Madeleine McCann: The Age Of Jose Anes, Gerry McCann’s Fury And Murat’s Nannies Know Best
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
THE SUN: “No one will ever stand trial”
Because no one has been charged with any crime?
Or: “NOBODY will EVER stand trial over missing Madeleine McCann because cops made so many vital blunders,” says the Sun. And so too says Jose Anes, 62: “Mistakes in the early hours demolished the entire case”
The ex-director of Lisbon’s police lab is “Portugal’s top forensic expert”, a billing the lab’s current director may dispute
Mr Anes says: “If the scene is not preserved in the first hours, all the hours of effort that follow are useless. I am utterly convinced — unless some new, concrete evidence suddenly emerges — the case will never reach trial”
But what of the evidence gathered so far, like the DNA samples found in the McCanns’ hire car?
“Maddie sniffer dog ‘was rigged’” - Gerry McCann is “FURIOUS” – as often he is. He “believes sniffer dogs used to find Maddie clues in the family’s hire car were MANIPULATED by cops”
Says a “source close to the couple”: “Gerry says a dog went up to the Scenic, sniffed around and went to head off. He watched the dog being brought back to the vehicle. Finally, it reacts around the boot area. Gerry was open-mouthed at that, he feels the dog was manoeuvred into a position where it could react”
And smell
“Murat pals ’saw him near flat’” – “SUSPECT Robert Murat was PALS with British holiday nannies who say they saw him the night Maddie vanished, it has emerged”
Good friends? “And at least two of the girls knew him well enough to be on first name terms”
That’s close, eh
“A source confirmed yesterday that he did befriend several girls, adding: ‘A lot are attractive and he made a beeline for them. When they were asked who was near the apartment that night, several mentioned Murat”
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine: Forensics expert says inquiry is ‘complete waste’ because of police blunders at apartment”
Says Jose Manuel Anes: “Huge amounts of money were spent but if, in the first hours, the due precautions for the preservation of the crime scene were not taken, all this hard work goes down the drain. We can spend rivers of money which will all go down the drain if the crime scene is not properly isolated”
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell says: “It is alarming to hear that Mr Anes has this view. All we want, and have done throughout, is to ensure the operational police side of this has been done in an effective and efficient manner as possible”
And why is Mr Anes – “the 62-year-old” - speaking out now? Because he’s making his comments known in a book called The McCanns’ Guilt – not that the case will ever, come to trial, you understand
“Madeleine: Gerry’s fury at ‘bungling’ dog handlers” – More Gerry McCann fury
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE COPS HIDE WITNESS”
Says the paper: “The key witness in the Madeleine McCann inquiry was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal” – Jane Tanner? Kate McCann? Gerry McCann? No, the unnamed Portuguese tapas waiter…
“Pals say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and claim he is also scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe…Friends add that he is worried about the private eyes hired by Gerry and Kate McCann, both 39, to help find their daughter”
One former work colleague of the waiter says: “He does not want to be involved in any of this. Through no fault of his own he finds himself at the heart of this worldwide mystery”
DAILY EXPRESS: “MADELEINE: WITNESS GOES ON THE RUN ‘TO PROTECT HIS EVIDENCE’”
“THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal”
“POLICE WERE ‘SIDETRACKED’ BY MCCANNS” - Former police crime scene chief Jose Manuel Anes is “ONE of Portugal’s top forensic experts”
The WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPER investigates. Mr Anes is “71”
And “last night hinted that Kate and Gerry McCann were partly to blame for the flawed investigation into their daughter’s disappearance”. Although the Sun says it was those bungling Portuguese police (see above)?
“They should not have been thinking of the poor little parents but I understand the human dimension and the pressure which immediately involved the investigators. Sometimes the police are too human. The police must be absolutely objective. Somebody’s suggestions and complaints connected to a person’s disappearance should be set aside while the evidence is being gathered. In the moments immediately following the occurrence the goal is to gather everything and preserve everything”
Not bungling, rather too caring; too human
DAILY MIRROR: “McCann DNA clue ‘useless’”
Jose Manuel Anes is 62. He is the retired head of Portugal’s police science laboratory.
He tells the Mirror, and everyone else: “I fear the case will never reach trial” - and even if it did, no jury would be able to convict anyone.
BBC: Audience for BBC News 24 peaked in 2007 at 8.2 million in the week ending 1 July for the bomb attack on Glasgow Airport and at 7.9 million for the story of the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann in the week ending 13 May
Madeleine McCann: The ratings winner
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December 18th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Thanks Harry / Increasingly Incredulous
Your post is very clear - you’re not qualified to talk about pictures so obviously altered, but you’re a clever lad when it comes to commenting on police investigations.
