Madeleine McCann: The Age Of Jose Anes, Gerry McCann’s Fury And Murat’s Nannies Know Best
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
THE SUN: “No one will ever stand trial”
Because no one has been charged with any crime?
Or: “NOBODY will EVER stand trial over missing Madeleine McCann because cops made so many vital blunders,” says the Sun. And so too says Jose Anes, 62: “Mistakes in the early hours demolished the entire case”
The ex-director of Lisbon’s police lab is “Portugal’s top forensic expert”, a billing the lab’s current director may dispute
Mr Anes says: “If the scene is not preserved in the first hours, all the hours of effort that follow are useless. I am utterly convinced — unless some new, concrete evidence suddenly emerges — the case will never reach trial”
But what of the evidence gathered so far, like the DNA samples found in the McCanns’ hire car?
“Maddie sniffer dog ‘was rigged’” - Gerry McCann is “FURIOUS” – as often he is. He “believes sniffer dogs used to find Maddie clues in the family’s hire car were MANIPULATED by cops”
Says a “source close to the couple”: “Gerry says a dog went up to the Scenic, sniffed around and went to head off. He watched the dog being brought back to the vehicle. Finally, it reacts around the boot area. Gerry was open-mouthed at that, he feels the dog was manoeuvred into a position where it could react”
And smell
“Murat pals ’saw him near flat’” – “SUSPECT Robert Murat was PALS with British holiday nannies who say they saw him the night Maddie vanished, it has emerged”
Good friends? “And at least two of the girls knew him well enough to be on first name terms”
That’s close, eh
“A source confirmed yesterday that he did befriend several girls, adding: ‘A lot are attractive and he made a beeline for them. When they were asked who was near the apartment that night, several mentioned Murat”
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine: Forensics expert says inquiry is ‘complete waste’ because of police blunders at apartment”
Says Jose Manuel Anes: “Huge amounts of money were spent but if, in the first hours, the due precautions for the preservation of the crime scene were not taken, all this hard work goes down the drain. We can spend rivers of money which will all go down the drain if the crime scene is not properly isolated”
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell says: “It is alarming to hear that Mr Anes has this view. All we want, and have done throughout, is to ensure the operational police side of this has been done in an effective and efficient manner as possible”
And why is Mr Anes – “the 62-year-old” - speaking out now? Because he’s making his comments known in a book called The McCanns’ Guilt – not that the case will ever, come to trial, you understand
“Madeleine: Gerry’s fury at ‘bungling’ dog handlers” – More Gerry McCann fury
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE COPS HIDE WITNESS”
Says the paper: “The key witness in the Madeleine McCann inquiry was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal” – Jane Tanner? Kate McCann? Gerry McCann? No, the unnamed Portuguese tapas waiter…
“Pals say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and claim he is also scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe…Friends add that he is worried about the private eyes hired by Gerry and Kate McCann, both 39, to help find their daughter”
One former work colleague of the waiter says: “He does not want to be involved in any of this. Through no fault of his own he finds himself at the heart of this worldwide mystery”
DAILY EXPRESS: “MADELEINE: WITNESS GOES ON THE RUN ‘TO PROTECT HIS EVIDENCE’”
“THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal”
“POLICE WERE ‘SIDETRACKED’ BY MCCANNS” - Former police crime scene chief Jose Manuel Anes is “ONE of Portugal’s top forensic experts”
The WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPER investigates. Mr Anes is “71”
And “last night hinted that Kate and Gerry McCann were partly to blame for the flawed investigation into their daughter’s disappearance”. Although the Sun says it was those bungling Portuguese police (see above)?
“They should not have been thinking of the poor little parents but I understand the human dimension and the pressure which immediately involved the investigators. Sometimes the police are too human. The police must be absolutely objective. Somebody’s suggestions and complaints connected to a person’s disappearance should be set aside while the evidence is being gathered. In the moments immediately following the occurrence the goal is to gather everything and preserve everything”
Not bungling, rather too caring; too human
DAILY MIRROR: “McCann DNA clue ‘useless’”
Jose Manuel Anes is 62. He is the retired head of Portugal’s police science laboratory.
