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	<title>Comments on: Madeleine McCann: A Shower Curtain, Kate&#8217;s Church Whispers And The Blonde Of Karia Ba Mohamed</title>
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		<title>By: Candace Carnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace Carnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heavens...I can't recall where I last posted, I thought it was this thread (so much for email notification!).

This is off-topic - but does anyone know how tall Gerry McCann is?????

I will bookmark this for reference. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavens&#8230;I can&#8217;t recall where I last posted, I thought it was this thread (so much for email notification!).</p>
<p>This is off-topic - but does anyone know how tall Gerry McCann is?????</p>
<p>I will bookmark this for reference. <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all.

Did anyone else read No 79 of today's postings?

Can anyone enlighten me on this ?

Congratulations Will on the new additions to the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all.</p>
<p>Did anyone else read No 79 of today&#8217;s postings?</p>
<p>Can anyone enlighten me on this ?</p>
<p>Congratulations Will on the new additions to the family.</p>
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		<title>By: DNAMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNAMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1631
thea Says: 

"November 6th, 2007 at 6:42 am 
Hi,
 
Well back to the pajamas. I don’t know if anyone posted the link to Julie from Wales’ Blogspate? But here it is in case anyone is interested in details on the pyjamas game. See Julia’s October 26th entry:"

Thank you, thank you, thank you

I wouldn't have known what to make of this case were it not for some complete no mark from wales.

Her insight into this case based on no knowledge of anything has really changed my mind - you see I always thought that people were innocent until proven guilty, but the mystery of the pyjamas has convinced me that the parents are in league with Osama bin Laden.

I have also chaged my mind that you are just a vicious old harridan with nothing better in her sad empty life than to cast aspersions on people who have lost their child, to believing that you are a force for good in an otherwise wicked world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1631<br />
thea Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;November 6th, 2007 at 6:42 am<br />
Hi,</p>
<p>Well back to the pajamas. I don’t know if anyone posted the link to Julie from Wales’ Blogspate? But here it is in case anyone is interested in details on the pyjamas game. See Julia’s October 26th entry:&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you, thank you, thank you</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t have known what to make of this case were it not for some complete no mark from wales.</p>
<p>Her insight into this case based on no knowledge of anything has really changed my mind - you see I always thought that people were innocent until proven guilty, but the mystery of the pyjamas has convinced me that the parents are in league with Osama bin Laden.</p>
<p>I have also chaged my mind that you are just a vicious old harridan with nothing better in her sad empty life than to cast aspersions on people who have lost their child, to believing that you are a force for good in an otherwise wicked world.</p>
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		<title>By: Man Wedding Band &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Design your own wedding band</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man Wedding Band &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Design your own wedding band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anorak - For those of you who didn’t read Anorak yesterday : “Shower curtain, white flannel, green elastic band, green child The Metropolitan Police Commissioner seems to be Man Tells FBI Son-In Law Is In al-Qaeda - AN al-Qaeda wedding: A man in Sweden Man Wedding Band Tips  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: susannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>susannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fascinating time in man's history.
The end of many cycles are occurring now.
We are moving away from power and knowledge
to intuition and understanding.
I have absolute faith that truth will prevail in this case.
It is much much larger than we can contemplate and it begins
here this transformation to transparency and truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fascinating time in man&#8217;s history.<br />
The end of many cycles are occurring now.<br />
We are moving away from power and knowledge<br />
to intuition and understanding.<br />
I have absolute faith that truth will prevail in this case.<br />
It is much much larger than we can contemplate and it begins<br />
here this transformation to transparency and truth.</p>
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		<title>By: thea</title>
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		<dc:creator>thea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I hope everyone in the UK had a Happy Guy Fawkes' Day!!! Sounds like a lot of fun. I was wondering if anyone made effigies of Gerry or Kate? :) (Gordon? Ian Blair?)

