Madeleine McCann: A Titanic Struggle With The Germans And Slavery In Morocco
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “IS MADELEINE A CHILD SLAVE IN MOROCCO?”
“Madeleine McCann may have been condemned to a life of slavery working as a ‘little maid’ for a rich Arab family…” Or not
Page 5: “’Madeleine will be used as a little maid’” – so suggests Inspector Hicham Alaoui of the Moroccan Police in El Hajeb near Fez
Little maids, notes the paper, are “collected by rich families as ‘curiosities’ as well as servants. A woman from a group called Ecpatuk says such children are “vulnerable to abuse”. The Express sys the girls are abused “physically, emotionally and sexually”. Can Madeleine McCann be among them? Maybe…
“Sacked detective called in to help with the probe” – Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral is talking with new chief Paulo Rebelo
“Fury over magazine ‘sick’ ads” – German magazine titanic has lampooned the case, using Madeleine’s image in spoof supermarket adverts. Gerry and Kate McCann call it “sick” and “very hurtful”. The magazine says Madeleine McCann is “getting a bit much for many people”
DAILY MIRROR front page: “Clear us… you have no case”
Says a friend of Kate and Gerry McCann: “They are adamant they should now be cleared”, as are many suspects in ongoing investigations
Page 7: “McCann ‘clear us’ demand’” – Says Clarence Mitchell: “If the reports are true clearly it would indicate the police absolutely, and quite rightly, have no case against Kate and Gerry”
DAILY MAIL front page: “Oh. Come off it, Heather, how dare you compare your ordeal to Kate McCann’s?” Heather Mills is on the telly
Page 7: “Police pursuit of McCanns ‘is running out of steam’” – The public prosecutor in Portugal says Kate and Gerry McCann will not face further police interviews “unless detectives can produce stronger evidence against them”
Mark Williams-Thomas, a former detective with Surrey Police, says the McCann’s private detectives could be on the wrong trail in Morocco. Or not
THE SUN page 24: “GERMAN MAG’S SICK JOKES ABOUT MADDIE – McCanns’ horror as spoof ad pokes fun at lost girl”
Ad advert in satirical Titantic magazine promises the kitchen cleaner will “remove all traces at the home” even DNA traces. The adverts warn that just because Madeleine’s face is on the product it does not mean they can be taken for free. The Sun is disgusted. It reproduces the images and the words to allow its readers to share in its disgust
A march on the German embassy is not yet in the planning
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE SICK NEW TWIST – Horror at German abuse of missing tot”
The Germans have her. A German paedo!
Page 7: “TOTALLY SICK – A full reproduction of the spoof adverts. “McCann’s agony as rag mocks hunt for Maddie.” Thanks to the Star and Sun, the McCanns now know that an obscure German magazines has made jokes about their case
Says Clarence Mitchell: “It shows Madeleine herself no respect… The magazine did not seek permission to use Madeleine’s image to be used on this so-called joke. It they had it would almost certainly not have been given”
So much for doing anything to keep Madeleine in the news
THE INDEPENDENT page 5: “Mills: I am treated as badly as Kate McCann and Diana.” More on Lady Mucca
THE TELEGRAPH page 9: “Madeleine police ‘consult sacked head of inquiry’” – chief inspector Goncalo Amaral is on the case. Sort of
The paper says detectives are “no closer to solving the case”. And the campaign to find Madeleine goes on…
THE TIMES and THE GUARDIAN: No Madeleine news today
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November 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 am
jacques Cousteau, I am not a McCann supporter. The way that social services investigate neglect is to see if there is “Significant Harm” caused to the child (in Madeleine’s case it may have been fatal). I am in agreement that it is unthinkable to leave children of thet age alone at all but the Statewould look for evidence of stunted development etc to prove that neglect had taken place. People are allowed to make mistakes in that system if it not consistent or willful. It could be considered willful neglect. I am merely contributing to the debate.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 am
1357 MT2
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 am
The Real Stig
Do they do things differently Down Under?
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 am
1316 an observer
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Last night the McCanns got a boost when the police case appeared to be undermined by a pensioner who is potentially a key witness.
