Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
Posted: 4th, December 2007 | In: Broadsheets Comments (1,344) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
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December 5th, 2007 at 12:10 am
anyone know where g and k are
December 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am
1179
Totje Says:
December 5th, 2007 at 12:06 am
1155
chenier, if true, a lot of people won’t be happy…
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I am hugely surprised by Sky running this; Brunty of all people standing there!
December 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am
1131 Chatelaine
1104 Kris
Here is the only reference I’ve found to date on Gerry McCann cancelling the baby-listening service at 6pm that evening - from a poster on another forum. It was posted on 21 November and contains a reference to the McCannorama programme.
I happen to agree quite strongly with their main line of thinking:
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The theory of someone who shall remain nameless but who is respected is that something happened to M (accident!!) much earlier and that is why the baby-listening service was cancelled at 6pm.
There was then plenty of time to invent the story and do all what was necessary. It is also a theory that no child was vomiting - it was a just ploy to go missing for some length of time and get some clean sheets (or something like that).
We have all commented on the McCanns saying they could see the apartment, but from what I saw last night heaven knows where Tanner’s apartment was - she seemed to be going on a route march to hers. None of them seem to think that there was anything wrong with leaving small children like that, and that I find unbelievable.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am
1094
Ariel Says:
except one doesn’t know what other firms were asked first, it could well be that m3 were the only ones who would take on the case.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:08 am
1107
chenier Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
1095
So RO’B is or was an A&E specialist?
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Yes. Was in that post at Leicester Royal Infirmary.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:07 am
Mike H.
568.
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I am from Co.Sligo.
Just back from the local tapas bar here (Costa Blanca) - flamenco music and all’s well, children out with parents and grand parents, no strangers in the night..and no doctors…. Just going to slip into a smallish Jameson.
The locals here, Spanish, English etc couldn’t give a fiddlers feck for the garbage headlines we’re fed with day in/out, we’re all sick of it. Bring it on……(the Paddy wagon with the McC in it) …..yea
December 5th, 2007 at 12:07 am
Prilim
before you donate that 600, bear in mind that I lost a guinea pig this year and could sure do with some help finding it - 600 should just about cover it as long as i charge for the posters and the wrist bands
December 5th, 2007 at 12:07 am
Welterusten Châtelaine.
PS did you hear Martin Blunt (Chenier gave us the link)
December 5th, 2007 at 12:06 am
ok, sanity must prevail, time and the 06:31 to Paddington wait for no man…
(nor woman neither, so stop that sniggering!)
g’night all!
December 5th, 2007 at 12:06 am
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Châtelaine Says:
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
1155
chenier Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1283507,.html
Martin Brunt video: presence of Madeleine’s body in car 100% dna match
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Waw! What did I say about going to bed …?
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My own thoughts; I wonder when the rest of our fellow posters will notice ?
December 5th, 2007 at 12:06 am
1155
chenier, if true, a lot of people won’t be happy…
December 5th, 2007 at 12:05 am
848 Pray for Little Souls
A devout Catholic could NOT “clear her conscience” through confession. In order to do that, she would have to go to the competent authorities and give herself up if she had committed a crime. That’s exactly what a priest would have told her if she had confessed a crime. He would hardly have cheerfully told her everything was OK once she’d confessed!
In fact, I can hardly imagine anyone ever clearing their conscience by any means at all if they had murdered their child. Can you? Even if they had killed her accidentally and covered up the death, desecrated her body, stashed it in a freezer, hauled it about in a hire car and dumped it somewhere, I can’t imagine anyone ever recovering from having done such a wicked thing. But the only possible starting point would be to confess to the crime…..to the police.
BTW, very few people, especially younger ones, even use confession today. They may well turn to a minister for spiritual support but that is quite different.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:05 am
The only thing about the 100% headline is that it is false.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:05 am
1154 Monstie
…However, John McCann complains about the sharp fall of the donnations, and accused the media of spreading crap and stop de money rising
I’m going to donnate some 600 euros right now, before going to bed. sya tomorow
December 5th, 2007 at 12:05 am
1166
Totje Says:
December 5th, 2007 at 12:02 am
1150
chenier, I thought so. K and k?
Maybe one of them might change her name, is less confusing.
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Perhaps the loud one is the result of Sky turning on the McCanns …
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
1151 Meejician…
Laurence Sterne… never heard of him. My proper name is Tristram… but always I felt it should be Trismegistus…
xx
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
1155
chenier Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91210-1283507,.html
Martin Brunt video: presence of Madeleine’s body in car 100% dna match
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Waw! What did I say about going to bed …?
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
Sam 1165
Maybe lots of more reputable or appropriate firms turned down the job because they believed M would not be found - maybe they are wonderfully moral like Tris and Metedo 3 are a little greyer on the moreal front
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
no wonder they have gone missing
December 5th, 2007 at 12:04 am
1092
Rationalist Says:
Does anyone know the distinction between a nerd and a geek…because ..I fear I’m in danger of becoming one or the other….without the expertise…
no, i dont’ know, let me know if you find out
December 5th, 2007 at 12:03 am
Well, the third time is the charm:
please, someone notice that the skys are falling on the McCanns…
December 5th, 2007 at 12:02 am
Night night Rationalist, sleep well and don’t peek into Anorak during the nigth
December 5th, 2007 at 12:02 am
the phrase ‘I told you so@ springs to mind
December 5th, 2007 at 12:02 am
1156 monstie bags…
You may very well be right. They could be out-McCanning the McCanns… wouldn’t that be rich?
December 5th, 2007 at 12:02 am
1150
chenier, I thought so. K and k?
Maybe one of them might change her name, is less confusing.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:01 am
1090
Kris Says:
‘1056 Sam. That’s an interesting thought and could perhaps help us explain why the McCanns chose Metedo 3 even though they do not specialize (at all) in these types of investigations. Perhaps PI agencies which do specialize in criminal cases are required either by law or by habit to provide info to police? Perhaps Metedo 3 was chosen BECAUSE they have no obligations to police based on past cases?’
oh i don’t know, obviously. how would you research such and do you think the mccanns did ?
‘ Or perhaps they were chosen also because they are in Spain where the Portugese authorities might have a harder time forcing Metedo 3 to co-operate with (foreign) police. (UNless I’m mistaken Metedo 3 is in Spain- that’s what I thought I remembered).’
they are in spain, yes, perhaps it was chosen because of that but one doesn’t know because one doesn’t know which other agencies were approached before m3.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:01 am
1157
Pilimary Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
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please go to the SKY site and see the explanation of why the PJ are so sure of the McCanns’ involvement.
It should cheer you up!
December 5th, 2007 at 12:01 am
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monstie bags Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
the McCanns are protecting their fund rather than looking for their daughter. The fund disappears if M is dead as the fund was set up purely to find M and bring her home. Metedo’s job is to generate sightings thus perpetuating the myth that M is alive. Hell, K and G have already taken a few days out to ‘grieve’. i always thought you grieved after someone had died.
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Metado is a recycling agency, and maybe as others have said, a means of recycling the money. Esther McVey stated prior to November 14th (board meeting of Fund) that the agency was being paid for by Brian Kennedy. But now we discover that it’s being paid from the Fund.
And every ’sighting’ that this agency has had, phoned in to its Premuin Rate Line, has already been fully investigated by the PJ or by other Police forces.
They are, at bottom, a PR agency, not an investigation team.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:01 am
1136 kris…
I’m sorry, I can’t hear someone who is shouting.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:00 am
1134 monstie bags…
Yes to all counts. :p