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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1505
mods &amp; admin

"how y0u call that "action" Idon't know"

reply:" action "as in the verb to write.

*********************


You asked frequently, no one replied, I did.
here in the UK we have a very bland approach to all religions, bland as totally indifferent as churchgoers -just hatching , matching and despatching. The C of E is losing bums on seats hand over fist mainly due to untheological reasons, the RC lot shot themselves in the foot with the paedo priests ( I am very ex RC, convent educated and brainwashed til I left the church) There are numerous other Christian chapels who practice in their way too, and people abandoning those in droves, Welsh chapel goers in particular .
It used to be in days gone by that one bathed 3 times in ones life, these days its attending Church

But do write a piece or even an intro and put it in the forums for debate, (we'll even try to stay on topic)! All manner of atheists ,agnostics, Pagans and maybe the odd practising Christian</description>
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mods &amp; admin</p>
<p>&#8220;how y0u call that &#8220;action&#8221; Idon&#8217;t know&#8221;</p>
<p>reply:&#8221; action &#8220;as in the verb to write.</p>
<p>*********************</p>
<p>You asked frequently, no one replied, I did.<br />
here in the UK we have a very bland approach to all religions, bland as totally indifferent as churchgoers -just hatching , matching and despatching. The C of E is losing bums on seats hand over fist mainly due to untheological reasons, the RC lot shot themselves in the foot with the paedo priests ( I am very ex RC, convent educated and brainwashed til I left the church) There are numerous other Christian chapels who practice in their way too, and people abandoning those in droves, Welsh chapel goers in particular .<br />
It used to be in days gone by that one bathed 3 times in ones life, these days its attending Church</p>
<p>But do write a piece or even an intro and put it in the forums for debate, (we&#8217;ll even try to stay on topic)! All manner of atheists ,agnostics, Pagans and maybe the odd practising Christian</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1100

Mods &amp; Admin

There were many , many posters  making derogatory  comments against a "certain" religion... and there was no intervention from mods &amp; admin.....it's amazing that when a response was made against those posters. Action was taken.

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Mods and Admin


I suggested if you wanted to debate religion why don't you go into the forums and post a piece there.
How you call that 'action' I don't know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1100</p>
<p>Mods &amp; Admin</p>
<p>There were many , many posters  making derogatory  comments against a &#8220;certain&#8221; religion&#8230; and there was no intervention from mods &amp; admin&#8230;..it&#8217;s amazing that when a response was made against those posters. Action was taken.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Mods and Admin</p>
<p>I suggested if you wanted to debate religion why don&#8217;t you go into the forums and post a piece there.<br />
How you call that &#8216;action&#8217; I don&#8217;t know</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1090
Patch Says: 
"when I emailed someone’e website to offer support. However, when I made a small criticism, I have ended up being threatened, oh, no PROMISED (his exact words) with legal proceedings."

You were specifically asked by Mods and Admin to DROP that round of bickering with Stevo, but you are relentless, aren't you? And your posts on the subject are full of lies and distortions. 

" I was never abusive and I am now certain that he has proved to people whether or not he is a bully."

Your posts, along with Kris's are HIGHLY ABUSIVE. I think both of you should be banned from this forum. 

 "Hideki cals us Team McCann trolls! How ridiculous! You class us as this just because we stand up and say what we want to say, rather than what he tells us to say. "

No, I call you that because IMO you are furthering the agenda of Team McCann. It's just an opinion based on reading your voluminous and verbose posts. 

"I have been against Team McCann from day one. However, I now rarely post because of the ‘thuggery’ on this site. "

It's too bad you are ALLOWED to post. 

"I am no troll. I have always been fiercely opposed to the McCanns but I am also fiercely opposed to the nasty attacks on other posters views. "

You are a ranting fool, IMO -- more accurately you are pretending to be a ranting fool. You are a troll. 

