Madeleine McCann: The Gardener Questioned, Marcos Correia Cries Rape And Kelsey Lynn Kudla Says
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE: BRITISH ODD-JOB MAN QUIZZED”
A new suspect?
“An anonymous email sent to Portuguese detectives claimed that Daniel Groom was spotted lurking in an alley close to the McCanns’ apartment on the night Madeleine vanished”
The paper says he looks not too unlike the man seen walking from the holiday complex holding a child. You know, that man with no face…
Says Mr Groom: “I think I am being framed. I am the victim of a smear campaign by someone with a grudge against me… During the week two detectives had arrived in town and begun asking friends about my whereabouts. I rang them after they left a message with a friend. I met them in a car park in Praia da Luz… They were two detectives from the Lisbon area, a good cop and a bad cop. One guy was quite small and smoked a cigar. The other guy was really fat, wore girly sunglasses and kept looking around him all the time”
A good cop? We know all about the bad cops (see the Sun). But this good cop..?
They showed him the email. It went:
“Is it a coincidence that this man started working as a gardener in the area and a child went missing?
“Maybe he walked through the car park at the front of the McCanns’ apartment and a little way down the dark alley between the two buildings where he could see and probably hear that the McCanns were there.
“After that maybe he listened at the window of the McCanns’ apartment for any sign that someone such as a babysitter was there. No television…nothing.
“Did this man initially see the McCanns and Madeleine whilst working on an empty apartment/villa and note that the children were left alone? Did he then come back to watch the McCanns when it was dark and not during daylight hours?”
This is front-page news…
Says Groom: “After a few minutes they said they thought it was all b******t. They said if they needed to talk to me again they would, but they thought they were barking up the wrong tree”
A gardening joke to end. Mr Groom may survive his ordeal
“KEEP LOOKING FOR HER, BEGS GRANDAD” – Says Brian Healey: “There has been so much that has been said and written, much of it untrue and hurtful, but so often it seems to me as if the only really important person in all this has been forgotten – and that’s Madeleine”
Indeed. ‘Nuff said…
“Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate”
As we say, ‘nuff said…
THE SUN: “’Paedo dumped Maddie in lake’”
“MADELEINE McCann was raped and killed within 48 hours of being snatched then thrown in a reservoir, a Portuguese lawyer claimed yesterday. Human rights solicitor Marcos Aragao Correia said underworld sources tipped him off on May 6, three days after the tot vanished in Praia da Luz”
May 6?
Correia says he told the police. He then told Metodo 3, the McCanns’ private detectives. Correia says Madeleine’s body was in a reservoir with a small beach and showers for campers, late identified as the Barragem do Arade reservoir
Remerb when X marked the spot - “Vermoedelijke Vindplaats”
“KATE dad: Back off my daughter” – Says Brian Healy: “Some people don’t seem to want to know about the real Kate. She is such a warm and caring person, as well as being intelligent. But you can’t win because people say, ‘He would say that, he’s her father’”
Why would we care? A child is missing, why is it important we like Kate McCann?
“READERS in fury at ’sick stunt’”
“SUN readers bombarded our MySun discussion forums yesterday to vent their disgust following our revelations that an agency is ready to hire out a Maddie lookalike”
“LOOKALIKE mum: Let us help” – “The tearful mum of a tiny lookalike who hopes to play Madeleine McCann in a film insisted last night: ‘We only want to help’. American Kris Pfister, whose three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla bears a stunning resemblance to the missing tot, added: “I feel for Maddie’s family — I am on their team”
Well, no, you’re not. But you are in the papers. Fame beckons? Tonight, Matthew, I’m going to be…
Quote of the week: “Since people started telling her she looked like Maddie, Kelsey’s been following the news. She cries when she hears she’s still missing. When we read there may be a documentary or film on the hunt, she said, ‘Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”
Here’s Kels-seeeey. (Come, on, Kelsey, you’re on… Smile!)
“People say that I look like Maddie. She lost her mummy and daddy. I want to help bring her home”
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE WAS ‘SNATCHED AND MURDERED’”
“Madeleine McCann was abducted, raped, murdered and thrown in a reservoir, a lawyer claimed last night”
It’s Marcos Correia again. Who told him? He will not say. But the paper notes: “He spent three weeks at the reservoir with investigators from the McCanns’ Metodo 3 agency. Last night he called on the police to search it extensively”
They have done. You can read about it here
Are these underworld figures known to Antonio Toscano?
