Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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Comments
January 12th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
found the full tanner interrogation video about the bloke she saw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZyUDMvt8I&feature=related
January 12th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
756 Jass
I think it is Matthew Oldfield who has an outstanding medical negligence case.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Sorry, not R O’B but Matthew Oldfield with the negligence case, or so it has been reported
January 12th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
‘We were waiting for something to happen’ - I think I read about another of the group saying this. I can’t get this out of my head either.
What is the timeline on this feeling that something was going to happen? Was it earlier during the holiday? When the stranger was allegedly taking notes? On the night in question?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Just got the chance to wish you all a goodnight while Smuddy’s collecting a Smuddlet from a party. He’ll be back on Ebay for the rest of the night, so I’ll catch up tomorrow. I’ve a feeling there might be some sharp stuff in tomorrow’s papers now that even the Express has begun to sharpen its teeth. So night all.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
743 AgendaWide Says: January 12th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
736 Peter O
But isn’t ‘holier than thou’ one of your phrases and have you been misquoted?
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Also just noticed the comment about the other children being taken away. That’s something I would never say.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Right, really going now. Good talking to you all, wherever in the world you are.
Ciaoooooooooooo!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
756
“David Payne 41, is a surgeon at Leicester Royal Infirmary, specialising in strokes. He helped run the Find Madeleine campaign. Speaking of Madeleine’s disappearance, he spoke for the first time to say: “We know they didn’t do it. One of our party saw Madeleine being abducted. We were waiting for something to happen but didn’t in our worst nightmare think it would be this.”
I don’t see the logic in that, why not be on guard or alert someone? (when someone is waiting for “something” to happen)
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Mods and admin
Wanderer, isn’t the defence ‘we know they didn’t do it’ an odd one, do what exactly?
Who has actually accused anyone of anything- do you know? do we? no idea, and yet….
‘Confuddled at Anorak’
January 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
We were waiting for something to happen……….
This is playing on my mind………….
January 12th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
752
I think those are some elements a lot of people come here, along with varied opinions and sometimes finding similar viewpoints. On top of that, I imagine people are so interested because whatever happened to Madeleine at this point, the case is tragic. On top of that the format welcomes all types and it lets people share information in a quick and easy way.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Chenier - I agree. Barking mad, pazza (as we say in Italy).
January 12th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Just seen this on another forum. I think it’s from the Telegraph, from some months back:
“David Payne 41, is a surgeon at Leicester Royal Infirmary, specialising in strokes. He helped run the Find Madeleine campaign. Speaking of Madeleine’s disappearance, he spoke for the first time to say: “We know they didn’t do it. One of our party saw Madeleine being abducted. We were waiting for something to happen but didn’t in our worst nightmare think it would be this.”"
PS: Any significance in the fact that another of the doctors, I think Russell O’B, was in the middle of a malpractice case when they all had the holiday. Well, so I read.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
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Uta Hagen Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
So, Soothsayer has never come back…Anyone know what happened to him/her/they?
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He is stuck in a tyre well, waiting for his hero Amaral to rescue him, using the latest triangulation techniques.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Irish Girl - Buenas Noches!
January 12th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
749
May Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
702
Châtelaine Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Thinking of the simplest explanations
IMO
* IF there was some sort of “accident” whatever, it must have been May 2 [Chaplin’s night]
* IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance
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Re * IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance”
Well, Kate has said he was taking notes when he lurked ouside.
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‘I wish I could roll back time and go back to the day before Madeleine was abducted. I would slow down time. I would get a really good look around and have a really good think. And I’d think: Where are you? Who are you? Who is secretly watching my family? Because someone was watching my family very, very carefully. And taking notes.’ ”
Barking mad…
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and too bloody late , too
January 12th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Irish Girl - It is just an awful case indeed. I wonder if the reason that I post, is that I have no fellow Brits to talk about this case with. There seems to be a fair amount of ex-pats on the forum and, sometimes, I wonder, if they are here for the same reason as me.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Good Night to you all - may your God go with you.
xx
January 12th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
743 AgendaWide Says: January 12th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
736 Peter O
But isn’t ‘holier than thou’ one of your phrases and have you been misquoted?
