Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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January 12th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
372
Cheryl Says:
Daisy, would you kindly not use your intelligence and common sense on here? You are ruining all the satirists fun in here. How could you dare be so civil and logical about a tragedy that occurred and not prejudge? .
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Brilliant, Cheryl
January 12th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
369…Val
Attacking the person not the argument or theory.
Ad hominems is often quoted often by Jane….as she/he then proceeds to
do the same her/himself to other posters. Particularly Mr Bennett.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
372 Cheryl
Oxymoron isnt it? Daisy and common sense and logic? lol!
I think she has taken your advice in advance!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
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Ian Says:
A handful of genuine people are, but there are many who are pro-mccann out of guilt - they too leave their children and think ‘there but for the grace of god go I’
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And your hard evidence for that entirely unsubstantiated slur on those who disagree with you is…..? The only legal qualification you’ll get with these sort of irrational claims would be in s*ds law.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
342 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
313 Peter O Says: January 12th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
236 Daisy Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
230 man on a hill Says: January 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
225 Daisy
Edit…
And to answer your last comment, I am not catholic (I’m an atheist), I am not a doctor (I’m an Architect), I am not a child neglector (I’m an excellent mother) and I’m not racist (I have many friends of different races), etc.
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These repeated debates about who someone thinks another party is, or who someone claims to be, are largely pointless and unverifiable on an “anonymous” Internet forum.
You can’t prove any of your assertions about who/what you are any more than you can disprove that I’m not really a one eyed, one legged, transvestite hooker called Petrovia with a penchant for Twiglets whilst on the “job”!
You hold different opinions to others, I don’t agree with them, but hey that our respective prerogatives.
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Ian,
I believe certain things that are anti-McCann and I believe others that you consider pro-McCann. I use my own judgement to select from everything that has been reported just some things that, in my opinion, could be feasible. Others I discard as rubbish.
I do try to keep an open mind, but my own beliefs about human nature and past experiences do play a role in my opinions.
It is a fact of society that corruption exists at every level and in all walks of life, including police forces and governments.
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You meant Peter O?
It’s also a “fact of life” that humans have an amazing ability to justify their actions, however despicable, and will seek to use any means possible to avoid suffering the consequences resulting from their own actions.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
369 It means against the person. Hard to separate person from what they say sometimes!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
362
Leeza Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
340
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
319 Daisy
Your truth may not be the same as mine Daisy!
I personally do not believe you are not a pro-McCann faithful.
Your posts are very similar to Maria’s.
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Yes I agree! There is little difference in content or style and the recurrent theme is “anything is possible” and “innocent until proven guilty”. The McCanns are suspects and I suspect them. Also, I find it reasonable to dispute their version of events because they have given contradictory accounts of the events of that evening and have profited financially from their child’s disappearance. Arguing these simple points ad infinitum with Daisy, Maria and co is a waste of time and fulfills their aim of turning the forum into a total bore.
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Daisy, would you kindly not use your intelligence and common sense on here? You are ruining all the satirists fun in here. How could you dare be so civil and logical about a tragedy that occurred and not prejudge? .
January 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
362 Leeza
Yes thats why I am going to try to ignore Daisies posts. I say try because the arguments are sometimes so outrageous and the logic so - well - not there - that its hard to ignore them!
For example, Daisy has a theory that the abductor went in and out through the patio doors, yet Tanner is not a liar, the two just cant work together but Daisy just couldnt see it…
January 12th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
366
chenier Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
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Chenier,
Don’t take my comment out of context, thanks!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
363 jane
I Know “ad infinitum” and “ad hoc” but what does “ad hominems mean?
January 12th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
318 Karen - check up the real arguments about Hanratty before you go down the “we all know” route - http://www.innocent.org.uk/cases/jameshanratty/ — I might find the McCanns explanations of what happened to their daughter puzzling/unconvincing but that doesn’t mean that I subscribe to your “near enough is good enough” view of justice. Others might like to look at the role of DNA analysis/storage in the Hanratty case.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
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Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
349 Ian
I meant Daisy’s! I like yours!
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Ian,
I do like your post sometimes, when they are rational and have good argument behind them, but not when you go on and on about silly things. I think it is a good idea that you have a little “siesta”. Sometimes, tieredness clouds our judgement.
… And I totally agree with you: I don’t suffer fools either 
January 12th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
361
Daisy Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Don’t waste your time with my posts or my views. We will not agree.
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That could, of course, be construed as a demand that neither Ian nor anybody else points out the flaws in your contentions.
Nice work, if you could get it, but I think I will probably continue to challege some of the more egregious claims …
January 12th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
363 Jane
No…not at all, I think that Maria and Jane are very similar in their styles.