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine was ‘raped, murdered - and then dumped in reservoir’”
“Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added”
Or not. The reservoir was searched
“PORTUGUESE police ‘want to keep Madeleine file secret for another three months’”
Says Clarence Mitchell the couple’s spokesman: “We are disappointed, but not surprised given that the police are still investigating.
“We had expected this request, however our lawyers will be examining it and once again we would urge the police to come over and interview who they want to.
“DEATH threats for woman hiring out Madeleine lookalikes” - Shona Juliet-Adams, owner of Juliet Adams Modelling and Talent Casting Agency, says: “”I have had threatening phone calls and death threats. I am not speaking to anybody until I have spoken to the police about my security - I received death threats”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “McCanns suffer ‘almost inhumane’ police delay”
Kate and Gerry McCann could remain official suspects in their daughter’s disappearance for “several more months”
Clarence Mitchell says: “This is extremely disappointing. We will continue to co-operate with the Portuguese police, of course. However, the delay in resolving the case and eliminating Gerry and Kate is now becoming almost inhumane”
“BAD taste jokes need time to be funny” - An interactive humour survey at the Science Museum’s Dana centre in central London. Only seven per cent of the audience felt that a joke about Bhutto’s death was funny or amusing and only 31 per cent felt humour involving the McCanns was appropriate”
A Joke: “Dr Harold Shipman’s last meal was a curry. He said he enjoyed it but he could have murdered a nan”
FOX NEWS (USA): “Report: Agency Worker Receives Death Threats Over Madeleine McCann Look-Alikes”
“Shona Juliet-Adams, 41, whose agency offers the look-alikes for about $1,174 an hour, said she has been receiving ‘threatening phone calls and death threats’”
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January 12th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
789
Actually, nosey cow, I believe it was Peter that had a decent roundup of possible dates (October and recently, if I remember correctly..which is highly doubtful). Perhaps if he is still around, he can confirm.
I’m pretty sure we’d know if she was arrested, right? If not, I’m not sure about Portugal, as they do the whole secrecy thing, and I’m not sure how that would work.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
789
noseycow Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
“just a thought - does anyone know when the vanity fair interveiw was actually done? there was some confucion about where kate was - one report she was in their ‘lovely house’ and one that she was in church.[...]”
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It is my understanding that the interview dates back to October, but was only published recently.
I may be wrong ….
January 12th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
789 noseycow
January 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
just a thought - does anyone know when the vanity fair interveiw was actually done?
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No idea, but a poster on this forum yesterday said october.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Trismegistus 784
AbsolUtely !!!
January 12th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
787 Denzylle…
You mean we’re going to get Auntie Phil back???? What fun! I miss her…
January 12th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
787
But if they demand Mitchell is taken to the tip (an exercise everyone will be fighting for, no doubt), will Kennedy still support them as much as he does now? That appears tricky to me.
(Sorry, I’m basing that on the fact that Kennedy was being honest when he said he wanted to hire Mitchell anyway, for his own business)
January 12th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
787
Denzylle Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
778
Very funny!
I do wonder how much longer Clarrie will last. Not only is the Fund dwindling, but also, isn’t it only recently that his statements have started to be denied or contradicted by the McCs? First, he says he’s in talks with IMG, then they say there’s no movie. Second, he says what ‘fun’ it is to speculate in casting the main roles, then they castigate anyone connected with casting MM as ’sick’.
Of course, we know why there’s the change of heart, and it’s not only down to semantics, but nevertheless, if the Fund is running short, perhaps they’ll think Clarrie is easy to dispense with and will go back to having the family speaking for them - or else, one of their lawyers whom they are paying anyway.
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The Fund isn’t paying Clarrie, \Kennedy is.
And time for me to go to bed; night all!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
782
Peter O Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
“I completely agree. However, I’m not convinced the Tapas group would be silent about a cover-up if they played no part in it either. Ergo, there has to be something beyond Madeleine’s disappearance that binds this group together.”
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Yep
January 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
just a thought - does anyone know when the vanity fair interveiw was actually done? there was some confucion about where kate was - one report she was in their ‘lovely house’ and one that she was in church.
If this interveiw was recent might she have already been arrested? Are the police obliged to announce who they arrest? If she is being held in custody it could explain the movie story and the board resignations IMO - maybe am being too hopeful.
