Madeleine McCann: The Scenic 17, Dr Denny Says And DNA
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS page 21: “New DNA tests could unlock the mystery of lost Madeleine”
More DNA tests at the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham And this after the DNA tests proved inconclusive…
“Seventeen human cells could provide a major breakthrough in the Madeleine McCann mystery…The DNA samples are being examined by scientists in Britain and Portuguese detectives believe the evidence could unlock an investigation which is now in its eighth month”
The Tapas 7. The Tapas 9. The Scenic 17…
Guilhermino Encarnacao, head of the Policia Judiciaria in the Algarve, says: “We have asked the laboratory to carry out more tests and exhaust every possibility of obtaining conclusive results”
Says Forensic scientist Dr Ronald Denny (not working on the case): “A cell is negligible – you can just about see it under a microscope. It’s a sample someone would leave behind with the touch of a finger. But when placed with certain biochemicals a small amount of DNA grows to a size that can be analysed”
“GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry” are “both 39”
THE SUN page 15: “Only 17 cells of DNA in hol car”
“Cops looking for Madeleine McCann are banking on ‘a smidgen’ of DNA evidence. Scientists have found just 17 cells on samples taken from a hire car rented by Kate and Gerry McCann and their holiday flat”
Says independent forensic expert Dr Ronald Denny: “It is not a hopeless task. If they have 17 cells then they can carry it off very effectively in Birmingham, one of the leading labs in the world”
DAILY MAIL page 5: “Mission Impossible – Forensic evidence too poor to solve mystery of Madeleine, say police”
But Dr Denny is telling two papers otherwise…
A source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “It is highly unlikely they will find a DNA connection…If everybody refuses to make statements, which is perfectly possible, we will be left with our hands tied. This is a case which could hang by a thread for years and we may never be able to prove what actually happened to that child”
But what about Dr Denny. Why don’t they ask Dr Denny?
Says Dr Denny: “A person, or their possessions, have to be present for the cells to come off”
DAILY MIRROR page 7: “Maddy: Smidgen of DNA will work?”
Dr Denny is on the case, or not. But the “independent British expert” does have an opinion which is able to share with all of us
DAILY STAR page 9: “MADDIE: IT’S ALL DOWN TO 17 CELLS”
Dr Denny is talking to Star readers…
“Top cop in blast at private eyes” – Former deputy chief constable of Manchester Police John Stalker says of Metodo 3: “I’m not impressed with these people at all. I’d be very surprised if they get anywhere”
This is the same Stalker who delivered “MY VERDICT” to Express reader back in October
“There’s a world of difference in following a paper chase and finding a flesh-and-blood child”
Or a newspaper chase…
DAILY TELEGRAPH page 11: “Madeleine tests are ‘mission impossible’”
Says a source in 24 Horas: “The samples reportedly include microscopic spots of blood from the Ocean Club apartment where Madeleine went missing and ‘bodily fluids’ and hair from the Renault Scenic hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter’s disappearance. The samples are so small that, while it will not be impossible to find a DNA link between the car, apartment and Madeleine, it’s highly unlikely The tests being carried out are extremely complex”
But Dr Denny says…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry’s friends have consistently said they are happy to be re-interviewed by police if necessary. Indeed, they are keen to help if it clears up any inconsistencies. They, like Gerry and Kate, have nothing to hide”
THE GUARDIAN and THE INDEPENDENT: “No Madeleine news today
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December 4th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
863 val
Isn’t Donegal in Eire? If you’re born in Scotland, England, Northern Ireland or Wales you’re considered British….but if your parents are from Eire can’t you have dual citizenship? Cutting through the crap…what is the criteria to be called a Scot?
December 4th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
james effin whale………..see what I mean matt no national pride anymore,
December 4th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
948 stevo
OOH the plot thickens. or mabe the fashion police have called him infor over use of pink shirt!
