Kindly explain how Joe Public and “justice seekers” have jeopardised the chances of this case ever coming to court (if that is what you meant by your previous post)?

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Read my posts elsewhere but the feeling throughout Portugal now is that the government should stop spending money on this case , I wanted to see justice and I am disgusted that people in the UK did not get behind the PJ.

A case that no longer matters to Portugal as the outcome whatever as far as Portoguese people are concerned (mostly) is that The McCanns were guilty anyway of child neglect , The PJ are respected for thier stance on the McCanns neglecting thier children .
As far as the majority of Portugal is concerned (at least what Ive heard and seen in The Algarve) there is no point in persuing this for a country that has shown themselves to be both racist and xenophobic towards them.

So to answer your question a lot of “justice Seekers” here and UK Joe Public chose to believe the UK tabloids and condemn the PJ as useless and wasting time / missing evidence / fat alchoholics who flick ill gotten cuban cigar ash on crime scenes etc etc etc.

This did not go unnoticed by Portugal , did you really expect it to be ! and why should they help bring justice about at internal cost / man hours when even the UK people that said they wanted justice / charges were discussing openly how bad PJ were instead of supporting the only people that were actually doing something.
Once the PJ said that evidence proved Maddie to be dead but they would abide by thier countries law and not release details instead of people in the UK respecting this and awaiting the final outcome they were once again called stupid and sloaths.
Portugal investigaters could not win and if this xenophobia and racism carried on it would just have damaged them more .

For Portugal it is now really just an external matter , the McCanns left and a new holiday season will start in 2008 , the McCanns will remain under suspician .
The justice seekers will still want to see justice when the only people able to bring about justice will have wiped thier hands of this sorry saga due to the hatred towards them

The paradox is that those that wanted charges should have got behind the PJ instead they didnt they ridiculed them effectively alienating the only people that were concerned in bringing about a trial.

The real stinger in the tail is that without charges or a trial the UK may never know the true details of “any evidence” for 15 years .
Most people in The Algarve that have been following have seen the xenophobia from these pages and elsewhere from supposedly even the people who WANT to see justice and now feel they cannot win.
No point in throwing any more Portugal taxes at a UK problem when Portugal is seen as low life by the UK its winding down and without the PJ there really is no case .

Should have got behind PJ and also discussed the real issues here rather than stupid conspiracy ideas but I feel its too late now , most Portuguese feel betrayed by the UK people.

Like jon benet ramsey without the PJ the UK will still be saying did they didnt they in 15 years time

January 6th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
There are no fake photo’s, there are no pending charges, there is no conclusive evidence, but someone or some people know what transpired that night, the question is whom. I remember an old saying if three people no something it is not a secret, if this is a conspiracy of silence it is the greatest ever, even better than Omerta. So for me no conspiracy, it might help if the Police would make up their mind, what sort of crime has been committed, personally I don’t think they have a clue.
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Poor Sledge, you should try Adult Literacy classes instead of straining your poor brain wondering what evidence the Police might have to surprise you!

January 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
http://www.mccannfiles.com

Slegehammer’s latest tactic appears to be an attempt to bore bloggers into submission. Wasted effort, Sledge, we merely scroll past your inconsistent ramblings.

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As I didn’t see your post until the next day, I don’t know whether you will see this reply on an old forum. (At this point my post disappeared, but reappeared printed as an incomplete post, with the information that it was in moderation!).

I would be amused, but for the fact that earlier today I tried to post my views on a question asked by Anorak: Is it wrong to view child pornography? I thought I had made by views very clear in an unambiguous and, to me, inoffensive way, by find these comments also ‘Await Moderation’. If I should find my opinions on the subject are deemed unacceptable, I should then become seriously worried about the powers of the Mods. Until then I have found them to be reasonable, and hope that will continue to be the case.

I agree the number of pro-McCanners has dramatically increased, and their tactics are to make crass attemtps at being subtle by diverting discussion off topic, being ridiculously sentimental or rude, aggresive and even martyr like! As you say, altogether more insidious.

