Madeleine McCann: Tapas Nine Meet In Secret And Paulo Pereira Cristovao Accuses
MADDY WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “Madeleine parents in secret summit with the Tapas 9 friends”
Doesn’t the McCanns plus the Tapas Nine makes the Tapas 11, or the Elevenses 11?
Page 5: “’Suspicions’ over the Tapas Nine summit’” – The meeting is called “cloak and dagger”, says the Express. Friends of the McCanns call the reunion “highly emotional” and “deeply sad”
A sources says: “They wanted to talk about possibly being interviewed by the police again and what that may entail”
And they can. It is not breaking any law for the group to meet
“McCanns ‘guilty of neglect’” – Paulo Pereira Cristovao, who used to work for the Policia Judiciaria and now heads the organisation to find missing children in Portugal, says: “When [the McCanns] told the police that they went to dinner and left the children at home they confessed to the crime of abandonment. They should have been charged for that crime on the first day”
But they were not. And others who have tried to pursue them have failed
THE SUN page 17: “TAPAS 9 IN SECRET MEETING”
This is the fist time the diners have met since the night Madeleine disappeared, although they have spoken to each other via phone and email
Kate and Gerry McCann are “doctors”
Says a source: “They and their friends should not be meeting to discuss the case”. A friend of the couple called the meting as an “expression of support”
DAILY MAIL page 30: “Tapas Nine ‘talks tactics’ - Portuguese police are furious over friends’ summit”
A source close to the Portuguese investigation says: “The McCanns left Portugal the moment they were made suspects and refused to answer many key questions. Now they and their friends are about to be re-interviewed and it is revealed they have met up in secret in a hotel”
Says the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell: “It was the first time the group had sat down together since Madeleine’s disappearance but they have been in constant email and phone contact”
DAILY MIRROR page 12: “TAPAS 9 HOLD SECRET MEETING TO TALK TACTICS”
Watched by police and paparazzi, how did this secret meeting come to be arranged, and how did it pass unnoticed?
The McCanns, Dr David Payne (“heart specialist”), Fiona (his “doctor wife”), Dr Russell O’Brien (”hospital consultant”), Jane Tanner, Dr Matthew Oldfield (“endocrinologist”), Rachel (doctor’s wife) and Dr Payne’s mother Dianne Webster all met in one Leicestershire hotel and no-one saw?
“CHIEF SLAM McCANNS” – Paul Pereira Cristovao says…
DAILY STAR page 15: “COPS PROBE TAPAS SEVEN SECRET CHAT”
And then there were 7…
“Under English law such a meeting between the McCanns, who are both suspects, and their key witness pals would be banned during a criminal investigation”
THE TIMES page 9: “Kate and Gerry McCann deny the Tapas Nine met ‘to get story straight’”
Says Clarence Mitchell: “This was in no way to get their stories straight. This is the age of e-mail and phone. They could have done that a long time ago”
Although emails and phone calls can be monitored
Tapas 9 member Rachael Oldfield is “36” and a “recruitment consultant”
Such are the facts
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann: Tapas 9’s secret meeting”
Says a source: “It was a show of solidarity under police claims that one or two had wanted to change their stories. That is just not the case and the meeting showed that. It was a meeting to express support by the friends and just to see each other again. They hadn’t seen each other properly”
Pereira Cristovao heads the Portuguese Association for Missing Children (APCD), which leads the hunt for missing children in Portugal.
Says he: “I was asked what I thought about inviting the McCanns to the APCD. I said no, because they’re suspects. She is (the ninth child on the PJ’s missing people page) but the case involves a criminal investigation which is still on the boil, with the parents as suspects. We have eight children whose disappearances are unexplained”
It’s a “snub”, says the Telegraph
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Madeleine is still a missing child and she went missing in Portugal so we would hope that she would be treated as such by this organisation but ultimately that is a matter for them”
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December 14th, 2007 at 1:31 am
Yeah I think you’re right, must have frightend them off! How strangeshe thought of a goat herder, very similar. My ‘premonition’ or whatever was that it was summer (northern hemisphere) too with very lush grass. Let’s wait and see huh, if it ever does get solved and if Christoine or I were right in part it’ll be something to reflect on for sure.