He tells the Mirror, and everyone else: “I fear the case will never reach trial” - and even if it did, no jury would be able to convict anyone.
BBC: Audience for BBC News 24 peaked in 2007 at 8.2 million in the week ending 1 July for the bomb attack on Glasgow Airport and at 7.9 million for the story of the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann in the week ending 13 May
Madeleine McCann: The ratings winner
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December 18th, 2007 at 10:45 am
SOOTHSAYER
You effing fucker don’t call me a knobhead , you are a chareletan trying to take everybody for a ride . You know nothing, never have and never will, you are a stupid old macc troll, trying to sound impressive. You are trying to take down the Anorak site, you never will you frigging meathead, i think you are an old incontinent woman, so go piss yourself/
December 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am
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Ian Says:
“The only way these criminals will escape is through intervention which has nothing to do with the law or justice.”
I agree. The “key questions” are
1) will intervention prevent justice from prevailing with respect to Kate and Gerry? Or will they be sacrificed to some extent?
2) will intervention prevent disclosure of hidden details, such as identity of T10, identities of those who planned the fake abduction, etc? Or will the Portuguese pursue the matter more deeply, despite political pressures?
It would be surprising to me if no charges are brought against Kate and Gerry. That would be the maximum intervention. Or minimal charges could be brought. Or charges brought but not effectively prosecuted.
But as others have pointed out, some information will become public in January, such as what evidence led to their being suspects, etc. Yet I wonder if even this information might be suppressed or diluted.
Only time will tell. The McCanns will not tell. Their lips are sealed. For now. But maybe years later there will be a bitter divorce and one of them will tell everything they know. Only time will tell…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:43 am
“It really shouldn’t be such a big deal to get them ready and approved, especially if the focus of the investigation was a child abduction that for all we know may be being held against her will somewhere. Surely these interviews would be seen by authorities in Portugal and the UK as yet another step to come closer to identifying where Madeleine is.”
Saloman,
do you recall, a week or so ago, I linked and quoted the requirements of these letters?
The need to show “reasonable cause” and “nexus”?
If there’s no such “reasonable cause”, then no judicial official is about to put his or her name to such a letter.
And we do know that such “reasonable cause” wasn’t required in Portuguese law at the time that the McCanns were declared Arguido - and that the Portuguese Attorney General can’t say that the believes that the basis of the McCanns status would be satisfied under the new law…
So, without having to speculate about unkown evidence (and if such evidence is so strong, why not go straight to charge….), there’s a far simpler explanantion for the absence of the letters, isn’t there?
That they’ve either not actually been written, or not approved.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:42 am
120 Pepe
Well, I’d say no one would be better placed to lead a programme for child neglect, wouldnt you?
Though why they think child neglect needs to be further expanded I really couldnt say.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Ian,
So if there was no time for a stranger abduction, then, it follows does it not, that any negligence on the part of the Doctors McCann in leaving MM in the room (none of which is admitted) was not caustive of whatever happened to her - ergo an acquittal on any he lesser charge of child neglect.
So, if not abduction - what happened?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:40 am
clouseau why would you want your bollox to take a polygraph, have they been playing away.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:40 am
Ian 103 - do you also find it bizarre that the McCanns were well-informed enough to hire top lawyers (including specialists in fighting extradition), but lacked so much judgement in hiring Metodo 3? A company without any credentials in child abductions let alone in Morocco.
IMO the only aspect that is worth considering is why now the McCanns are now trying to distance themselves from the PIs that they hired and paid a millionaire sum. Could it be because MEtodo 3 screwed up (trying to pay up fake witnesses) and the PJ knows about it and could use it as yet another piece of evidence agaisnt the McCanns abduction theory?
