Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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January 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
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val Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
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Ah yes; a ‘heartfelt plea’ for us, as opposed to him, to keep searching.
Admittedly he never appears to have done much searching in the first place…
January 12th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
223 Daisy - True, and we can agree to differ which is something else too!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Afternoon all,
Kate”s Dad has reportedly made a “heartfelt plea” for the public to keep searching for
Madeleine. If you talk to people not involved like us , most are fed up with the case and feel
Madeleine is no longer alive and the search should be abandoned. It is clear that the Press too
are less supportive of the McCanns and the latest request from the PJ to extend the secrecy
law for another three months will postpone the outcome even further. It is very doubtful IMO that the public will continue to make donations to the Fund so the McCanns would
improve their image if they abandoned the search and gave the remainder of the Fund to
an existing Missing Children Fund.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
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man on a hill Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
204 Daisy
Fair enough, i shall leave you to your reality tunnel. And for the record i find your posts suspicious.
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Man on a hill,
If you are implying that I’m a “paid” poster, let me assure you that I’m not. I have no connection to the McCann Team etc. (I’m in Australia, by the way and Mods and Admin can confirm that by looking at my email address and my ISP provider).
January 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
163
Peter O
Only just spotted this - amazing co-incidence
January 12th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
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Miss Match Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Noseycow - how is the non- smoking going? Huge admiration for you and am sending big cyber support. Now, if only I could be as strong myself, but ciggies are so cheap here in Italy…….
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Miss Match,
At least we have one thing in common: ciggies!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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Rosemary Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:58 am
192
Chenier
I was thinking of a bigger window (of opportunity)
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A few weeks back on the mirror forum a poster actually put up a thread asking what the McCanns could say which would make people believe that they felt genuine remorse at leaving their children.
This resulted in a great deal of unseemly mirth, since the poster in question had long ago been fingered as a probably paid pro.
I have no doubt that there is a constantly shifting attempt by Team McCann to try and get people back on board.
Not least because there looks to be a serious hole in the Fund.
The Mail story is presumably intended to do 2 things:
convince people there really was an abduction and only the PJ could be so stupid as to think otherwise, and
make people feel sorry for them.
On the other hand, I don’t see why the Fund hasn’t paid for the reservoir to be searched.
After all, it is supposed to be the ‘Find Madeleine Fund’…
January 12th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
Miss match -
will have to try again next week - but will get there eventually (hopefully) 
stay on fire!
bye
January 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Noseycow - how is the non- smoking going? Huge admiration for you and am sending big cyber support. Now, if only I could be as strong myself, but ciggies are so cheap here in Italy…….
January 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
anyway got to go now - odd socks are calling
happy sleuthing all
January 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
noseycow
I have just had a mars duo and coke
perfect for hangovers
January 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
204 Daisy
Fair enough, i shall leave you to your reality tunnel. And for the record i find your posts suspicious.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Ian - perhaps your wife should meet my hubby - he too huffing and puffing lol
brandon - i had a bacon & fried egg butty earlier - umm yummy
January 12th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
It’s a lovely day - I’m off too!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
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chenier
Phew! At last!
Evidence is the parties version of the facts. xxx have a nice day!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
any one want to fill me in only got about 10 mins
January 12th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Chenier
Thanks for the debate! Got the old thinking muscles going and will keep an eye out for judges making comments on basic principles, bless ‘em.
Bye all, have to go have a life (wife huffing and puffing!).
xxx
January 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
205
Miss Match
Only if you believe in the timelines.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
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Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:56 am
179 chenier Says: January 12th, 2008 at 11:46 am
154 Ian Says: January 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
…Its written down in my course notes! Evidence is the legal version of the facts (says the course book!) proof is the legal version of truth.
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You can cite as many cases as you like, but you will never find one which supports your course book’s claim that ‘Evidence is the legal version of the facts’…
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Layman’s interpretation…… so apologies if the terminology is incorrect, it’s the principle I’m interested in..
In a “simple” case, both sides in the legal argument surely present “evidence”. Both sides then seek to discredit that evidence or place alternate interpretations on the other parties “evidence”?
Now, if a dozen worthy witnesses appear and say they saw “A” shoot “B” in broad daylight there may in fact be not much to discuss?
On the other hand… If an expert witness says this DNA implies this…. You can guarantee the other side are going to produce their own expert witness to discredit, place doubt or reinterpret that “evidence”?
Ergo, “evidence” isn’t always “fact”?
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Yes.
In a criminal case in England and Wales the jury is arbiter of fact.
Evidence is presented to the Court, and the Judge will direct the jury as to the law. But the jury decides issues of fact.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
205 Miss match
Yep! Vital, nails them, in my opinion.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
194 Daisy
You did - you say that the abductor was where Tanner would have been - ergo Tanner wasnt there. She said she was.
She lied.
All the rest too, windows and doors open - all lies according to your scenario. You cant have lies without liars! Who was telling the stories of shutters etc? It was the T9.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
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Ade Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
194 daiy
abduction by aliens is a possibility too
not at all likely but still “possible”
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January 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Someone asked about sunglasses. They’re good for redeye, as photographers are aware.
January 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Rosemary - doesn’t Tanner’s sighting of bundleman place a time on the actual ‘abduction’, thus ruling out any changing of the timelines?
January 12th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
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man on a hill Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 11:56 am
176 Daisy
“In my opinion, they have told many, many lies….”
When looking for the guilty party in a case like this i would have thought the people who lie might be first in the line up. I am interested in why you want them to be innocent Daisy. It’s not as if you are giving any serious alternative abduction theories, just a factor X argument, just like the third way (if you remember him). That gets boring after a while. It makes me wonder if you really want the ‘unknown’ to be true simply so you never have to make that apology you promised (not that i really care).
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Man on a hill,
I do want justice for Maddie and I do want to know the truth! I do not particularly want the parents to be not guilty nor do I want them to be guilty is they did not harm her and it was indeed a third party involved, i .e. abduction.
If you find my theories boring, then just ignore them. Why do you bother making a comment about them? And as for the apology if I am mistaken, it still stands!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
194 daiy
abduction by aliens is a possibility too
not at all likely but still “possible”
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
200 Sorry about the typos again!
January 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
186 Rosemary Says: January 12th, 2008 at 11:54 am
In the last couple of days has anyone detected some testing of the water to a different version of reality?
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Only during the last “couple of days”? Me thinks they’ve been trying to find something that “fits” the suspected evidence for some while now. The problem is that they, like us. Don’t actually know what evidence, if any, the PJ have. Interesting game of poker being played out me thinks.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:59 am
179 chenier
Its definately not wrong! I have to admire you terrier like need to hang on to your perceptions though.
But whatever you claim, everyone knows that evidence is presented in court by the parties as fact…imagine..’we have evidence m’lord but we are not going to try to use it to prove the guilt of the accused as none of it is fact’.
You make my point for me (regarding the citing of cases). Your citing of a couple of cases didnt prove anything at all, well, it proved one thing, your chosen tactic was to seek to confuse in order to deceive and win an argumant.
I didnt say ‘I can cite thousands of cases’ to show off!
As I said, every time you disagree with me you prove my point, facts are perceptual.
One thing that a lawyer must do in order to be successful, separate the law from reality as they are very different!
January 12th, 2008 at 11:59 am
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Ferdinand
Yes, hugely entertaining.