There’s nothing, but nothing, but absolutely nothing outside what the gutter journalists in this country invent, that in anyway suggests that the PJ did anything wrong.
Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t (and I do believe they must have done something wrong otherwise Amaral would not have been taken off the case).
But we’ll only know in January - and not through the british press.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
276 Dont you hope!
Earlier I asked a legal question, as you speak as if you have some legal background can you explain why is it that Jane Tanner, Kate cCann and Gerry McCann, if considered both defendants and key witnesses for both defence and prosecution, would cause difficluties in a court in England and Wales?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
273 They only attack and scoff. They’d collapse in a courtroom, as discrepnacies in their arguments would be exposed, if the lawyers were good (on both sides). Though we have to remember that Portugal isnt an adversarial jurisprudence.
Bottom line. Abduction - no evidence except from witnesses who are implicated in a conspiracy (Gerry McCann and Jane Tanner, also theyare the start and end of the window of opportunity).
The window of opportunity is 5 minutes or less, so if we accept the only evidence of abduction, we reduce the opportunity instantly to under 5 minutes.
It would be easy to prove that was not possible, even easier if the blood under the tiles turns out to be reliable - no time to scrub clean the apartment!
So, having disposed of this, we are left with the T9 implicated. Worse for them Jane tanner would, as a result of the dismissal of the abduction theory, be shown to be an unreliable witness, worse in fact. Other T9 members would also be cast into the shadow of conspiracy.
It is here that we, without the knowledge which the UK police and the PJ have, struggle to prove anything else. It is here that the pro-mccanners think they are strong and it is why they will not discuss the details of abduction, but love to attack the ‘rumour’ of all other evidence.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
274 Ian Says:
“271 Ferdinand
Friedns of the McCanns, Source close to the McCanns etc etc…why not apply your rules to these too? Or is it that you are a little biased?”
It was meant as an observation rather than a suggestion, and of course it is applied to all sources.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Ian,
there is no evidence of any probative value against the Doctors McCann, and there will be no trial and no conviction.
Ian
I have wasted enough time stating the obvious.
I am not qualified to judge the photos. If you feel you have something to add - tell the PJ, their expertise may well run to photoshop or whatever.
Not sealing the room until days afterwards is a start when it comes to the shortcomings of the PJ - not stopping the leaks etc leaving it so late to look for finger prints. Not securing the hire car.
It would be easier to identify what these chippy amateurs got right
Again, I dismiss this truly hopeless case
December 18th, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Very disturbing story in the Portuguese quality daily, looks like this case is riven with internal politics and is dead in the water. http://www.correiomanha.pt/noticia.asp?id=270291&idselect=10&idCanal=10&p=200
December 18th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Sherlock
Thats ok
You can talk to me anytime
December 18th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
271 Ferdinand
Friedns of the McCanns, Source close to the McCanns etc etc…why not apply your rules to these too? Or is it that you are a little biased?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Ian
bored aint the word?
did he have any answer to my question ?
no!!!
Harry makes Garthy look intelligent
December 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
No wonder Murat offered himself as translater for the defensless family. I can just imagine him being allowed inside the villa feeling a sence of pride that he pulled it off twice. Now inside Murat could smoke and trash the place and ensure nothing was left behind. Bastard he knows he did it his lap dog girl friend who looks like the queen of cold hearts knows he did it.
The bastard should swollow his balls and picture his own baby in that circumstance and come clean. Murat was the spotter for these child rapisist, sick people that should be put down like wounded animals that they are.
The only way out for Murat and his lap dog is to come clean and get ammunity for information.
God help you all if she has been hurt, the world is against you now until she is found safe.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
261 Harry Hind Sight Says:
“I beg to differ, it is game wholly without rules”
I think I have detected some rules, for example: If a newspaper cites “sources close to”, then this is admissable evidence. If another newspaper cites other “sources”, then this is also admissable evidence. And if there are any contradictions between both sources, then this is concidered as proof that the suspects lied.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
256 SalomonES
Who is he, and why is he in the pic?