Well back to the pajamas. I don't know if anyone posted the link to Julie from Wales' Blogspate? But here it is in case anyone is interested in details on the pyjamas game. See Julia's October 26th entry:

http://julietpain.blogspot.com/search/label/Kate%20and%20Gerry%20McCann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I hope everyone in the UK had a Happy Guy Fawkes&#8217; Day!!! Sounds like a lot of fun. I was wondering if anyone made effigies of Gerry or Kate? <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> (Gordon? Ian Blair?)</p>
<p>Well back to the pajamas. I don&#8217;t know if anyone posted the link to Julie from Wales&#8217; Blogspate? But here it is in case anyone is interested in details on the pyjamas game. See Julia&#8217;s October 26th entry:</p>
<p><a href="http://julietpain.blogspot.com/search/label/Kate%20and%20Gerry%20McCann" rel="nofollow">http://julietpain.blogspot.com/search/label/Kate%20and%20Gerry%20McCann</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanderer

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanderer</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1620

I think the only statement that came out directly from them was the blog entry. Here is the link to that:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2801121.ece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1620</p>
<p>I think the only statement that came out directly from them was the blog entry. Here is the link to that:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2801121.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2801121.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110773</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Wanderer.

Maybe they didn't make a statement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Wanderer.</p>
<p>Maybe they didn&#8217;t make a statement?</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1596
Murder
---------------------------------------
You are correct about the significance of the pencil case. 
(You deserve a promotion to lieutenant!)
The allergic reaction you are talking about is anaphylaxis.

Diphenhydramine is the drug reportedly found in the Madeleine blood traces. It's the drug in "Calpol Night" and thus the talk about its use as a sedative. However, with the topic of allergic reaction, we have the (extremely likely scneario) that a different drug was administered by injection, caused an allergic reaction, which then resulted in emgergency treatment using diphenhydramine -- which is , after all , PRIMARILY an anti-histamine.

This is almost certainly the "accident" to which the police have been referring. 

See quotes below, such as "Antihistamines (eg, H1 blockers), such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) are important and should be administered for all patients with anaphylaxis or generalized urticaria."

Also, " While most reactions occur within hours, symptoms may not occur for as long as 3-4 days after exposure." This would of course constitute extraordinary medical malpractice on the part of the McCanns, since they left their children alone, knowing about this risk.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine
Diphenhydramine works by blocking the effect of histamine at H1 receptor sites. This results in effects such as the reduction of smooth muscle contraction, making diphenhydramine a popular choice for treatment of the symptoms of allergic rhinitis, hives, motion sickness, and insect bites and stings.

http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/topic42875
Anaphylaxis is a rapidly progressing, life-threatening allergic reaction.
Description
Anaphylaxis is a type of allergic reaction, in which the immune system responds to otherwise harmless substances from the environment. Unlike other allergic reactions, however, anaphylaxis can kill. Reaction may begin within minutes or even seconds of exposure, and rapidly progress to cause airway constriction, skin and intestinal irritation, and altered heart rhythms. In severe cases, it can result in complete airway obstruction, shock, and death.

Causes 
Like the majority of other allergic reactions, anaphylaxis is caused by the release of histamine and other chemicals from mast cells. Mast cells are a type of white blood cell and they are found in large numbers in the tissues that regulate exchange with the environment: the airways, digestive system, and skin.

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic25.htm
Antihistamines (eg, H1 blockers), such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) are important and should be administered for all patients with anaphylaxis or generalized urticaria...

...Oral medications and many other types of exposures also have been implicated. Anaphylaxis also may be idiopathic.

...Most severe reactions occur soon after exposure. The faster a reaction develops, the more severe it is likely to be. While most reactions occur within hours, symptoms may not occur for as long as 3-4 days after exposure.

...Reactions tend to be more severe and rapid in onset when the antibiotic is administered parenterally [by injection].

...Pretreatment with antihistamines or corticosteroids and use of LMW agents lead to lower rates of anaphylactoid reactions to IV contrast. Consider these measures for patients who have prior history of reaction, since rate of recurrence is estimated at 17-60%. Patients who are atopic and/or asthmatic also are at increased risk of reaction. In addition, allergic reaction is more difficult to treat in those taking beta-blockers.

