Madeleine McCann In Chile, Maybe
MADELEINE McCann may be in Chile.
Police chief Segundo Leyton, head of the police unit specialised in the search of missing people, said the investigation was ordered after a man, who was not identified by name, reported seeing “a couple of foreigners” with a girl who looked like Madeleine in the city of Vicuna, 500 kilometres, (350 miles) north of Santiago.
Is this the first sighting in South America?
Leyton said, the unidentified man, a refrigeration technician, told police that the man he saw looked very much like a suspected kidnapper of Madeleine whose artist’s sketch was released recently by the girl’s parents.
Leyton told AP Television there is “similarity of 90-percent” between the man spotted in Vicuna and the artist’s sketch of the suspected kidnapper. “The physical signs of the child are coincident with the minor in question,” he said.
This is an update on Anorak’s Maddy round-up - HERE
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January 26th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
There have been a couple of postings re the use of foreign language in cut and paste items in posting on Anorak, paedophilia and the rumour we are getting ready to close the site.
Firstly: No-one gets ready to close a site. They close it. We have no intention of doing so. Anorak remains, as it has always been, a reflection of what is being printed and talked abou in the news. The McCann tragedy is only one of many things going on in the wortld and only one of the things talked about in Anorak.
Paedophilia next: discussion re paedophilia is NOT a banned subject on Anorak. Discussion about the specifics of the crime of paedophilia is not a subject for here or anywhere else. It remains one of the basest and vile conditions it is possible to suffer from and on a personal level I feel a great of sorrow for those with the sickness or condition of paedophilia. That sympathy pales into insignificance and shrinks to nothing when thinking of or considering the victims of the average paedophile.
There have been attempts to discuss the precise details of paedophile drives needs and wants here on Anorak that, again, is totally and completely unacceptable. I/we are not interested and any such attempts will be met with swift action and a permanent block on the poster. Several have tried , been blocked and attempted to enter the site again under a different name. All have been spotted and will not be tolerated here again.
Chloe asks about posting in foreign script a little earlier in this thread. I shall repeat my answer here. One of the primary problems is that even an interrupter such as Chloe has difficulty in precise translation. We have to assume the worst and have top say that on an English language site, English MUST be the only acceptable language. Any posting in French or Greek or German can only be specifically aimed at those who understand and read those languages. Not very many of our contributors do.
What could be the point of posting links to or précis quotes from another language? There are NO checks or balances . If the article is worth repeating because you have read and understood it in its entirety then it is worth the translation.
We are not competent to do so and will not tolerate large tracts of foreign language text. What is being said, to whom and about what? Are you giving instructions to defame a person or plant a bomb. How would we know??.
Another very important issue is; if you have read the whole and are impressed by it why should others not have the same opportunity to make their own value judgements from a full translation. If the original author can be persuaded to present a shortened and translated version the so be it. The situation remains large section of script other than English are not acceptable. -agw
January 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Where is the big show happening??? In the US? are they allowed to leave europe?is this to cover a runner?
I do hope they are on that show and break down.Great fun!
Any news from pigs and all?
January 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Spin?? or more spin????
At leats the chilean cops are investigating…but from PLD,passing through marroco then huelva….. what about mars for a change????
Whats the freck is going on????
I ahd a few hours of real life and here in spain people think exactely the same as MONTHS ago: toman el pelo/they are kidding
January 26th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
June
You probably need to pull my post as well since I quoted Saturn’s post in it…
m and a just seen it , and just did.
January 26th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
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Saturn Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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Carmen Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Cant’ say no
MODS AND ADMIN
THINK FIRST FOLKS! You are aware that we have had difficulty with people trying to post pedophilia.
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Why should anyone link paed to this case ??
It as nothing to do with it
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I’m afraid I can’t help you to understand the mentality of people who wish to write about pedophilia, it is a mystery to me. But they do, they do.
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Huh? YOU wrote “THINK FIRST FOLKS! You are aware that we have had difficulty with people trying to post pedophilia.”
Plural? Is everyone aware of this but me? I doubt it. I have no idea what you are talking about. Is this your preparation to close down the site, like the Mirror Forum?
And you wrote “I can’t help you to understand the mentality of people who wish to write about pedophilia, it is a mystery to me. But they do, they do.”
Well, Carmen, it’s a mystery to me too! But maybe you encourage them with your own headlines? I often see the word “paedophilia” strewn throughout this site. And I always wonder why that word is so often tossed into your texts. And it is even permanently embedded on your site:
“Madeleine McCann: The story of a missing girl, her parents Kate McCann and Gerry McCann, Robert Murat and paedophilia as told by the British press.”
THINK FIRST FOLKS!— “paedophilia as told by the British press”–those are your words (Anorak’s), not anyone else’s! Don’t you think it is time to edit that paragraph?
