Madeleine McCann: The Age Of Jose Anes, Gerry McCann’s Fury And Murat’s Nannies Know Best
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
THE SUN: “No one will ever stand trial”
Because no one has been charged with any crime?
Or: “NOBODY will EVER stand trial over missing Madeleine McCann because cops made so many vital blunders,” says the Sun. And so too says Jose Anes, 62: “Mistakes in the early hours demolished the entire case”
The ex-director of Lisbon’s police lab is “Portugal’s top forensic expert”, a billing the lab’s current director may dispute
Mr Anes says: “If the scene is not preserved in the first hours, all the hours of effort that follow are useless. I am utterly convinced — unless some new, concrete evidence suddenly emerges — the case will never reach trial”
But what of the evidence gathered so far, like the DNA samples found in the McCanns’ hire car?
“Maddie sniffer dog ‘was rigged’” - Gerry McCann is “FURIOUS” – as often he is. He “believes sniffer dogs used to find Maddie clues in the family’s hire car were MANIPULATED by cops”
Says a “source close to the couple”: “Gerry says a dog went up to the Scenic, sniffed around and went to head off. He watched the dog being brought back to the vehicle. Finally, it reacts around the boot area. Gerry was open-mouthed at that, he feels the dog was manoeuvred into a position where it could react”
And smell
“Murat pals ’saw him near flat’” – “SUSPECT Robert Murat was PALS with British holiday nannies who say they saw him the night Maddie vanished, it has emerged”
Good friends? “And at least two of the girls knew him well enough to be on first name terms”
That’s close, eh
“A source confirmed yesterday that he did befriend several girls, adding: ‘A lot are attractive and he made a beeline for them. When they were asked who was near the apartment that night, several mentioned Murat”
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine: Forensics expert says inquiry is ‘complete waste’ because of police blunders at apartment”
Says Jose Manuel Anes: “Huge amounts of money were spent but if, in the first hours, the due precautions for the preservation of the crime scene were not taken, all this hard work goes down the drain. We can spend rivers of money which will all go down the drain if the crime scene is not properly isolated”
The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell says: “It is alarming to hear that Mr Anes has this view. All we want, and have done throughout, is to ensure the operational police side of this has been done in an effective and efficient manner as possible”
And why is Mr Anes – “the 62-year-old” - speaking out now? Because he’s making his comments known in a book called The McCanns’ Guilt – not that the case will ever, come to trial, you understand
“Madeleine: Gerry’s fury at ‘bungling’ dog handlers” – More Gerry McCann fury
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE COPS HIDE WITNESS”
Says the paper: “The key witness in the Madeleine McCann inquiry was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal” – Jane Tanner? Kate McCann? Gerry McCann? No, the unnamed Portuguese tapas waiter…
“Pals say he is terrified his identity is about to be revealed and claim he is also scared of British and Portuguese government influence in the probe…Friends add that he is worried about the private eyes hired by Gerry and Kate McCann, both 39, to help find their daughter”
One former work colleague of the waiter says: “He does not want to be involved in any of this. Through no fault of his own he finds himself at the heart of this worldwide mystery”
DAILY EXPRESS: “MADELEINE: WITNESS GOES ON THE RUN ‘TO PROTECT HIS EVIDENCE’”
“THE key witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal”
“POLICE WERE ‘SIDETRACKED’ BY MCCANNS” - Former police crime scene chief Jose Manuel Anes is “ONE of Portugal’s top forensic experts”
The WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPER investigates. Mr Anes is “71”
And “last night hinted that Kate and Gerry McCann were partly to blame for the flawed investigation into their daughter’s disappearance”. Although the Sun says it was those bungling Portuguese police (see above)?
“They should not have been thinking of the poor little parents but I understand the human dimension and the pressure which immediately involved the investigators. Sometimes the police are too human. The police must be absolutely objective. Somebody’s suggestions and complaints connected to a person’s disappearance should be set aside while the evidence is being gathered. In the moments immediately following the occurrence the goal is to gather everything and preserve everything”
Not bungling, rather too caring; too human
DAILY MIRROR: “McCann DNA clue ‘useless’”
Jose Manuel Anes is 62. He is the retired head of Portugal’s police science laboratory.
He tells the Mirror, and everyone else: “I fear the case will never reach trial” - and even if it did, no jury would be able to convict anyone.
BBC: Audience for BBC News 24 peaked in 2007 at 8.2 million in the week ending 1 July for the bomb attack on Glasgow Airport and at 7.9 million for the story of the kidnapping of Madeleine McCann in the week ending 13 May
Madeleine McCann: The ratings winner
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December 19th, 2007 at 2:25 am
875 Murder
I do believe Her Ladyship visits from time to time, like a wraith. His Fragrant Lordship, too. I feel the icy coldness not brought by the breeze when they come.