1094
Patch Says: 

"As to Hideki’s claims, I am speechless. I have posted here for around 3 months and have never once supported the McCanns. "

Your hysterical posts against others serves the interests of Team McCann. 

" I can’t remember Judith, Chenier and the others accused ever supporting the McCann’s either."

You have a poor memory. BTW, do you think my opinion that these posters are "pro-McCann" constitutes an accusation? I think not. It is merely an INTERPRETATION of your obnoxious, disgusting, and bothersome posting behavior, along with your failure to stay on topic, and the willingness to defend other pro-McCann posters while attacking those who seek justice for Madeleine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1090<br />
Patch Says:<br />
&#8220;when I emailed someone’e website to offer support. However, when I made a small criticism, I have ended up being threatened, oh, no PROMISED (his exact words) with legal proceedings.&#8221;</p>
<p>You were specifically asked by Mods and Admin to DROP that round of bickering with Stevo, but you are relentless, aren&#8217;t you? And your posts on the subject are full of lies and distortions. </p>
<p>&#8221; I was never abusive and I am now certain that he has proved to people whether or not he is a bully.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your posts, along with Kris&#8217;s are HIGHLY ABUSIVE. I think both of you should be banned from this forum. </p>
<p> &#8220;Hideki cals us Team McCann trolls! How ridiculous! You class us as this just because we stand up and say what we want to say, rather than what he tells us to say. &#8221;</p>
<p>No, I call you that because IMO you are furthering the agenda of Team McCann. It&#8217;s just an opinion based on reading your voluminous and verbose posts. </p>
<p>&#8220;I have been against Team McCann from day one. However, I now rarely post because of the ‘thuggery’ on this site. &#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad you are ALLOWED to post. </p>
<p>&#8220;I am no troll. I have always been fiercely opposed to the McCanns but I am also fiercely opposed to the nasty attacks on other posters views. &#8221;</p>
<p>You are a ranting fool, IMO &#8212; more accurately you are pretending to be a ranting fool. You are a troll. </p>
<p>1094<br />
Patch Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;As to Hideki’s claims, I am speechless. I have posted here for around 3 months and have never once supported the McCanns. &#8221;</p>
<p>Your hysterical posts against others serves the interests of Team McCann. </p>
<p>&#8221; I can’t remember Judith, Chenier and the others accused ever supporting the McCann’s either.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have a poor memory. BTW, do you think my opinion that these posters are &#8220;pro-McCann&#8221; constitutes an accusation? I think not. It is merely an INTERPRETATION of your obnoxious, disgusting, and bothersome posting behavior, along with your failure to stay on topic, and the willingness to defend other pro-McCann posters while attacking those who seek justice for Madeleine.</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1098
Peter O Says: 

"Unsubstantiated nonsense."

That it is "nonsense" is your own unsubstantiated opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1098<br />
Peter O Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Unsubstantiated nonsense.&#8221;</p>
<p>That it is &#8220;nonsense&#8221; is your own unsubstantiated opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1092
Châtelaine Says: 

"HOWEVER! Something struck me:! She writes halfway down about the “morning after” . When bringing her childrens to the “kiddie club”:
“Our daughter ran inside and started painting. Then, behind us, another set of parents arrived looking equally washed out. Then another, and another. We decided, in the end, to leave them for two hours. We put their bags on the pegs and saw the one labelled “Madeleine”. Heads bent, we walked away, into the guilty glare of the morning sun.”

We […] saw the one labelled “Madeleine” …

What was that bag still doing there???????????????"

