelva
b) They know - the dangerous relations that the Mccans have
For know , this is the only thing i can remember.
IT’S TIME TO MAKE JUSTICE TO MADELEINE
Are we going to allow , this horrendus murder , stays unpunished ????
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Anyone else know about “dangerous relations.”? Maybe Tapas 7 been WARNED OFF. That explain a lot. Yes, would like you all have nice long think about this. Buenos noches.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 am
1287 clouseau
yep probably not maddie. It would have been fun to break the news of the beach discovery to the fragrant pair live on camera and watch the body language ha ha
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 am
Real Stig
In the UK it is classified as neglect to leave very young children in such a situation. It is there in the literature of NSPCC and all of the county social services - you may not necessarily end up in court etc but it is still seen as poor practice. A GP as much as social worker will be aware of this. To deny this is to fly in the face of current best practice especially since the Every Child Matters legislation came in.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 am
1278
“IMHO, possibly retracted because they are now feeling guilty they didn’t try to intervene given subsequent events.”
Liked your post but just one point - the woman categorically denied ever having said this and blamed wait for it Portugese press for creating the story!
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 am
1285 your opinion, I think its totally outrageous to leave three little ones like they did - despite being critised earlier for being on here at all I still wouldnt leave my kids even npw all alone in a room and do out, especially not in a foreign country and when we are all supposed to be on holiday.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:02 am
I believe the waiter that said Kate didn’t ever check on the kids until the one time she found Madeleine missing.
I don’t buy the “15 minutes of fame” line trying to disparage the waiter’s memory.
It’s interesting that people will try to disparage him, rather than the McCanns–when on balance, they have much, much more to gain by lying.
It really sounds as if the McCanns did not put a lot of brain cells into, or rather didn’t have time to put a lot of logic into, engineering their alibis for that night.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 am
Kris stop fidgeting, I’m not ready to fall off our fence yet
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 am
1281 Although I dont think its any of your business as I have not neglected my kids and lost one of them, I have to respond to your post as its illogical.
Take a look at the times I’m here and the lengths of posts. I have been with my kids most of tonight, for example.
Note also that Im not on holiday!
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:00 am
1280 stiggy
no offence but you are talking absolute bollocks again……
November 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Alright, from a fans perspective - what is so appealing about the McCanns? I don’t get it.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pm
ade
was quite interesting when you first posted the beach girl nobody seemed interested…..probably not maddy but we will know soon i guess
November 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pm
1229 Ian Says:
1222 Peter. Agree on your point about ‘leaving the kids alone’. Could be that they are saying that to cover something worse!
However I suspect they did, as there was talk of the kids crying on previous nights and complaints to the Mark Warner management. Edit….
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Even so… Keep an open mind about ‘which’ children may have been left in the apartment(s).
November 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Careless child minding! I like that ! I’ve been trying to make a distinction between “real” neglect and this particular case of “neglect,” and I much prefer this phrase– Careless Child Minding. That is precisely what happened. Not neglect.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Stig
They left the door open! How can that not be a greater risk than driving carefully?
November 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pm
1262 We have Walmart, they bought Asda and are all over the place.
Did Gerry go anywhere neare where she was found?
Frankly I agree with you, its a very big world. It does, however, emphasise the over blown response to Madeleine (tragic though any child being harmed is) and is one of the reasons that the Mccanns have generated some negativity (there are of course many other reasons).
November 1st, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Sandra - how come you stayed on the site - I thought you thought we were all disgusting?
November 1st, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Ian For a working dad who likes to spend time with his kids you sure as hell spend a lot of time on this forum. You are one of the resident features, but if you consider spending time with your kids in a geographical sense ie. everyone ploned in front of gogglebox while dad plays on internet forum day in day out well then … make up your own mind on that one.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pm
1220 Sandra
“It wasnt child neglect. It was careless child minding but not neglect.”
I completely agree with you. I have argued this myself many times. I often liken it to taking your children somewhere in a car and there being a fatal accident, and on e of your children is killed.
Car travel involves risk - of a far greater magnitude than what the McCanns did. I have also said they were extremely unlucky in that something did happen.
Ian was challenging me on my position.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pm
1267
not being funny but you know tesco is not a brand as such, its a supermarket?
November 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pm
1229
Ian Says:
‘leaving the kids alone’.
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From what I can gatherer on the web the following IMHO represents the evening child minding situation leading up to the night of May 3rd.
