
Madeleine McCann: A Paedo, A Blue Bag And The Orphans
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann.
DAILY MIRROR: “We want Madeleine’s toys to go to the little boys and girls who need them most - EXCLUSIVE: McCANNS HELP ORPHANS”
Kate and Gerry McCann have sent cuddly toys left for Madeleine at the now removed shrine in Leicestershire to orphans so they “give a little festive cheer to children who have nothing”
A friend says: “They were so touched with all the gifts they received for Madeleine and wanted to pass them on to other little boys and girls who need them more. Christmas will be heartbreaking for them this year. But at least they know the gifts have gone to a good home”
Happy days. And the toys “all have a label with Madeleine’s picture”. Which should give the little uns happy dreams. “Tell us about the little girl, Miss…”
TONY Parsons: “There is somthing in the story of Madeleine McCann that has touched the heart of the world, and yet the world has let the little girl down”. Shame on you. The Parsons Knows
“Depsite all the gluttony and materialism, the story of Christmas remains the story of a child and innocence somehow surviving in a wicked world. Jesus will survive the murderous wrath of Herod, Scrooge will find pity in his heart for Tiny Tim and the boy will live. And Madeleine will go home to her family”
Religion, fiction and an apparent crime, in which the parents of the Little Baby Madeleine are named suspects. How Parsons linked them is a miracle. A child is missing - such is the raw reality.
Here endeth the Parsons Lesson…
DAILY EXPRESS: “CASE AGAINST THE MCCANNS HIT BY DNA TEST DOUBTS”
“The case against Kate and Gerry McCann has been dealt a severe blow by doubts over controversial DNA techniques… But DNA was gathered and analysed using the techniques that led to the collapse of the Omagh bomb trial last week”
Low Copy Number DNA analysis – was developed by the UK’s Forensic Science Service. “It allows investigators to analyse tiny samples of evidence, sometimes many times smaller than a grain of sand. Scientists are able to produce the all-important genetic fingerprint from tiny samples by growing the DNA until it is large enough to test fully”
THE STAR: “’MADDIE TAKEN IN DAD’S TENNIS BAG’”
Gerry McCann was “reportedly seen with the holdall as he took up to three tennis lessons a day on the ill-fated holiday…But the blue sports bag has been lost, according to a shock new TV special on the mystery that is gripping the world”
A new TV investigation and a new piece of crucial evidence. Curious…
“According to The Madeleine McCann Mystery – a Sky News special on tonight at 7.30 – the bag is vital to the investigation”
According to Clarence Mitchell, Gerry McCann’s spokesman: “Gerry’s baffled. He’s never owned such a bag. There simply is no missing bag. They are entirely innocent”
Look out for Anorak TV’s Madeleine And The Dragon soon…
THE SUN: “Maddie: Mystery of ‘lost’ bag”
So says the Sun, owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Sky
“A missing blue tennis bag could hold the key to Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, a TV documentary will claim tonight. The bag — big enough to carry a small child — belonged to Maddie’s dad Gerry, the programme says. It is claimed Portuguese cops have been hunting for the holdall, which disappeared at the same time as the four-year-old girl. The bag emerges as a potentially vital new clue in a Sky News investigation entitled The Madeleine McCann Mystery”
It’s better than Only Fools And Horses. And Cleudo. Play along at home…
“Yet, bizarrely, the McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell yesterday denied it existed — saying Gerry did not own such a bag and never had done”
And former detective Tony Rogers, “one of Britain’s most experienced police officers, will be seen saying: ‘If it’s a bag of a size that could be taking away from the flat a child, that would be of great interest to the investigating officer’”
So long as Gerry McCann removes the balls- tennis balls – from it first. But if Gerry did it…?
“Tonight’s documentary also claims Portuguese detectives have failed to find and quiz a British paedophile with links to the Algarve. He was among 52 British sex offenders with similar connections whose details were given to police by UK cops”
Not Gerry McCann, then, but a PAEDO! Two pieces of sensation in the Sky TV show. Stay tuned
THE TIMES: “Paedophile Briton linked to Madeleine”
The Times has seen the Sky TV show. The Times is owned by, Rupert Murdoch. The competition for viewing figures at Christmas is intense
The paedo. And the blue bag…
DAILY MAIL: “Hunt for Gerry’s missing tennis bag which ‘could have been used to carry Madeleine away’”
Tony Rogers, “who reviews unsolved cases for British police and worked on the Soham investigation”, uses his experience and media contacts to say that the bag might be important
Says Clarence Mitchell: “As far as Kate and Gerry are concerned, there is no missing tennis bag. They came back from holiday with everything except of course, tragically, Madeleine.”