Excellent question. Many, myself included, overlooked this important point. Also, what was ordinarily contained in those bags?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1092<br />
Châtelaine Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;HOWEVER! Something struck me:! She writes halfway down about the “morning after” . When bringing her childrens to the “kiddie club”:<br />
“Our daughter ran inside and started painting. Then, behind us, another set of parents arrived looking equally washed out. Then another, and another. We decided, in the end, to leave them for two hours. We put their bags on the pegs and saw the one labelled “Madeleine”. Heads bent, we walked away, into the guilty glare of the morning sun.”</p>
<p>We […] saw the one labelled “Madeleine” …</p>
<p>What was that bag still doing there???????????????&#8221;</p>
<p>Excellent question. Many, myself included, overlooked this important point. Also, what was ordinarily contained in those bags?</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1099 / correction

Cheryl

keep up the good fight for "principles" you believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1099 / correction</p>
<p>Cheryl</p>
<p>keep up the good fight for &#8220;principles&#8221; you believe in.</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl/1099

Re: mods &amp; Admin

It beats me how the   same rules apply to some and not others....???
 the good the good fight for "principles" you believe in...surely you can't be faulted for that.

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Mods and Admin 

we cannot force a poster to respond to you. If you want a religious debate go into the forums, if you want to discuss MM do that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl/1099</p>
<p>Re: mods &amp; Admin</p>
<p>It beats me how the   same rules apply to some and not others&#8230;.???<br />
 the good the good fight for &#8220;principles&#8221; you believe in&#8230;surely you can&#8217;t be faulted for that.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Mods and Admin </p>
<p>we cannot force a poster to respond to you. If you want a religious debate go into the forums, if you want to discuss MM do that here.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1097
on2u Says: 

December 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pm 
1095/mods &amp; Adm

If he knows, then why is he doing it here?

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REPLY:  on2u - I have the same question in my mind.

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Mods and Admin


 ask him ,not me! but if you do want to debate anything try the forums, as Cheryl well knows too, we wake up , swig our wine put it down and discuss/debate anything.
Any more pix Cheryl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1097<br />
on2u Says: </p>
<p>December 14th, 2007 at 2:37 pm<br />
1095/mods &amp; Adm</p>
<p>If he knows, then why is he doing it here?</p>
<p>_________________<br />
REPLY:  on2u - I have the same question in my mind.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Mods and Admin</p>
<p> ask him ,not me! but if you do want to debate anything try the forums, as Cheryl well knows too, we wake up , swig our wine put it down and discuss/debate anything.<br />
Any more pix Cheryl?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1087 Hideki Says: December 14th, 2007 at 8:08 am 
1085 Peter O Says: 

“New thread”

Peter O is always so anxious to stop the discussion like this. I wonder why? IMO he is the leader of the “pro” crowd. A very capable man.

++++++++++++++

Unsubstantiated nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1087 Hideki Says: December 14th, 2007 at 8:08 am<br />
1085 Peter O Says: </p>
<p>“New thread”</p>
<p>Peter O is always so anxious to stop the discussion like this. I wonder why? IMO he is the leader of the “pro” crowd. A very capable man.</p>
<p>++++++++++++++</p>
<p>Unsubstantiated nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1095/mods &amp; Adm

If he knows, then why is he doing it here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1095/mods &amp; Adm</p>
<p>If he knows, then why is he doing it here?</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totje1093

I agree..do not wish to get involved with any group..then it becomes a lynching for those who find safety in numbers. That I have certainly reconised on this site.
Will continue to montor any inaccuracies as I see them.

It is not the freedom of speech I am concerned about, it is freedom after speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totje1093</p>
<p>I agree..do not wish to get involved with any group..then it becomes a lynching for those who find safety in numbers. That I have certainly reconised on this site.<br />
Will continue to montor any inaccuracies as I see them.</p>
<p>It is not the freedom of speech I am concerned about, it is freedom after speech.</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mods &amp; adm

re:1091

I am responding to those questions that were posed to me.

In particular those of tony bennet. Have you noted same to him????????