The impression you give me is that you want to make the site racy enough to attract contentious discussion, but then you want to blame posters for referring to a topic that you yourselves have made implicitly paramount. Frankly, I am very put off by this.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you want to eliminate the topic from your site, then you yourselves should refrain from referring to it. (not saying that you should or should not, just my opinion that there has been hypocrisy in your statements). imho
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Saturn,
You seem incapable of distinguishing between a discussion about the way in which the media represents the disappearance of a small child, and the abuse of freedom of speech by people who derive sexual pleasure from writing about the abuse of children. It is difficult to believe that someone who displays the intelligence sometimes shown in your posts is genuinely incapable of making that distinction.
You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support your claim that Anorak proposes to close down this site, for the very obvious reason that Anorak is this site; it isn’t confined in any way to discussion of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
This is simply one thread among many, and the people who have made this site have shown their commitment to free speech over many years; yet you come along and condescendingly reprove them for not doing what you want…
You have perfect freedom to set up your own blog and discuss whatever you like with whoever may wish to discuss it with you.
And if you really cannot distinguish between analysis of press coverage and weirdos getting their rocks off then this blog is probably too complicated for you to understand…
January 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
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chenier Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Well, they would need to persuade, for example, the Social Services that taking the twins with them to Chile was a good idea, and somehow at the moment I think there might be a few problems on that one.
Leaving them behind, and then applying for asylum in Chile might also be a bit tricky, not least because the Chilean government is unlikely to want to touch them with a bargepole.
The same goes for the United States…
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Spoilsport!!!!!
January 26th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Mods and Admin
To Saturn
I have very temporarily removed your post re Anoraks views on paedophilia in order to get a statement form Admin mainly to reassure you and others that Anorak shall not be closing.
But it may take some hours to arrange this
January 26th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
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can’t say no Says:
“D’ya think K and G will actually get off their arses this time to go look for her?”
They’d fit in oh so well in Chilly!
January 26th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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Carmen Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Cant’ say no
MODS AND ADMIN
THINK FIRST FOLKS! You are aware that we have had difficulty with people trying to post pedophilia.
___________________
Why should anyone link paed to this case ??
It as nothing to do with it
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I’m afraid I can’t help you to understand the mentality of people who wish to write about pedophilia, it is a mystery to me. But they do, they do.
*************
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Huh? YOU wrote “THINK FIRST FOLKS! You are aware that we have had difficulty with people trying to post pedophilia.”
Plural? Is everyone aware of this but me? I doubt it. I have no idea what you are talking about. Is this your preparation to close down the site, like the Mirror Forum?
And you wrote “I can’t help you to understand the mentality of people who wish to write about pedophilia, it is a mystery to me. But they do, they do.”
Well, Carmen, it’s a mystery to me too! But maybe you encourage them with your own headlines? I often see the word “paedophilia” strewn throughout this site. And I always wonder why that word is so often tossed into your texts. And it is even permanently embedded on your site:
“Madeleine McCann: The story of a missing girl, her parents Kate McCann and Gerry McCann, Robert Murat and paedophilia as told by the British press.”
THINK FIRST FOLKS!— “paedophilia as told by the British press”–those are your words (Anorak’s), not anyone else’s! Don’t you think it is time to edit that paragraph?
The impression you give me is that you want to make the site racy enough to attract contentious discussion, but then you want to blame posters for referring to a topic that you yourselves have made implicitly paramount. Frankly, I am very put off by this.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If you want to eliminate the topic from your site, then you yourselves should refrain from referring to it. (not saying that you should or should not, just my opinion that there has been hypocrisy in your statements). imho
aw1725
January 26th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Yaaaawn!…………..Just another diversion.
“One stormed: “The purpose of this latest exercise by the McCanns is the same as always. It”s another diversionary tactic.”
“This is maybe the most critical moment in the investigation. They know there is evidence that the girl died and we are on the eve of interrogating witnesses who may undo all the theories.”
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/32295/Madeleine-Manhunt-is-McCann-diversion-
January 26th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
36 chenier
Ohhhhhh, ok, everything’s clear now.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
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Daisy Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
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chenier Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
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MikeSA Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
30 Chenier
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My understanding is that there is an extradition treaty between the UK and Chile.
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But it would give rise to all sorts of interesting, or at least money-making, legal questions about who had the right to apply for extradition…
January 26th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
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Carmen Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
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Thank you for your response to me.
I have one last request regarding this issue. The way that my moderated post stands on the previous thread at this moment with the “link removed”, and your comment regarding links to the “unsavoury subject” appears that I had, in fact, linked to something which was “not above board”. I know that this is not true, and anyone who had read the post with the link intact would also know that this is not true. However, anyone catching up on posts will assume that I linked to a “devious site”.