Or…
could it be that Metodo 3 is and has always been from the very beginning an integral part of the plan to find Madeleine somewhere in Morocco… and these comments from the spanish detective have further confirmed that this was a scam?
We’ll have to wait and see…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:39 am
10.17 in the Daily Mail - new forensic evidence sent for analysis
December 18th, 2007 at 10:39 am
105 Hideki Says:
“Loaded question. There was no “child watching system” throughout the week.”
Well, no watching at all would also be a system and allow even more for an abduction.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:38 am
Was Code Madeleine the campaign Gerry was talking in Edinburgh, when he said they would work in chald welfare?
Eloisa seems to make a link in http://www.esplendordelaforma.blogspot.com
What about Code Madeleine and Child Neglect? Should this campaign go on when parents are sponsors and neglectors??
December 18th, 2007 at 10:38 am
113 Sooth
I think we all know why they will not take a lie detector.
I think we all know why they left Portugal so quickly.
I think deep down we all know that Madeleine was never abducted by a stranger.
Even the pro-mccannics know, thats why they get so…furious.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:36 am
Sherlock,
your point 1 - well, CdM’s source says the letters haven’t been sent - and no other source (the PJ, Leicestershire Police, the HomeOffice or euroJust etc) is saying they have - so, what’s your evidence that they’ve been approved?
Answer - none. And the reality is, if this were a delay at the UK end, the Portuguese press would be screaming blue murder….
your point 2 - either way, the files end up in the public domain…..the difference is?
Your point 3 - Lying to the lawyer and the suspect about evidence. Separating a suspect under interview from their lwayer.
Either pne, here in the UK, would be enough to get a case thrown out, and result in disciplinary action against the officers involved.
Here’s a link to the relevant PACE code of practice:
http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-publications/publication/operational-policing/2008_PACE_Code_C_(Tracked_C1.pdf?view=Binary
You’ll see that a solicitor can only be removed whent heir behaviour is “preventing questions being propoerly put” - not a claim I’ve seen made in this case, and then
“The removal of a solicitor from an interview is a serious step and, if it occurs, the officer
of superintendent rank or above who took the decision will consider if the incident should
be reported to the Law Society. If the decision to remove the solicitor has been taken by
an officer below superintendent rank, the facts must be reported to an officer of
superintendent rank or above who will similarly consider whether a report to the Law
Society would be appropriate. When the solicitor concerned is a duty solicitor, the
report should be both to the Law Society and to the Legal Services Commission.”
December 18th, 2007 at 10:36 am
bollox
if they where to take a polygrapgh and it showed them to be innocent nobody would be on these forums….why do they not take a test
GUILTY
December 18th, 2007 at 10:35 am
HARRY HIND SIGHT is obviously as blind as a bloody bat ans stupid as well, also a well paid troll so Voertsek Harry.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:35 am
107 Harry
No abduction was possible. Simply wasnt time.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:34 am
clouseau as they are not admissable in court why take one, i know i wouldn’t i might pass it !
December 18th, 2007 at 10:34 am
109 Sherlock
Yes we do, but thats juat an excuse to stop them getting IN!
It wouldnt have made any diffrerence in this case anyway, Madeleine wasnt abducted by a stranger, thats one thing we do now know after all these months.
There simply wasnt time.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:32 am
The Daily Mail is now reporting that new forensic evidence is being sent for analysis in UK.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:32 am
ferdinand there was enough to bang kate up for neglect according to Amaral and others, but not the prosecutor. a cell might have made kate more forthcoming………if there is or was anymore to be revealed, to late now.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:31 am