Just some guy copping an eyeful of the calm, still, quietly beautiful Kate.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
Let’s not be pesimistic! PJ has, mainly Rebelo team, has never stopped working on the case since the beginning. They simply don’t stop. Everyday, the press drops something new, although not amazing bombshells, but they are always giving steps ahead, regardless the pathetical clarrie’s statements, the opinion of old Portuguese or British forensic experts, the calumnious comments from poisoned columnists, the terrible political pressure, both in Portugal as in the UK, the unfair contempt from a certain part of the public opinion…. REGARDLESS all these, they keep working!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
263 Incresingly Incredulous - good one!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
265 Actually there isnt a porble, I got that wrong, there is a problem though!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
263 - so you are judging the portuguese police on the “objective and observed fact that Alipio Ribeiro said that his officers would visit the UK nine weeks ago”. But they did visit the UK a few weeks ago didn’t they? To meet with the FSS?
Why would this discredit the investigation?
What other observed and objective fact that is so obviously discrediting the portuguese investigation do you mean?
Sorry - but i didn’t get your point about the tabs. I recommended that you put the UK and Portuguese press aside for a moment (they could be argued are partisan), and focus on respectable international publications. What have they been revealing as overwhelming example of PJ incompetence? Could you tell me? I really think it would give some needed credibility to your line of argumentation.
And - whilst we are talking about observed facts - do you think that the pictures produced by the McCanns were manipulated or not?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:27 pm
261 Bollocks Harry - there is a very significant case to answer and chief witnesses are indeed the chief suspects!
As you will know, there is a porble there…go on tell me what it is, you seem to think you know the law. Stick to England and Wales, it should make it easier for you to explain the difficulty.
Anyway, whislt you try to answer that, I think Brandon got bored with your stupid game. Its always the same, pro-mccanners try to get everyone else to do the work. In fact, all we have to say is, the T9 includes people with varying degrees of guilt - abduction by stranger has been disproved (to a reasonable level) and all alternatives necessarily include knowledge of criminal involvement of the T9.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
256 SalomonES
Who is he, and why is he in the pic?
Ask Kate and Gerry, luv!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
“241 - you see the difference between me an you is that you believe what you read in the tabloid press, and I don’t believe in anything I read in the tabloid press”
Except, of course, when it suits your case……
“Fair enough - your choice….”
It seems remarkably consistent, doesn’t it? It both the UK and Portugal, for instance…..
“. After all who are we to judge the police on the grounds of unnammed sources and dubious reports printed in a less than respected press across the world ..”
I’m hapy to judge based not on those reports, but observed and objective fact, and “on the record” comment.
Like then continued absence of the PJ officers for these interviews - now nine weeks and counting since Ribeiro, the Head of the PJ said “on the record” to El Pais his officers would be here “within days”.
“The more you try to discredit the portuguese investigation the more obvious becomes that you are unable to find reasonable justifications for the McCanns behaviour before and since Madeleine was reported missing..”
And that sounds remarkably like a hissy fit from someone who knows their fox has been well and truly shot…….
December 18th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Brandon Flowers:
Sweetheart I was referring to Incresingly “f***ing” Incredulous - not you my precious.
Kisses xx
December 18th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Ferdinand,
I beg to differ, it is game wholly without rules
- earlier, I invited the forum’s lead prosecutor, Brandon, to call evidence - and what happened?
Rather than having any witnesses of their own - the best they could come up with was some fairly tame cross examination questions to put to the Doctors McCann, which over looked the need to make out a case before any evidence would be heard from the Doctors McCann.
In this game, if seems that there is no need for the prosecution to lead off and establish a primia facie case.
In fairness, I therefore had no choice but to dismiss their presentment - but still they go on
No case to answer what what
December 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Harry 254 - thanks.
I think a similar system has been put in place successfully in France this year.
But still, no talk about closing borders is there?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
249 Totje
239
brandon flours, thanks for the link, I’ll be back after the cleaning is done
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Cleaning is done. Yes they seem [for me] a lot alike. On the other hand, I don’t know if that picture of mr Payne is a recent one. Old fashioned glasses?
However, IF they did recognise mr Murat [or just think they did], then surely they didn’t only recognise him by his face. Did they hear him say anything? They saw the man walking. Do the two of them walk or move alike also? Description of clothes? All circumstantional evidence to proove they’re right or wrong.
Sorry, I have to go to an appointment now. I’m late already [as allways].
May be tonight when I return we can discuss this further? I like discussing with you, you don’t get abusive. Tell me if you want to, okay?
Bye all!
December 18th, 2007 at 1:15 pm
255
Ferdinand Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
243 Meejician Says:
“HHS: “it would have been impossible for an abductor to strike without being seen”
- no need for a child minder then - even without a child minder it was impossible for an abductor to strike unseen.
Case dismissed
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So, no adbuctor?”
