Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
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December 4th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
I firmly believe that “Mommy Dearest” is the “dark horse” in this whole sad scenario! Always have, always will!
December 4th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
783…chenier
Thanks for the link. Catching up some work now (taxes buuuh). I’ll check it later.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
TB,why no smell of death attached to GM,is he an innocent dupe,did he touch a corpse,according to Dave’s link this is a missing persons case,or are the PJ a bit slow on the uptake.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Mike
Im not a horse! I was born here but my parents werent horses
December 4th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
666 Portia Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Word Origin of “bane”.
OLD ENGLISH bana (thing causing death, poison) of Germanic origin.
Where on earth did that come from?
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could this be the message we have been waiting for?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
He was born here - hence your stable and horse statement - he was born in a stable but alas is not a horse (alas in his case not mine)
December 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
800 trainer,
do you want Kate M’Scan to come give you some pep talk on Child Welfare Issues?!
December 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
I think the PJ is really putting the heat on O’Brien and Tanner. The latest press releases from Portugal have emphasized that without serious cooperation, this investigation is going to carry on interminably and result in more formal suspects being named.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
815
Ariel Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Mike 801
I am said horse
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Your exact, uncryptic meaning here is ……………… ?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Matt
Val
Thank you will have a mooch about and find it
December 4th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
815
Ariel
Where in Ireland was he born?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Hi Tony Bennett I hope there will be justice for Stuart as well as Madeleine
December 4th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Murat lost his eye in a motorbike accident
December 4th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
794 Ariel
Stevo post 733 included a website about an interview with Catriona Baker. I read it and
that”s where I noted the discrepancy.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
814…Pray For Little Soul
Always a possibility….but nothing has been nailed yet as regards that.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
791
val Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
733 Stevo
I just scanned the Nanny interview and don”t know whether this is her remark, or DM comment”I was feeding her less than 3 hrs. before she disappeared”” If true it throws GM”S
assertion that he asked one of the tennis players to check on Kate at 6.30pm to see
if KM wanted to bring the children out, but they were apparently getting bathed and ready
for bed. AT 7.30pm GM had the children settled. If Madeleine was in the Creche at nearly
7pm being fed what time did she leave? and this is the witness the McCanns are relying on?
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val,
i know. that line about feeding her [Madeleine] less than 3 hrs. before she disappeared doesn’t make sense in the timeline does it? i’d say she’s just confused. i’ll pray for her little soul
December 4th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
812
Tony Bennett Says:
765 - Taybie the Saxon wrote: “And surely by now if the ’scent of death’ had been detected on the Tapas 7,
There was a report in several newspapers back in September that a house in Devon had been searched by Eddie the cadaver sniffer dog from South Yorkshire Police, and that he had found the ’smell of death’ on an article of clothing found in the house. This was in connection with the investigation into the death of Madeleine McCann. Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner live in Devon.
To my mind, either Russell O’Brien or Jane Tanner would be in the frame here, quite possibly Jane Tanner, after her Freudian slip on McCannorama, when she said ‘I carried her’ instead of ‘He [the abductor] carried her’.
I’m surprised there has been so little discussion of this potentially hugely significant incident on all the various McCann discussion forums.
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I’ve read one discussion about it. There’s a question of whether it was OB’s slacks, or JTs blouse–or possibly both. No one could say for certain.
Also, I haven’t heard if it’s been confirmed where OB and JT were on June 10.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
788…Ariel
They were the speculations being aired early on in the case.
The one I think was probably most realistic was the male
companion of Diane Webster….and she is keeping very quiet
indeed.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Mike 801
I am said horse
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
784
Matt. Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
770…Taybie the Saxon
Well…there have been rumours that Tapas No 10 was a Diplomat, or a High Ranked
Businessman etc…..Other suggestions that No 10 was the male companion of Diane
Webester. Fiona Payne’s mother who “disappeared” quickly. There was also rumours
about a family member who was with the party…and who was supposed to have had a furious row with the Mccann’s on the night of the “disappearence”…and he also
departed PDL very quickly.
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Matt,
i came here the other day ITCHING to ask if it couldn’t be an influential or important party donor. we’ve seen the cash for honours saga - it stank. money makes people do weird things. yes, even politicians.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
754
Q Says:
505
Logic Says:
456 Maria
Someone took this child! Why is it so hard to believe it could have happened? Unfortunately it happens every day, and it’s terrifying how it quickly the it can happen. I believe there was plenty of opportunity for a predator that night, and he took it.
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You’re absolutely right. Someone may have taken her. Probably if it happened it would have been 2 people–maybe one stupid enough to walk Frankenstein-style down the street. But from many angles it could also have been faked.
Whatever happened it doesn’t excuse the subsequent merchandising of the childs image (her image for sale on the McCs website instead of given away freely to help locate her), and all the subsequent lying and as* covering by the McCns.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
765 - Taybie the Saxon wrote: “And surely by now if the ’scent of death’ had been detected on the Tapas 7, Murat, Malinka, the MW staff et.c we would know about it…”
REPLY: But, Taybie the Saxon , we already do know about it.
There was a report in several newspapers back in September that a house in Devon had been searched by Eddie the cadaver sniffer dog from South Yorkshire Police, and that he had found the ’smell of death’ on an article of clothing found in the house. This was in connection with the investigation into the death of Madeleine McCann. Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner live in Devon.
To my mind, either Russell O’Brien or Jane Tanner would be in the frame here, quite possibly Jane Tanner, after her Freudian slip on McCannorama, when she said ‘I carried her’ instead of ‘He [the abductor] carried her’.
I’m surprised there has been so little discussion of this potentially hugely significant incident on all the various McCann discussion forums.
So, in summary, Taybie, YES to Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner being directly implicated ih the disappearance of Madeleine; NO (with great respect) to your theory that a 10th, hitherto unknown, person was involved
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
806
Ariel Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
801 Mike
Im really sorry to have to break it to you but he is
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If a man is born in a stable, does it make him a horse?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
802
Can’t say No Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Where are the mcc ?
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Planning their final get-away?
December 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
798…Can’t say No
Hi, Can’t say No…..saw your post re Maria Thresa being Portuguese.
Thank you.
December 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Mike
So am I so I understand your devastation
December 4th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Good link from Dave,puts the twin of Tanners sprog scam right in the bin.Any truth in rumours that they are in Portugal,or abroad. http://www.policiajudiciaria.pt/htm/Ingles/missing_person/madeleine.htm
December 4th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
801 Mike
Im really sorry to have to break it to you but he is
December 4th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
I’ll try to return later
December 4th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
793…Matt.
Cancel that Totje.
I was in error…..it does mention it in Portuguese…on th Official Page.
The quotes were higher up the page.