It’s easy to ignore the rude or aggressive infiltrators as how can one take issue with those for whom one has no respect? As for the others, it give the antis an opportunity to reiterate some of the more startling truths, which the pros hope will be buried and forgotten over the course of time, if they can provide sufficient diversions. It seems they now want to extend their mischief onto forums in France and Portugal! I don’t think bloggers in general are as disingenuous as they would hope.

I have read most postings since I joined the Anorak forum, and I hadn’t perceived any pattern of hostility between you and Will. He always struck me as a very laid back poster and in no way vindictive. We all have our own perceptions but I do think it’s unwise to puruse pointless disputes indefinitely as that’s what drives away the more astute posters. I hope you will remain on the forum and the more interesting posters will continue to contribute.

I may make the attemtp to copy this over to the most recent forum, if it allows me to do so and I don’t need to go into moderation again!

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As I didn’t see your post until the next day, I don’t know whether you will see this reply on an old foru

915 chenier

You wrote: “Doctors are particularly vulnerable on the negligent abuse of children.”

But they are WAY more vulnerable on the INTENTIONAL abuse of children.

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Well, that’s pretty obvious.

I was, however, citing the judgement of Bingham about the right of a professional body to suspend or strike off the register someone who has failed to meet professional standards.

I do suggest that you try reading the judgement…

No one knows what happened - obviously.

But if there’s a mystery, everyone is a suspect.

If the McCanns killed Madeleine accidentally then there would be 2 motivations for a cover-up, to save their careers or to save themselves from looking like bad parents (and we know they can’t stand to be perceived as bad parents).

Murat might have done it.

Some other person might have done it.

I never sleep.

BUT 1. Why, if either of them accidentally killed her would they need to do such a major cover up? I could understand this if it was a straight out murder.

2. Do you think the reported sightings of a child being carried from the vacinity of Mccanns apartment are made up?

3. Theres many reported sightings of Murat in the area, are these sightings made up to? Now theres a friend who admitted he lied in Murats defence!

4. Why have the police not made an arrest after 8 mths? They obviously dont have proof!

5. Why after 8 mths would the Mccanns bother to spend more of the fund money, (that they are supposedly scamming), to start new campaigns, when they could have got away with letting things die down by now?

These are just a few of the many questions that as a pro Mccann, I would like to hear straight out answers to. It seems the Mccanns are just doing everything they can to find out what happened to their daughter or where she might be, and please no abusive replies.

Administrator:: All relevant and cogent questions Pam but I will issue a warning here. Full replies to these questions may lay the respondent open to criminal libel charges. If you are to reply choose your phrasing very carefully.-agw

January 7th, 2008 at 3:29 am
McCs not moving out of their house just yet but as things are hotting up there is mucho to-ing and fro-ing, Not many telephone calls going in and out the house but sh*t-loads of paperwork being taken to the house and being read, re-read, re-read and ‘changed’ and ‘changed’ back and ultimately certain lawyers will not be putting their reputations on the line.

Devon is a place that we will hear more about in the near future.

Does anybody know how many burials, cremationas took place around the time of the alleged abduction. I cannot personally find this out without leaving fingerprints. Thanks.

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Coco, they certainly can’t be planning on fleeing the country that is for certain. I’m quite certain with the ‘decision day’ nearing the lawyers are drawing up papers to cover all bases in all aspects just in case of this or that (if you know what I mean) and sending them for review and comments, back to the lawyers with comments, lawyers resending revised ones back to them. I shudder to think of the midnight oil being burnt the next days or weeks by lawyers and their staff. I can only imagine the legal fees being racked up right now!

Do you think I’d trust using any telephone right now - guilty or innocent? I wouldn’t even trust a carrier pidgeon to fly messages back and forth safely!

As the old saying goes ‘it isn’t over until the fat woman sings’ and I’m not real sure she is standing behind the curtains waiting to go on stage just yet.

News just in via Correio da Manhã

Final analysis of blood in both the hire car and the McScamm’s apartment now confirmed as Madeleine’s, with nil scope for confusion between the genetic profiles of Madeleine and her twin siblings….

So is there any indication the PJ is any closer to arresting the McCs??? I think I’ll go away for another whole week and hope something happens.

Good evening, Karen, but shouldn’t you go get some SLEEP??