Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
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December 4th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
I think that the doctor has stepped in a puddle right up to his middle………
December 4th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Maria
The evidence that they have as to why they are not good Doctors is that the child died
December 4th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Stevo
Any idea where the McCanns are?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
What?
Classic!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
Meant “serious” not “serius”!!!!!!!!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
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Rockhopper
Do you know how much some men pay to have someone talk nasty to them?
Well, actually I don’t but I’m sure it’s loads.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
17 cells eh?
I think 1 cell would do - with large iron bars and a cold hard bed and slop bucket!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
225 Lindy
Do they call the media? I imagine the cameras are there when the papers are looking for something to publish. When they think people are bored, or there’s absolutely nothing to say, they don’t bother. It won’t be because they want to give the McCanns a bit of privacy, we can be sure of that. They don’t care about anything or anyone as long as they sell papers.
I don’t think these things are in the McCanns’ hands. Presumably they go to church, or whatever they choose to do, including playing with the twins, whether or not the cameras are around.
ADE
What evidence do you have that they are not good doctors? The odd grammatical slip doesn’t make you a poor doctor. His public speaking ability was more than adequate. The NHS is in a bad enough state as it is. If we got rid of every doctor who makes grammatical errors, we’d have about three left in the whole country, I should think!
GM may be an excellent cardiologist. His hospital has a good reputation in cardiology and seemed to want him back. There is no evidence for that particularly smear.
If we’re judging intelligence, professional competence and skill by grammar, syntax and spelling, let’s look at a few police statements…..!
GB probably just had no suspicions at the beginning. I don’t think he’s related to Gillian Gibbons is he? He still sent out two diplomats to help a British subject. I suppose it’s just possible that he might have found out later that she’d actually signed up to teach in the Sudan as part of a private let’s-insult-islam-and-provoke-more-terrorist-attacks-on-the-UK campaign but naturally he didn’t consider that as a serius possibility. He just went ahead and helped, as he did with the McCanns. Cautious now for obvious reasons.
None of the above proves innocence but why not stick to facts?
Not enough ripping fun, maybe?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Ade……
Any luck with that “Clarence and British Cultural Thing” nonsense vid ?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Tracy
A sang comes to my mind aswell Sitting at the bottom of a dock of a bay
December 4th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
250 Lulu
Nasty (as we call them over here)
December 4th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
248
Rockhopper
My friend had one with a cow’s tooth once.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
A Song comes to mind - “Run Baby Run”
December 4th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
244 Lulu
I know, bits of mice is ‘proper’, orwas that a one off!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
207 maria
Thank you for your insightful answer.
I assume that the British diplomat was writing this letter as an answer to the orders they were having at the British embassy: they had already been told to give all assistance to the mcCanns and not leave them alone with the Portuguese police (!!!). The diplomat asked to highlight the fact that there were inconsistencies in their statements and their co-operation with the police was somewhat lacking.
Why did it go unnoticed by the rest of the media? Because a sensitive matter?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
236 Lulu
As long as they’re having fun, my lad started at the age of 3(standing up), then regressed to playing in the rock pools with a body board, did I mind? not a bit, just so long as he was happy. Haven’t been North Coasting too often in recent years, need to find somewhere to escape the crowds of Polzeath/Newquay etc.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:37 pm
The really strange thing is if as some here claim,they have all this evidence against the fragrant two,how come they haven’t charged them.Is it because what they have wouldn’t stand up in court,comes back to what some said ages ago including the prosecutor,no body no case no trial.This case is getting shelved can see it coming.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Rockhopper
I have one statement to make to you and I would like you to spread it far and wide to your region, as they seem to be mistaken about something.
You don’t put frickin peas and carrots in them and still call ‘em proper!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
233
addedsugar Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
This is London 35 minutes ago: McCanns may have to return to Portugal…
The article (also) says the scientists will have problems to distinguish Madeleine’s DNA material from that of her siblings. Understandable, but didn’t they also determine the body fluids in the car came from a dead body? At least Amelie and Sean aren’t dead.
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Well, we hope so; it would be embarassing to have to admit that they’d mislaid them as well…
This Is London is doing its best with unpromising material; yesterday they were running the 17 cells buried underneath claims that the Portuguese police believed that it was a ‘mission impossible’.
Such are the vicissitudes of life at the journo sharp end
December 4th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
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Maria Says:
“Thought the PJ were pursuing the 17 cells. As Dr Denny says,
“A person, or their possessions, have to be present.” (to get such cells.)Were Madeleine’s possessions likely to have been in that hire car? Erm…..think so!”
This is what I meant by “subterfuge” in my earlier post. The FSS clearly stated that the body fluid samples COULD NOT have come from anything but a corpse — that there was too much of it to have come from a posseession, toy, etc.
Therefore we can conclude that this “17 cells” is NOT referring to the body fluid evidence. I would guess it refers to skin evidence, or possibly the new evidence found on the towel.
And yet people are being misled into thinking that the sum total of the evidence is “17 cells”. This could be the result of an ignorant reporter misinterpreting remarks made, but it is more likely that the ignorant reporter was fed an ambiguous statement.
Why would they want to do this? I doubt they are fooling Team McCann, which by now knows that the PJ has plenty of damning evidence. What exactly hinges on these “17 cells” ? They are not saying!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Hows it going Garth?
December 4th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
SteveT
I hope so cos im sitting here laughing to myself and my family have got serious concerns cos they think im on Tesco Online - needs to reach a conclusion before I get an involuntary admission somewhere
December 4th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
226…Maria
Hadn’t hear that G Gibbons was a Suspect in a “disappeared” child case. Gee…that’s
serious.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
oops this is curtains…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vo9ZeEoX28&feature=related
December 4th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Ariel
Yes Ariel and me thinks that the fifteen bottles of wine they drank turned into water!
December 4th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
rockhopper
222
They have body boards, but have so far shown no real talent for riding the waves.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
223…what
Didn’t think they had much spare case before their “scam”….
December 4th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
curtains indeed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ5oPOVC744
December 4th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
This is London 35 minutes ago: McCanns may have to return to Portugal…
The article (also) says the scientists will have problems to distinguish Madeleine’s DNA material from that of her siblings. Understandable, but didn’t they also determine the body fluids in the car came from a dead body? At least Amelie and Sean aren’t dead.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
It will be curtains soon!