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No, he knows where the forums are if he wants to debate</description>
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<p>re:1091</p>
<p>I am responding to those questions that were posed to me.</p>
<p>In particular those of tony bennet. Have you noted same to him????????</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Mods and Admin</p>
<p>No, he knows where the forums are if he wants to debate</p>
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		<title>By: Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris

As to Hideki's claims, I am speechless. I have posted here for around 3 months and have never once supported the McCanns. I have written to my MP, the PM, Foreign Office etc. What an elaborate cover up I am pursuing! I can't remember  Judith, Chenier and the others accused ever supporting the McCann's either. And Peter O is our leader? Well, someone forgot to tell me! So this is official, then? Anyone who dares to question a particular poster is pro McCann? That is very convenient, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris</p>
<p>As to Hideki&#8217;s claims, I am speechless. I have posted here for around 3 months and have never once supported the McCanns. I have written to my MP, the PM, Foreign Office etc. What an elaborate cover up I am pursuing! I can&#8217;t remember  Judith, Chenier and the others accused ever supporting the McCann&#8217;s either. And Peter O is our leader? Well, someone forgot to tell me! So this is official, then? Anyone who dares to question a particular poster is pro McCann? That is very convenient, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see I wasn't the last poster :( 

No matter who is/was the bully, the groupies as I called them [thanks for quoting Judith C] add fuel on the flames. One bully, no matter who s/he is, can't harm anyone as long as the rest of the group ignore it. 

A 1 on 1 discussion is fine, sadly people choose sides, and some get abusive. 

Food for psycho-analists/psychiatrist this site! May be some people are working in that branch....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see I wasn&#8217;t the last poster <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No matter who is/was the bully, the groupies as I called them [thanks for quoting Judith C] add fuel on the flames. One bully, no matter who s/he is, can&#8217;t harm anyone as long as the rest of the group ignore it. </p>
<p>A 1 on 1 discussion is fine, sadly people choose sides, and some get abusive. </p>
<p>Food for psycho-analists/psychiatrist this site! May be some people are working in that branch&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>977
Rosemary Says: 
December 14th, 2007 at 12:51 am

“Bridget O’Donnell writing about their holiday in The Guardian today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2227416,00.html”
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A truly read-worthy article!
HOWEVER! Something struck me:! She writes halfway down about the “morning after” . When bringing her childrens to the “kiddie club”:
“Our daughter ran inside and started painting. Then, behind us, another set of parents arrived looking equally washed out. Then another, and another. We decided, in the end, to leave them for two hours. We put their bags on the pegs and saw the one labelled "Madeleine". Heads bent, we walked away, into the guilty glare of the morning sun.”

We [...] saw the one labelled “Madeleine” ...

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Rosemary Says:<br />
December 14th, 2007 at 12:51 am</p>
<p>“Bridget O’Donnell writing about their holiday in The Guardian today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2227416,00.html”<br />
&#8212;&#8211;<br />
A truly read-worthy article!<br />
HOWEVER! Something struck me:! She writes halfway down about the “morning after” . When bringing her childrens to the “kiddie club”:<br />
“Our daughter ran inside and started painting. Then, behind us, another set of parents arrived looking equally washed out. Then another, and another. We decided, in the end, to leave them for two hours. We put their bags on the pegs and saw the one labelled &#8220;Madeleine&#8221;. Heads bent, we walked away, into the guilty glare of the morning sun.”</p>
<p>We [...] saw the one labelled “Madeleine” &#8230;</p>
<p>What was that bag still doing there???????????????</p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1056/cheryl

Morgenthal (who is jewish) turned away a ship  of jews from nazi Germany in NY harbor in WWll. That plays into the "mans inhumanity to man" scenerio. There are countless  atrocities throughout history and those in power are not without sin.  
But when an individual uses these discussions to further his own personal aversion. He has a problem.

