Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
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Comments
December 4th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
548
Rationalist, see you later and “smakelijk eten”
December 4th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
552 pat….Now thats another pratt……….dubya……….all we want is peace….yeah..a piece of pipe that carries oil…
December 4th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
484 Stevo
512 Ferdinand
and others
re PJ not “interviewing” the twins.
1 They were 2 years old
2 They were asleep / unconscious throughout whatever happened
3 They remained asleep / unconscious throughout the frantic searching, and the almost total destruction of what the McCs insist was a crime scene
Am I right in thinking they were then carried still asleep / unconscious to a neighbouring apartment, and still did not wake up.
If so … to which apartment, and by whom ?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Stevo, I loved to see Comical Ali
December 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
542 chenier
edited…..
The parents, worshipping at the altar of the God Respectability, cannot tolerate the idea that people who would think they are the sort of people who would leave their children alone every night to go to the bar with their friends, would think that they were responsible for their child’s death.
So they hide the body and pretend the child was abducted. Claiming very loudly that the child was abducted enables them to sidestep the whole issue of what the hell they were doing, and the Great God Respectability is satisfied once more.
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Chenier, think again, they didn’t succeed is it. They admitted that they left the children alone in the apartment for a couple of nights.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
551
Garth
“Take a bit of advice. Get those stupid sceptical photographs of Madeleine off your site!”
They’re all over the web…what are you on about?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
532 firestar
back to portugal…
i hope they don’t have to slum it on a “piston-engined” [sic] plane
actually gerrykins they tend to be turboprops nowadays (that’s a jet with propellors)
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Buenas tardes to all you wonderful posters on here. I’m the Costa Blanca Anorak lurker - read it religiously (well, not exactly with me rosary beads) mostly with a serious Jameson whiskey of sorts. I have posted a few lines on here before when i feel a tad vexed at the whole feckin’ McC circus. I’m waiting - as most of you on here are - for the good news. When it happens, i shall hire Ryanair and have a serious friggin hooley in me house here, all invited. I have a constant open bar - - lets hope the rats end up behind bars, cold, festering and rotting. Good luck, slainte. Well done TB. To all of you: keep up the good work and hope for justice for M……x
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
549
delboy
The normal meaning of the word “clarified” means to make clearer.
In the case of Mr Mitchell, “clarrifyed” means to confuse and obstruct…ludicrously.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
I think it was funny when Bush said he wants to win hearts and minds after bombing them to kingdom come.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
544
Stevo Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
540
Garth
You’re as bad as that Comical Ali guy in Iraq. I’ll say one thing for you Gary…you’ll be there when the ship goes down and you’re the last man standing. I can’t say that’s having bottle…that’s more madness.
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Take a bit of advice. Get those stupid sceptical photographs of Madeleine off your site!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
543
pat
Could be. If Gerry was playing tennis and Kate was looking after the kids that afternoon, if Madeleine had a bad accident - something like a big fall onto the steps, she may not have died instantly. Kate may not have had a cellphone to call anyone and might just have felt totally overwhelmed by the situation. She may have systematically put the twins in the bedroom to keep them out, carried Madeleine upstairs and treated her the best she could. Pride may have taken a big part in it. After all, you’re a doctor so why take Madeleine to a doctor? The first aid might not have been successful and Madeleine may have been in a coma and losing blood.
Kate may have felt that if someone came in, they’d accuse her of not looking after the kids properly to have allowed such a thing to happen. Next thing you have a state of panic. By the time Gerry comes in, perhaps Madeleine was teetering on the edge of life and death?
All conjecture but it’s hard to think of any accidental death that makes sense other than this kind of scenario.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
comical ALI…comical CLARRY…eh…..I see the connection…..
December 4th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Totje
OK….I’m off to the kitchen to prepare some pumpkin soup…no more cardboard fish for me..!!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
540 Garth
537 Totje
524
Rationalist, we agree again. It doesn’t make sense. Lots doesn’t make sense. We miss a lot of pieces of the jigsaw. I hope the PJ’s collected them and has a few good puzzlers around.