.... Use of LMW contrast decreases incidence of reactions to approximately 0.5%. Personnel, medications, and equipment needed for treatment of allergic reactions always should be available when these agents are administered. Obtain consent before administration.

...widely quoted protocol for prevention of reactions to IV contrast suggests the following: 

Use low osmolality contrast. 

Administer hydrocortisone (200 mg IV); wait 2 hours if clinically appropriate. 

Administer diphenhydramine (50 mg IM) immediately before the procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1596<br />
Murder<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
You are correct about the significance of the pencil case.<br />
(You deserve a promotion to lieutenant!)<br />
The allergic reaction you are talking about is anaphylaxis.</p>
<p>Diphenhydramine is the drug reportedly found in the Madeleine blood traces. It&#8217;s the drug in &#8220;Calpol Night&#8221; and thus the talk about its use as a sedative. However, with the topic of allergic reaction, we have the (extremely likely scneario) that a different drug was administered by injection, caused an allergic reaction, which then resulted in emgergency treatment using diphenhydramine &#8212; which is , after all , PRIMARILY an anti-histamine.</p>
<p>This is almost certainly the &#8220;accident&#8221; to which the police have been referring. </p>
<p>See quotes below, such as &#8220;Antihistamines (eg, H1 blockers), such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) are important and should be administered for all patients with anaphylaxis or generalized urticaria.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, &#8221; While most reactions occur within hours, symptoms may not occur for as long as 3-4 days after exposure.&#8221; This would of course constitute extraordinary medical malpractice on the part of the McCanns, since they left their children alone, knowing about this risk.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine</a><br />
Diphenhydramine works by blocking the effect of histamine at H1 receptor sites. This results in effects such as the reduction of smooth muscle contraction, making diphenhydramine a popular choice for treatment of the symptoms of allergic rhinitis, hives, motion sickness, and insect bites and stings.</p>
<p><a href="http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/topic42875" rel="nofollow">http://healthresources.caremark.com/topic/topic42875</a><br />
Anaphylaxis is a rapidly progressing, life-threatening allergic reaction.<br />
Description<br />
Anaphylaxis is a type of allergic reaction, in which the immune system responds to otherwise harmless substances from the environment. Unlike other allergic reactions, however, anaphylaxis can kill. Reaction may begin within minutes or even seconds of exposure, and rapidly progress to cause airway constriction, skin and intestinal irritation, and altered heart rhythms. In severe cases, it can result in complete airway obstruction, shock, and death.</p>
<p>Causes<br />
Like the majority of other allergic reactions, anaphylaxis is caused by the release of histamine and other chemicals from mast cells. Mast cells are a type of white blood cell and they are found in large numbers in the tissues that regulate exchange with the environment: the airways, digestive system, and skin.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic25.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic25.htm</a><br />
Antihistamines (eg, H1 blockers), such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) are important and should be administered for all patients with anaphylaxis or generalized urticaria&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Oral medications and many other types of exposures also have been implicated. Anaphylaxis also may be idiopathic.</p>
<p>&#8230;Most severe reactions occur soon after exposure. The faster a reaction develops, the more severe it is likely to be. While most reactions occur within hours, symptoms may not occur for as long as 3-4 days after exposure.</p>
<p>&#8230;Reactions tend to be more severe and rapid in onset when the antibiotic is administered parenterally [by injection].</p>
<p>&#8230;Pretreatment with antihistamines or corticosteroids and use of LMW agents lead to lower rates of anaphylactoid reactions to IV contrast. Consider these measures for patients who have prior history of reaction, since rate of recurrence is estimated at 17-60%. Patients who are atopic and/or asthmatic also are at increased risk of reaction. In addition, allergic reaction is more difficult to treat in those taking beta-blockers.</p>
<p>&#8230;. Use of LMW contrast decreases incidence of reactions to approximately 0.5%. Personnel, medications, and equipment needed for treatment of allergic reactions always should be available when these agents are administered. Obtain consent before administration.</p>
<p>&#8230;widely quoted protocol for prevention of reactions to IV contrast suggests the following: </p>
<p>Use low osmolality contrast. </p>
<p>Administer hydrocortisone (200 mg IV); wait 2 hours if clinically appropriate. </p>
<p>Administer diphenhydramine (50 mg IM) immediately before the procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1603
Kris
"So why are they [the McCanns], instead, using these awkward phrasings that make everyone think they are guilty? "

