Madeleine McCann: Alipio Ribeiro’s Thinks, Clarence Mitchell Knows And A Birthday
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY STAR ON SUNDAY: “MADDIE COPS SAYS SORRY – Police ‘too quick’ “to blame parents”
“A top policeman has sensationally admitted that making Gerry and Kate McCann suspects over their daughter Maddie’s disappearance was too ‘hasty’. Alipio Ribeiro, boss of the Portuguese department in charge of the investigation, dropped his bombshell in a radio interview”
Says Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns spokesman: “Now that the national director of the Policia Judiciaria apparently acknowledges that they should never have been made arguidos, it follows there is no case for them to answer.”
SUNDAY EXPRESS: “POLICE ‘TOO HASTY’ OVER MCCANNS”
“As the couple bravely celebrated the third birthday of their twins, Sean and Amelie, one of Portugal’s most senior detectives admitted that making them suspects had been a “hasty” mistake”
Did Mr Alipio Ribeiro say “mistake” in his radio interview?
Says the paper: “The couple, both 39, said the official’s comments were tantamount to an admission that Portuguese detectives had bungled by centring their investigation on them.”
Says Mr Ribeiro to Portugal’s Radio Renascenca, owned by the Catholic Church:
“At this moment in time and speaking with the experience I have of Portugal’s Public Prosecution Service and the constitution of arguidos, I think there perhaps should have been another assessment before the McCanns were made official suspects.
“I don’t have any doubt about that. The national director of the Policia Judiciaria doesn’t give out orders on the constitution of arguidos but there was a certain hastiness”
Says the paper: “Last night Ribeiro was under growing pressure to stand down as national director of their country’s Policia Judiciaria”. Pressure from, whom?
MAIL ON SUNDAY: “”Police chief: We were too quick to make Gerry and Kate ‘arguidos’”
Says the Mail: “Kate and Gerry McCann’s bid to clear their names over the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine has been given a massive boost after the head of Portugal’s police admitted it had been a mistake to rush into making them official suspects”
Mr McCann says: “We need a breakthrough and this looks like it could be one. It is fantastic news. We still have a long way to go but people in Portugal need to understand what has been happening and what we have been going through. We know it will take the police a long time to accept what has been happening is wrong but it is an important step towards that”
Says the McCanns’ lawyer in Portugal, Carlos Pinto de Abreu: “Many people who may have vital information have possibly not come forward as they wrongly suspected the McCanns”
What about that huge reward, and doing the right thing? People may be deterred from coming forward for fear of being named in the media and questioned by Metodo 3, the McCann’s private investigators. But let us not speculate
SUNDAY PEOPLE: “MADDIE U-TURN - EXCLUSIVE Cops admit mistake on twins’ birthday”
“Kate and Gerry McCann threw a birthday bash for their twins yesterday - as a top cop admitted it was WRONG to name them as suspects over missing Maddie”
Well, Policia Judiciaria “boss” Alipio Ribeiro, said the police acted too hasilty. “Ribeiro last night faced calls to resign over the astonishing U-turn” – although from whom, the paper does not bother to say
Say the McCanns: “The support we have had from around the world has been amazing. It’s helped maintain our strength and hope and this has helped the search for our precious Madeleine. We believe there is a very good chance she is still alive. She deserves the love and security of her family. She needs to be back home with her mummy and daddy, brother and sister”
THE GUARDIAN: “Police chief says ‘we were too hasty’ in naming McCanns as suspects”
“In an interview to be aired on Portuguese radio today, Alípio Ribeiro, the national director of the Polícia Judiciária, will concede that police may have acted too soon in making Kate and Gerry McCann formal suspects, known in Portugal as arguidos. His comments were interpreted last night by the McCanns as a tacit admission that the police were wrong to name them as being involved in the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter”
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February 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 am
“This case is being investigated under Portuguese law, not English law.”
Except, of course, tht Portuguese Law was changed to be much more similar in application to English law, just ten days or so after the McCanns were made suspects - not least because, Portugal had been repeatedly found in breach at the European court of Human Rights.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am
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Julie Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
156
Sledgehammer Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
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Thank you for your viewpoint, will be interesting to see what the others think as well. Although I cannot fathom out why they would waste millions more if they know they have no case? Covering their own asses isn’t enough reason for me? The backlash from not only the Portuguese people, but the rest of the world is going to be far worse in a couple of months time if it is actually revealed that the extension was made purely to cover up a lack of evidence????
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Millions more?
