Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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January 12th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Chenier,
If you are so concerned about factual observations, then why not make your observations based on all my posts since I started posting? If I use your logic, then I must conclude most people here are not concerned about Maddie, because the amount of words dedicated to the little girl are minimal. Is that your logic?
Yes, your original post was not in bold. I chose not to edit out the other paragraph therefore “highlighted” (bold) the paragraph I was referring to in my response. The content was the same, word by word.
And I still believe you are “attacking” when you make such remarkable conclusions about someone posting in here, just because it doesn’t fit with your factual analysis.
Sorry, that is not MY logic.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
495…Daisy
Of course….but the result of your personal opinion led you to state
that the anti-McCann’s would never apologise if the McCann’s were
found to be innocent.
That sounds like a very self-righteous and judgemental opinion to me.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
491…Daisy
There must be a Law in the UK ….after all, Mr Bennett applied for a Summons
on Child Neglect in relation to the McCann’s.
The summons was not granted because the alleged offence was not considered
to be within the UK Court’s Jurisdiction.
That is not to say that if the “offence” had been committed within the UK
that a Court Case would not have occurred.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
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Matt. Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
486…Daisy
So…how did you form that opinion ?
Ask for a show of hands ?
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Matt,
I’ve just explained it to you!
Again, we go back to … it is my opinion (could be wrong of course).
January 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
The prosecutor refused to allow Amaral to arrest KM on neglect charges,why, Peter O says we cannot admit this to the forum, I reckon it is as true as any tosh the barmy brigade like to throw at we more balanced supporters of justice.That bastion of truth the sun.++++http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article303634.ece
January 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
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Daisy Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
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chenier Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Daisy Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
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I don’t believe that someone who had the slightest genuine interest in what happened to Madeleine would devote 6 words to Madeleine and 98 words to slagging off the PJ.
Logically therefore, I conclude that you don’t have any interest in what happened to Madeleine, and are posting here for entirely different reasons.
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Chenier,
You have proven my earlier point. Nothing to discuss, therefore attack, attack
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I haven’t attacked you. I made a factual observation about your posts, and drew a logical inference from it.
Incidentally, my post was not in bold.
But your bright yellow exclamation mark is really very cute…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
479 Gloria Smudd
I totally agree.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
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Dr. Watson Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I see, pro-s are all stating that they do not dispute the fact of naglect. Great!
Would they then please agree that Mc. should spend 24 months in prison (at leaast) for child neglect, with their twins looked after by relatives while the holy couple sits?
I would settle for that! No disagreement then! All anti-s and pro-s shake hands and do a compromise: 24 months for Mc., not firther punishment! O.K.?
I think, even a couple of months in prison will return the aggorant Gerry to Earth!
The truth is that pro-s only accept the Mc.’s guilt of neglect if no proper punishment followes!
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Dr. Watson,
You are mistaken. If the law stipulates 2 years for child neglect and they are found guilty of that, then I most definitely agree with them being punished accordingly. I was, though, under the impression that there is no such Law in the UK? Don’t know if there is such Law in Portugal. Maybe you can clarify this for me.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
484…Peter
The phantom.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
486…Daisy
So…how did you form that opinion ?
Ask for a show of hands ?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
482
Dr. Watson Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I see, pro-s are all stating that they do not dispute the fact of naglect. Great!
Would they then please agree that Mc. should spend 24 months in prison (at leaast) for child neglect, with their twins looked after by relatives while the holy couple sits?
I would settle for that! No disagreement then! All anti-s and pro-s shake hands and do a compromise: 24 months for Mc., not firther punishment! O.K.?
I think, even a couple of months in prison will return the aggorant Gerry to Earth!
The truth is that pro-s only accept the Mc.’s guilt of neglect if no proper punishment followes!
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I do not agree they be put in jail. What purpose does that serve to punish them appropriately? An appropriate punishment that ALL could learn from is they be sentenced to spending the time they would spend in prison going and talking to and telling people in seminars, groups, churches, parenting classes, etc. exactly what could happen and did happen if one leaves their small children alone unsupervised and not protected, as a parent should protect and care for their child.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
479…Gloria Smudd
I think it may be very important to take on board that those “quotes” attributed
to Dr K were actually said by Mr Corner.
Dr K may have indeed said such to him…but why did he have to be the one to
say them ?
It is possible that she may not have said those words.
There is something odd about the circumstances of the Vanity Fair article.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
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Matt. Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
464…Daisy
Who’s “Them”, Daisy ?
Isn’t that a bit self-righteous and judgemental ?
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Matt,
I don’t think so. I didn’t see anybody from the so-called anti-McCann side put their hands up the other day to say that they would also admit they were wrong if the parents are found to be not guilty or released from their arguido status and someone else (abductor/other) was the perpetrator. Or did I miss something?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
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Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
461 Cheryl Says: January 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
455 Peter O Says: January 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
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No one to name - everyone sits in agreement they are guilty of Neglect their children in our eyes. However, what we all agree on is not saying the courts would agree.
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And I am of the opinion that the neglect “issue” is often used to sidetrack the debate/discussion about what actually happened to Madeleine.
I also hope that once Madeleine’s fate has been understood, and any trial(s) concluded, that appropriate action(s) will be taken against people who think it’s somehow only “naïve” to leave young children unattended.
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I was about to say that I had discussed this very issue at dinner with a friend last night when I realised that it would make me sound like Maria.
So, hastily rephrasing, I shared fish and chips with someone I barely know, who nevertheless confided in me that he knows nobody who has ever left a small child, much less small children, alone whilst at home or abroad.