Cheers
December 13th, 2007 at 8:27 am
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Angela Says:
December 13th, 2007 at 1:02 am
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We seem to be the only ones left on here !! everyone else has gone to the new threads. I think it is enough that you have felt what you have, Christine and you are of the same mind, that Maddie is/was in that sort of abandoned out-of-the-way place up in the hills. The water may be nearby too and she also got a goat-herder bringing his animals down to better pasture and coming across the body so that would be a result too. I just wish they could find SOMETHING and very soon.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:02 am
504 and 502, no that’s all but i’ve felt that all the way through, wooden cottage, grass clearing, birds, isolated area, don’t know about water. Just more like a hunters or trampers maybe small brown wooden cottage.
Had the same feelings about a girl murdered in NZ 10 years ago and that there were white railings nearby and I was so surprised when the news report showed white railing beside the road on the turn off to where her body was found.
But look who knows, I’m honestly not one of those nutters - and I know there are plenty out there. Some people just get those intuitive feelings. bit like when you may get a feeling of not being in a safe environment. Something I want my children to always be aware of.
I hate it when I get those ‘feelings’ had that for about a month before my husband had a major car crash, knew someone was going to happen but couldn’t figure out what it was. Kept me awake at night. My husband was in an horrific crash, he wasn’t killed but the other driver at fault was. Another time pulled up outside a holiday house we were going to rent and had a heavy feeling of sadness and later found out that a woman was murdred in the house-in the room we stayed in too. Glad we didn’t hear about that until the day we checked out.
Look I’ve been the biggest sceptic out at times but sometimes you get these feelings. Look it’s probably all an overactive imagination but..I don’t know
I suggest that if trained psychics or intuitive people can help solve this mystery then go for it.
I do think it very odd that the priest has changed his attitude.
the Australian psychic Deb Webber has said she believes Madeleine was smuggled out through an airport. YOu can google her credentials.
December 12th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
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Ann Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 11:25 am
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Angela Says:
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Told Christine and she was really interested, and also asks, have you felt anything else about this ? did you feel that the place was deserted and did you feel there was any water nearby ?She says she wishes we could go out there and look for ourselves because at least we have a pretty good idea of what we are looking for, unlike any of those searching….perhaps the “Express” would like to fly us out !!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Having lunch (GMT+1 over here) discussion about the priests behaviour and photo’s at the next forum. So I’ll hop over there to post my thoughts. Some of you made very sensible observations imo. Thanks.
December 12th, 2007 at 11:25 am
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Angela Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I have always sensed -and I shyly claim, some intuitive psychic ability that has spooked not only family and friends but also myself from time-to-time. I believe Madeleine was abducted into a remore mountain or hillside area, a small wooden cottage in a grassed clearing surrounded by ‘woods’ or forest, miles from any populated areas. I can see the place and it is very quiet, and I note that it may be a similar setting to that on post quote 481.
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For the record, I am going to send your posting to Christine who - I have no doubt - will be more than a little interested. have you come up with anything else ?
December 12th, 2007 at 11:21 am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=501440&in_page_id=1770
The paper reported: “An internal document, sent by the Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, orders British diplomats ‘to avoid offering support’ to Robert Murat, one of the suspects in the Maddie case, unless charges are presented against him.”
December 12th, 2007 at 11:01 am
I’ts obvious there was made pressure on two members of the tapas9 not to change statements. How far can the MCcanns go before the British Police is reacting? The victim was a British citizen too. Doesn’t the girl have any rights, because she’s likely dead?
December 12th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I have always sensed -and I shyly claim, some intuitive psychic ability that has spooked not only family and friends but also myself from time-to-time. I believe Madeleine was abducted into a remore mountain or hillside area, a small wooden cottage in a grassed clearing surrounded by ‘woods’ or forest, miles from any populated areas. I can see the place and it is very quiet, and I note that it may be a similar setting to that on post quote 481.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:26 am
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December 12th, 2007 at 8:14 am
Hi(i’ve been on twice as Xhosa but saw the questions re SA from last night and decided to use this name for now!)
The stats in the newspaper say half of all crime in SA occurs in Joburg, followed by Natal…Honestly, those stats are skewed anyway cos they also said most crime is in the suburbs (ie.not in the townships) which is only cos when crime gets reported in the townships, the police don’t do anything about it-if they come at all- or they don’t come! I’m black, mother of 2, and am praying my husband will further his studies (he went straight to work after doing his Honours) so we can leave this country.
I know, crime exists everywhere and it could happen the very day we step off the airport in whatever country we’d move to, but the odds of us being victims now…I walk in fear when I take my toddlers for walks, I live in a gated community-and this is in Cape Town…In one of the proclaimed suburbs with the least crime in our city. Though to be honest, I fear racially motivated attacks overseas.
