Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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January 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
343
Matt. Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
331…jo
May well happen if a Trial for Neglect is ever opened.
The so-called letters could be part of their defence as being supportive
of their claims that leaving 3 youngesters unattended so often and for
so long is commonplace among other parents.
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Ah! I must say I havent thought about it in those terms.It makes complete sense.I do wish they are tried for the neglect,INCLUDING the Tapas gits
January 12th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
343
Matt.
Not much of a defence Matt, I wonder how many of them would volunteer to be called as witnesses to support the Mccanns!!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
342 Daisy
…and in not for profit (yet mortgage paying) funds!
Daisy, I dont know why you post here, but I can honestly say I do find your multi pasted posts difficult to read and always ‘odd’ in their logic.
Very similar indeed to Maria. Do you know her?
January 12th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
340
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
319 Daisy
Your truth may not be the same as mine Daisy!
I personally do not believe you are not a pro-McCann faithful.
You are far too quick to jump on anything which looks like it could support abduction - even to the point of accusing the T9 themselves of lying (which you then say you arent doing!).
Your posts are very similar to Maria’s.
Last night we played a game where we pretended to be pro-McCann - there were some wonderful and very believable posts (batman was brilliant!). But none of us could provide any logical argument for abduction and in support of the behaviours of the McCann camp - we started to sound like you a bit!
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Ian,please,be good to Daisy.I dont think she is pro,I dont think she has a “truth” to put forward.I reckon she is trying to be impartial but this is very difficult of course….She does read and does not jump to conclusion blindly like the true-pro.Dont forget,we all doubt or better say,we can all admit it is too big for any of us.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
333 Stickler
With people in the world like that, its no wonder its in such a state!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
331…jo
May well happen if a Trial for Neglect is ever opened.
The so-called letters could be part of their defence as being supportive
of their claims that leaving 3 youngesters unattended so often and for
so long is commonplace among other parents.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
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Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
236 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
230 man on a hill Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
225 Daisy
Edit…
And to answer your last comment, I am not catholic (I’m an atheist), I am not a doctor (I’m an Architect), I am not a child neglector (I’m an excellent mother) and I’m not racist (I have many friends of different races), etc.
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These repeated debates about who someone thinks another party is, or who someone claims to be, are largely pointless and unverifiable on an “anonymous” Internet forum.
You can’t prove any of your assertions about who/what you are any more than you can disprove that I’m not really a one eyed, one legged, transvestite hooker called Petrovia with a penchant for Twiglets whilst on the “job”!
You hold different opinions to others, I don’t agree with them, but hey that our respective prerogatives.
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Ian,
I believe certain things that are anti-McCann and I believe others that you consider pro-McCann. I use my own judgement to select from everything that has been reported just some things that, in my opinion, could be feasible. Others I discard as rubbish.
I do try to keep an open mind, but my own beliefs about human nature and past experiences do play a role in my opinions.
It is a fact of society that corruption exists at every level and in all walks of life, including police forces and governments.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
334 Karen Says: January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Peter O
Every time there’s been a lead reported it follows the same formula.
Edit…
I think it’s like UFOs and Elvis.
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Yup, pretty much spot on! Madeleine will join the UFO’s and Elvis as a “staple” of the National Enquirer in years to come, in my opinion.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
319 Daisy
Your truth may not be the same as mine Daisy!
I personally do not believe you are not a pro-McCann faithful.
You are far too quick to jump on anything which looks like it could support abduction - even to the point of accusing the T9 themselves of lying (which you then say you arent doing!).
Your posts are very similar to Maria’s.
Last night we played a game where we pretended to be pro-McCann - there were some wonderful and very believable posts (batman was brilliant!). But none of us could provide any logical argument for abduction and in support of the behaviours of the McCann camp - we started to sound like you a bit!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
165…Jez
He lives and works mainly from Bath.
He usually keeps contact with his “charges” via telephone 2 or 3 times
a week.
Visits Rothley as and when required for meetings and other interviews if
necessary.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
329
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
326 jo
A handful of genuine people are, but there are many who are pro-mccann out of guilt - they too leave their children and think ‘there but for the grace of god go I’
These are the dangerous ones, as they do NOT want the McCanns prosecuted and do not want a change in law.
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Are they the ones sending letters of support to the Mccanns saying that them too have left their kids unattended????theyre stupid or what????I cant believe this…..(but,yes,I do,if you see what I mean)
January 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
158 Miss Match
LOL
sicilianissimo!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
279 Peter O
Sorry for the confusion, Kate”s Dad” “Heartfelt plea” is in today”s Daily Express, page 5.
I definitely read the Matthew Parris article today on the Anorak website. Trouble is I”m
so computer illiterate I don”t know how I found it.!!!!!!!!! I thought it was on the right hand
side of this site, ie Twitterings or Recent Posts and I trawled through but no joy. Anyway, this
gem I found just now under Twitterings. An Employee of Merrill Lynch was so digusted with
the Annual bonus he received that he defacated in the Rest Room , trod in it and then walked
all over the place!!!!!!!!!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
330 Ian
So do I - but they should!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Peter O
Every time there’s been a lead reported it follows the same formula.
1.Story about Madeleine being seen in x place.
2.Woman (no men so far) says she reported the lead and the PJs didn’t take her seriously.
3.Days later, in last paragraph of an article, we get told that the PJs did follow it up and had ruled it out usually weeks previously.
I think it’s like UFOs and Elvis.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Another slow day…
Nominations for the “Daily Mail Comments - Most Intelligent Comment Of The Day Award” are now open. Mine is D Walmsley, of Leeds for:
“The lake should be drained if nessarsary to see if Maddie was murdered, the Portuguese owe it to the McCanns for all they have put them through.”
