Madeleine McCann: Tabloid Snap, Metodo 3 PD and McCanns Innocent
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY MIRROR: “I’M NOT GUILTY”
“A loner who looks like a drawing of a ‘creepy’ Madeleine McCann suspect has denied any links to her disappearance”
Joaquim Agostinho says: “It’s not me in the picture. I accept that the drawing looks like me”
The Mirror reports: “The former cockle picker, who lives in Altura, 90 miles from Praia da Luz, added: ‘I did not kill Madeleine and I’ve never been to Praia da Luz. I cannot even drive’”
But still his picture is in the paper in connection with a story about a missing child. Fingers are pointed
MADELEINE in Chile. What news of that? “Yesterday, police ruled out a “Madeleine” sighting in Chile after the girl was identified as American Haylee Dreyer, six”
DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE – Amazing lookalike: ‘I did not kidnap and kill her’”
Mr Agostinho looks like an artist’s impression of man whom British tourist Gail Cooper says she saw acting hanging around Praia da Luz. He is the “oddball”
Page 11: “DRIFTER MATCHES NEW MADELEINE SUSPECT”
Matches. Like in a game of snap? Snap! Snap! Snap!
“Investigators want to quiz a Portuguese drifter suspected of involvement in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Detectives working for the youngster’s parents are to question Joaquim Agostinho, 42, in the resort of Altura”
Does he have to speak with the McCanns detectives?
“Mr Agostinho, who lives in Altura, said yesterday: ‘I did not kill Madeleine and I’ve never been to Praia da Luz. I cannot even drive.’ Altura is close to the Spanish border and detectives from Metodo 3 – the agency working for the McCanns – were last night travelling there from their headquarters in Barcelona”
Again, does he have to speak with private detectives?
THE SUN: “McCANN COPS QUIZ SUSPECT LOOKALIKE”
“Detectives are to quiz a drifter who looks uncannily like a mystery suspect in Maddie McCann’s disappearance. Joaquim Agostinho, 42, denies he is the creepy man depicted in a sketch issued by parents Kate and Gerry McCann
“But Metodo 3, the Spanish private investigators hired by the McCanns, are taking the possibility seriously”
Is Metodo 3 now a police force?
A source close to Metodo 3 says: “We are going to be talking to this man as a priority, to establish if he is the one Mrs Cooper saw”
What of the McCanns?
“COPS now accept Kate and Gerry, both 39, may be innocent in Maddie’s disappearance, it has emerged. They have so far clung to just one theory — that Maddie was accidentally killed and her parents disposed of her body. Now they are taking seriously the alternative that she was snatched from the holiday apartment last May — which Kate and Gerry have always insisted must have happened”
DAILY MAIL: “Is this drifter the man in Madeleine drawing?”
Mr Agostinho says no. He delivers newspapers for a living. He says he is innocent
Metodo 3 are looking to speak with him
DAILY STAR: “MADDIE: THREE MEN RULED OUT – McCanns’ new hopes shattered”
It’s not Joaquim Jose Marques – police have ruled him out; and the Star was so certain
It’s not the girl in Chile – she’s a girl on holiday with her family
It’s not Joaquim Agostinho – he says it’s not him
METRO: “Twins play ‘find Maddie’”
“Leading world sex crimes expert Ray Wyre” has met with Kate and Gerry McCann
He sees the McCanns’ twins children. Wyre tells the paper: “They said they were going to go and find the monster that took Maddie. Then they dashed off to play the game. It’s a sad story, but it is healthy that Madeleine remains a real presence in their lives”
“A spokesman for the McCanns denied the story”
Madeleine McCann: No news is still news
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January 28th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
this morning in Correio da Manha: 9 Sept
http://www.correiodamanha.pt/n…..81&p=0
Maddie Case
Public Ministry Attorney considered arresting Kate McCann
Magalhaes Meneses, the attorney from the Public Ministry who is in charge of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine, considered arresting Kate McCann in order to present her to the instruction judge, in order to apply preventive custody to her. The formal detention at PJ would have to be performed in order for the judge to ponder applying preventive imprisonment.