As for poor Maddy, I feel her parents have acted more and more oddly the longer she has been in her abductor’s (according to them) hands. I just hope she didn’t suffer.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:51 am
495…Hideki
The photo’s of the short cropped hair and the hair-dyed short cropped hair were pics
posted on the Official Site previously….and were altered by photoshop or some such
programme….but only to indicate what Madeleine might look like if her hair had
been cropped and/or dyed.
Nothing significant about them otherwise.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:47 am
The Soothsayer told of this when the moon was at its zenith and foolish people looked to the sun. The priest he knows. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/28133/Priest-bans-Madeleine
December 12th, 2007 at 7:04 am
461 Uta Hagen
Not a poster, but I am rather addicted to all of this.
Living in LaLa Land, oops! make that Los Angeles, California.
Good Nite From the West Coast!
December 12th, 2007 at 5:42 am
“More new pics of Madeleine”
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=amwMhPMdrhA
Stevo, take a look at the 5th and 6th pictures in this series. Madeleine’s hair is cropped VERY SHORT. How old is she in these photos? The 5th photo is of particular interest because there is another photo in the public domain that is the SAME photo, but shows Madeleine with long hair. At least one of the photos has to be photoshopped. I think the fake photo is the long-hair version, for it would be hard to go from the long-hair one to the short-hair one. Besides, the long hair serves both to make it look more recent, and to cover up the disgusting “sexy” look in the original. JMO.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:41 am
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Hideki Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 8:27 am
MINIMUM SENTENCE WOULD BE THREE YEARS IN JAIL
MAXIMUM TEN YEARS
Arrest the McScammers now and make them pay for their horrifying child neglect, and for their outrageous claim that this kind of child neglect is normal and does not constitute a grave offence. Throw them in jail for ten years — that will give them lots of time to think about where Madeleine might be.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:39 am
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Indiansummer Says:
“Watched by police and paparazzi, how did this secret meeting come to be arranged, and how did it pass unnoticed?”
It probably did not pass unnoticed.
Let’s backtrack. First of all, arranging the meeting shows how desperate the McCanns are. They have risked another 2 years in jail , just to make sure alibis are straight. This is yet ANOTHER indication that they are hiding something truly heinous.
Also, suppose 1 or 2 of the Tapas9 are now covertly cooperating with the police. Not only would they have informed the police about the meeting, quite possibly they secretly recorded the proceedings. Or did Clarence Mitchell frisk everyone thoroughly?
It was mentioned that the McCanns “advisors” also attended the meeting. Who is this? Spokesman Clarence AND the lawyer team?
Now the police should be questioning the McCanns about THIS illegal activity, and finding out exactly who attended.
How odd that Clarence the PR man was there. Thanks to this Secret Meeting, the Tapas9 have even less credibility than they had before. Just about none at all. Great PR work, Clarence!
TWO MORE YEARS IN JAIL FOR THE MCCANNS?
10+2=12
TWELVE YEARS IN JAIL… SO FAR…
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/23598/Cops-probe-Tapas-Seven-secret-chat/
“Police are probing a secret summit between the parents of Madeleine McCann and the pals dining with them when she vanished.Kate and Gerry McCann met the so-called Tapas Seven at a hotel near their home…The McCanns described the meeting as “highly emotional”…
But last night police were probing whether the pals had used it as a chance to get their stories straight.
If they suspect a conspiracy to obstruct justice, the pals could each face up to two years in jail.
Under English law such a meeting between the McCanns, who are both suspects, and their key witness pals would be banned during a criminal investigation.
…A source close to the probe said: “The McCanns and their friends are about to be re-interviewed and it is revealed they have met up in secret.”
“It is hard to believe they were merely swapping holiday photos.” ”
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Hideki Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 8:08 am
“Under English law such a meeting between the McCanns, who are both suspects, and their key witness pals would be banned during a criminal investigation”
Would be? It IS illegal, and can bring prison sentence of up to two years. Why did Anorak choose to leave out the senetence about the possible sentence?
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Hideki Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 8:21 am
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=501093&in_page_id=1770
“Kate and Gerry McCann should have been arrested for leaving their children alone in their holiday apartment, the head of Portugal’s new foundation for missing children has said.
Paulo Pereira Cristovao claims the couple are guilty of abandoning Madeleine, a crime which carries a maximum sentence of ten years in jail. ”
An article I cited on the earlier thread has the MINIMUM at 3 years.
“As the Portuguese Association for Missing Children was launched to find eight children who have gone missing from Portugal - though not Madeleine - Mr Pereira Cristovao - told the Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “We didn’t invite the McCanns because they are suspects.” ”
Maybe they SHOULD HAVE invited them, and then have them arrested.