December 4th, 2007 at 9:59 pm
936
Ade Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
922 chenier
the “appear to be calm” thingie can have a totally innocent expanation
drugs
they could be using drugs of some form to mask their emotions
after 14 bottles of cheap plonk they were probably pretty well pissed too…
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I like your notion of an ‘innocent’ explanation…
Worth bearing in mind that hyper active children are prescribed amphetamines, not sedatives; the Daily Mail’s much loved ‘Kiddy Coke’.
It is, like other amphetamines, highly addictive, and there are known to be cases where other household members have become addicted to it, diverting the medication from the person it’s been prescribed for.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Stevo 942
Apparently someone has done a photoshop picture showing the bundleman in place of Ringo Starr on the Abbey Road zebra crossing picture. Can’t find the link now.
Wasn’t you by an chance was it?!?!?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
845 WTF
Considering how close CM has been to the McCanns, the PJ may even regard him as witholding evidence and might have turned the heat on him as well.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
944…delboy
Don’t worry Delboy…we’ve still got the likes of James O’Brien, James Whale
and Clarence Mitchell sticking up for all things British.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
943
Taybie the Saxon
If the McCanns are in Portugal at the moment, that would be front page news…one would expect.
Do you think they’re that slippery to have made it on a plane bound for Portugal without an airport employee spilling the beans to the press?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
838
Mike Hondemburst
McCann is an Irish name is it not? His family are from Donegal are they not?
Ok, he sounds like a Scot…but he’s Irish alright.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
national pride eh! whats that then,we lost that in uk years ago……thas why we have scumbags going abroad and loosing a kid..and then try to make some brass out of it….
December 4th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Tony Bennett 812
I should also have pointed to the fact that a person has to be dead a couple of hours before the scent of death is produced. So if as has been reported the dogs picked up the scent in the apartment then this is a possible indicator that M was kept there for some time after she died. This would make it even more notable if the scent was only ever picked up on KM. I still say it’s not impossible for there to be someone out there who had the scent on them but who wasn’t tested by the dogs because the PJ don’t know who he/she is.
If the rumours are true that the McCanns are in Portugal at the moment, assisting the PJ, then maybe this could be because the McCanns want to bring forward extra names/details that they didn’t think important previously…
December 4th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Tanner must have been listening to I Am The Walrus by the Beatles…the lyrics talk about an Eggman.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
904
WTF Says:
‘Does anyone think the press have been instructed to cool the story. All a bit odd, especially the express.’
no, i think they’re just waiting a bit to see what happens, as in, which way the inquiry will go. just my opinion of course.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
757val
621 Stevo
Finding anything like the Mcann “Shop” would be beyond me so it”s great that so many of you post a relevant website for us to be kept informed. THANKS
Regarding your info on the Private Limited Co. set up to receive the Donations, don”t you have to have Two Shareholders?
REPLY: You need a MINIMUM of two shareholders. It’s not apparent who the actual shareholders are. The FAQ page on the FindMadeleine site doesn’t say who they are. It does list directors but they don’t necessarily have to be shareholders. They are Peter Hubner; a retired consultant; Brian Kennedy, a retired head teacher; John McCann, a medical representative; Esther McVey, managing director of a public relations & communications company; Doug Skehan, clinical director in cardiology at Glenfield Hospital; Philip Tomlinson, a retired solicitor and former coroner in Leicestershire; and Michael Linnett, a retired accountant.
Interesting that they have a coroner on board!
Also, besides Auditors, who are theAccountants, and who was the female who made the announcment that the McCanns would not be able to use Funds to pay their Mortgages.
REPLY: Their auditors are a London based firm called Haysmacintyre. I imagine they are also doing their accounts. But more specifically, anyone can do accounting work for a private company so I expect Mr Kennedy is the likely choice for supplying day to day accounting services.
Finally, had a Charity been set up initially,presumably it would not be allowed to make a profit nor pay Tax .Would a Private Co. be liable for Tax on bank interest quite substantial. in this case.
REPLY: Absolutely. Interest is income and so is taxable - irrespective of who you are.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Oh yes its …uk ..v..portugal now,
reckon we have a shit representative team though the mcs, mind you cant be any worse than the football team really can it? ok ok IKNOW THE FOOTBALLERS HAVNT LOST A KID )BUT WHAT THE HELL THOUGHT I WOULD GET A DIG IN……
effinel just thought tapas 9 nearly a team eh!
