Madeleine McCann: Praia da Luz Calls, Maddy Shunned And Portugal On The Edge
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
DAILY MAIL page 36: “Madeleine: Portuguese detectives trawl thousands of phone records”
Police are looking through phone records of Praia da Luz’a 27,000 residents at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance. They are looking for unusual call patterns. Bugging calls
A local resident of Praia da Luz says the police questioned her, saying: “We are investigating all calls made within Praia da Luz from 9.30pm onwards on May 3″
Says the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell: “Any information could prove vital”
THE SUN page 15: “Maddie cops seize local phone bills”
“They are using a method of triangulation which pinpoints a person’s location via their mobile and are also checking land-line calls”
Can it work? Says the Sun: “Mobile phone evidence exposed holes in the alibi of Soham murderer Ian Huntley”. And that is similar to this case because..?
DAILY MIRROR front page: “MADDY – Blitz to fined phone clues”
Page 10: “COPS CHECK EVERY CALL ON DAY MADDY VANISHED”
Well, not every call. Just calls made in the area of Praia da Luz by those 1,000 persons on a police list
DAILY EXPRESS page 19: “Now Madeleine police seize all phone records”
The papers says the search is in light of talk of a “massive conspiracy”. The Express is belived to be fond of a conspiracy
Says Clarence Mitchell: “Kate and Gerry are encouraged by this police work because it shows the investigation is now active and thorough…Crucially they also hope it may lead to them being reunited with Madeleine”
DAILY STAR: “PARENTS SHY AWAY FROM NAME ‘MADDY’”
Or Madeleine, for that is her name
The name Madeleine is “now lower than at any time in the past five years”. It is now the 80th most popular name. Says a child psychologist called Ruth: “The majority of people who hear the name Madeleine automatically associate it with her”
What the top girl’s name is readers are not told, nor where Kate features. The Telegraph says it is “Grace”, as in Baby Grace
NEW YORK TIMES: “Portugal Polishes Its Image as the ‘West Coast of Europe’”
Portugal wants to reposition itself. Portugal is exciting, shiny, new and historical.
But: “The unsolved case remains a big story for the British tabloids, and there have been reports of declines in tourism from Britain, an important market for Portugal.
“Over all, though, tourism remains strong, Manuel Pinho, Portugal’s minister for the economy and innovation said. ‘This is a tragic case, of course, but it has not affected the numbers,’ he said. ‘It’s a very peaceful country, a very safe country’”
The demonising of Portugal and the case of Madeleine McCann
Posted: 20th, December 2007 | In: Madeleine McCann Comments (547) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
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December 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
456 dcb
Thanks…
I’m actually less inspired now by the Chaplin’s story because the more I look, the less I find to back it up. I knew about Chaplin’s months ago but now I remember why it was dismissed then. It was one of those hearsay posts in several other forums. There was plenty of talk about it but nobody could provide reliable links to the story. Plus, it’s not in the press anywhere to my knowledge so Chaplin’s could be an urban myth.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
452
just_me Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
450 - was oldfield ever questioned? and if not then why? surely the last person to check the kids would also be a suspect!
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It’s as if Oldfield and O’Brian knew what was going down, and refused to place themselves at the scene of the crime.
You don’t hear anything about them being grilled for details on exactly what they saw and when, though they would have had to walk right by the window in question to get to the entry archways—let alone what did they hear when they poked their heads in the doors. Was the window open, or what?
Add to that, if they were all pursuaded to follow the leader, G, and leave their kids lolling around by themselves at night when they went to Chaplins, then it makes sense that they are keeping quiet because the McCs have told them about the child neglegence issues being a hot point with the PJ.
Therefore, they are afraid to admit that they also abandoned their kids regularly.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
445
Stevo Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
441 Tinsel
I read an article that talked in depth about rigor mortis but I recall it saying that it can be prolonged with a low constant temperature.
How do you make out with the theory that she perhaps died on May 1 and the T9 went to Chaplins?
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It would all depend on how reliable the creche records and witness testimonies from the staff about what children were there that day. I would think the creche would have a security camera.
I’m not convinced Kate has a solid alibi for her story of sitting by the pool that afternoon. One nanny supposedly saw her there talking to some of the other Tapas. Not very convincing.
If it’s true that all the little girls tended to blend into the group, there is credence to the story that she could have died earlier and give them more planning time. It seems the abduction show was hastily planned during the vacation.