“British paedophile ‘with links to Portugal’ suspected of abducting Madeleine” – A source tells Sky: “They (Portuguese police) were given the names of 52 sex offenders and they’ve worked very hard to find them and rule them out as suspects. There is still one man they are concerned about”
So important is he that we do not know his name nor what he looks like. Unless he is the man Jane Tanner saw. And this from the Sun’s stable, the paper that which criticised the Portuguese police for their efit and not telling the media every detail of their investigation…
DORSET ECHO: “Toddler, 3, walked home from nursery”
Sarah Cracknell, from Somerford dropped little Finley off at the Explorers Children’s Centre in Draper Road at noon while she attended a PTA lunch next door at Somerford Primary School. Says mum: “I went through half an hour of what Madeleine McCann’s parents must be going through 24 hours a day”
Sarah was not accused of killing her child. Neither was Beverly Fleetham
Madeleine McCann – the news so far
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February 21st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
It would be great if this wee girl is found alive and in good health, but, to be honest i think that she is dead, maybe not by the parents hands, but by their neglect.
I ask you if this had been a one parent female in a council estate, leaving the kids for 1/2 hour shall be say, and one goes missing from bed.
Police, Social Services to take the other kids into care, she would be prosicuted for neglect and more, it may make the papers somewhere, but it would not be in for weeks and weeks. Sightings all over the world.
If these two parents would come out and say we are so upset, we did wrong, we should hav stayed with the children, it was our fault - we all may have more feelign for thier situation - but he is arrogant and she is strange (maybe its the situation they find themselves in, i dont know).
But to be honest i dont give a dam about these two media seekers - my and my family and friends concern is that this wee girl, aged 3 when taken, by who, to where, is missing and we must have the police find out the truth.
If the McCanns are innocent i really feel for them having lost my daughter to 1/2 hour when she was 3 in a store - the panic!!!!
But if they have disposed of her body - then truely i hope they roast in hell.
From a parent and grandparent who didnt get their own childen easily and who loved and cared for them - with no nights in the pub etc.,
Prayers for Madeleine!!!!
January 9th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
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January 9th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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December 28th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
767 Hideki Says: December 28th, 2007 at 12:25 am
609 PeterO Says: December 27th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
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You have nothing to back up your repeated accusations against posters other than your own twisted perversion of their words. You haven’t exposed anybody other than yourself Hideki, you are a liar, and very probably a troll, who twists and misrepresents other posters words to suit your own agenda.
December 28th, 2007 at 12:25 am
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PeterO Says:
December 27th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
“You have nothing to back up your repeated accusations against posters other than your own twisted perversion of their words. ”
Talk about “repeated” — you have made this ranting unsubstantiated attack on me over and over, pasting it to every possible thread. I backed up my OPINION that you are directing the other pro-McConn posters on this forum.
“You haven’t exposed anybody other than yourself Hideki, you are a liar, and very probably a troll, who twists and misrepresents other posters words to suit your own agenda.”
Even in one post you are being overly redundant, repeating yourself ad nauseum. If that does not sound like Team McCann, what does? It’s positively LUDICROUS, PimperO.
Say hello to Gerry for us, OK?
December 27th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
517 Peter O Says:
December 24th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
510 Ian Says: December 24th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
509 Totje
I take it you are a lover of the holy pair?
Tony is the only one to have shown a bit of mettle and challenged the holy ones, please show him a little more respect.
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Now, how to have disagreement with two posters, both of whom also happen to disagree with each other
While I respect Tony Bennett for having the “mettle” to see through his action against the McCann’s, I am of the opinion that he was potentially interfering with an ongoing criminal investigation by attempting to bring his child neglect action. Best to wait until the investigation is concluded and charges brought, or not, before third parties muddy the waters, in my opinion.
But Totje, I really can’t agree with some of your others suggestions in 509:
Does it matter whether they have refused to answer 1 question, or a 1,000 questions? They are allegedly refusing to answer questions. They and their friends are allegedly un-cooperative to the investigation. This hardly seems the behaviour of parents hell bent on finding their missing daughter?