The rules of the game require that first the forum-prosecutors have to decide for a case, and then it’s up to the defenders to explain why it has to be dismissed.
The forum-prosecutors may then even try an alternative case (contrary to the real prosecutor), and this alternative case might well be dismissed on arguments contradictory to the arguments used in the original case.
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You seem curiously wedded to the notion of Anorak’s blog representing a microcosm of an adversarial legal system.
It isn’t, as Anorak himself has noted from the beginning…
December 18th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
253
Sherlock Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
241 - you see the difference between me an you is that you believe what you read in the tabloid press, and I don’t believe in anything I read in the tabloid press (irrespective of being for or against the McCanns involvement in
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241
brandon flours Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq2I9TFr
david payne
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are you referring to me darling?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
251 Ian
The link below shows the picture you mention
http://www.truthformadeleine.com/playground.htm
There was also a very good quality picture in paulo reis website http://www.gazetadigital.blogspot.com
but I can’t find it there.
Does anyone know who the tall bald man (with sunglasses) looking over is? I asked Stevo yesterday but couldn’t find his answer.
This is the same man that was in another picture (produced by Paulo reis) and that shows him walking along Robert Murat in the days after Madeleine disappeared.
Who is he and what is he doing in that photo?
December 18th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
243 Meejician Says:
“HHS: “it would have been impossible for an abductor to strike without being seen”
- no need for a child minder then - even without a child minder it was impossible for an abductor to strike unseen.
Case dismissed
************”
So, no adbuctor?”
The rules of the game require that first the forum-prosecutors have to decide for a case, and then it’s up to the defenders to explain why it has to be dismissed.
The forum-prosecutors may then even try an alternative case (contrary to the real prosecutor), and this alternative case might well be dismissed on arguments contradictory to the arguments used in the original case.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
This is how these cases are dealt with in the UK - bet Portugal has nothing to compare.
As one can see, in appropriate cases the country goes into virtual lock-down what what hey hey
From Wikipedia
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[edit] England’s Child Rescue Alert system
England has developed the Child Rescue Alert, similar to the American AMBER Alert.[8] The system works in a way, where in the local area of the suspected abduction, radio and television broadcasts are immediately interrupted (even in some cases during mid-speech) and listeners/viewers are provided details of anything to look out for. Some counties include Variable message signs which alerts drivers on major roads to be on the lookout for that missing person or a car on the road.
In England, the counties of Hampshire, Leicestershire, Surrey, Sussex, Gloucestershire, Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Norfolk, Derbyshire, Suffolk, Thames Valley, Wiltshire, and Somerset, and the London Metropolitan Police Service, have adopted a similar program called the Child Rescue Alert system. Sussex was the first to launch the system, on November 14, 2002.[9] It is based on and has alert requirements similar to the American system.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18]
There are four key criteria in England’s Child Rescue Alert system to be met before a Child Rescue Alert is issued
The child is apparently under 18 years old.
There is a reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted.
There is reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death, and
There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist police in locating the child.
Members of the public will be encouraged to keep their eyes and ears open for anything that may help the police in finding the abducted child. If they see anything they should call the police on 999.[19]
On 20th June 2007, the first such alert for a long period was issued.
December 18th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
241 - you see the difference between me an you is that you believe what you read in the tabloid press, and I don’t believe in anything I read in the tabloid press (irrespective of being for or against the McCanns involvement in this case).
For all I know everything is open - the PJ may have screwed up and perhaps they didn’t screw up. You just seem to think that they did bungle the investigation based on the account of the tabs that pay up a few quid to get some self proclaimed experts / consultants / etc to come and talk about things they never saw. Fair enough - your choice.
I’m a bit less full of myself. After all who are we to judge the police on the grounds of unnammed sources and dubious reports printed in a less than respected press across the world (you surely don’t think that tabs inc. times and telegraph are considered independent sources of information do you?)
IMO You’d be a bit more credible if you would quote from the international (non partisan) press, to suggest shortcomings in the portuguese investigation. But you cant do that can you? Because from the moment the mccanns set foot on German soil they were asked about their involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. Because all reports coming from Italy, Spain, France and Belgium give a very different account about the portuguese investigation don’t they?
The more you try to discredit the portuguese investigation the more obvious becomes that you are unable to find reasonable justifications for the McCanns behaviour before and since Madeleine was reported missing.
Be patient…
December 18th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Increasingly incredulous…
Alas, I have never been in the slightest credulous, but if I had my tolerance level would surely have been exceeded by the discovery that the McCanns had helpfully forwarded 150 ’specific’ psychic predictions for investigation by the PJ…