So you believe that everyone thinks they are guilty? No wonder you are so frantically trying to get some of us to see that child neglect is just a matter of poor judgement, blah blah blah. You are lonely! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1603<br />
Kris<br />
&#8220;So why are they [the McCanns], instead, using these awkward phrasings that make everyone think they are guilty? &#8221;</p>
<p>So you believe that everyone thinks they are guilty? No wonder you are so frantically trying to get some of us to see that child neglect is just a matter of poor judgement, blah blah blah. You are lonely! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://video.aol.com/video-detail/prayers-for-madeleine/1756328232

This is the only video I can find of the service, it doesn’t include them speaking though. 

1612

Ellie, you're welcome to your opinions and your prayers. They were on holiday, but if you hired someone else to watch your child and you found out they went out back where they couldn't see the house, left a door unlocked, and decided to drink (hey, they were on midterm holiday!), I imagine you would be a bit upset. In fact I think you would worry about that person as well, after checking on your child, worrying that something could have happened to them. Parenting is a full time job you don't get paid for, which is why people do get upset over the McCanns leaving their children, everyone knows and realizes it was a mistake; but claiming that it is a lesser mistake because they were on holiday and wanted to have a good time isn't going to help the McCanns or their case.  

I think everyone here is in agreement that they want the case solved and for Madeleine to be found. Everyone has sympathy for Madeleine and the twins, I believe some people, upon hearing that the McCanns were now suspects lost some or all sympathy for them (others insist they thought the McCanns were involved from the start). In any case, there a like minded people for all groups of belief, and I don't see how we are just making things worse. After all, the British press is more favorable towards the McCanns; people generally come on forums in order to hear different views and express their own (we have a mixture of views here and yes, sadly some abuse), I think that is a good thing.</description>
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<p>This is the only video I can find of the service, it doesn’t include them speaking though. </p>
<p>1612</p>
<p>Ellie, you&#8217;re welcome to your opinions and your prayers. They were on holiday, but if you hired someone else to watch your child and you found out they went out back where they couldn&#8217;t see the house, left a door unlocked, and decided to drink (hey, they were on midterm holiday!), I imagine you would be a bit upset. In fact I think you would worry about that person as well, after checking on your child, worrying that something could have happened to them. Parenting is a full time job you don&#8217;t get paid for, which is why people do get upset over the McCanns leaving their children, everyone knows and realizes it was a mistake; but claiming that it is a lesser mistake because they were on holiday and wanted to have a good time isn&#8217;t going to help the McCanns or their case.  </p>
<p>I think everyone here is in agreement that they want the case solved and for Madeleine to be found. Everyone has sympathy for Madeleine and the twins, I believe some people, upon hearing that the McCanns were now suspects lost some or all sympathy for them (others insist they thought the McCanns were involved from the start). In any case, there a like minded people for all groups of belief, and I don&#8217;t see how we are just making things worse. After all, the British press is more favorable towards the McCanns; people generally come on forums in order to hear different views and express their own (we have a mixture of views here and yes, sadly some abuse), I think that is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: MichealRob</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110769</link>
		<dc:creator>MichealRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murder,
I may have something to interest you.
Can you email me and i will show it to you.
michaelrobinson@home.nl

thanks
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murder,<br />
I may have something to interest you.<br />
Can you email me and i will show it to you.<br />
<a href="mailto:michaelrobinson@home.nl">michaelrobinson@home.nl</a></p>
<p>thanks<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110768</link>
		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1581
Kris Says: 
"Hideki- fine. Whatever. You’re obviously one of those not-quite-rational anti-McCann people who need them to be guilty at all cost and who see everything they do, from eating to breathing to sleeping to jogging, through the bias of your belief in their guilt. So there’s no sense talking to you anymore. "

You are obviously someone who resorts to personal remarks when you are unable to answer simple pointed questions or to back up your unsubstantiated remarks. 