Arguido/suspect… They are suspects, period. We can argue over the strict definition of the word and its implication. The most generous interpretation I think you you can put on it is that the PJ believe the McCann’s know somewhat more about the events leading up to and following Madeleine’s disappearance than the McCann’s have currently admitted to. Oh yes, and their refusing to answer some questions…
Re child neglect. As I’ve said above, I don’t believe this should be pursued outside of the current criminal investigation. That said, the McCann’s have never attempted to deny suggestions that they left their children alone whilst they dined on successive evenings. Rather, they seem quite happy for this accusation to be in the public domain if only because it helps make their child minding arrangements on the evening of May 3rd appear to be their “normal routine”, in my opinion. In fact, we know nothing about their child minding arrangements on evenings prior to May 3rd, rather we have to take the McCann’s word that whatever it was, it was “normal”.
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Peter O, as you know I like your posts! You know how to pinpoint things!
Yes, not answering the questions does look suspicious. On the other hand if I remember correct [and the papers quoted the lawyer correct] Gerry answered all questions and Kate didn’t. We don’t know what and/or what kind of questions were asked and not answered. The police may ask arguido’s direct accusatory questions, which would not be legal otherwise. The lawyer was present, so it’s possible he told her not to answer some questions? I was merely stipulating the point that over here within seconds rumours become facts and 1 question [or 10 or 20] become 200 or more. Let’s try to stick to the facts as far as that’s possible [not necessary while theorising].
Re arguido. They were made arguido. Mr Murat asked to be named arguido [! Why if he’s got nothing to hide?]. Arguido’s have more rights to protect them then witnesses. I agree with you that it looks like or it’s likely they [T9} know something they’re not telling. Not sure if they didn’t tell the PJ. On the other hand in case they didn’t trust Amaral or didn’t trust him any more, I can imagine they wouldn’t tell him everything they know. Or if he twisted and turned their words as Hideki does yours and other posters words …….
? Stupid, nevertheless human. I do hope they’ve become wiser since Rebelo took over!
Re Tony Bennet. As I’ve stated several times, I appreciated his efforts although I thought the timing wrong. When the investigation is over, case closed, noone accused, THEN it’s the time to have a go for it. OR when someone else then the parents is caught and convicted. WE might agree it’s neglect, but it’s up to a court to decide whether its really neglect according to the law and what their punishment should be.
And now I still don’t know how the fund for prosecuting the parents for neglect is doing
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December 27th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
I promised I wasn’t running and would be back to answer. So here I go!
516 Tony Bennett Says:
509 Totje: “He [T Bennett] is spreading rumours, and unfounded accusations…”
REPLY TB: Talking of ’spreading rumours and unfounded accusations’:
TB: 1. There was an abductor
REPLY : how do you know this is a rumour? Any real proof of that if even the PJ can’t/doesn’t exclude it from the investigation?
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TB: 2. The abductor was a paedophile
REPLY: also suggested by the police. And IF there was an abduction the most probable explanation.
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TB: 3. The abductor was 5′ 7″
REPLY: why not? Any proof s/he wasn’t? The witness stated it, and it’s not proven [yet] to be wrong.
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TB: 4. The abductor hid behind the bedroom door then opened the windows and shutters and climbed through the window
REPLY: we don’t know, nor can we proof this is not correct. The abductor [IF any] could also have passed the child through the window. And btw it was guessing/speculating in hindsight and even suggested by the police [about the hiding].
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TB: 5. The Portuguese police are incompetent and corrupt (see also approved pro-McCann prayer for 3rd December)
REPLY: yes in every country’s police [and other organisations] force will be a few rotten apples. Nevertheless this prayer and the ‘approval’ is imo nonsense.
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TB: 6. We were checking the children every half-hour
REPLY: maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. I guess the cops know this by now [eyewitnesses/cctv etc.]
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TB: 7. The Portuguese police have deliberately framed us
REPLY: link please? Wasn’t it a mother, sister or a journalist who suggested it? They might feel it like that, on the other hand it might be true? We can’t be sure now, can we? I’m sure it’s best to leave it to Rebelo to check everything, even his collegues.