Well anyway, you’re getting there.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 am
117 Increasingly Incredulous
Just got back and saw your post. I picked up the Article from Clouseau 77, if you scroll
down and click on the webpage you”ll see it.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:35 am
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Increasingly Increduloous Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 am
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I’m the one who should be waffling in oblivion …… sniffing in second-hand “green” smoke ….. I think it’s affected you
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am
Julie
Duh……….maybe cos they aint got enough evidence yet and they’d look a right bunch of charlies if the McCanns were allowed to view it? I mean, come on, its been 6 months ffs.
Im gonna get you baby………im gonna get you yes I am!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 am
163 you were wrong end of.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 am
164…Julie
Lots and lots of evidence……Judge obviously thought so.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
156
Sledgehammer Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
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Thank you for your viewpoint, will be interesting to see what the others think as well. Although I cannot fathom out why they would waste millions more if they know they have no case? Covering their own asses isn’t enough reason for me? The backlash from not only the Portuguese people, but the rest of the world is going to be far worse in a couple of months time if it is actually revealed that the extension was made purely to cover up a lack of evidence????
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 am
144
Sledgehammer
Can you be more specific?
My understanding of our disagreement issue was that you claimed the changes introduced in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 (cited quite corrrectly by yourself) in which the Police Caution was fundamentally changed to allow consideration by a jury when considering the facts any failure to mention when questined something they (the accused)may later rely on in court (meaning ‘recall later but not mention when questioned) did not affect the right to remain silent, despite the removal of that very phrase?
You extracted the ‘you dont have to say anything’ part and attempted to use it out of context and ignore the rest of the caution.
Your claim was that the law in England and Wales was in some way superior to Portuguese law as everyone was effectively ‘arguido/arguida’ and had the associated conditions applied to them without having to have their status in the eyes of the law changed from that of any other ‘normal status’ citizen.
I stated that the right to remain silent had been fundamentally altered by the change in caution and the dispute began!
Your ‘police officer’ friend would not be unusual as a policeman in making errors at the point of arrest, the UK is not a stranger to many such instances. If he claims the change in caution had no effect then he needs a refresher.
Actualy I am suprised - you seem to be anti-police and anti-law, yet you have befriended a police office - an ex squaddie pal perhaps? It is only foreign forces you fear?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 am
159…Increasingly Increduloous
“”"Bla…bla….bla…”
Linguistic logorrhoea.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 am
145 Increasingly Increduloous Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
Edit…
So, let’s kill that interpretation, and return to a more reasonable one. That the McCanns were made arguido in the absence of what English Law terms “reasonable, objective cause”.
And that, havng publically named them suspects, the PJ have been forced to work very hard to justify that Edit…
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This case is being investigated under Portuguese law, not English law.
The Portuguese do not name arguidos, they leave that to the arguidos spokesperson(s).
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 am
In the SOS Madeleine interview with Ribeiro he does not state that the McCanns should not have been made arguidos because they were innocent - he states that the PJ would have been better served investigating the case without the McCanns having the status of suspect as it has resulted in a tangle of red tape between Portugal and UK .
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:27 am
“Im sure that they would have financial advisers and could have negotiated ‘mortgage holidays’ etc”
In other words, having been caught out deliberately misrepresenting the McCanns financial situation, you now resort to speculation for which you have no evidence whatseover.
Ian, you ahve a tendency which seems awfully common amongst the ANti-McCann brigade - to become very petulant when it’s pointed out that the real world doesn’t match your carefully constructed fantasy.
There’s a lovely if subtle example over the last day or two….
as recently as last week on here, when I quoted Haynes Hubbard, the Anglican Vicar of PdL that he’d arranged a farewell dinner for the McCanns several days before they were made Arguido, and that they’d had longstanding arrangements to fly out the following weekend, I was called a liar, and many posters refused to acknowledge that. The concensus was that the McCanns “cut and ran” on being made suspects.
Now, it seems it was common knowledge that the McCanns had pre-arranged to depart, and this forced the hand of the PJ.
It’s near-Orwellian, in the ability to switch views - recall the moment when Oceania suddenly changed from being at war with Eurasia to instead to be at war with Eastasia?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 am
156…11.30am
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 am
145 Increasingly incredulous
“And that, havng publically named them suspects, the PJ have been forced to work very hard to justify that “-
This not accurate, there is a huge difference between arguido and suspect.
And “publically”? What does that mean? Could it be done secretly?
They never were named suspects. So, “let’s kill that interpretation and return to a more reasonable one”.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
Julie, the reason for the extension, as even Stevie Wonder could see, was that they have no evidence and are desperately bricking themselves over the whole fiasco.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
Jon Leach is an interesting member of the Bell Pottinger Group. He is the one who has developed software that will let them know who is talking about whom on what forum. Since I am talking about him and about Bell Pottinger, I know he is reading this. Hello there, Jon! Give my regards to Tricia!
http://www.bell-pottinger.co.uk/key_people.html
Jon Leach
Jon is the Planning Director of the Bell Pottinger Group.