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Have to say, does sound like a phrase I might use though I’m not certain I’ve used it in that context. Honestly though, if someone produced that quote with my name attached I wouldn’t be surprised. Aside that is from the council house thing which I know I’ve never used because I dislike the implication of the phrase.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
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Châtelaine Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Thinking of the simplest explanations
IMO
* IF there was some sort of “accident” whatever, it must have been May 2 [Chaplin’s night]
* IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance
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Re * IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance”
Well, Kate has said he was taking notes when he lurked ouside.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
742 - Peter O - yes, try to take time away too. Good for my brain and emotions! Council house shot is very cheap and insulting.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
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Miss Match Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
726 - Have you planned your outfit and hairstyle yet for the OK shoot? (I’m thinking D and G daaaarling.) We are super heroes after all. I think we are right up there with Miss Marple, Inspector Jean Darbley and errrrrm, oh, Jessica Fletcher. Background of Etna would be good, but you’ve got a pool and those bikini shots pay so well! (Don’t you dare get browner than me!)
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I’ll get my people to contact your people
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I know people what know people.
LOL - i read yours quick and thought you said “Edna”……..spose we could have Edna as a background. No rosary beads or pink things right!
Joking aside, we all care, truly we do. Guts me so it does. x
January 12th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
739 AgendaWide - There is a lot to be said for dignity.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Has anyone tried to say Smethurst without wrinkling your nose?
Good job I don’t have Botox!
Must dash! Thankx Anorak
January 12th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
Mods and Admin
To all:
During last week Ian attracted a red card and the ignominy of the Chill place.
On Friday he emerged, and to everyone’s surprise, with dignity intact, became the model poster - intelligent - polite- staying on topic, an unheard of ability even among the Mods and Admin.
But, yesterday, under great provocation, he became a tried and tested Anorakian. Despite attempts to goad him into making an intemperate response, he kept his cool and stayed focussed on the argument.
A parfait knight? Well, perhaps not, but he gets a hard hat anyway.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
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Will Says:
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708 Miss Match
I do drink but only maybe once a month and only when calm lol
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Lovely concept
January 12th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
736
Peter O
But isn’t ‘holier than thou’ one of your phrases and have you been misquoted?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
738 Miss Match Says: January 12th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Peter O - I believe that child abuse, whether physical, mental or emotional, is ‘classless’.
Like your posts by the way.
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Yes, agreed. Children from all walks of life suffer. I just think the “council house” things is a fairly cheap shot.
Thanks for the feedback it’s appreciated, I try, I have my off days too.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Irish girl - I just peed my pants laughing at your description of the Scirroco wind - ‘brown rain sand muck shite’!!!! i think I will use it from now on.
January 12th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
721 Uta Hagen Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
So, Soothsayer has never come back…Anyone know what happened to him/her/they?
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Soothsayer popped in earlier today, or was it yesterday?
January 12th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Interesting Daily Express article on loss of sympathy for McCann’s due to publicity seeking behaviour, increasingly at odds with Kate McCann’s increasing reclusivity (’Kate rarely ventures from home’)
‘On New Year’s Day on the Costa del Sol, 15-year-old Amy Fitzpatrick set out on the 10-minute walk to her home after babysitting for family friends. She never arrived and has been neither seen nor heard of since. Since Amy vanished, her distraught mother and stepfather have made only one public appearance. ‘
At a brief press conference five days later, they appealed for her safe return and for any information that could help bring that about. Since then they have been resolute in their refusal to say anything more and have turned the media away, saying: “Don’t make this another Maddy.”
It is interesting to get the perspective of children on the FindMadeleine campaign, particularly when so many supporters claim that they would do anything to recover their children if disappeared/missing. My own have told in in no uncertain terms that they would be furious with me if I operated like a celebrity wannabe and made them famous if they were missing. They would be miserable with embarrassment.