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TB: 8. Portugal is crawling with paedophiles
REPLY: of course, so is Gambia, Thailand, the UK, Germany, The Netherlands, the USA etc. They’re everywhere, some even disguised as tourists!
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TB: 9. Madeleine is probably in Portugal/Spain/Moroocco/North Africa
REPLY: sightings!!!! Some or all might be right, or wrong! And that is normal in such cases!
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TB: 10. Metodo 3 are not doing their job properly
REPLY: it looks like that. On the other hand, who knows what’s going on behind the screens?
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TB: 11. The PJ have not searched for Madeleine properly
REPLY: did they find her?
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12. TO BE CONTINUED
REPLY: please do go on, this is easy and fun!
December 27th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
763 Hideki Says: December 27th, 2007 at 7:20 am
749 June Says: December 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am
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Hideki, you are a liar, and very probably a troll, who twists and misrepresents other posters words to suit your own agenda.
December 27th, 2007 at 7:20 am
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June Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am
“Another thing, the barn. What became of that is anyone’s guess but the police know and are slowly building their case. ”
Remember, it was two locations they found — a shallow hole dug in the ground AND a well or mine shaft.
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Peter O Says:
“Hideki… You are a liar who twist other posters words to suit your own “narrow” agenda”
Whatever you say, Pimpo. But I QUOTED your posts in
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Hideki Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 9:33 am
No need to twist your already-contorted defense of child neglect.
December 26th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
758 Hideki Says: December 26th, 2007 at 9:33 am
PeterO Joins Chenier as Champion Pro-McScam Liars
Pimp and Ho — what a pair!
688 Peter O
Hideki: “PeterO once had a nifty potential defence for Gerry: maybe Madeleine was already dead, and if so Gerry could not have been negligent of her!”
Peter O lies:
“Peter O said no such thing. More invented drivel by Hideki.”
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Hideki… You are a liar who twist other posters words to suit your own “narrow” agenda
You are as likely to be a paid pro-McCann poster as anyone else in here.
The McCann’s have taken legal advice and, if their public pronouncements are to be believed, are unlikely ever to be charged with “child neglect”. However, people like yourself keep raising this issue.
Why would you do that?
Perhaps you are blinded by your hatred of the McCann’s and are unable to comprehend that bizarre and unacceptable as their child minding arrangements are, they may sadly not fall foul of any legal “child neglect” laws.
Perhaps on the other hand, you are indeed a paid pro-McCann poster and your job is to keep discussing this issue rather than the possibility that Madeleine was indeed already dead on the evening of May 3rd.
Whichever it may be, you are a liar who is quite prepared to twist other people’s words to suit your own narrow agenda.
December 26th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
758 Hideki
Hideki,
Waste not y0ur breath. It’s good to correct the lies.
But what they seek is to engage you away from analyzing theories involving homicide.
By the way, my neighbor’s pet snake Irma is missing. Shall we call Metodo?
Didn’t they say Madeliene was coming home by Christmas? Perhaps they meant “next” Christmas….
This whole thing with the telephone tips is simply to create diversion, just as your attackers are doing here. The tel tip thing is simply a created ruse to enable Team McCann to complain that the PJ are just focusing on the McCanns and that bloody blue bag, and just ignoring all the…the…evidence! No wonder they haven’t found Madeleine yet! THey need to track down and interview some 350-plus “callers!” with “tips!”
Just a ruse.
Blue bag, blue bag…..Focus on that.
December 26th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Ade, Ian, Stevo, Brandon flours & all,
Happy Holidays! I’ve been away a bit.
PErhaps while Metodo continues its Madeleine retrieval, it could locate that missing blue bag as well. I bet the PJ don’t have it. But they may certainly have a pic of it. OR perhaps the tennis instructor GM used has a really strong, unshakeable memory of it.
Madeleine was certainly small enough to fit inside it.
Transport to the acid vat.
December 26th, 2007 at 9:35 am
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December 26th, 2007 at 9:04 am
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I wouldn’t trust Metodo 3 to look for my lost cat !! also - I thought there was this “hotline” the McCrims had set up for calls ? where was this actually routed to ?
December 26th, 2007 at 9:33 am
PeterO Joins Chenier as Champion Pro-McScam Liars
Pimp and Ho — what a pair!
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Peter O
Hideki: “PeterO once had a nifty potential defence for Gerry: maybe Madeleine was already dead, and if so Gerry could not have been negligent of her!”