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Mods and Admin


Your questioning of religion here in this thread is irrelevant, if you want some responses, compose a piece and put it in the forums; people will no doubt respond.
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<p>Morgenthal (who is jewish) turned away a ship  of jews from nazi Germany in NY harbor in WWll. That plays into the &#8220;mans inhumanity to man&#8221; scenerio. There are countless  atrocities throughout history and those in power are not without sin.<br />
But when an individual uses these discussions to further his own personal aversion. He has a problem.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Mods and Admin</p>
<p>Your questioning of religion here in this thread is irrelevant, if you want some responses, compose a piece and put it in the forums; people will no doubt respond.<br />
The forums are accessible on the black border at the top of the Home Page</p>
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		<title>By: Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1037 Kris

Thank you so much for your words. At least someone believes me. Doc Watson (I wonder...) says that normal, decent people have no reason to hide and would be proud to use their real name. I did exactly that  (but has he?) when I emailed someone'e website to offer support. However, when I made a small criticism, I have ended up being threatened, oh, no PROMISED (his exact words) with legal proceedings. I was never abusive and I am now certain that he has proved to people whether or not he is a bully. My words 'bully' and 'liar' are hardly world shattering on a forum that has encouraged many people to say much worse and directed those comments at REAL people, not pseodonyms. Hideki cals us Team McCann trolls! How ridiculous! You class us as this just because we stand up and say what we want to say, rather than what he tells us to say.  I have been against Team McCann from day one. However, I now rarely post because of the 'thuggery' on this site. Many very worthwhile posters have been silenced because of mindless comments from people with no thoughts of their own, spouting the words of their sad little leader.
I had no intention of posting last night and only did so when he had another shot at me and I had to defend myself, yet again.  You are 'on the other side' to me but I respect your views far more than his. I also note that anyone who questions his rule over this site, is ridiculed with childish accusatiuons such as 'drunk, neurotic, cry baby, idiot, crank', the list goes on. I am no troll. I have always been fiercely opposed to the McCanns but I am also fiercely opposed to the nasty attacks on other posters views. Yes, you are right that the attacks are usually against women. I wonder why? You're right as well about email addresses. I have now seen fit to abandon one of mine.
I thank Peter O and Chenier for their words, also and urge everyone to think long and hard about what or who is choking this site.
I rarely post anymore as I am sickened at what has happened to so many of us.
 1027 Murder has hit the nail on the head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1037 Kris</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your words. At least someone believes me. Doc Watson (I wonder&#8230;) says that normal, decent people have no reason to hide and would be proud to use their real name. I did exactly that  (but has he?) when I emailed someone&#8217;e website to offer support. However, when I made a small criticism, I have ended up being threatened, oh, no PROMISED (his exact words) with legal proceedings. I was never abusive and I am now certain that he has proved to people whether or not he is a bully. My words &#8216;bully&#8217; and &#8216;liar&#8217; are hardly world shattering on a forum that has encouraged many people to say much worse and directed those comments at REAL people, not pseodonyms. Hideki cals us Team McCann trolls! How ridiculous! You class us as this just because we stand up and say what we want to say, rather than what he tells us to say.  I have been against Team McCann from day one. However, I now rarely post because of the &#8216;thuggery&#8217; on this site. Many very worthwhile posters have been silenced because of mindless comments from people with no thoughts of their own, spouting the words of their sad little leader.<br />
I had no intention of posting last night and only did so when he had another shot at me and I had to defend myself, yet again.  You are &#8216;on the other side&#8217; to me but I respect your views far more than his. I also note that anyone who questions his rule over this site, is ridiculed with childish accusatiuons such as &#8216;drunk, neurotic, cry baby, idiot, crank&#8217;, the list goes on. I am no troll. I have always been fiercely opposed to the McCanns but I am also fiercely opposed to the nasty attacks on other posters views. Yes, you are right that the attacks are usually against women. I wonder why? You&#8217;re right as well about email addresses. I have now seen fit to abandon one of mine.<br />
I thank Peter O and Chenier for their words, also and urge everyone to think long and hard about what or who is choking this site.<br />
I rarely post anymore as I am sickened at what has happened to so many of us.<br />
 1027 Murder has hit the nail on the head.</p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>974 Stevo Says: December 14th, 2007 at 12:49 am 
958 Totje 

Funny post. Humour always works doesn’t it? Pity more don’t know how to use it. 
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It's a pity people sometimes don't get it [I mean understand my little jokes].