“”When those parents told the police that they went to dinner and left the children at home, they confessed to the crime of abandonment.”
“They should have been charged for that crime right on the first day.””
Why weren’t they?
Clarence Mitchell:
“The system of checks that they were using were just as effective as baby listening services used in such resorts.
“If it is found that they broke the law, then I think thousands of other holidaymakers could also be accused of the same thing.”
If it found that they are guilty of abandonment , this will have meant that the court REJECTS the claim that their so-called system was “just as effective”. So it would have no bearing on “thousands of other holidaymakers .”
The McCanns steadfast claim that they did nothing wrong is EXACTLY WHY they should be convicted and given the MAXIMUM SENTENCE — in addition to the fact that their child neglect and endangerment directly led to the girl’s disappearance.
Why this big fuss about interviewing the McCanns in Britain. Arrest them and prosecute for child neglect now. Interview them about the other crimes in jail.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:33 am
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Indiansummer Says:
Antena 3, Nov 19th/20th
“Found this on DS:
Antena3 claims that the Tapas9 had a meeting this last Saturday morning in a hotel in UK. This was set up by the Metodo 3 team and lasted from 10 til 4. The alleged purpose of this meeting was to “aclarar donde están las contradicciones” clear up any possible contradictions in their statements.
What I dont understand is Antena 3 is a Spanish TV station they reported this meeting on the 19th/20th November on their programme espejo publico, having taken place the saturday before which makes it the 17th November.
How has it taken this long for the British press to print this story
They must be being censored, controlled whatever you like to call it by somebody - I wonder who?
In this day and age of the media fighting for the elusuive exclusive, the paparazi - We are asked to believe the british media knew nothing of this meeting happening round the corner from the Mcanns house until now.
Yet a Spanish Tv station reported it 3 weeks ago.”
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Where else was it reported, beside the Spanish TV program? Was it reported in Spanish newspapers too?
December 12th, 2007 at 5:32 am
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Tinsel Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 5:22 am
But a large percentage of psychics that are pros have criminal records, also according to the government.
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Well that certainly doesn’t apply to Christine !! a more low-key person you could not wish to meet, she looks like somebody’s Auntie and you wouldn’t give her a second glance. She is as straight as a die and she isn’t like some of these weirdos who have to burn incense and “join hands, is anybody there ? ” type of thing. Her gift is sometimes a real burden to her..
December 12th, 2007 at 5:22 am
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Ann Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 5:12 am
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Tinsel Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
But the charletains, which are about 99% of them, will claim they knew all along what happened (whatever that turns out to be) after the fact.
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I don’t dispute the existance of psychic abilities. I think it has been proven to exist by every government in the free world which have all conducted studies. But a large percentage of psychics that are pros have criminal records, also according to the government.
So be careful!
Develop your own abilities, before you trust someone elses, is my policy.
My face readings on K, which I took classes on, says that she believes they will not get away with this, but she is banking on G. G worries a lot about having his “pockets picked.” It’s all about the money to G.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:21 am
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Lulu Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 2:47 am
Cheryl
Tony Bennett’s not here, he’s alseep I expect like most sane people.
This is a forum.
I got pissed off because everyone else seemed to get screamed down when they said things…..I thought to myself, that’s strange….all I get is niceties…..or irritation as a chattering troll.
I thought, what do I have to do to make people notice me, so I mused in the bath……..My God, I even defended Hidiki on Sunday and no one batted an eyelid! It just felt wrng that no one reacted to me. Maybe I should have guessed people were just ignoring me. I didn’t know about the f5 button or whatever.
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REPLY: Did you ever think because you are a nice person not mean and vicious? Lulu, my issue was about bringing the ‘babies’ into it. This is supposedly, but a far cry from it reading all the postings, about finding that lovely child. Talking of a child’s ‘background’ - IVF, surrogate, illegally adopted should not be for discussion on here. The child is missing - maybe murdered in the room, maybe kidnapped by a stranger that is what it is all about - find her, let the police find the FACTS of why she is missing and possibly find her or her remains. There was no reason to bring up the other man’s child - he and/or that baby are not part of this tragedy. Yes the child was adopted over here legally but so what? What does that have to do with the McCanns case? When one picks on adults so to speak, they can stand up and fight back but to pick on a child even indirectly - they can’t defend themselves.