Peter O lies:
“Peter O said no such thing. More invented drivel by Hideki.”
Why don’t you refer to yourself as “I”, PeterO? Trying to make it look like someone else is defending you? LOL. Yes, you DID write that drivel — I did not invent it. Stop your lying denial. Here it is:
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Peter O
Peter: “Madeleine can only have disappeared whilst being neglected by her parents if indeed she was abducted. You can’t have it both ways.”
I reponded: Your logic is exceedingly deficient, apparently due to your focus on your favorite specific scenarios. No abduction? Still, the McCanns neglect could have led to an intruder/paedophile killing the girl. Their neglect could have led to the girl’s death due to sudden allergic reaction. Their neglect could have led to a sedated girl having a fatal fall while wandering in a delirium.
Peter: “If they are directly responsible for Madeleine death then, certainly on May 3rd, she wasn’t neglected because in all probability she was already ‘missing’.”"
There it is, PeterO. You said it. If they killed Madeleine, then they could not have neglected her, because she was already gone. Brilliant piece of DRIVEL, PeterO. I could not even invent such crap if I tried.
I responded: There you go again, using the typical pro-McCon strategy of covertly insisting that if others claim Madeleine is dead, then they must be claiming that the McCanns are “directly responsible” by which you clearly mean some direct action (such as hitting her). I have just pointed out that an intruder could have killed her, she could have died by allergic reaction (which can happen hours or days after an injection), or she could have had a fatal fall after waking up. In all of these cases the McCanns’ neglect is what leads to the girl’s death.
In effect, you are arguing that IF THE MCCANNS KILLED THE GIRL AND LIED ABOUT THEIR CHILD NEGLECT, THEN THAT PARTICLUAR NEGLECT COULD NOT HAVE PLAYED A ROLE IN HER DEATH.
Peter: “If you have satisfied yourself that my arguments are “superficial” then I’m happy for you.”
If you are happy with your foolish argument, good for you. Sorry, I can’t think of any other word better than “superficial” (or “pro-McCann”) to describe the reasoning you employ to “argue” that the McCanns should not be prosecuted for neglect.
You are only referring to ONE of many possible death scenarios — that the girl died prior to the Tapas drinking/game session by Kate’s hand (or Gerry’s) and that the parents were LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING, including their neglect, their meager checking, etc. Yes, I grant you that IN THIS CASE, the neglect initially falsely admitted would have been a lie, and so could not have been responsible for the death…
…as I pointed out, there are other ways that the girl could have died while being neglected — intruder, sedative reaction, fatal fall while wandering, to name just 3 of them.
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Well, PeterO, there you have it, your stupendous “argument”:
If the McCanns killed Madeleine, then they could not have neglected her. (Fantastic premise! LOL)
Suppose: they neglected her.
Therefore she is not dead, and was abducted.
(Huh?)
That apparently was the only crap you could dredge up to support your ridiculous contention that the McCanns would benefit from being prosecuted for child neglect. I’m not sure why I even wasted my time dissecting such shite.
And it’s no wonder you now want to lie , and falsely claim I am INVENTING THIS DRIVEL, when it all came out of your own pro-McConn delusory logic, into your own ludicrous post.
Happy pimping, PeterO!
December 26th, 2007 at 9:04 am
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December 26th, 2007 at 8:54 am
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Daisy Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 8:29 am
Apparently, the Christmas appeal by the McCanns generated more than 200 calls, which could have new leads. Let’s hope!
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Don’t you just have to be a little bit sceptical of ” new leads” after all this time ? Anyone who suddenly comes up with “new sightings” after 8 months must be terminally inattentive not to have seen and taken notice of, everything that has gone before, including all the “heart-rending” pleas by K. McCrim et al to date…so why now ??
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Sometimes people don’t remember details straight away, or someone has decided to come forward after not wanting to be involved in anything in the beginning. Who knows!
The only thing that worries me is that these calls apparently went to Metodo3. Are they telling the truth about the actual number of calls they received? Maybe I’m wrong and the calls went to crimestoppers/police.
December 26th, 2007 at 8:54 am
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Daisy Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 8:29 am
Apparently, the Christmas appeal by the McCanns generated more than 200 calls, which could have new leads. Let’s hope!