Is there a way of finding out who has recentley been arrested? is it in the public domain anywhere?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
782
That is one thing I don’t understand, you’d think with the dimensions of this case, they’d just want to tell the PJ everything and get their family out of it. It can’t help being under fire as well, especially while you’re trying to be supportive friends. Another thing I find odd is that, once again, this case being what it is, is that we haven’t seen more and more people who vaguely know any of these people coming forward with some silly story.
Even if more people came out with sweet stories about Madeleine (not related to the family directly, so they wouldn’t have to feel they’re exposing their own personal memories further), but just to keep the fact that this is an innocent little girl we’re talking about fresh in the minds of the public, rather than this publicity machine.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
778
Very funny!
I do wonder how much longer Clarrie will last. Not only is the Fund dwindling, but also, isn’t it only recently that his statements have started to be denied or contradicted by the McCs? First, he says he’s in talks with IMG, then they say there’s no movie. Second, he says what ‘fun’ it is to speculate in casting the main roles, then they castigate anyone connected with casting MM as ’sick’.
Of course, we know why there’s the change of heart, and it’s not only down to semantics, but nevertheless, if the Fund is running short, perhaps they’ll think Clarrie is easy to dispense with and will go back to having the family speaking for them - or else, one of their lawyers whom they are paying anyway.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
779 Leeza…
Nope not me, I’ve just come online today.
I wonder if the dingos on holiday in Portugal leave their pups unattended in unguarded dens?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
770
jass Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
In fairness, checking on various DPayne links on google, he is likely to have been referring to the McCanns first being made arguidos, with the “we knew something was going to happen” comment.
Thought I’d mention it as there are enough lies going around without adding to them.
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But that doesn’t answer the question.
The PJ have at no time specified an exact charge against the McCanns; that has been one of the most fertile source of complaints.
There are reams of possible charges against the McCanns under Portuguese law.
So which of those possible charges were the McCanns innocent of?
Payne made an all purpose ‘they are innocent’ without specifying what they were innocent of; are we to believe that Payne knows that, for example, they were not guilty under child abandonment laws?
It’s difficult to see how he could be.
Is Obrien saying that he knows Madeleine didn’t die in an accident which was subsequently covered up.
Again, it’s difficult to see how he could be…
January 12th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
780 False Flag…
I keep thinking of Spike Jones lyrics to “Pal-Yat-Chee”… a couple of cowboys go to the opera thinking it’s a spaghetti western…
“Seven hours later, we’re still in the durned the-atre!
Takin’ turns a-nappin, waitin’ for somethin’ to happen!
We’d like to go back, but we can’t get our dough back!
Ain’t no use complainin’, ’cause outside it’s a-rainin’…”
January 12th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
778
Nice work!
780
“I take it no one thinks the nuclear scene / journos-off-the-leash makes sense then?”
I don’t really know, I haven’t followed that side of everything much; I know some people have thought, I guess they just aren’t around right now?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
777 Wanderer Says: January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
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771
Peter, I still don’t think the McCanns would be silent about a cover-up if one of their friends had a sole part in whatever happened to Madeleine.
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I completely agree. However, I’m not convinced the Tapas group would be silent about a cover-up if they played no part in it either. Ergo, there has to be something beyond Madeleine’s disappearance that binds this group together.
Unfortunately we then end up back at speculation, and that’s all it is, about things like sedative abuse, recreational drugs, sexual abuse, etc, in my opinion. There has to be some complicity in whatever acts may have occurred in the lead up to Madeleine’s disappearance that binds either the McCann’s to the alleged perpetrators in the Tapas group, or the group; to the McCann’s, in my opinion.
And I promise I’ve only had two glasses of the Pinot Grigio
January 12th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
“They” have taken her…
“It wasn’t meant to be like this”
And now [new for me] “”We were waiting for something to happen”
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Furthermore, all statements “we had nothing to do with her “disapearance”
hm…
January 12th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Will 759……… “We were waiting for something to happen”…………..and didn’t someone say [? Kate}
"It wasn't meant to be like this"
These are awkward statements which we need to keep in mind as they do seem to have the potential to undermine some of our up=to=now favoured scenarios ???
OTOH they may point towards something sinister and shared amongst them [or some of them] which provide the motivation for joint cover-up / pact of silence etc……..my guesses would be some sort of media testing or something involving medical research.