I’m very uncomfortable with their illogic.
Both claim to be open minded, accuse others of not being open minded and yet are very biased (and visibly so) yet dont seem to think it can be easily recognised.
It may be they are punching above their weight.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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noseycow Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am
70 - Rosemary - that is the funniest statement ever don’t you think - No VALUABLES taken.
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What is funny about it, noseycow? Was it not being explained no passports were taken, no jewelry (jewelry, cameras, luggage, etc. is the term valuables would mean - at least that is how I use the word referring to jewelry, etc., in fact police also use that term inquiring if anything of value is taken in a robbery of one’s house). Further, why would anyone take valuables ( passports, etc.) if their target was a child? Sorry if my interpretation is too logical for the sinisters or cynics.
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Mods and Admin
Perhaps Noseycow places more value on her children than on mere chattels. Her term of phrase was UK and not US, its a strange little way we have over here in the UK
January 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
346
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
342 Daisy
…and in not for profit (yet mortgage paying) funds!
Daisy, I dont know why you post here, but I can honestly say I do find your multi pasted posts difficult to read and always ‘odd’ in their logic.
Very similar indeed to Maria. Do you know her?
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Run out of arguments so you thought you’d resort to baseless personal slurs and groundless ad hominems once again, eh, Ian? How pathetic.
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Mods and Admin
Jane, a little over the top for such a mild comment from Ian
January 12th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
340
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
319 Daisy
Your truth may not be the same as mine Daisy!
I personally do not believe you are not a pro-McCann faithful.
Your posts are very similar to Maria’s.
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Yes I agree! There is little difference in content or style and the recurrent theme is “anything is possible” and “innocent until proven guilty”. The McCanns are suspects and I suspect them. Also, I find it reasonable to dispute their version of events because they have given contradictory accounts of the events of that evening and have profited financially from their child’s disappearance. Arguing these simple points ad infinitum with Daisy, Maria and co is a waste of time and fulfills their aim of turning the forum into a total bore.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Ian,
No I don’t know Maria. But, from what I understand, she gave Tony Bennett a run for his money at some point regarding his 19 or now 21 Reasons “theory’.
Anyhow, I find it unbelievable that you, and correct me if I’m wrong, who apparently stated that you are in second year of doing a Law degree, has such a short sighted view of this case.
Don’t waste your time with my posts or my views. We will not agree.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
358…dcb
Bulk mail deliveries to only a few addresses too.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
358
dcb Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Imagine getting a letter from the Mccanns solicitor.
“Thankyou for your letter of support telling Kate and Gerry that you also leave your young children on their own when you go to the pub.
Kate and Gerry would like to call you as witness in their defence. Could you please attend Court on ………”
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hahahaha…I dont think this is going to happen…there wont be enough room to lodge all the neglectors!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Imagine getting a letter from the Mccanns solicitor.
“Thankyou for your letter of support telling Kate and Gerry that you also leave your young children on their own when you go to the pub.
Kate and Gerry would like to call you as witness in their defence. Could you please attend Court on ………”
January 12th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
351
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
As I am making mistakes a lot, I think I will go lie down for a bit!
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Dont say that…you are not making mistakes at all.As anyone here,you are trying to find out whats going on,if some do not like what you are saying,its their problem not yours.As long as we are respectful of each other,I dont see where is the friction.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
355…dcb
And I thought your cheek bulge was due to your sucking on a sweet.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
352
Matt
I was being a little tongue in cheek Matt.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
349
Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
345 jo
Sorry jo, I dont suffer fools gladly - its a weakness of mine.
I’ll not comment on jo’s posts anymore - as I really dont think we see eye to eye and its frictional.
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Ian,por favor! I feel sad now,seriously,with this post.I dont feel its frictional….I dont feel for fools either,believe me.I do not think any of us here is a fool,Ian.And you less than anyone else .We are just trying to make sense out of a hudge mess
January 12th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
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Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
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Peter O,
I don’t get your point. Did I ever ask you to believe what I stated? I defended the posters accusations and that’s it (with the truth). Why are you wasting your time with this? Don’t believe me. It is not something I will dwell on and you shouldn’t either, in my opinion.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
347…dcb
I wasn’t indicating the point of it being a good or bad defence.
Merely suggesting that it could happen.
Particularly considering that the Dr’s raise the matter themselves
of the apparent existance of such support.
Personally…I think it wouldn’t help them much.
January 12th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
As I am making mistakes a lot, I think I will go lie down for a bit!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
349 Ian
I meant Daisy’s! I like yours!
January 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
345 jo
Sorry jo, I dont suffer fools gladly - its a weakness of mine.
I’ll not comment on jo’s posts anymore - as I really dont think we see eye to eye and its frictional.