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Don’t you just have to be a little bit sceptical of ” new leads” after all this time ? Anyone who suddenly comes up with “new sightings” after 8 months must be terminally inattentive not to have seen and taken notice of, everything that has gone before, including all the “heart-rending” pleas by K. McCrim et al to date…so why now ??
December 26th, 2007 at 8:37 am
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lilith Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 12:14 am
EDIT
Anyone seen Cuddlecat lately?
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There is Cuddle Cat (in her handbag) (Christmas Eve)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article619725.ece
There is NO Botox in that face!
December 26th, 2007 at 8:29 am
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Ann Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 6:30 am
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June Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am
ok, all let’s think about that blue bag. When we say, blue, what comes to mind is sky and or a soft BLUE…but we are saying blue and they are showing a DARK blue bag. To my mind the only way to get a child into a bag of that size would be to dismember the body. Is that everyone else’s gross thinking or what? I can’t see a child of that size being stuffed into a tennis bag except in pieces. I am trying to be realistic here…of course it has been done.
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Red Herrings comes to mind, I would like you all to go out and purchase a sports bag, colour doesn’t matter, can be blue if you insist in the spirit of correctness, then stuff a four year old in it and try to carry it …
When you return from the osteopath, and your spine has been re-arranged, contemplate the possibilities of that bag being a) around - Gerry says he never had one, the tennis coaches say he never had one and b) being used for that purpose .
I had a break from here yesterday but find on my return, we are all just mulling over the same old things and nothing new has happened, which is a shame because I think we all want closure if only to find out “Who-dunnit? ” ……………….
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I agree with you regarding the bag! My feeling is that we are being fed a lot of “rubbish”, either by the Media or the Police, as a distraction from what really might be happening behind the scenes!
Apparently, the Christmas appeal by the McCanns generated more than 200 calls, which could have new leads. Let’s hope!
December 26th, 2007 at 6:30 am
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June Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am
ok, all let’s think about that blue bag. When we say, blue, what comes to mind is sky and or a soft BLUE…but we are saying blue and they are showing a DARK blue bag. To my mind the only way to get a child into a bag of that size would be to dismember the body. Is that everyone else’s gross thinking or what? I can’t see a child of that size being stuffed into a tennis bag except in pieces. I am trying to be realistic here…of course it has been done.
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Red Herrings comes to mind, I would like you all to go out and purchase a sports bag, colour doesn’t matter, can be blue if you insist in the spirit of correctness, then stuff a four year old in it and try to carry it …
When you return from the osteopath, and your spine has been re-arranged, contemplate the possibilities of that bag being a) around - Gerry says he never had one, the tennis coaches say he never had one and b) being used for that purpose .
I had a break from here yesterday but find on my return, we are all just mulling over the same old things and nothing new has happened, which is a shame because I think we all want closure if only to find out “Who-dunnit? ” ……………….
December 26th, 2007 at 3:38 am
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Tinsel Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 3:14 am
What I’ve been thinking is that since the kids’ crying was reported to management, Kate could have been made very angry about that.
Control freaks, though they mean to be model mothers, can become the family psycho if their kids embarrass them publically.
I’ve seen a family member that had a similar reaction to public embarrassment.
The embarrassment could have been the catalyst for the accidental death.
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Being a parent is the hardest job on Earth! Trying to be a GOOD parent is even harder. I don’t think there is a parent in the World who has not lost control at some stage or another, either by yelling or smacking their kids. Not good, I know, but it does happen. BUT, that is far from being a “killer”, accidentally or not. We are not talking about a young baby, which could be injured by shaking (or the like) very easily. We are talking about an almost 4 y.o. child and it would take a lot of force to do something to that child to actually kill her. Most kids that die at the hands of their parents, show sign of physical abuse which can be seen by teachers, friends, other relatives, etc. There doesn’t seem to be a history of physical abuse in this case. Emotional abuse by abandonment? YES!!
Much has been said about the star reward system that they allegedly used with Maddie. Many parents use “reward systems” (recommended by many child experts!) to teach or correct certain behaviours and that doesn’t mean anything either.
The ONE thing that they did wrong was to leave young kids unattended. But it is a far cry from saying that they actually are the ones directly responsible for her disappearance (whatever that may mean?). They are responsible for leaving them alone, though.