Pamela Fenn, 81, lives above the apartment where Madeleine disappeared and is reported to have told police she heard Madeleine screaming below.
But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was “absolute rubbish” she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: “I didn’t even know that family was in there.”
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November 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 am
1307 Sandra Says:
John they did not neglect their children.
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Every time you repeat this nonsense Sandra it just hacks of parents, and others who care for/about children, that the McCanns’, their supporters and apologist can conceive of any circumstances in which it might be acceptable to leave young children alone. (and yes, I’ve just used the exact same words to Stig and Maria!)
They could have used the crèche
They could have hired a baby sitter until 1.00 Am
They could have taken it in turns for one of the adults to be in the apartment.
Instead.. they did what was best for themselves, allegedly, and left their children on their own.
You are dancing on a legal pinhead.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:51 am
Link to something about door being open
http://www.tesco.com/storelocator/
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 am
smells like ass
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 am
1296 Real Stig
The question of prosecution is not what I am writing about it is the idea that what happened does not constitute neglect. If the consequence is serious enough then neglect charges can be brought.
What Warners offer as a listening service is neither here nor there as they would not be neglectful unless the listener heard a child in trouble and did not respond. A listening service would not give the same amount of care as an adult sitter or the parent.
As the McCanns ignored known guidelines they were neglectful. If an adult sitter wandered off for 30 mins and left a child vulnerable that person would be neglectful. A professional sitter would not work with children again.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 am
Sorry I meant Jolie
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 am
1301 Maria Says:
The logic of not using the creche at night? They felt their children needed to sleep. They didn’t want them up till all hours even in a creche. Edit….
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Every time you repeat this nonsense Maria it just hacks of parents, and others who care for/about children, that the McCanns’, their supporters and apologist can conceive of any circumstances in which it might be acceptable to leave young children alone. (and yes, I’ve just used the exact same words to Stig!)
They could have used the crèche
They could have hired a baby sitter until 1.00 Am
They could have taken it in turns for one of the adults to be in the apartment.
Instead.. they did what was best for themselves, allegedly, and left their children on their own.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:46 am
1341 anna
“forensic evidence flawed” is diversionary tactic MT6
I am not alone in thinking maddie is dead - I believe we of that view are in the majority
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:46 am
Mrs Doyle - why does it have to be serial to be neglect? If we believe the Mccanns that she was abducted then it was neglect on that night or does anyone think it was acceptable behaviour? why the sympathy for a couple who left their children unattended - why do I have to keep on banging on about this point I thought this was accepted by now - please all MCCann supporters come out and say why it was alright to leave your children alone…..
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:46 am
Annie, could you post a link to Hitchens’s Blog please
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 am
Annie
You didn’t disagree with me - you posted something I didn’t say. And you did the same with someone else.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 am
It would also be physical abuse if the children could come to harm in the apartment (Drugs lying around etc); emotional abuse if consistently left in a situation without an adult to comfort them.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 am
Stig - the law is open to interpretation. I don’t think they were ever at risk of prosecution because they’re middle-class - chavs would have been charged as they got off the plane.
The point is - it’s not recommended to leave 3 small children alone - they did it every night except the first and they didn’t need to.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 am
1190 Peter O
1192 Thea
Thanks for taking the time to post responses to me about Hitchen’s blog. I’m glad to hear feedback that confirms my own observations (but aren’t we all happy when that happens?). It’s hard for a skeptical person to have faith and trust in strangers. Every time someone’s claims turn out to be false, it further degrades the trust in fellow humans. Oh well, tomorrow is another day and I hope to be in a better frame of mind.
I hope Mike Hitchen has taken the time to come to this forum today and has read what others think of him. Does that make me small-minded?
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:42 am
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Karen Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 am
Annie
Is being a troll fun? I’d get bored if I didn’t have real conversations with posters.
You’d be the best person to answer that question Karen.
Not agreeing with you does get up your nose eh?
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:42 am
1282 The Real Stig Says:
1220 Sandra
“It wasnt child neglect. It was careless child minding but not neglect.”
I completely agree with you. I have argued this myself many times. I often liken it to taking your children somewhere in a car and there being a fatal accident, and on e of your children is killed.