I have no personal ‘agenda’ re this site. I am interested in finding out the truth as this case is a cliff-hanger, so to speak. This is the first ‘blog’ site I’ve ever opened in my life or even bothered scanning and I was curious what they were like. Real eye-opener to me to see how people talk about others, interact, honestly to see first hand what people are capable of I am fascinated by that. However, sometimes it gets to me, some of the remarks I see made or how paranoid people get - especially the anti-McCanns -who think when one tries to interject common sense such as lack of facts they attack as if the one trying to use commn sense is pro McCann.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:16 am
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Kris Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 4:53 am
Lulu- so where did you get this idea to distract us all from the real issue?????????
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I think she met a rather depressing bottle of wine last night.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:14 am
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Uta Hagen Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 4:20 am
457 - Kris, You’re my favorite pro-McCanner!
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My favorite is I think Mary. She seems so straightforward, honest to the core, unshakable–would never be mistaken for the type of two faced liars we are treated to in interviews.
Uta, I’m in DC
December 12th, 2007 at 5:12 am
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Tinsel Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
But the charletains, which are about 99% of them, will claim they knew all along what happened (whatever that turns out to be) after the fact.
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Which is why we are sending everything that Christine comes up with, by e-mail, letter and fax so that there is dated evidence of what she said and when. We have sent same to the Leics. Poice, the Portugues Police, and all the various newspapers that have been carrying the story.
Oh…and it is “charlatans” …
December 12th, 2007 at 5:09 am
Also - with regard to the Psychic Barber, we heard that he had offered his services and would not charge, so why haven’t the McC’s used him ? What are they afraid of ? that he might just come up with something positive they don’t want found ? Christine also offered her services, directly to the McCanns, for nothing as always in these cases, and we haven’t heard a Dicky Bird back, nothing, no “Thanks but no thanks” …nothing…
I also believe that there isn’t a genuine Psychic or Medium who would charge for this sort of thing, that isn’t their way.
December 12th, 2007 at 5:09 am
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Uta Hagen Says:
December 12th, 2007 at 4:04 am
408 — Tinsel — Great post! So, was Russell O’Brien the person who disposed of Madeleine’s body? Could it have been Gerry’s brother? Please. let all these people at least be charged with something!
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The mysteries now:
Where was OB on 10 June
And where was Payne 3 May
December 12th, 2007 at 5:04 am
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Tinsel Says:
December 11th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
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chenier Says:
What sort of person imagines that the police should investigate 150 tip offs from psychics and mediums?
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FYI Police in all countries use Mediums far more than you realise, they just make a big thing out of it for obvious reasons, attitudes from people liek you for instance. Christine has helped the Police to good effect on several occasions and we read that - because of the fact that they - the Police - were coming up against so many dead ends, they decided to look at the info sent them by the Mediums amongst whom was Christine.
She told them about the dialpidated farmhouse where ” Madeleiene had been, was not there now but there would be clues to follow” …they found the towel at just such a place, she said she was now in “still water” , they looked in wells and reservoirs and so on and so forth. If your child were missing I would hazard a guess that you would be happy to enlist aid from Mediums, Psychics, Father Christmas and the Tooth Fairy in an effort to find same wouldn’t you ???
December 12th, 2007 at 4:53 am
Lulu- so where did you get this idea to distract us all from the real issue?????????
December 12th, 2007 at 4:53 am
Sounds like Jeremy Kyle is about equal to Jerry Springer?
December 12th, 2007 at 4:49 am
Uta:
And you are at least , well, one of my favorite anti-McCanners, along with MURDER, and , to a more limited extent, Judith C, who I frankly find suspicious due to the contents of her book, but then again I don’t entirely discount her book. Because that which I do not understand, I should not pretend to understand….
But anyway.
I am afraid I live way out in the Southwest (NM, AZ, UT region) and if I suggested to my husband (If you recall, he was the one curious about your moniker) “Honey, let’s go to New York to discuss this latest upheaval in the Madeleine McCann case” he might divorce me and go back to Manhattan to join some wayward theater troupe. Leaving me alone here with several young children and some goats.
But it’s true, I”m hardly a pro-McCanner anymore… or a rather feeble attempt at one. They do not really make it easy to support them.
This of course does not make them guilty!!!
December 12th, 2007 at 4:20 am
457 - Kris — You’re my favorite pro-McCanner! But, come on, tell the truth: you’re leaning to our side, aren’t you? Well, in any case, I like you anyway. Where in the US do you live? We need to get some McCannamaniacs together to obsess over the case. How many rabid McManiacs like us are there in the US? If the McCanns are charged, we need a place to gather. I’m Uta Hagen and I live in New york. Please, posters in the US, intoduce yourslf to us. Let’s figur how we can gather when this all really blows up