And that if they did lie about the checking procedure then those lies would have systematically screwed the entire investigation, because the police would be working on false assumptions.
Since the Tapas 9 are presumably intelligent enough to know that, then the conclusion must be that they were prepared to abandon Madeleine to her fate provided it kept their noses clean and their asses out of jail.
And at that point, hiding the body of a child who had died accidentally in order to keep their noses clean and their asses out of jail is actually rather less ethically reprehensible than abandoning Madeleine to her fate…
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
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Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
461
Cheryl
jane doesnt. She thinks we are self righteous and judgemental
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Jane, do you still have saved the case you put on the other site last night from Australia?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
478 Matt. Says: January 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
467…Peter O
“Watching, watching, watching while taking notes”.
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Sorry.. far too subtle for me Matt… Who is it that’s taking the notes and for what purpose?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I see, pro-s are all stating that they do not dispute the fact of naglect. Great!
Would they then please agree that Mc. should spend 24 months in prison (at leaast) for child neglect, with their twins looked after by relatives while the holy couple sits?
I would settle for that! No disagreement then! All anti-s and pro-s shake hands and do a compromise: 24 months for Mc., not firther punishment! O.K.?
I think, even a couple of months in prison will return the aggorant Gerry to Earth!
The truth is that pro-s only accept the Mc.’s guilt of neglect if no proper punishment followes!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
464…Daisy
Who’s “Them”, Daisy ?
Isn’t that a bit self-righteous and judgemental ?
January 12th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
There was a time when blood alone of a matching type would be enough to indict — but the blood in the Scenic car is blood that has matching DNA.
Still they will attempt to raise enough money to try to discredit the DNA, or to discredit he PJ.
Kate’s dad will still try to say “Let’s find Madeleine”
But I say, that’s what the ARE TRYING TO DO.
Whoever put the blood in the car KNOWS where Madeleine is.
But unless the can pressure a confession out of them by making the other Tapas arguidos–we may never know where she is.
So, Mr. Healy, give those Tapas a call and ask them to take polygraph and start to help!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
443 chenier says
“…Even the time machine thing suggests, slightly more subtly, that’s she’s bonkers; surely anyone who had lost someone they loved would roll back time to save them.
‘‘I wish I could roll back time and go back to the day before Madeleine was abducted. I would slow down time. I would get a really good look around and have a really good think. And I’d think: Where are you? Who are you? Who is secretly watching my family? Because someone was watching my family very, very carefully. And taking notes.’ ”
Seriously, seriously strange…”
She’s not helping herself is she? All Kate has to say is “we should never have left them alone”.
As for that bizarre
“roll back time and go back to the day before Madeleine was abducted … get a really good look around and have a really good think … someone was watching my family very, very carefully. And taking notes”
statement - clearly, she needs a check up from the neck up, mate. Even having introduced the idea of going back to the day before Madeleine went missing, it doesn’t occur to Kate to say “I would not leave them alone” Breathtakingly baffling.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
467…Peter O
“Watching, watching, watching while taking notes”.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
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Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
‘Self righteous judgmental people’
Actually that sounds like the pro-mccanns to a ‘t’ doesnt it! Read Daisy’s posts, they are self righteous without a doubt
Now I really MUST go!
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January 12th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
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chenier Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Daisy Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
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I don’t believe that someone who had the slightest genuine interest in what happened to Madeleine would devote 6 words to Madeleine and 98 words to slagging off the PJ.
Logically therefore, I conclude that you don’t have any interest in what happened to Madeleine, and are posting here for entirely different reasons.
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Chenier,
You have proven my earlier point. Nothing to discuss, therefore attack, attack
January 12th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
461 Cheryl Says: January 12th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
455 Peter O Says: January 12th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
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No one to name - everyone sits in agreement they are guilty of Neglect their children in our eyes. However, what we all agree on is not saying the courts would agree.
++++++++++++++
And I am of the opinion that the neglect “issue” is often used to sidetrack the debate/discussion about what actually happened to Madeleine.
I also hope that once Madeleine’s fate has been understood, and any trial(s) concluded, that appropriate action(s) will be taken against people who think it’s somehow only “naïve” to leave young children unattended.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Matt and Daisy - I am simply too exhausted, after my rare domestic diva moment, to even lift a finger for the next 72 hours at least. Someone, please mop my brow and massage my shoulders and feed me chocolate.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
470
Cheryl
Sorry, cant respond…..she has me by the throat…aaarghh……..
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
446
Daisy Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
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I don’t believe that someone who had the slightest genuine interest in what happened to Madeleine would devote 6 words to Madeleine and 98 words to slagging off the PJ.
Logically therefore, I conclude that you don’t have any interest in what happened to Madeleine, and are posting here for entirely different reasons.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
467 Silly me!
Now definately gone!
January 12th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Ian Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
454 Cheryl
‘Self righteous judgmental people’
Apparently not dumping ones tiny defenceless children in an apartment and going for drinkies and being concerned that others - supposedly trusted medics - do just that, is being self righteous and judgemental!
We are suppoosed to put up and shut up? Dear me, what would a world be like if we were all to not challenge such awful behaviour!
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I’m not speaking of that, Ian, and you know it. I’m talking about it going far beyond just all of us agreeing and knowing it is neglect leaving those young ones alone.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
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Gloria Smudd Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
453 Daisy!
NO! Marmite is 100% vegetarian and is yeast extract! You are thinking of Bovril! Marmite and Vegemite are similar, but Marmite has a sharper flavour.
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Gloria Smudd,
Sorry, you are right. Both are yeast extract. There is one here (not Bovril) that is beef extract (can’t remember the name now) and I confused it with that.