December 26th, 2007 at 3:14 am
What I’ve been thinking is that since the kids’ crying was reported to management, Kate could have been made very angry about that.
Control freaks, though they mean to be model mothers, can become the family psycho if their kids embarrass them publically.
I’ve seen a family member that had a similar reaction to public embarrassment.
The embarrassment could have been the catalyst for the accidental death.
December 26th, 2007 at 1:36 am
669 Chatelaine
Checked out Stevo’s site on Diane Webster. Don’t know how old the photo is but she certainly does’nt look like an old lady in it - quite attractive and looks middle aged. Some of the posters here made it sound like she was ready for a zimmer frame!
Why do we get told so little about these people considering how high profile this case is?
December 26th, 2007 at 1:07 am
ok, all let’s think about that blue bag. When we say, blue, what comes to mind is sky and or a soft BLUE…but we are saying blue and they are showing a DARK blue bag. To my mind the only way to get a child into a bag of that size would be to dismember the body. Is that everyone else’s gross thinking or what? I can’t see a child of that size being stuffed into a tennis bag except in pieces. I am trying to be realistic here…of course it has been done.
The issue of the bag is interesting. IF the photos show he had the bag and someone most likely at the tennis courts said, or have said, and I’m sure this has been investigated…that he had the bag, yet he DENIES having the bag…it gets you to wondering why he is lying.
Another thing, the barn. What became of that is anyone’s guess but the police know and are slowly building their case. Perhaps we will hear from the police soon.
I think the ones who are constantly trying to foist their story of abduction onto the world, will be sadly and rudely awakened one of these days. And everybody loses, especially the precious child, who is already lost.
I will say that it must have been a horrible horrible accident involving the mother
for the body to be concealed and then hidden and taken away in such a manner…I stick to my “other child” theory…or perhaps accidental at the hands of the mom…at any rate, something will break and soon. This case will be solved. People need to be packing their overnight bags, is what I think…for their stays in the slammer!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:47 am
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chenier Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 12:44 am
the offspring tells me that a transient ischaemic attack is more to do with neurology than cardiology, referring to something more akin to a stroke than a heart attack…
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Yes, indeed and a serious warning to be listened to as a forbode to se a stroke …
Good night Chenier & offspring!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:45 am
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Mark Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 12:23 am
742 Chatelaine
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Where are you based, Mark?
So “funny” to “correspond” with people you don’t know, neither where they are [hence a 7/7 24/24 correspondence here...]
December 26th, 2007 at 12:44 am
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Gloria Smudd Says:
December 25th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
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Gloria,
the offspring tells me that a transient ischaemic attack is more to do with neurology than cardiology, referring to something more akin to a stroke than a heart attack…
Happy Second Day of Christmas!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:23 am
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Indeed. A sad topic but nice to correspond.
M
December 26th, 2007 at 12:20 am
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lilith Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 12:14 am
Cuddlecat did not behave well at all last night….yelling, scared in the dark alone …kate HAS to to decide what his faith will be..
Anyone seen Cuddlecat lately?
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Lilith, thanks for the pictures.
Have you noticed that sometimes she has a black-ish patch above her eyebrow? Doesn’t mean anything, but still…
Wishing you a good night. And hope to see/read you tomorrow
December 26th, 2007 at 12:14 am
http://cache1.gettyimages.com/xc/74205366.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1935A6DEC864C2BC5D93DC312D01D7A7DE4
Cuddlecat did not behave well at all last night….yelling, scared in the dark alone …kate HAS to to decide what his faith will be..
Anyone seen Cuddlecat lately?
December 26th, 2007 at 12:12 am
A very good night to all. It’s been a pleasure!
If only our reason to blog would be a different one …
Let’s hope for the truth.. SOON
[and then continue about art, music, family, dogs, food, ... life ...?]
December 26th, 2007 at 12:07 am
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Mark Says:
December 26th, 2007 at 12:01 am
681 Chatelaine
682 Gloria
Thank you. We will see what 2008 brings.
Kids are stuffed full of food and in bed. Dog sleeping with turkey-bloated stomach. Ex wife also happy and liked her present. Me? enjoying a bottle of Lussac St. Emilion bordeaux.
Happy Xmas to all. x
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Lussac St. Emilion bordeaux.
Really?
I had 96 bottles delivered yesterday for my cellar!
I’ll think of you, when I open another one