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You hope the PJ collected them? Are you joking Totje? The PJ have made the jigsaw ten times harder. And not only that, they’re trying to fit pieces that blatantly dont fit!
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Hi Garth, allways glad to “see” you!
No dear, we disagree. It’s the first PJ that lost all the pieces, the press spread them in an attempt to sell more papers, they turned the pieces down and bend and twisted them maybe even cutted a few of them or coloured them, and this PJ has to find all the lost and broken pieces and make it fit.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Comical ali blast from the past……..we beat the americans……..as the tanks rolled in behind him….ha ha ha…….now thats deluded….
December 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
544
Stevo Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
540
Garth
You’re as bad as that Comical Ali guy in Iraq. I’ll say one thing for you Gary…you’ll be there when the ship goes down and you’re the last man standing. I can’t say that’s having bottle…that’s more madness.
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Do you wanna put your money where you big mouth is?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
540
Garth
You’re as bad as that Comical Ali guy in Iraq. I’ll say one thing for you Gary…you’ll be there when the ship goes down and you’re the last man standing. I can’t say that’s having bottle…that’s more madness.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
stevo
do you think it was premeditated euthanasea and the others knew about it
December 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
Why cover up an accidental death?
I think posters are overlooking the personalities of the people involved. Within living memory individuals murdered their spouses because they didn’t want the ’shame’ of going through the divorce courts.
The altar of the Great God Respectability has had more than its fair share of sacrifices; I think Madeleine was one of them.
G&K wanted to go to the bar every night with their friends. They didn’t want people to think they were the sort of people who wanted to go to the bar every night.
So instead of taking them to the creche, or hiring a personal babysitter, they simply left them.
One child dies an accidental death; choking with or without an unsuccessful tracheotomy.
The parents, worshipping at the altar of the God Respectability, cannot tolerate the idea that people who would think they are the sort of people who would leave their children alone every night to go to the bar with their friends, would think that they were responsible for their child’s death.
So they hide the body and pretend the child was abducted. Claiming very loudly that the child was abducted enables them to sidestep the whole issue of what the hell they were doing, and the Great God Respectability is satisfied once more.
And they get to make lots of money out of it, so Mammon is happy as well…
December 4th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
December 4th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
476 Stevo
Yes, I hadn’t considered the evil angle where somebody, like Maxine Carr, colludes with the murderer. I agree they as as guilty as the perpetrator, although sometimes there may be mitigating circumstances - perhaps?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
537
Totje Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
524
Rationalist, we agree again. It doesn’t make sense. Lots doesn’t make sense. We miss a lot of pieces of the jigsaw. I hope the PJ’s collected them and has a few good puzzlers around.
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You hope the PJ collected them? Are you joking Totje? The PJ have made the jigsaw ten times harder. And not only that, they’re trying to fit pieces that blatantly dont fit!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
522
that could be feasable
December 4th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
525
Portia Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Somewhere in the middle is a business deal gone drastically bad. Anyone see The Godfather
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Yeah its me………….now wasamatta?
December 4th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
524
It doesn’t make sense. Lots doesn’t make sense. We miss a lot of pieces of the jigsaw. I hope the PJ’s collected them and has a few good puzzlers around.
Rationalist, we agree again.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
maybe the friends knew maddie was very difficult and a handful and in the spur of the moment had misplaced sympathy and feal it’s too late to with draw as they had a part in disposing the body.
December 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
528 Firestar
YES!!
December 4th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
533
delboy Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Any news today…NO……any sightings today…..NO……oh well we have still earned £1666.00….not bad if you can get it ..eh!…..mr average does nowt at work =eff off yer sacked..
Makes ya sick don’t it
December 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Any news today…NO……any sightings today…..NO……oh well we have still earned £1666.00….not bad if you can get it ..eh!…..mr average does nowt at work =eff off yer sacked..
December 4th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
has this been posted yet?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/04/wmaddy104.xml