The first couple of nights the adults and children go out to dinner at a restaurant but it doesn’t work too well. The kids get tired and fractious and no doubt annoy other diners making the Mc group uncomfortable. All the kids are no doubt tired and in a bad mood the next day. Not much fun for anyone. According to some accounts the restaurant discouraged the presence of children in the restaurant.
On the third night onwards the group pulls off a special arrangement to get a dining table in the Tapas bar. This enables them to leave the children in the units rather than have the kids up late with them when they eat / drink. Quite a coup since other diners had to queue to be seated. It is as close as they can get to their units even if line of sight is not the best. Descriptions of distances from the Tapas bar to the Mc’s apartment vary. There is much debate about this. It’s not too far away so they can pop back easily to check up for each other every now and again.
According to GM’s entry in “Friends Reunited” Maddie has a great pair of lungs.
There were some initial reports of crying coming from the Mc’s unit. The reports variously cover one or more days. It appears one of the neighbor(s) who originally made comments about the crying “for daddy” till late has since retracted their statements. IMHO, possibly retracted because they are now feeling guilty they didn’t try to intervene given subsequent events. (Some threads on the newspapers web pages about crying seem to have “gone away”).
According to one account the Mc’s group was well behaved. Not sure if this is from the restaurant or the Tapas bar. Other accounts from staff at the apas bar indicate that one of the men was always getting up and going off to check the kids. They specifically say the men were doing the checking except for the check around 10:00 on the 3rd by KM. A waiter, Baptista I think, claimed the checks were frequent. Accounts form the waiter of exactly who checked what and when on the earlier nights and on the 3rd are not clear.
If the “since retracted” reports of crying are to be believed then some questions need to be asked about what the people checking up did to comfort the crying children, read Maddie. It appears the crying went on till quite late on least one occasion according to one of the earlier reports. Were the check ups actually occurring or was the waiter mistaken? If a child was crying wouldn’t you do something about it if you knew? Surely if one parent was checking and heard someone else’s child crying you would assume they would say as much when they got back to the table.
If there was crying coming from the Mc’s unit before the 3rd May it tends to indicate that Madeleine had not been sedated prior to the 3rd, or if so, the dose has not been sufficient to quieten her.
Can anyone confirm this view?
November 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pm
1269- Ian- sorry, I really don’t know what planet you’re on, on this one! I think it’s quite common for dads to take little interest in their kids — a subject of much literature and psychological evaluation. And I think it’s not at all unusual for parents to take kids on holiday and only want to spend PART of their time with the kids. I love my kids but when we go on a family vacation I do not necessarily want to spend every single moment with them. That is not evil, or weird, or unusual, or anything…
November 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pm
Ian
Sorry. Site went mad for a time and i couldn’t post again for a while. Thank you for your reply. I am reassured!
Joe
Thank you!
Peter O
Of course you should comment!
I can’t see G and K admitting to what one poster has called “careless child minding” (good description) unless they had done this. Why on earth would they?! Some reports, eg. waiter, indicate their checks were more frequent than every 30 minutes but, other than that, there seems to be general agreement on their dining/child minding arrangements.
I really can’t see how anyone could possibly have come up with the daft idea that all the children were left together in one apartment. Sounds pretty incredible to me. Can’t see any point in it. There were insufficient beds. None of them would have slept. etc. etc. etc.
Will try to post this and hope for the best!
November 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pm
texas beach girl has been dead a couple of weeks - probably not maddy.
It’s about 5000 miles from Portugal to Galveston. That’s 900 miles a month - 30 miles a day. A box could float that far quite esaily.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:53 pm
I think that John Stalker understands that there is probably some secret shared by some of the group that is worth keeping schtum about. God love him he may now be an old fogey only fit for dodgey adverts but I think he recognises that there is something not right going on.
The media does not looks critically at the parents’ actions and reporting seems to take the form of a complicated and courtly Renaissance dance with everyone tippy-toeing around the edge coyly (possibly afraid to be sued) rather than deal with any anomalies in a forthright manner.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Ian 1257
Sorry I didnt get time to introduce myself to you formally - Its just that I am still trying to sift through that crock of shit you posted earlier. Grammar and spelling not taught at your school? Actually I give up its not worth the effort.
November 1st, 2007 at 11:52 pm
Yeah, Cherokee is definitely a Target label, right?
November 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pm
http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stories/110107kvuedeadgirlfolo-cb.1ca1fc213.html
says here cherokee label
November 1st, 2007 at 11:51 pm
well, my sympathies to you. Walmart Takes Over World. There’s a headline for you.