And what could be easier? If they stopped munching sardines they could do it this afternoon. A shame about the spelling, but one must make allowances for genius.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
319 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
313 Peter O Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
236 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
230 man on a hill Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
225 Daisy
Edit…
And to answer your last comment, I am not catholic (I’m an atheist), I am not a doctor (I’m an Architect), I am not a child neglector (I’m an excellent mother) and I’m not racist (I have many friends of different races), etc.
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These repeated debates about who someone thinks another party is, or who someone claims to be, are largely pointless and unverifiable on an “anonymous” Internet forum.
You can’t prove any of your assertions about who/what you are any more than you can disprove that I’m not really a one eyed, one legged, transvestite hooker called Petrovia with a penchant for Twiglets whilst on the “job”!
You hold different opinions to others, I don’t agree with them, but hey that our respective prerogatives.
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Peter O,
The debate was not started by me, by the way. But, if a poster is going to accuse me of something, I have the right to defend myself. It is your prerogative to believe or not what I say. Except for my “nickname” on this site, I tell the truth.
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I wasn’t referring to the “debate”, I was referring to your claims which are not provable, in my opinion.
I could be a lying toe rag for all anyone knows in here. There is no point in my claiming to be whiter than white and close to being sainted (when I pop my clogs of course), because I can’t prove it.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
328
dcb Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I wonder if the authorities will seize the letters from the “hundreds” of parents who wrote to the Mccanns saying they also left their children unattended?
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Do you think the authorities will be bothered? do you really think people have said that in their letters?
January 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
328 dcb
Somehow I doubt that!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
326 jo
A handful of genuine people are, but there are many who are pro-mccann out of guilt - they too leave their children and think ‘there but for the grace of god go I’
These are the dangerous ones, as they do NOT want the McCanns prosecuted and do not want a change in law.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I wonder if the authorities will seize the letters from the “hundreds” of parents who wrote to the Mccanns saying they also left their children unattended?
January 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
314
chenier
I do! Very much.
All this talk of cross border security and Europe being behind the US, all aimed at distracting from the need for PREVENTION and focussing on the RESULT.
If the McCanns were honest, their focus would be on the real Madeleines law, ‘Never leave your little ones alone’.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
324
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
322 jo
We are in agreement.
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Most people agree with this,even the pro mccanns supporters…..
January 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
317 Gloria Smudd Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Peter O 313
You can’t prove any of your assertions about who/what you are any more than you can disprove that I’m not really a one eyed, one legged, transvestite hooker called Petrovia with a penchant for Twiglets whilst on the “job”!
What Peter Cook referred to as a unidexter?
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He knew me? Damn! I should have charged more!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
322 jo
We are in agreement.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
318 Karen
I agree.
In fact there is a very good test.
Is the claim supported by Daisy or Maria or one of the other consistant ‘McCann supportive’ posters? If yes, then its garbage. If no, probably worth investigation!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
316
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
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I reckon it is even necessary they are charged for child neglect to make an example because MANY children are left alone for too long or not etc…..and yes,the mccanns have made their upmost to confuse eveything and everybody.
The “rest”? will we ever know?
January 12th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
315 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
297 Peter O Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
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Thanks for the link!
One thing that keeps on popping up is the alleged unresponsiveness of the PJ when someone has contacted them in the past about things like this one, sightings of possible abductors, etc. It is, in my opinion, not acceptable that a police force doesn’t follow up on ALL leads, no matter how distant they are from what they believe to be the proper lines of enquiry. I can’t but distrust the first PJ investigator in this case (Amaral? - can’t remember his name), but I hope that Rebelo is more diligent and gets to the bottom of this.
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That’s also a well worn diversionary tactic by people who don’t want an investigation to make progress in certain directions.
Just because someone claims in a media article the PJ haven’t treated some “lead” seriously, it doesn’t mean there is any truth in either that suggestion or the “lead” itself. It is just more media speculation, until proven otherwise.
It’s not my field of expertise, but I understand that no investigation ever follows every lead, it would be impossible. High profile cases in particular attract a fair degree of nutters and glory hunters that have to be weeded out.
That’s before you get onto the “sensitive” subject of whether the McCann’s, their allies and supporters have deliberately issued misleading leads for their own disruptive purposes.
You’re supposed to distrust Amaral.. That was the whole intention of the smear campaign against him, in my opinion.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
315 Daisy
Why do you always believe anything anti-PJ and pro-McCann!
I believe The McCanns are trying to distract and waster effort and time to get themselves off the hook.
I bet you supported the M3 until it was revealed that their promises were rubbish.
With no evidence whatsoever of abduction I would expect the PJ to focus on the family and friends and not waste time follwing up every hair brained and obviously over dramatic claim being made.
You keep claiming that you are open minded and the next minute you are posting something like that.
January 12th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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313
Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
236 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
230 man on a hill Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
225 Daisy
Edit…
And to answer your last comment, I am not catholic (I’m an atheist), I am not a doctor (I’m an Architect), I am not a child neglector (I’m an excellent mother) and I’m not racist (I have many friends of different races), etc.
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These repeated debates about who someone thinks another party is, or who someone claims to be, are largely pointless and unverifiable on an “anonymous” Internet forum.
You can’t prove any of your assertions about who/what you are any more than you can disprove that I’m not really a one eyed, one legged, transvestite hooker called Petrovia with a penchant for Twiglets whilst on the “job”!
You hold different opinions to others, I don’t agree with them, but hey that our respective prerogatives.
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Peter O,
The debate was not started by me, by the way. But, if a poster is going to accuse me of something, I have the right to defend myself. It is your prerogative to believe or not what I say. Except for my “nickname” on this site, I tell the truth.