He has spent 20 years in the communication industry working in advertising, design, direct marketing and most recently PR. Trained as an advertising account planner he always seeks objective data about consumer behaviour that can be used to create strategic communication plans. This means that the right people will receive the right messages.
Over the last two years he has been studying the rise of the social media phenomenon and has developed software tools specifically designed for PR practitioners to engage with on-line opinion formers.
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February 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 am
The neighbours appear to be enjoying Sunday lunch with a bit of the good ol’ green stuff …. I’m gonna be floating around Anorak soon ……
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 am
148…Peter O
Like the abductor(s)……non-existant.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 am
120 Garth Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 10:52 am
110 Peter O Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 am
This will be the PJ who are not spending over £50K per month of public donations plus Brian Kennedy’s money making sure their misunderstanding and innocent explanations are clearly understood by an increasingly incredulous public?
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Thats correct, its the same PJ. And I wonder why the McCanns have needed financial support? Due to the same PJ again?
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Bloody hell, we agree on something! Many of us do indeed wonder why two apparently innocent suspects require and expensively assembled PR and legal team!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
bountyhunter, have you heard Christopher Columbus has discovered America, allegedly, it may have been in the Telegraph.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
“”"”Which, in its turn suggests he knows the wheels have come off, and he intends a subordinate to carry the can….”"”"”
You hope……but be prepared for your faint hope to be well and truely dashed.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:20 am
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Garth Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 8:34 am
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Julie Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 am
Would be interesting to find out exactly WHO translated Mr Ribeiro’s interview! Wonder how accurately the translation was done, and if a few words have not been misinterpreted??
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Face it Julie. You’ve been wrong all the time.
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Not quite ready to concede defeat yet Garth (I’m not that easy!).
Genuine question here, and anyone can answer (including you Garth as I’m particularly interested in your viewpoint on this considering you’re gloating like a new daddy this morning).
IF Mr Ribeiro’s words were translated correctly and what he said is as stands in the English newspapers, then WHY, three weeks ago when the Portuguese judge reviewed the case, did he grant the order for the case files to remain CLOSED for the maximum allowed period? Why, if such a c*ck up had been made and the Mc’s were HASTILY declared arguidos did he not, at this point, release them from their UNJUST status? C’mon anyone with half a brain can realise that SOMEONE has been grossly MISQUOTED here … or did I leave the other half of my brain in bed this morning?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
112 Sledgehammer Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Peter O, and I reiterate you are a fool, end of discussion.
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Very weak Sledgehammer.
Please state your interest and greater knowledge than other posters in this forum?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 am
JULIE HI , send nice piccie of half naked tanned torso , pleasexxxxxxxxxxxxxx
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:16 am
138
Increasingly Increduloous
Please dont revert to those kind of posts.
Im sure that they would have financial advisers and could have negotiated ‘mortgage holidays’ etc.
My point is, they were ’sailing close to the wind’ in terms of their finances and perhaps should have ended thei holiday a little earlier instead of waiting until things began to get ugly?
After all, they must know and have known that you cant fool all of the people all of the time?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
“The way I understand A. Ribeiro’s way of thinking :”
What you mean is, the way you’d like to think Ribeiro is thinking….
“theMcCs were allowed not to answer the questions, and they went back home anyway”
And couldn’t have been obliged to answer questions prior to that, as they could only have been questioned as witnesses. Moreover, it would atually have been illegal to have put potentiall self-incriminatory questions to them, in the absence of caution, and of their having the oprion to have a lawyer there.
So, let’s kill that interpretation, and return to a more reasonable one. That the McCanns were made arguido in the absence of what English Law terms “reasonable, objective cause”.
And that, havng publically named them suspects, the PJ have been forced to work very hard to justify that - and have failed to generate, in the five intervening months, enough evidence to justify their “rogatiry” application for questioning.
And Ribeiro is now distancing himself from that - note how careful he is to disassociate himself from the actual decision to make them Arguido.
Which, in its turn suggests he knows the wheels have come off, and he intends a subordinate to carry the can….
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
140 you do not and never have understood the execution of the caution, as clarified by ex- police officer Petermac, do give my regards to Danny and Arnold.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 am
138 OY OY How do you know Gerry was not paid ?I do not believethe NHS would not have paid this grief stricken farther while he dilligently turned over ever stone looking for Madeleine, not when the head of his hospital is a director of their fund, come on oy oy pull the other one, now feck off, too. i am going to enjoy my lunch
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:12 am
Saturn, …..What part of if you say “They/he/she killed her”" do you not understand can be construed as a libel at this time.