December 19th, 2007 at 2:22 am
865 Kris
Scarf a few down–you will be much happier!
December 19th, 2007 at 2:19 am
875 Charlotte
Got it from the papers, luv, same as always.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:58 am
[aka Our Lady of the Sorrows, aka Lady McCann (of the Scouse Play - very keen on cleaning, like her Scottish counterpart).]
December 19th, 2007 at 1:55 am
[Rushes back over to computer from ever-more-chaotic kitchen area]
Oh yes, of course, catastrophe - how appropriate.
The combination of Jane & Maria’s posts was really quite an eye-opener. I didn’t really believe until then, despite all the banter with Young Garth, quite how close this board was to Our Lady of Rothley.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:50 am
That Ausonius produces some damn good wine (sorry, still in gastronomic mode, doubtless wasted on the kids - no, not the ones here).
On Jane’s last post - I interpreted that as ’sounding the retreat’. Remigius - what’s that Greek word for the ‘turnaround’ in a Greek tragedy - my mind’s addled by the Rémy Martin (my Christian name!) award at 827, and the heroic efforts which earned it.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:50 am
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Remigius Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 am
859 Meejician
How about: “turpe quid ausurus, te sine teste time,” and send it on to Team McCann?
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Here’s a good scam - we could do Latin posts and totally confuse the opposition
Vita perit, mortis gloria non moritur.
Hey hey!
December 19th, 2007 at 1:48 am
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Remigius Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
514 Batman
If the DNA was taken from a site indoors, and there has been no further “cleaning” of the apartment since the McCanns supposedly scoured the place with bleach, then, actually, the DNA is not likely to have degraded all that much.
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REPLY: Remigius, may I inquire where you picked up the idea that the apartment was scoured with bleach? I have noted also the past week or so others have menti0ned that.
Just in case I am correct in my suspicion as how this latest erroneous assumption got started, let me explain something to you and others who chose to deliberately misuse the information as ‘gospel’ to spread through the lands, so to speak, and further add upon unfounded evidence to use against the McCanns.
A couple of weeks ago when all were in an uproar on here about the McCanns cleaning the apartment and contaminating DNA evidence, etc. I made it a point to explain in order to destroy and remove all evidence of blood - bleach or clorox is sometimes found to be used but the odor gives it away to police investigating a crime. I further pointed out that using such products leaves a very heavy smell that lasts for days and cannot be missed. I also pointed out that any where those products touch colour is removed from any fabrics coming in contact with it. Then I very sarcastically told all of those who insisted the McCanns destroyed evidence in the apartment to rush down to the local grocery store where they stayed and see how many gallons they must have bought. Thus, the example of the use of bleach/clorox was told to all of you sarcastically as it would have been impossible to use it without a very strong lasting odor, which could not be wiped away, leaving white splotches and removing colour on any fabric it touched and also discolours wood .
December 19th, 2007 at 1:43 am
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Maria Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 am
I only follow the Leicester Mercury now,
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Hey! I have one avid reader!
December 19th, 2007 at 1:39 am
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Kris Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:31 am
862 - Truly are you always “brutally” honest? why?? No tact?
Anyone who claims to always be brutally honest, I tend to think they are a liar. Maybe that’s just me, though, and my donut-starved brain.
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I’m very interested in people who believe that honesty is a lie. Would you like to take part in my PhD research project? It would only involve a psychological questionnaire? But your responses would be very valuable. Thanks.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 am
859 Meejician
How about: “turpe quid ausurus, te sine teste time,” and send it on to Team McCann?
December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 am
751 Tony Bennett
Thanks for your earlier answer. I think the fact that JW was with his toddler child was mentioned early on. Others will have links. I’m very lazy about keeping them.
(Off topic now but answering points raised by TB. Scroll on past!)
Intrigued how can you be so sure Christ’s birth was exactly 2BC? I thought it was generally thought by scholars to be any time between 7 and 4 BC? Of course Christmas/Christianity were grafted on to previous religions, in many different times and places. Does that matter? Exact dates and places don’t matter much in this particular case, to me anyway. Isn’t it the significance of the coming of Christ, for people who believe in him, that counts, rather than the exact moment, day, year or place? I believe BOTH the wise men AND the shepherds are widely regarded as later additions to the nativity accounts? Similarly, possibly, Bethlehem. So many OT links! I’m not a fundamentalist. The Magi signify to me gentile “wisdom” brought under Christ’s dominion and the shepherds (no offence to any shepherds here!) signify “outsiders” brought into his saving grace, indeed, told about it first, before the mighty. The only thing about December, in some countries, is the metaphorical and evocative image of his light shining in the darkness of winter. There are so many different, varied views put forward by so-called experts, exegetes of all persuasions, that, in the end, I have come to my own what I hope are reasonable, if not totally provable, conclusions.