The situation was discussed inside Policia Judiciaria in Portimao, and during phone calls with the PM attorney, but juridical doubts about the case (to know whether it was negligent homicide, which does not include preventive custody, or homicide with eventual intent, which admits preventive imprisonment) finally dictated that Kate was only constituted arguida, and subject to state her identity and residence [“termo de identidade e residencia”].
Maddie’s mother also felt that this was the way the investigation was headed, and on the first night after the first round of interrogations she confessed to fearing about her freedom. On the morning that the interrogation started again, the spokesperson said just that to CM: that Kate was afraid she would go to prison, for the investigators’ accusations were extremely assured.
The day that was chosen for the interrogation also indicates that the decision was simply to constitute her as arguida. Madeleine’s mother was interrogated on Thursday afternoon, at a time it was expected that the interrogation would continue on the next day.
At that time, Policia Judiciaria also predicted they would hear Gerry McCann. And they would only do so after hearing Kate. “We all know that over the weekend, diligences calm down. It’s normal, even because people have to rest. To make interrogations before the weekend seems to indicate that something was not finished. That there was a retreat in the investigation”, an investigator told CM.
As CM could further establish, the biggest problem with the investigation is that the circumstances of the child’s death are not clarified yet. As well as the fact that the body has yet to be found: something that is fundamental to strengthen the theory that is now being defended by the Policia Judiciaria.
The decision of advancing with the arguido status for Kate and Gerry was well thought over by the Policia Judiciaria and the Public Ministry. For more than a month, the authorities were convinced that the McCann couple had not provided all the answers, but the arrival of the analyses changed everything. Although they were not fully clarifying (there is a correspondence of 78.95% of Maddie’s genetic profile when compared with the blood residue that was found in the car that was used by the McCanns), the truth is that the probability of the child’s body or any piece of her clothing having been inside the car that was rented after the disappearance, has increased. This is joined by other pieces of evidence, like the fact that the dogs detected cadaver odor on Kate’s clothes and on the child’s soft toy, and also the lack of evidence pointing to an abduction.
Grandfather confesses to the use of Calpol: Medicine without death cases
Brian Healy, Madeleine’s grandfather, contradicted former statements from the McCann couple and told ‘The Sun’ that his daughter gave the child Calpol “in order to help her sleep”. “Kate must have used Calpol [to help her sleep], but it is atrocious to think of anything more”, the grandfather said. A popular medicine in the UK to treat pain and fever in children and causing somnolence, its sale was authorized in Portugal by the Medicine authority, Infarmed, on May 3 (ironically the same day that Maddie disappeared).
January 28th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
1009
Ian Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
I need a glass of wine, be right back!
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Make it two!!!!!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
1008
can’t say no
Before the fight breaks out, what does it mean?
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Till later
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Good Evening All…
What the hells been going on then….its seem something has turned Mrs Rooster into a bloody chichen possessed. Anyone know whats happened as she wont talk to me??????
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
I need a glass of wine, be right back!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
1002
Sledgehammer
In the Mccann’s Words !!!
Never heard that from the POlice !!
January 28th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
1002
Sledgehammer
“homicide with eventual intent”
Do you know what that breaks down into - the ‘eventual intent’?
January 28th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
989 Peter O Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
960 Totje Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
947 jo Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
922 Ferdinand Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
[............................. a lot .......................]
The fact that women may have been, still are, scared to go to the police following a rape still doesn’t/should not create a set of circumstances in which a lone woman venturing into a certain area dressed in a certain manner can be assumed to have consented to sex with a complete stranger(s). Her actions may be unwise I can accept.
I think [hope] we all agree to that.
However that wasn’t the issue. The issue was Jo’s question whether the parents by leaving the children alone in an unlocked apartment could be considered as or charged as “accomplices of the abductor” [in case there was an abductor].