I take it no one thinks the nuclear scene / journos-off-the-leash makes sense then ?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
776
Trismegistus Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
774 Leeza…
Are there dingos in Portugal
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One or two on holiday, I expect. Were you the poster of that Chamberlain account? I forgot to copy the name
January 12th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
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January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Also, with the weight and publicity of this case, along with the fact that they knew Madeleine, I don’t believe all of the Tapas 7 have always been unwavering in their union with the McCanns; even if they didn’t believe they did it. I think most people would just want to be completely cleared at this point.
I don’t want anymore plans/plots to hatch.
770
Thanks, Jass. Pity the rest of the odd statements can’t be explained as easily. Thanks for the clarification too, nosey cow.
771
Peter, I still don’t think the McCanns would be silent about a cover-up if one of their friends had a sole part in whatever happened to Madeleine.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
774 Leeza…
Are there dingos in Portugal?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
759
Will Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
“We were waiting for something to happen……….
This is playing on my mind………….”
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Hadn’t heard/read that quote before!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
The Chamberlains in no way put up such a circus as have the McCanns. Australia at the time was and is indeed now, in parts, a deeply racially split society and many natives are still treated worse than you could imagine. There has also been a history of neglect and substantial corruption in the official circles. Really high up too. Queensland, not so many years ago, was looked upon as a police state. There were thoughts that the Azaria case was hijacked by some group to get a guilty verdict to help cover over rascist acts and to appease the aboriginal people among others by convicting a god fearing white lady.
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This case took place in the Northern Territory. Lindy Chamberlain sought publicity and apperared on the cover of a woman’s magazine holding the child. She also dressed up for court and showed little emotion, which people found strange. The main reason for prosecution was inconsistency in her statements about the events she had witnessed and lack of any corroboration from anyone else. Aboriginal trackers always asserted that a dingo could carry as child in the manner that Mrs Chamberlain described but there was a lot of opposing opinion too. She was convicted and only released and acquitted when new evidence - in the form of a bloodstained jumpsuit - was found about 5 years later. Your take on this is very inaccurate. Please quote your source.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
749
May Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
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Châtelaine Says:
January 12th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Thinking of the simplest explanations
IMO
* IF there was some sort of “accident” whatever, it must have been May 2 [Chaplin’s night]
* IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance
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Re * IF it was an “abduction” on May 3, it must have been premeditated and planned long in advance”
Well, Kate has said he was taking notes when he lurked outside.
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That’s not what I meant ….
January 12th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
evening all - i believe that quote from david payne was from just after the mcc’s were made aguido’s - months after maddie vanished - he was referring to the investigation and not the holiday!
January 12th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
768 chenier Says: January 12th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Mods and admin
Wanderer, isn’t the defence ‘we know they didn’t do it’ an odd one, do what exactly?
Who has actually accused anyone of anything- do you know? do we? no idea, and yet….
‘Confuddled at Anorak’
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It’s extremely odd.
Do what?
Or rather, not do what?
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Mods and Admin
exactly!! what was it ‘they didn’t do’ has anyone actually accused Tapas9 or Mc2 of anything? (yet)
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Indeedy… However, these people seem to very particular about their choice of words?
We know they didn’t do it.
Might actually be correct? That wouldn’t preclude someone else within the Tapas group being responsible?
Would also fit with Gerry’s, We/Neither Kate nor I played any part in the disappearance of our lovely daughter Madeleine.
Again might actually be correct.
None of this precludes the McCann’s being complicit in the cover up, assuming one exists, etc. Just my opinion(s).
January 12th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
In fairness, checking on various DPayne links on google, he is likely to have been referring to the McCanns first being made arguidos, with the “we knew something was going to happen” comment.
Thought I’d mention it as there are enough lies going around without adding to them.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
768
Indeed. Maybe that is why they wanted a pact of silence, the wording of such things is important!
Also, I know it isn’t anything we’d expect to be released, but I am curious how much is being spent on their legal fees. The Madeleine fund may not need millions more if they’d use their high priced lawyers and sit down and answer more questions.
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Mods and Admin
Its been a long gestation, wonder if a premature delivery now?
January 12th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Mods and admin
Wanderer, isn’t the defence ‘we know they didn’t do it’ an odd one, do what exactly?
Who has actually accused anyone of anything- do you know? do we? no idea, and yet….
‘Confuddled at Anorak’
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It’s extremely odd.
Do what?
Or rather, not do what?
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Mods and Admin
exactly!! what was it ‘they didn’t do’ has anyone actually accused Tapas9 or Mc2 of anything? (yet)