They didn’t have time to get up all the blood. There was blood found on the wall, for instance.
It’s as if O’Brian chickened out that evening. Made himself scarce. Oldfield too. It’s as if they were trying to physically distance themselves from the apartment crime scene.
You have G constantly trying to shore up the story.
My estimate is that it happened around 2:30 on May 3 and the afternoon creche stories are wrong.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Unless of course Oldfield knew he only had to check on the twins!
December 20th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
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stevo - first mentioned today at:
Jez Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 10:58 am
It is simply appalling that the eight infants could have been left alone while the TP 9/10 dined as far away as Chaplins. This has been pretty much kept out of the press, whilst concentration has been left with the lesser evil of the Tapas neglect.
Far, far worse neglect and opportunity for catastrophe (or easier abduction) surrounds Chaplins. Attention must be drawn to this and focus put on the actual date, timings and attendants. We know so little. It doesn’t take much to conclude that the demise of poor MM more likely occurred that night. IMO
December 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
452 just_me
Well exactly - but there has been nothing whatsoever about him in any report that I have seen.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
449…Stevo
Too right !!
Am surprised she hasn’t launched her own special “Perfume” yet.
All the Fem Celebs soon get on the particular bandwagon.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
Incidentally, why is the Chaplin’s story being discussed in here now? Who and why was it brought up? I notice the Mirror ran with this back in October. What’s changed to bring it all up again?
December 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
450 - was oldfield ever questioned? and if not then why? surely the last person to check the kids would also be a suspect!
December 20th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
450 dcb
And remember these people are doctors - you know…people entrusted to hold your life in their hands.
It beggars belief how incompetent they all were.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
I keep thinking of Oldfield’s check on the children. When he got back to the Tapas, what did he say -
“they’re fine”?,
“they’re all OK”?,
“twins are fine, didn’t check Maddie”?
- just what did he say I wonder? You can’t offer to check on children but then not report back on how they are can you?
December 20th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
447 Matt.
I certainly wouldn’t want to spend much time around KM…not with her track record of being around dead bodies.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
443
BabyJane
Good idea. So perhaps they were all at the Tapas bar on Tuesday May 1st but a few of them decided to go on to Chaplins for quiz night/happy hour. The others…Oldfield’s, Payne’s and Webster may have turned in for an early night.
I would have thought that they would have said something to the others considering going there that it would be irresponsible to leave the kids and go to Chaplins though. Unless…the decision to go there was made after they had all parted company.
I wonder what transpired then on Wednesday 2nd May?
December 20th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
446…Stevo
I hadn’t.
But maybe Dr K forgot to “claim” re that one.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
444 Matt.
You forgot Madeleine…7 (in the PJ’s opinion of course!)
December 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
441 Tinsel
I read an article that talked in depth about rigor mortis but I recall it saying that it can be prolonged with a low constant temperature.
How do you make out with the theory that she perhaps died on May 1 and the T9 went to Chaplins?
December 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
442…Stevo
Think she claimed 6.
Must have woken up in a mortuary after a night on the lash.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
437
Stevo Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
431 BabyJane
If Madeleine died and wasn’t found for a few hours, rigor mortis would have set in. Her body would be too rigid to move around very easily. Hiding places would be few and far between.
I think the idea of the parents out socialising at Chaplins and coming home late to find her dead is about the most plausible of all explanations. It covers why they’d want to cover it up and why no doctor’s or police would be called.
Who would take pity on two doctors smelling of alcohol who call the police to say that one of their neglected children was found D.O.A. when they got back to the room? Now, if the other T6 (not Webster - she didn’t have any toddlers) also neglected their children, the T6 would also go along with anything to hide the fact they also left their children alone when they all went to Chaplins.
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Just speculating: Maybe not all, but just TWO Tapas friends were involved and “helped” on Chalplin Day. Two days later, May 3, the rest of the Tapas possibly only believed (or were made believe) the checking on the kids inculded checking on M.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
439 Matt.
I know! Kate came into contact with 7 dead bodies didn’t she?
December 20th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
437
Stevo Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
431 BabyJane
rigor mortis
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In adults, at least, I’ve seen first hand that it takes quite a while for it to set in. And then strangely enough, it goes away entirely after about 72 hours.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
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Pilimary Says:
December 20th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Buenos días chicos!