98 Chenier - Guilty as charged - but successfully completed my first ‘law’ year!
Do you think it might change my views?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:31 am
Harry 107 - when a child goes missing in Britain do you close borders with Wales and Scotland and put up road blocks?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:29 am
soothy whats your view on the polygrapgh ?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:29 am
95 - “ONE of Portugal’s top forensic experts last night hinted that Kate and Gerry McCann were partly to blame for the flawed investigation into their daughter’s disappearance. He claimed investigators made the mistake of being thrown off the scent after the McCanns insisted straight away that their daughter Madeleine had been abducted”
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Whereas the Doctors McCann should have said, preferrably in Portugese to the coppers -
“we do not know what has happened and therefore no lines of enquiry, including the possiblity that we have done her in, should be ruled out at this stage”
Anyway, if the police immediately believed she had been abducted, why did they not seal borders and put up road blocks?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:28 am
The Uk crap press Rupert Murdoch whores ,has insulted our intelligence beyond belief, and insulted the Portugeuse , I am mortified and disgusted, the people of the Uk has some pride surely ?
December 18th, 2007 at 10:28 am
78
Ferdinand Says:
“The key questions would be: Who from the staff did know how much about the child watching system the parents practised? ”
Loaded question. There was no “child watching system” throughout the week. Nothing more to know than that. The McCanns made up that fantasy after they realized that they could be held accountable for child neglect — it was invented after 10 PM on May 3rd.
“With whom did those who knew about it share their knowledge? ”
It? The fact that the McCanns were leaving their children alone? We do not need a waiter to blabber about that, for Gerry McCann was himself telling everyone he met about it.
“Why were the waiter(s) so observant about the whereabouts of the parents anyway?”
Because the parents were at the restaurant where the waiter was employed. Doh. And they probably also paid extra attention because the doctors were drunk and raucous, with Gerry being the loudest of the loudmouths. Even O’Donnell could hear them clearly back at the apartments, on the 4th floor. Remember?
Ferdinand, I daresay your have asked some awfully unproductive “key” questions. Obviously you were never a waiter…
December 18th, 2007 at 10:28 am
I see the pro-mccanns have started abusing again!
December 18th, 2007 at 10:27 am
87 Even Clarrie realised the M3 idiot had gone too far with his last promise!
I think we will all have to accept that we will never know what really happened, as is the case for many occurances in life.
In some eyes the McCanns will always be unpleasant child neglectors/abusers - yet they will continue to enjoy their creature comforts. In some eyes they will always be ‘adoring loving parents who’s beloved child was cruelly snatched’ - yet they will continue to enjoy their creature comforts.
If their god is real, if they really believe in him, then they will one day meet him (or be cast into the other place) - until then they will continue to enjoy their creature comforts.
If he is not real, then they will never meet him and they will never go to another place - yet they will continue to enjoy their creature comforts.
Life is cruel and unfair. But theres no point worrying about it - theres nothing to be done.
December 18th, 2007 at 10:27 am
I feel like some holly
a bit green and surrounded by pricks
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December 18th, 2007 at 10:26 am
fannyhunter 96 how many questions did they ask ,yeah thats right knobhead none!
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December 18th, 2007 at 10:26 am
I think there’s more than meets the eye in this long-lasting process of developing the letters asking for the interviews, actually sending them and then getting the Foreign Office and Home office to act upon them to authorise the interviews.
I understood from previous contributions and articles that these type of letters are relatively common place when it involves cooperation between police forces. It really shouldn’t be such a big deal to get them ready and approved, especially if the focus of the investigation was a child abduction that for all we know may be being held against her will somewhere. Surely these interviews would be seen by authorities in Portugal and the UK as yet another step to come closer to identifying where Madeleine is.
Yet…
Nobody seems very interested in getting these interviews going… we’ve been waiting for months, and now again let’s wait after Christmas etc??? Would the life and security of a child not deserve a swifter and faster treatment? There’s something not quite right here.
One possible explanation is that the police will have enough evidence to suggest with a certain degree of certainty that Madeleine is already dead. Therefore carrying out the interviews a couple of weeks later is not going to make a major difference to Madeleine’s health and security. The other option would be that the police already know that this is a scam by the McCanns and that Madeleine is being held safely. The PJ could in this case to be awaiting for the “final move” of the scam (ie returning Madeleine safe and sound to her parents by Metodo 3) before they move in with arrests and charges.
Do you agree?