But for many perfectly reasonable people, carols just remind them of childhood and Christmas is, at best, a season of goodwill (or not!) and a time for the family to be together (or not!) Unless, of course, it’s just a time for even more booze and consumerism than usual. And for others, it’s just an irrelevance. I send “religious” cards to friends who are Christian and robins to those who are not! I myself haven’t found any shortage of religious cards.
Feel free to draw any conclusions you wish from what I say! I imagine they’ll be laughably wrong.
After Christmas I will try to collate articles from the earliest days of the investigation. I wasn’t taking much interest in such details then. I DID google all the fund directors, very early on, though there wasn’t much about them, before I decided to donate, but that was about it on the net. I generally relied on TV news and my own daily paper. Later, I got a bee in my bonnet about looking at the local Glasgow and Liverpool papers and, most of all, the Leicester Mercury. For two reasons. I expected them to give a bit more about the McCanns’ backgrounds and, possibly, to be a bit more careful than the nationals since one assumes (maybe wrongly?) at least a degree of support in those localities which the papers might not wish to alienate totally, for the usual base reasons. This was when the nationals were being especially poisonous, in my personal view. I only follow the Leicester Mercury now, apart from the nationals. So I did file a few early articles from those papers but nothing from the nationals. (Actually, I didn’t find a lot of difference once the arguido bit came in, except perhaps a few more articles linked to family members.)
I got hooked, especially by the disgraceful media treatment of Murat. I’d never really watched 24 hour news but I did over this story so I saw exactly what Sky did to him, digging around for irrelevant dirt AND broadcasting it. I wrote to Sky, and a couple of papers, as I have done about the McCanns as well (not Sky) and received either nothing or meaningless replies. My very first posts to Anorak were about libel v free speech on the net!! And THAT remains to this day a major focus of my interest, personal and professional. But I don’t think I’ve ever hidden that?
Have to agree totally about psychobabble and recovered memory! Some so-called abuse cases are based on such nonsense. (Which isn’t to downgrade the horrific damage caused by child abuse.)
Mad busy but maybe time for another Anorak visit before that pagan festival!! If not, have a nice ordinary day on 25th!
December 19th, 2007 at 1:34 am
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Murder Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:31 am
You didn’t SEE this????
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Jane Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 2:01 am
Meejician:
It has also put into some doubt my own trust in an old friend. I don’t like those who rewrite their own histories, for their own purposes.
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As it’s fairly obvious who your ‘old friend’, AN Other, may be, I am astounded that you would post this to the internet.
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Oh that?????
What on earth does Jane mean? It went whoosh, over my head
December 19th, 2007 at 1:32 am
…Still haven’t moussed up Charlotte completely, I’ll check back at the next pause.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:32 am
Am now off to bed, Murder. It’s long past sleepy times for OAPs.
I’d like that Charlotte recipe, so if you’d ask Mods for my email addy, I give permission for you to send it to me
And whatever…………..
December 19th, 2007 at 1:31 am
862 - Truly are you always “brutally” honest? why?? No tact?
Anyone who claims to always be brutally honest, I tend to think they are a liar. Maybe that’s just me, though, and my donut-starved brain.
I’ll be back later– I’m hoping for a good rumble with Hideki. Got distracted last night researching thoughtforms.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:31 am
You didn’t SEE this????
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Jane Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 2:01 am
Meejician:
It has also put into some doubt my own trust in an old friend. I don’t like those who rewrite their own histories, for their own purposes.
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As it’s fairly obvious who your ‘old friend’, AN Other, may be, I am astounded that you would post this to the internet.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:28 am
Darn, looks like Remigius is gone. I was going to ask him for a donut.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:24 am
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Murder Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 1:17 am
Actually, I think Charlotte is rather ill-defined, like libel. The naughty old queen probably only cared about the sponge fingers (don’t quote that sentence out of context).
I was gobsmacked, though, by Jane’s, um, Last Post… what did you make of that?
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Blimey, haven’t seen it! Did we have trumpets? Can you direct me there now that you’ve moussed Charlotte?
December 19th, 2007 at 1:17 am
Actually, I think Charlotte is rather ill-defined, like libel. The naughty old queen probably only cared about the sponge fingers (don’t quote that sentence out of context).
I was gobsmacked, though, by Jane’s, um, Last Post… what did you make of that?
December 19th, 2007 at 1:10 am
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Murder Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Mmmmm… Yumm…
That hot Meunier paste really puts things in perspective.
Meej - on the first point, it was a rather tongue-in-cheek question. Obviously McCannology is a subdiscipline of Blog Studies which is a subdiscipline of Autism Research.
I actually (seriously) think, as I suggested a couple of threads ago, that the McCann Mystery presents (as you also seem to believe) a landmark case-study in various intersecting fields, but I haven’t got time before the eggwhites start to collapse to go into any more detail (I’d sincerely like to discuss this, though, at some point).