And now I'll try to stay serious, unless I need to relativize things. 
Sometimes my emotions also get involved, esp. when I think something isn't fair... and to be honest I can act like a little pittbul then. And it takes a good night sleep to 'get over it' and relativize what happened. Sorry about that if it's offended someone.

And I still don't know what happened, except Madeleine is missing since May 3rd.
Still don't know what to choose:
1. abduction - why, who, when
2. [accidental] death - why, who, when and why a coverup
3. wandering off and got lost - how, who, why
4. financial scam [love that one]

Methodo3 acts strange, the parents and friends act strange, the media ARE strange [remember the fuss when lady Diana got killed in Paris, and the accusations by the tabloids?], the 'leaks' from the [former?] PJ..... It all doesn't make sense. But hey, who says people should act as I'd liked them to? People react different on things.

And I don't like the people on this forum who are in desparate need of an enemy, the hatred, the 'all against one mentality' as soon as someone doesn't buy what's the latest theory or discussion, the continuous accusations and 'name calling'. 

That's not fair. 

Last? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>974 Stevo Says: December 14th, 2007 at 12:49 am<br />
958 Totje </p>
<p>Funny post. Humour always works doesn’t it? Pity more don’t know how to use it.<br />
********************<br />
It&#8217;s a pity people sometimes don&#8217;t get it [I mean understand my little jokes].</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;ll try to stay serious, unless I need to relativize things.<br />
Sometimes my emotions also get involved, esp. when I think something isn&#8217;t fair&#8230; and to be honest I can act like a little pittbul then. And it takes a good night sleep to &#8216;get over it&#8217; and relativize what happened. Sorry about that if it&#8217;s offended someone.</p>
<p>And I still don&#8217;t know what happened, except Madeleine is missing since May 3rd.<br />
Still don&#8217;t know what to choose:<br />
1. abduction - why, who, when<br />
2. [accidental] death - why, who, when and why a coverup<br />
3. wandering off and got lost - how, who, why<br />
4. financial scam [love that one]</p>
<p>Methodo3 acts strange, the parents and friends act strange, the media ARE strange [remember the fuss when lady Diana got killed in Paris, and the accusations by the tabloids?], the &#8216;leaks&#8217; from the [former?] PJ&#8230;.. It all doesn&#8217;t make sense. But hey, who says people should act as I&#8217;d liked them to? People react different on things.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t like the people on this forum who are in desparate need of an enemy, the hatred, the &#8216;all against one mentality&#8217; as soon as someone doesn&#8217;t buy what&#8217;s the latest theory or discussion, the continuous accusations and &#8216;name calling&#8217;. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not fair. </p>
<p>Last? <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: on2u</title>
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		<dc:creator>on2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1056/cheryl

Since that question was asked of  "this"poster. I chose not to dignify that with an answer.Every argument has a counter argument. TB knows he was bating the discussion with his anti-catholic sentiments. Allowing  him the floor for his debate only further gives him a sense of importance. It is open field day on certain religious groups  (of choice)and he certainly adds fuel to that fire. I wonder why???</description>
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<p>Since that question was asked of  &#8220;this&#8221;poster. I chose not to dignify that with an answer.Every argument has a counter argument. TB knows he was bating the discussion with his anti-catholic sentiments. Allowing  him the floor for his debate only further gives him a sense of importance. It is open field day on certain religious groups  (of choice)and he certainly adds fuel to that fire. I wonder why???</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1085
Peter O Says: 

"New thread"

Peter O is always so anxious to stop the discussion like this. I wonder why? IMO he is the leader of the "pro" crowd. A very capable man.</description>
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Peter O Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;New thread&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter O is always so anxious to stop the discussion like this. I wonder why? IMO he is the leader of the &#8220;pro&#8221; crowd. A very capable man.</p>
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