December 4th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
925…Anca
Yep….No wonder all is quiet from McCann Mansions.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
893 stevo,
very cool, i’ve given up on trying to catch up on today’s posts. looking forward to seeing your updates.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
922 chenier
the “appear to be calm” thingie can have a totally innocent expanation
drugs
they could be using drugs of some form to mask their emotions
after 14 bottles of cheap plonk they were probably pretty well pissed too…
December 4th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
934 stevo
I personally have faith in the pj. I think national pride is at stake here
December 4th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
923
WTF
I think if the PJ really did do all that the McCanns wanted in the beginning they’d have been on one wild goose chase after another. They haven’t bungled anything IMO. I think they’re being very systematic and will triumph in the end.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
927…Taybie the Saxon
Ah….understood.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
928 Stevo
Cos it might have jogged someones memory of the egg man!
December 4th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
915
Nemesis Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
That black suitcase in the picture always gives me the creeps
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Nemesis,
the body language in that photo (kate’s, that is, and the way she bows her head) makes you think it was either an intense or tender moment. i’ve found myself wishing there was a photo showing how the suitcase was lifted out of the trunk.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
924…Pray For Little Soul
“How We Did It and Got Away With It”…would be a good title.
( if the worst were to happen).
December 4th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
898
Stevo
Thank you Stevo, the link is on it’s way.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Here’s something strange.
Considering the number of interviews of Kate or Gerry alone you can count on the fingers of one hand, why didn’t Tanner have her partner with her on Panorama?
December 4th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Matt 784
I was thinking more of a local. Anyone who came to PDL from abroad that week would’ve been traced, whereas a local leaves no such traces.
Pray for Little Soul 792 & 797 & 839
As you point out, a local would have more of an idea as to what to do and where to go. Certainly there would have to be a high degree of trust between the killer and the helper, but it’s still possible
Tony Bennett 812
As I understand it, the news reports about the scent of death being detected at a house in Devon have been seriously called into question. As I said in my post, if that had been the case then at the very least you might have expected a few more arguidos by now. As other posters have been pointing out, there is doubt as to whether the scent was even detected on GM. If KM is the only one then maybe her explanation is true about coming into contact with corpses at work. Otherwise you could be left with a theory that KM somehow killed Maddy and disposed of her body either before or during the Tapas meal without involving another single person, and without anyone else knowing about it - a seemingly impossible task. The task would’ve been far simpler with the assistance of someone outside the immediate circle - just theorizing about theories you understand.
December 4th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
924 pray for little souls
LOL
Think we should trademark that! Mabe we should write our own version
December 4th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
good news
“3.12.07
New UK Ambassador to Portugal
ONE OF the United Kingdom’s youngest-ever ambassadors to Portugal, Alexander Ellis, 40, took over from John Buck in September. Between 2005 and 2007 he was seconded as Adviser to the President of the European Commission. He is married to Maria Teresa Adegas and has a son.” The President of the European Commission is Mr. Durão Barroso, former Portuguese Prime-Minister. And yes, his wife, Maria Teresa Adegas, is Portuguese. And yes, the McCann were named formal suspects in September.” (Paulo Reis)
“Last week there was a crunch meeting led by the head of the investigation with magistrates and the British Ambassador to Portugal at Faro police station over the letters of appeal.
Ordinarily it can take up to six months before such requests are processed through the diplomatic channels.
But the British Ambassador Alex Ellis is said to have speeded up the process by waving through some of the bureaucracy, although the Foreign Office have denied his direct involvement.”
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23425529-details/McCanns+may+have+to+return+to+Portugal+to+be+quizzed+by+police/article.do
December 4th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
914
WTF Says:
December 4th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
909 stevo
Good point, didnt think of that. God how boring will that book be. they should name it “biased and bullshit”
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“biased and bullshit” cum “B&B”…? how apt!
maybe even a series, like “B&B Heaven”, “B&B Hell”, “How to Spot Check a B&B”