Ferdinand was sarcastic and compared this with “a woman walking late in the dark, with a short skirt on…..” and thus getting charged for being an accomplice of the rapist.
And then the whole discussion got out of control c.q. disordered………..
January 28th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Rape is illegal, but thats not going to protect anyone (male or female) from evil doers, so one has a responsibility not to take too many unnecessary risks.
Its what makes me angry at the McCanns, they arent naive teenagers, they really cannot claim that they were led astray by how quiet the place was - in the real world there is ALWAYS danger - and the quieter it is the more dangerous it can be - as there may be nobody around to help!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
1000
nothing to worry
jo
Yes ,don’t put the link here
Portugal is fine. The P.J. ,is following the same line of inquiry
The problem ,are those poor men ,that are being stalked ,by the British Media,that came here to Portugal !!
They are raping their live !!
Is disgusting
January 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
999
Ian Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
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I hope they will be charged at least for gross neglect….. the rest only lawyers can tell.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
996 Ian Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
989 Peter O
Yes thats right.
I think this subject got a bit confused, they were looking for examples where victims might be seen as complicit through their own actions.
There is an argument that says if you put your child in the middle of a road and walk away, you might be considered to be behaving not just irresponsibly but actively seeking the result!
The McCanns did seem to be going around telling everyone of their child care arrangements - so that could be called ‘recklessness’ (the charge of being reckless as to the safety of their child).
Damn, sorry, I got all serious again!
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Clunk, chop of the hand – whatever the sound/action is….
By jove Watson, you’ve just solved the mystery of the abduction! You said:
The McCanns did seem to be going around telling everyone of their child care arrangements….
Maybe they were telling everyone in order to attract the attention of an evil predatory paedophile?
Allegedly, in my opinion, the worst form of black humour, etc, etc.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
“homicide with eventual intent” ………is what Amaral allegedly requested his prosecutor to charge Kate McCann with and remand her in custody.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
998
can’t say no Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
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Ok but I have been told not to paste link in a foreign language whatever spanish,portuguese,chinese……
How are things in portugal right now? calmed down a bit after the last fiasco???
January 28th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
997 Ferdinand
But you cannot be reliant on such a law to protect the child, as there are (of course) criminals who will ignore the law!
Although everyone knows that its not legal to go into someones house and take their property, we dont all leave our doors open and we fit alarms etc.
To me the McCanns were reckless as to the safety of their children - not by lkeaving the door open, as that was the least likely risk, but by leaving them alone at all.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
994
jo
I mean we can trust “elesplendordelaforma” ,it’s a spanish site ,and it’s not Portuguese or English !!
Nothing to do ,with ANORAK
January 28th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
963 Ferdinand Says:
“Mods and Admiin
Ok, contributory negligence, such as leaving the house unlock and burgled, the ins.co wouldn’t pay out, your rape/girl scenario, she can wear what she likes, but reserves the right to say no, leaving children however is a little different because they and not the adult are taking the risk, some in put from Ian would be interesting here, or PeterMac?”
So you wouldn’t agree that it is sufficiant to say that children are not to be taken from other peoples’ houses under any circumstances? Just as women are not to be raped when they say “no” under any circumstances?
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Mods and Admin
IF she was taken. No one has the right to take a child. But there are other risks in leaving small children - vomiting - falling- drowning- scalding-fire -the child is exposed to all those potential risks, not the parent.
No, nobody has the right to rape anyone, no matter how provocatively dressed - a child could be conceived from rape, or the young female could be underage. If the attacker wants sex, thats the attackers problem, not the victims
Burglary is a crime, they are all wrong: people die of heart attacks when confronting a burglar, manslaughter or murder?
With respect I think comparing different crimes is somewhat flippant in this instance; 3 children were left alone that is a failure of a duty of care by the parents/guardians, no matter what happens the parents should face the music.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
989 Peter O
Yes thats right.
I think this subject got a bit confused, they were looking for examples where victims might be seen as complicit through their own actions.