NOt many news about Madeleine today, only the D.Mail reveals that housands of telephone calls from and to mobiles, made in PDL and surroundings from May 3rd onwards, are being tracked by the PJ. Other paper, don’t remember which one, says that the testimony of the waiter, best witness up to now, is the trump card of the PJ.
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That was an interesting report.
I was thinking it goes along with when the police seized hundreds of computer of known paedos.
If you can eliminate the known paeodophiles and you can eliminate everyone else in the area by virtue of the phone calls.
And if you can then locate all the Tapas 9 by virtue of their cell phones–which give off a signal as long as it is on.
Then by process of elimination and proving the whereabouts of the Tapas, then you would have a very strong case for the abduction being a hoax.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
This lot must have overlooked Dr K’s patch.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1256534,00.html
December 20th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
422 brandon flours Says: December 20th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Edit…
Madeleine missing since May 3This was a far cry from Mr Marco’s astonishing claims just a few days before that he knew who had kidnapped the little girl.
His comments sparked reports of a stand-up row with the McCanns, who accused him of harming the chances of finding their daughter alive.
On calling the spokesman the day after Mr Marco made his claims, Mr Mitchell said he knew nothing about them.
He questioned why, if Metodo 3 knew where the vanished girl was, they did not go and get her.
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Perhaps the “row” is part of the necessary charade to end to end the relationship in March, having of course moved circa £700,000 out of the fund? Just my opinion.
December 20th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
431 BabyJane
If Madeleine died and wasn’t found for a few hours, rigor mortis would have set in. Her body would be too rigid to move around very easily. Hiding places would be few and far between.
I think the idea of the parents out socialising at Chaplins and coming home late to find her dead is about the most plausible of all explanations. It covers why they’d want to cover it up and why no doctor’s or police would be called.
Who would take pity on two doctors smelling of alcohol who call the police to say that one of their neglected children was found D.O.A. when they got back to the room? Now, if the other T6 (not Webster - she didn’t have any toddlers) also neglected their children, the T6 would also go along with anything to hide the fact they also left their children alone when they all went to Chaplins.
So, on the 2nd and 3rd they had to produce photos showing Madeleine was still alive. That’s why there’s only 2 photos (essentially) and they are as weird as they come.
In my opinion I think all the Tapas crowd are in on it….but to varying degrees of involvement.
The clincher is the fact of leaving kids alone when they were at Chaplins - not the Tapas Bar…that’s the red herring IMO.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Construction at the church in PDL:
http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/church/5.%20After%20the%20wall%20and%20start%20of%20works.jpg
December 20th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
431 BabyJane
What I meant to say was, maybe they did search the apartment fridge.
With small children, that would be one of the first places I’d look.
But they’d find nothing if her body was hidden in another apartment fridge, which would have been easy to do. It could then have been moved back.
Nobody was likely searching the other apartments at the time. The police honestly thought she’d just walked out, looking for her parents, because she was gone and there was no sign of an abductor. So they weren’t looking for killers, they weren’t looking for a body stuffed into a fridge…at the time.
That might account for the smell of cadaver on kate’s clothing and body the dogs picked up.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
431 BabyJane
She could have been moved from one fridge to another. They are all big enough. She was small enough to fit into a larg, black trash bag. Hard-frozen, her body would not have an odor. She might have melted in the car. Hence, the cadaver fluid and hair allegedly found in the boot.
But I find Stevo’s account of the proximity of the church and Chaplin’s interesting. I do believe it was much discussed on Anorak a good while back. And all the surrounding construction would likely not have escaped notice.
Maybe the PJ are checking the tel calls to see if the Maccers or Tapas called any cement mixers or contractors.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Re the fridges: If a child is missing, wouldn’t the police or the friends look EVERYWHERE, I mean at all the possible and impossible places where the kid could be? Even in the fridge? When my cat got missing years ago I looked for her at the oddest places, averywhere. I knew she could’nt have been in the washing maschine, because it was closed, but I looked inside anyway, because I was desperate.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
421…BabyJane
You can rest assured that there won’t be a happy ending. Sadly.
December 20th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
At Ocean Club from another apartment:
“There is maid service and the apartment is cleaned twice a week; rubbish is removed daily. Linen and towels are provided (except for beach towels). Towels and tea-towels are changed mid-week, linen once a week. There is a steam iron and ironing board, and a hair drier.”