Car travel involves risk - of a far greater magnitude than what the McCanns did. I have also said they were extremely unlucky in that something did happen.
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The decision to leave three children under the age of 4 alone is crap parenting. Whether it’s neglectful is actually irrelevant at this stage because no legal authority is gong to pursue this aspect of the case whilst there is a wider abduction/accident/murder investigation underway.
If Madeleine was genuinely abducted then the parents (well, any normal parents) are going to be living in a personal hell for the rest of their lives knowing that their actions led directly to creating the situation that allowed the abduction to take place. In most ‘normal’ circumstance if this transpires to be the case, there is little to be served to Society by further punishing the parents.
If something other than abduction occurred, then potentially the children left alone thing is part of the evidence fabrication required to cover up whatever else may have happened.
There is no similarity in risk profile between taking a child on a car journey and making a conscious decision, on successive nights allegedly, to leave three children under the age of 4 on their own. The chance of an abduction may well indeed be orders of magnitude lower than the risk of a motoring accident, but that in itself does not excuse an irresponsible child care decision by parents. It is far more likely that if an unattended child wakes up they could be distressed, ill, have an accident, etc. Abduction is just something that is at the far end of improbable, which is why so many appear to have an issue in believing this is what happened.
Every time you repeat this nonsense Stig it just hacks of parents, and others who care for/about children, that the McCanns’, their supporters and apologist can conceive of any circumstances in which it might be acceptable to leave young children alone.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 am
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Ade Says:
1300″ sandra
missing child diversion tactic is MT3
maddie is long dead
I enjoy watching these wretched people squirm as they try to wriggle out of their predicament. maddie is dead because of them - it’s their fault, plain and simple. they will have to face the consequences of their actions if there is any justice for the little girl.
McConn bashing is excellent fun…”
Ade, you may well enjoy watching people squirm wretched or otherwise. That because you have stated it yourself about yourself may be considered fact. My opinion of that fact ,is that it says something about you , nobody else, you.
What is not fact but your opinion is that Madeleine is dead, unless you have some information that the rest of the world knows nothing about and I am not talking about DNA which to date is not definitive.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 am
1296 John
Harry Hindsight - who I believe actually is a Lawyer - said some time ago that their actions would not be classed as neglect and that he didn’t think they would ever be prosecuted on that basis.
Mark Warner - until this happened - were offering a listening service at most of it’s resorts that was less than the McCanns were doing as the MW service only involved listening at the door.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 am
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Mrs Doyle Says:
I understand the Tapas9 asked for that particular table because it was nearer the apartments so they could make the checks quickly. The original table was quite far away from the apartments. I also understand that on one occassion they went to a resturant several miles from the apartment (this could be rumours though)
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 am
By the way Stig - if you’re still around.
Where do you live and what do you do and stuff like that? You don’t really say much about yourself.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:38 am
1335 Mrs Doyle
It can be a one off occasion if the child is put a significant risk - the Mccanns did this 4 nights running (from what I have read).
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:37 am
Annie
Is being a troll fun? I’d get bored if I didn’t have real conversations with posters.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 am
1296-John,
Neglect is something that happens (or isn’t done) over a period of time. If they left the kids every night of the holiday it would constitute neglect as they were at risk of harm over a sustained period of time.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 am
Ahh Clouseau mon brave you’re back! has my famous cousin solved any mysteries lately? - I’ve been busy looking at the endangered Cod
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 am
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Peter O Says:
My 10 month old had to be sedated for an MRI scan, the nurses had to give him a second dose because the first didn’t work.
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:33 am
1327 peter o
KM herself has made reference to maddy crying for 16 hours a day. Sounds like maddy did a lot of crying
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:32 am
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Peter O Says:
November 2nd, 2007 at 12:27 am
1280 an observer Says:
Edit ..
Why can we assume if someone was crying it’s automatically Madeleine that’s crying? Two year olds cry too, and are capable of calling for Mummy and/or Daddy.
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I appears the twins slept through the whole drama of the night of the 3rd so i assumed they were good sleepers. also thought i read this elsewhere. will try and check now.