Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
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December 4th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
918 stevo
I personally think the pj have been half heartedly releasing info on abduction cos they never ever believed it. Letting the mccs think they were on their side. All the effort has been put into investigating them imo
December 4th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
891
Rationalist Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:19 pm
542
Chenier
To me that doesn’t explain Tanner’s ’siting’ of the so called abductor..nor the willingness of the Tapas crew to go along with the McC’s…what could their interest be in supporting the MC’s claims…knowing that the police would be asking all of them where they were and what they were doing that night?..Doctors are required to give police reports all the time in hospitals. I would find it hard to believe that they would not expect to be questioned very closely. He also would have to have been incredibly calm to walk out and have a chat with Wilkins…who remarked on his demeanor…However critical one could be of the parenting skills of the McC’s, I seriously doubt that G could have returned to the bar and waited for K to discover her own child missing from her bed?
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Well, given that JT is the only person to have claimed to have seen Bundleman, I’m not sure of the point you are making.
There appears to be some doubt as to whether the Tapas 9 did give an accurate account of their activities that evening. Certainly the PJ appear to have their doubts…
The point of the Tapas 9 supporting the claims of regular checks on their children is, I would have thought, obvious. It served to reinforce the idea that they were all responsible parents; no bad thing if a child has disappeared.
As for doctors being required to give statements to the police all the time in hospitals, I really don’t think that’s the case. It might happen in the A&E but none of the Tapas 9 are A&E medics.
Most people unaquainted with investigations have no idea just how hard it is to maintain a coherent story; they seem not to realise that if you tell one lie thenyou have to tell 10 more in order to try and make it hang together. And neither Gerry nor Kate strike me as underestimating their abilities.
I suspect that Wilkins asked himself whether Gerry was involved; there would be no point otherwise in his comments about Gerry being very calm. But people can appear calm under conditions of very great stress; Ian Huntley, for example, seems to have managed it.
And leaving Kate to discover the absence of Madeleine has nothing to do with parenting skills; it has to do with the marital relationship. A wholly different kettle of fish…
December 4th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
901 Stevo
757 Val (page 38) my memo to you.
You have been offsite for a while and obviously not seen it . Rather than me repeat it all, could you scroll down and let me know , like you I find the set-up very puzzling and wonder
when the “Directors” hold Meetings to approve strategy, and how many others are employed
in decision making.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
911…Stevo
Well, Mr Brown certainly has such a problem too.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
904
WTF Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Does anyone think the press have been instructed to cool the story. All a bit odd, especially the express.
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WTF,
well, looks like they’re cooling it but we know it’s all about The Dinero at the end of the day. so they’re having a moment of silence while they figure out how they’ll ride those waves…
December 4th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
908 WTF
If Madeleine disappeared before Kate got there at 10pm I have no idea why the PJ would “officially” say she disappeared at 10:40pm. It makes no sense does it? I think there’s a huge clue to all us amateur sleuths that the timeline is clearly false.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
panorama link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7100000/newsid_7103400/7103460.stm?bw=nb&mp=wm&news=1&nol_storyid=7103460&bbcws=1
at 10 minutes it starts….
12 minutes it gets really interesting
December 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
910…WTF
Sure….watched the odd episode when there wasn’t a lot on.
Fair light entertainment too it was.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
That black suitcase in the picture always gives me the creeps
December 4th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
909 stevo
Good point, didnt think of that. God how boring will that book be. they should name it “biased and bullshit”
December 4th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
she’s back! well, sans humidifier……
and no, didn’t get stuck in the lift/levitator. was promptly marched to the kitchen by my 10yr old to make that tuna sandwich she, er, ordered about an hour and a half ago…
so come on, amuse me
December 4th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
894…Stevo
And indeed….those little nuggets of pristine gold info are hard to find.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
907 Matt
I remember Daktari! I was at a place here in the summer where a man keeps a pair of pet lions. One of them he calls Clarence too.
Clarence Mitchell…the cross-eyed PR man. Things go in 3’s don’t they? Madeleine has an eye problem, Murat does…maybe CM too?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
907 matt
Didyou watch daktari too?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:31 pm
904 WTF
I think they probably had the idea for a book after a month or two so they wrote it as they went along…hence daily headlines. Their book was just “completed” so I think they’re fed up of what they started. Imagine the headline writer for the Express in the past 7 months? Right now they need shore leave.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
905 stevo
Wasnt 10.40 the time the police were supposed to have been called?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
894…Stevo
Careful….you might get mistaken for Clarence…(going cross-eyed that is).
(Like Daktari’s Clarence.)
December 4th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
885 Missisusa OK . Will do.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
791
val
I remember reading the 3 hours comment but because the whole article seems to have been supplied by Ms Baker’s friend I didn’t really register too much of it but that’s a great point you made. 10pm minus 3 hours is 7pm. Worse still… the PJ say Madeleine disappeared at 10:40pm on the official police site. That makes it worse by 40 mins and throws out any of the McAlibis.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Does anyone think the press have been instructed to cool the story. All a bit odd, especially the express.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
has postman pat been washing cuddle cat again?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
897…WTF
I hope their hopes are well and truely dashed.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
798
Can’t say No
Remember to email me sometime and I’ll put a link to your site on mine
December 4th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
892 WTF 890 Matt Keeping an eye on public opinion and having a jolly are, afterall, more important than looking after little children…..
December 4th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
894…Stevo
Was interested to see that quote by Philomena to the Press re
eye-defect, (posted by Rosemary), being said as early as 4th May.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
766 dummy
Email my site sometime with your pub…I’ll give it a plug if you like. Or…next time I’m there drop in for a beer.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
896 matt
I suspect if they get off with it, they would be hoping for career in the media
December 4th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
892…WTF
They certainly are…why I don’t know….as favouring by Public Opinion
isn’t much help in a Court of Law.
You’d think they’d try to get their priorities right…but no.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
885
Nemesis Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Have just been on the Panorama transcript- but cant find the part Tony B was talking about when JT said I . Does it appear on the transcript?
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Someone has given me a transcript, but it does not indlcude the I. But anyway, you have to listen to it yourself.
Just go back to the BBC Documentation , BBC Website, search Panorama.. at about 10 minutes into the film I guess she starts talking. It is towards the end of her interview.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
889 Matt
No worries…it’s easily done - I’m trawling through hundreds of pages to find info for my site and going cross-eyed with it all!