"I’ve never been anything other than nice to you, and have made obvious that I am not one who believes absolutely in the McCanns’ innocence, but you seem convinced that I am wrong anyway, because I do think there is not enough evidence to prove them guilty at this point."

Yes, you are wrong, and you keep playing that game about "guilt or innocense", always referring only to the question of whether they killed the girl or not.Actually, in all matters  (such as criminal neglect, illegal disposing of a body, etc)  the notion that we need evidence to "prove" them guilty here is ridiculous. People are just speculating about the probable extent of their guilt, and whether or not they should be charged (and with what) and be put on trial. No one needs you to come in here repeating over and over that the McCanns have not yet been found guilty in a court of law. 

"But I have no interest in defending them or lying on their behalf."

That sounds like a lie to me. No, sorry, it was merely an "inconsistency". I forgot that for people like you, the McCanns NEVER LIE... they only come up with inconsistent statements, which is quite permissible. LOL

"You’re paranoid and stupid."

More stupid personal remarks from someone unable to fashion a logical argument and maintain it over the course of a thread. 

"As for why the McCanns are “so convinced” that pedos took their daughter, I really didn’t know they were so convinced. I think they have publicly put forth a variety of scenarios they believe are possible."

Team McCann's private detective agency Metodo3 has only put out ONE SINGLE THEORY. You claimed it had two, but refused to show any source for that ludicrous contention. Now you are falsely talking about "a variety of scenarios".  Can't you stick to one single spun out falsity?

 The only place you will find that variety is at forums like this ANORAK one, because pro-McCon hacks like you have been unable to disrupt the conversation. 

1582
Kris Says: 
"Hideki, also , i have figured out (through a more careful analysis of your posts) why I can’t seem to follow you. Very frequently, the first part of your sentence seems to be going one place with one thought pattern, then the second half of the sentence spins out somewhere unexpected , which couldn’t be anticipated in the first part of the sentence. It’s like you can’t quite fully finish a thought."

No, it's more like you have trouble reading and thinking. I'm glad to know you find some unexpected things in my posts, though... but I certainly don't write them for mindless Team McCann PR goof-ups  like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1581<br />
Kris Says:<br />
&#8220;Hideki- fine. Whatever. You’re obviously one of those not-quite-rational anti-McCann people who need them to be guilty at all cost and who see everything they do, from eating to breathing to sleeping to jogging, through the bias of your belief in their guilt. So there’s no sense talking to you anymore. &#8221;</p>
<p>You are obviously someone who resorts to personal remarks when you are unable to answer simple pointed questions or to back up your unsubstantiated remarks. </p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve never been anything other than nice to you, and have made obvious that I am not one who believes absolutely in the McCanns’ innocence, but you seem convinced that I am wrong anyway, because I do think there is not enough evidence to prove them guilty at this point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, you are wrong, and you keep playing that game about &#8220;guilt or innocense&#8221;, always referring only to the question of whether they killed the girl or not.Actually, in all matters  (such as criminal neglect, illegal disposing of a body, etc)  the notion that we need evidence to &#8220;prove&#8221; them guilty here is ridiculous. People are just speculating about the probable extent of their guilt, and whether or not they should be charged (and with what) and be put on trial. No one needs you to come in here repeating over and over that the McCanns have not yet been found guilty in a court of law. </p>
<p>&#8220;But I have no interest in defending them or lying on their behalf.&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds like a lie to me. No, sorry, it was merely an &#8220;inconsistency&#8221;. I forgot that for people like you, the McCanns NEVER LIE&#8230; they only come up with inconsistent statements, which is quite permissible. LOL</p>
<p>&#8220;You’re paranoid and stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>More stupid personal remarks from someone unable to fashion a logical argument and maintain it over the course of a thread. </p>
<p>&#8220;As for why the McCanns are “so convinced” that pedos took their daughter, I really didn’t know they were so convinced. I think they have publicly put forth a variety of scenarios they believe are possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Team McCann&#8217;s private detective agency Metodo3 has only put out ONE SINGLE THEORY. You claimed it had two, but refused to show any source for that ludicrous contention. Now you are falsely talking about &#8220;a variety of scenarios&#8221;.  Can&#8217;t you stick to one single spun out falsity?</p>
<p> The only place you will find that variety is at forums like this ANORAK one, because pro-McCon hacks like you have been unable to disrupt the conversation. </p>
<p>1582<br />
Kris Says:<br />
&#8220;Hideki, also , i have figured out (through a more careful analysis of your posts) why I can’t seem to follow you. Very frequently, the first part of your sentence seems to be going one place with one thought pattern, then the second half of the sentence spins out somewhere unexpected , which couldn’t be anticipated in the first part of the sentence. It’s like you can’t quite fully finish a thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s more like you have trouble reading and thinking. I&#8217;m glad to know you find some unexpected things in my posts, though&#8230; but I certainly don&#8217;t write them for mindless Team McCann PR goof-ups  like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110766</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.