I have no wish to try and defend myself against those that will have a field day with this post when they come across it, and I politely request that you remove my name from your attached comment to my post, as well as any other links that would link me to this. I am not asking you to remove your post, I am asking that the link to my name regarding this be removed.
My personal life revolves largely around dealing with missing children, and I have no desire whatsoever to be linked with anything that can be remotely seen as if I’d come across an undesirable site and linked it to a post that I’ve made on a public forum.
I shall trouble you no further on this matter once my request has been granted.
Many thanks.
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MODS AND ADMIN
Having now had the time to translate the article to my satisfaction that Julie linked to, I can confirm that there was absolutely nothing unsavory about that site.
I am well aware of Julie’s dedication to missing children, for which she is to be commended.
However, agw’s comment on the subject of foreign language articles and links remains the definitive statement on the subject.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
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Sally Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
But, but, I thought M was living in a castle and being treated like a princess.
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She is.
We’re discussing her clone…
January 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
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chenier Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
31
MikeSA Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
30 Chenier
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My understanding is that there is an extradition treaty between the UK and Chile.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Regarding earlier conversation ie translation of foreign languages from links……….
Translation of pages or paragraphs on the web try ……GOOGLE…..
just click on language tools next to the main search box on google,
Then you just copy and paste in the text, and select from whichever foreign language to English!
It is brilliant, it can be really funny as well type something in english then translate it to foreign then translate it back again sometimes it can be hillarious
:-)
January 26th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
But, but, I thought M was living in a castle and being treated like a princess.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
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MikeSA Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
30 Chenier
LOL!
However, imo their lack of credibility hasn’t seemed to put a damper on any of their other bizarre activities and outpourings, so I can’t see this stopping them if that’s what they were planning on doing.
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Well, they would need to persuade, for example, the Social Services that taking the twins with them to Chile was a good idea, and somehow at the moment I think there might be a few problems on that one.
Leaving them behind, and then applying for asylum in Chile might also be a bit tricky, not least because the Chilean government is unlikely to want to touch them with a bargepole.
The same goes for the United States…
January 26th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
30 Chenier
LOL!
However, imo their lack of credibility hasn’t seemed to put a damper on any of their other bizarre activities and outpourings, so I can’t see this stopping them if that’s what they were planning on doing.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
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MikeSA Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Does Chile have any extradition agreement with the UK or Portugal?
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Sadly, from Clarrie’s perspective, the article cited by Daisy refers to the little girl visiting a museum with two adults, one of whom bore a striking resemblance to Mrs Cooper’s sketch.
And since, on the whole, evil dirty unkempt creepy individuals with a penchant for kidnapping small girls tend not to take them half way aound the world to visit a museum dedicated to the life and work of a Nobel Prize winning lady poet, it seems unlikely that K&G are going to be able to convince anyone of their urgent need to follow this one up themselves…
January 26th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/
January 26th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
Does Chile have any extradition agreement with the UK or Portugal?
January 26th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
You couldn’t make it up!!! Oh they have.
Chile, Pinochet, …………D’ya think K and G will actually get off their arses this time to go look for her? Mmmmmm. Quite hard to get someone back from there. Legally speaking.
That’ll be why they are going on the Oprah Winfrey show, then, I believe she is very popular in Chile!
January 26th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
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Slyfox Says:
January 26th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I’m curious. Is this a police story or a McCann story? If it originates from the chilean police then that is interesting because it messes with the McCann’ agenda. For example, if we get lots of potential siting reports from the police then doesn’t that take the initiative away from Mc’s and MS? Bet someone here could make sense of this - in a rush - I’ve got to go til later.
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Slyfox,
From what I read in several Chilean online articles, the report of an alleged sighting has been confirmed by the chief detective of the Chilean Missing Persons Unit in an interview given to a mayor radio station in Chile.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
ttthhhhhpt!
sp = so, as in “so to speak”
and “are we now looking at a surreptitious attempt to work their way up to an illegal border crossing from Mexico”
January 26th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Is the sighting in South America an attempt to “crack” the US market from a different angle?
Having failed to cross the Atlantic (sp to speak), are we now looking at a subversive attempt at an working up to an illegal crossing from Mexico?………………………
January 26th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Mods and Admin
Just to let you know that i always translate my posts from ‘mangy scotch’ to english.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
sorry, ‘MS?’ = Met3
January 26th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I’m curious. Is this a police story or a McCann story? If it originates from the chilean police then that is interesting because it messes with the McCann’ agenda. For example, if we get lots of potential siting reports from the police then doesn’t that take the initiative away from Mc’s and MS? Bet someone here could make sense of this - in a rush - I’ve got to go til later.
January 26th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Chloe Spain:
That’s the point. If you sometimes have difficulty in interpretation between languages then those who are forced to reply on cyber translations are totally lost and often mislead.
This is and always will remain an English language site. So, yes, the ruling stays as is. -agw