There is an argument that says if you put your child in the middle of a road and walk away, you might be considered to be behaving not just irresponsibly but actively seeking the result!
The McCanns did seem to be going around telling everyone of their child care arrangements - so that could be called ‘recklessness’ (the charge of being reckless as to the safety of their child).
Damn, sorry, I got all serious again!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
986
Ferdinand,
Yes!
January 28th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
990
can’t say no Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
It’s a site that is not Portuguese or British
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elesplendordelaforma?? trust from the M & A?
January 28th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
963 Ferdinand Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
950 Peter O Says:
“Irony? I’m not aware that a woman can be charged under the circumstances you describe?
I appreciate that certain parties may attempt to argue that she was asking for it , but actually that’s no defence for the rapist at all.
So far as I am aware, there are no designated areas where it is legal for anyone to assume that if a lone female is dressed in a certain manner that it’s somehow permitted to rape them should the urge take you?
While it may indeed be unwise for a lone female to be in certain areas, that’s still no basis for attempting to excuse or mitigate the behaviour of a rapist?”
This is exactly what I wanted to say in plain mode.
“I’m sure we’re losing something here in translation?”
The problem of irony which is not understood is not a matter of translation. It is recommended to use smileys. I did, but apparently it didn’t work this time.
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Mods and Admiin
Ok, contributory negligence, such as leaving the house unlock and burgled, the ins.co wouldn’t pay out, your rape/girl scenario, she can wear what she likes, but reserves the right to say no, leaving children however is a little different because they and not the adult are taking the risk, some in put from Ian would be interesting here, or PeterMac?
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I think it was the use of the word charge(d) in your original post that caught my attention. I can wholly accept that there are indeed those who will try to suggest some complicity on the part of the rape victim given their location, attire, demeanour etc.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
982 Jo
It is an interesting article (assuming I’ve read the right one) but the next question is: if this is the case, why has GB given them his support?
I’m really going now.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
986
Ferdinand Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
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I wasnt sure Ferdinand….I thought you were gone and apologised for not understanding the sarcasm or sense of (black)humour(?)
January 28th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
It’s a site that is not Portuguese or British
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
960 Totje Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
947 jo Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
922 Ferdinand Says: January 28th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
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I cant believe your last post on rape etc….
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I think you don’t understand what Ferdinand is saying.
Not too many years ago women were “scared” to go to the police to make a statement when they were raped. One of the reasons why they were scared, was the “treatment” they got by the police and the questions and suggestions that were made to them.
Remember only a few weeks ago in Saudi Arabia a woman got raped [she sat in a car with a man that wasn’t her husband and a gang raped her] and send to prison [and got lashes] because the judge said “she asked for it by her behaviour”.
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I have no doubts that the UK Criminal Justice System is far from a paragon of virtue in many areas, not least in our treatment of rape victims. That said, I don’t think we bear comparison with Saudi Arabia in this respect.
The fact that women may have been, still are, scared to go to the police following a rape still doesn’t/should not create a set of circumstances in which a lone woman venturing into a certain area dressed in a certain manner can be assumed to have consented to sex with a complete stranger(s). Her actions may be unwise I can accept.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
982
jo
Trust on that site
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
983
Chloe Spain Says:
January 28th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
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Venga! ya lo tienes!!!
You”ve got it!!!
Its lots of fun
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
974 Chloe Spain Says:
“963 Ferdinand
I appear to be the only person who understood you! (and I still haven’t got to grips with using smileys).”
Totje seems to have understood it as well. However it always strikes me when I make a sarcastic comment of which I assume that everybody must understand it - and for the sake of unambiguousness I add a smiley - but there is always a person who takes it literally.
January 28th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
978 coolandcalm
We get to entrenched and forget that though we might disagree passionately on some issues, there are probably others - maybe more important ones in reality - where we would agree equally passionately!
Its defiantely advisable to have a little fun sometimes (its why I really like Ade!). Actually when I first found Anorak I laughed out loud at some of the posters - not even noticing whose ’side’ they were on!