Wrong Uta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.</p>
<p>Wrong Uta.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110763</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://video.aol.com/video-detail/prayers-for-madeleine/1756328232

This is the only video I can find of the service, it doesn't include them speaking though. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIqdbkxTCGU

Here is Gerry returning to work, incase anyone wants that one.</description>
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<p>This is the only video I can find of the service, it doesn&#8217;t include them speaking though. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIqdbkxTCGU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIqdbkxTCGU</a></p>
<p>Here is Gerry returning to work, incase anyone wants that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110762</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean solidarity? I don't know them from Adam. They could have bodies piled high in their basement. They could be killing their way through their patients. 

I'd like them better if Gerry could stop looking so smug whenever there's a camera about. I swear the way he slimed over the Pope made me feel queasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean solidarity? I don&#8217;t know them from Adam. They could have bodies piled high in their basement. They could be killing their way through their patients. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like them better if Gerry could stop looking so smug whenever there&#8217;s a camera about. I swear the way he slimed over the Pope made me feel queasy.</p>
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		<title>By: ellieintheandes</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110760</link>
		<dc:creator>ellieintheandes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How on earth could one possibly imagine that Madeleine's parents had anything to do with their daughter's disappearance?   What's happened to people's sense of solidarity?   Instead of coming to false conclusions, why doesn't everybody support and try to be of some help instead of making things worse.   It is unbelievable that her parents are being investigated because they and their companions had who knows how many bottles of wine during the meal - for heavens sake - they were all on holiday!!!

The McCanns and Madeleine continue in my family's prayers and positive thoughts for a happy family reunion and I invite everybody to do likewise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How on earth could one possibly imagine that Madeleine&#8217;s parents had anything to do with their daughter&#8217;s disappearance?   What&#8217;s happened to people&#8217;s sense of solidarity?   Instead of coming to false conclusions, why doesn&#8217;t everybody support and try to be of some help instead of making things worse.   It is unbelievable that her parents are being investigated because they and their companions had who knows how many bottles of wine during the meal - for heavens sake - they were all on holiday!!!</p>
<p>The McCanns and Madeleine continue in my family&#8217;s prayers and positive thoughts for a happy family reunion and I invite everybody to do likewise.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110759</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob

You might have said you were replying to Uta. You got me all hopeful and then dashed it like a swine.</description>
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<p>You might have said you were replying to Uta. You got me all hopeful and then dashed it like a swine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/177377/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-a-shower-curtain-kates-church-whispers-and-the-blonde-of-karia-ba-mohamed.html/comment-page-82#comment-110758</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the link you wanted Uta.

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/11/giada-de-lauren.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link you wanted Uta.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/11/giada-de-lauren.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/11/giada-de-lauren.html</a></p>
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