As for the scouse drama last night - I think Maria might simply have been rather naive. And I thought you were sailing pretty close to the wind.
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Story of my life, mate.
I edge just on the side of legality, but I know how to do it. I’ve been in this business for 30 years.
I don’t think Maria was naive. She’s never naive. I think she was playing point-scoring in an effort to discredit my evidence. And in this case, she shot herself in the foot, because she didn’t expect me to be truthful and perfectly honest. No one ever expects that. It’s not in the script.
I am always brutally honest. That’s my USP. It works even better on telly and radio than it does in print or on message boards.
December 19th, 2007 at 1:05 am
I said earlier it was complicated… sort of charlotte-mousse crossover. I hope the kids appreciate it.
December 19th, 2007 at 12:56 am
Checking my post before leaving, saw your post:
852 Châtelaine
844 Totje Says:
“842 Châtelaine
And I’m definitely not referring to people disturbing posters, which you call “sweeties”
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Either I don’t understand what you’re saying, or you didn’t understand what/whom I meant. So please explain?
December 19th, 2007 at 12:55 am
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PeterMac Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 12:24 am
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Remigius Says:
December 18th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
458 Harry Hind Sight
Envy? I doubt that very much. It’s true enough that some people will envy anybody. But ask yourself–if you needed to select a “physician,” would you select EITHER of the Drs. McCann?
No. I didn’t think so.
“ubi desinit philosophus, ibi incipit medicus.
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Good to see some accurate Latin, albeit courtesy of the blessed and brilliant Kit Marlowe. Makes a change from the futile attempts of Harry Halfwit wot wot, and the idiocies of Quality Control.
December 19th, 2007 at 12:50 am
Bye all. Keep up the good works, and be nice to eachother
December 19th, 2007 at 12:49 am
847
Andy, thanks for posting that. He [mr Murat] still keeps me puzzled, the’re some odd things that caught my eye. Have to check the sources. Will follow up tomorrow [evening], have to go to sleep now [it's GMT+1 over here] because I have an early appointment.
December 19th, 2007 at 12:45 am
Mmmmm… Yumm…
That hot Meunier paste really puts things in perspective.
Meej - on the first point, it was a rather tongue-in-cheek question. Obviously McCannology is a subdiscipline of Blog Studies which is a subdiscipline of Autism Research.
I actually (seriously) think, as I suggested a couple of threads ago, that the McCann Mystery presents (as you also seem to believe) a landmark case-study in various intersecting fields, but I haven’t got time before the eggwhites start to collapse to go into any more detail (I’d sincerely like to discuss this, though, at some point).
As for the scouse drama last night - I think Maria might simply have been rather naive. And I thought you were sailing pretty close to the wind.
(So congratulations, Clipper!)
Really must finish the Charlotte now, at the other corner of the loft - but if you can be bothered to post any response, I’ll reply when the New Medium (Egg) Christmas pudding is in the fridge.
Regards - Eggman.
December 19th, 2007 at 12:44 am
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Murder Says:
December 19th, 2007 at 12:10 am
Dunno what you’re doing with them eggs, but it’s really unnecessary for a Charlotte to beat yolks, unless you’re doing a mousse?
December 19th, 2007 at 12:37 am
THAT ACHILLES TENDON INJURY AGAIN
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1. FROM THE BRIDGET O’DONNELL ARTICLE
“Gerry had knocked up at the start of the 4.30pm tennis-drills session, but had decided not to exacerbate an injury to his Achilles tendon, so had dropped out and waited around by the courts until the children came back from the kids’ clubs at 5pm for tea.”
2. FROM MARK WARNERS WAITERS, DAILY EXPRESS ARTICLE, 24 OCTOBER 2007:
“What we found really strange was Gerry playing tennis a few days after the little girl disappeared.
“He played with an old couple from England. I just thought that everybody else in the group seemed more upset and stressed and bothered than the parents.
“They are very cool people. I never saw them cry or anything. They played tennis and went jogging”.
3. COMMENT ON ANOTHER FORUM:
Achilles heel injuries, as anyone who runs will know, take ages to clear up, and the rehab is extremely slow and infuriating. The very last thing you’d do even after a lengthy lay-off, when returning to running, is run every day, on hard and uneven ground, up very steep hills (the one in PDL is so steep you almost have to scramble in places, and the ground is gravelly and slippery), trying to break your personal best each time.
Apart from that, I believe every word of Gerry’s story about his Achilles tendon injury.
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P.S. From Tony: I though they had ‘high tea’ - *with the nanny* - AT the kid’s creche, at 5.30pm/6pm.
Now where could I have got that idea from?
Charlotte Pennington?
Time to check with Grery again before you give your next interview, Charlotte!
December 19th, 2007 at 12:34 am
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