Madeleine McCann: Alipio Ribeiro’s Thinks, Clarence Mitchell Knows And A Birthday
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY STAR ON SUNDAY: “MADDIE COPS SAYS SORRY – Police ‘too quick’ “to blame parents”
“A top policeman has sensationally admitted that making Gerry and Kate McCann suspects over their daughter Maddie’s disappearance was too ‘hasty’. Alipio Ribeiro, boss of the Portuguese department in charge of the investigation, dropped his bombshell in a radio interview”
Says Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns spokesman: “Now that the national director of the Policia Judiciaria apparently acknowledges that they should never have been made arguidos, it follows there is no case for them to answer.”
SUNDAY EXPRESS: “POLICE ‘TOO HASTY’ OVER MCCANNS”
“As the couple bravely celebrated the third birthday of their twins, Sean and Amelie, one of Portugal’s most senior detectives admitted that making them suspects had been a “hasty” mistake”
Did Mr Alipio Ribeiro say “mistake” in his radio interview?
Says the paper: “The couple, both 39, said the official’s comments were tantamount to an admission that Portuguese detectives had bungled by centring their investigation on them.”
Says Mr Ribeiro to Portugal’s Radio Renascenca, owned by the Catholic Church:
“At this moment in time and speaking with the experience I have of Portugal’s Public Prosecution Service and the constitution of arguidos, I think there perhaps should have been another assessment before the McCanns were made official suspects.
“I don’t have any doubt about that. The national director of the Policia Judiciaria doesn’t give out orders on the constitution of arguidos but there was a certain hastiness”
Says the paper: “Last night Ribeiro was under growing pressure to stand down as national director of their country’s Policia Judiciaria”. Pressure from, whom?
MAIL ON SUNDAY: “”Police chief: We were too quick to make Gerry and Kate ‘arguidos’”
Says the Mail: “Kate and Gerry McCann’s bid to clear their names over the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine has been given a massive boost after the head of Portugal’s police admitted it had been a mistake to rush into making them official suspects”
Mr McCann says: “We need a breakthrough and this looks like it could be one. It is fantastic news. We still have a long way to go but people in Portugal need to understand what has been happening and what we have been going through. We know it will take the police a long time to accept what has been happening is wrong but it is an important step towards that”
Says the McCanns’ lawyer in Portugal, Carlos Pinto de Abreu: “Many people who may have vital information have possibly not come forward as they wrongly suspected the McCanns”
What about that huge reward, and doing the right thing? People may be deterred from coming forward for fear of being named in the media and questioned by Metodo 3, the McCann’s private investigators. But let us not speculate
SUNDAY PEOPLE: “MADDIE U-TURN - EXCLUSIVE Cops admit mistake on twins’ birthday”
“Kate and Gerry McCann threw a birthday bash for their twins yesterday - as a top cop admitted it was WRONG to name them as suspects over missing Maddie”
Well, Policia Judiciaria “boss” Alipio Ribeiro, said the police acted too hasilty. “Ribeiro last night faced calls to resign over the astonishing U-turn” – although from whom, the paper does not bother to say
Say the McCanns: “The support we have had from around the world has been amazing. It’s helped maintain our strength and hope and this has helped the search for our precious Madeleine. We believe there is a very good chance she is still alive. She deserves the love and security of her family. She needs to be back home with her mummy and daddy, brother and sister”
THE GUARDIAN: “Police chief says ‘we were too hasty’ in naming McCanns as suspects”
“In an interview to be aired on Portuguese radio today, Alípio Ribeiro, the national director of the Polícia Judiciária, will concede that police may have acted too soon in making Kate and Gerry McCann formal suspects, known in Portugal as arguidos. His comments were interpreted last night by the McCanns as a tacit admission that the police were wrong to name them as being involved in the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter”
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February 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
167
Garth Says:
……..”Im gonna get you baby………im gonna get you yes I am”
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Playing ‘monster’ games again Garth!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 am
“You certainly will have also seen the animation of his other popularly famous work ‘Animal Farm’ but I recommend you read the book itself to gain a more complete understanding.”
I first read 1984 when I was 12. I’m now 46 - in the intervening years, I’ve probably read it a dozen times.
I’m a great devotee of Orwell - I’m sutting typing this in my study, and behind be on the bookshelves are copies of everything Orwell ever published, including the four volumes of the collected Essays and Journalism, along with the Crick, Bowker, Shelden, Taylor and Stansky/Abrahams biographies, as well as stuff like Hitchens on the Orwell Legacy.
I think I know my Orwell rather well……
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 am
171 Increasingly Increduloous Says: February 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 am
“This case is being investigated under Portuguese law, not English law.”
Except, of course, tht Portuguese Law was changed to be much more similar in application to English law, just ten days or so after the McCanns were made suspects - not least because, Portugal had been repeatedly found in breach at the European court of Human Rights.
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Sorry, did you press Submit too quickly, or should I start telling you about the fairies at the bottom of my garden?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
Dont forget, duty of care, failed duty of care…consequences on victim…prosecution.
Bye all!
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
Saturn, again I refer you to post 61, perhaps you are selective in what you choose to read, it does appear so, stop waffling and squirming on the hook.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 am
131 Increasingly Incredulous
I presume your reply was meant for me? sorry about that, I looked at the top right hand
corner of the page and saw today”s date.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:52 am
Q&A: Suspects and Portuguese law
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6657977.stm
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 am
182
John
Clearly and correctly stated John.
Thank goodness there are people like you around!
Cutting through the crap which pours out of ’sledghammer’ and ‘increasingly irritating’ is sometimes amusing, is helping my precis skills, but can also get very tiresome!
Well, books to read…..not particularly enthrawling ones…bye and thanks for your post.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:51 am
187 Marie Nicholas…
I believe the literal translation of “arguido/arguida” is “one who is watched.” Bear in mind that the idiomatic meaning may be different.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am
If anyone can understand Portuguese and would like to make their own translation from what Ribeiro actually said, I see that the interview will be re-broadcast on Radio Renascenca shortly :
“The interview Alípio Ribeiro of the program “Tell There Excellence” can be heard in the Renaissance, this Sunday, between the half-day and 13.00, read in the pages of the newspaper “Public” and views in the RTP2. ”
This I just got off the Radio Renascenca translated to English site. If I’m reading correctly then that is today in about 45 minutes time?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 am
188 DT
So you think she’s dead then?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 am
In fact what he says is Alipio Ribeiro:
“En la investigación del caso McCann, vistos los obstáculos que el Reino Unido ha presentado, tácticamente hubiera sido mejor continuar la investigación sin notificar a los padres de que se los consideraba sospechosos,” y agregó que “en este momento la investigación se ha transformado en una batalla entre David y Goliat.” “The investigation of the case McCann watched obstacles that the United Kingdom has put forward, tactically it would have been better to continue the investigation without notifying parents that were considered suspects,” and added that “at this time the investigation has been transformed in a battle between David and Goliath. ” +++++All in the interests of fairness you understand.+++ http://www.esplendordelaforma.blogspot.com/
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 am
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Sludgehammer Says:
Saturn, …..What part of if you say “They/he/she killed her”” do you not understand can be construed as a libel at this time.
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The McCanns are suspects, that much is a fact. I was talking about the reports in the media about what the police suspect happened. There have been various reports, but there never has been a specific “accusation”, IMO. For example, there was speculation that Kate accidentally killed the girl, but also speculation that a “paedophile intruder” killed the girl, as reported in the respected news source Publico.
If you think this is libel, then take it up with those news sources. I doubt you will, because even the Team McCann Power Defense has not done so.
Generally speaking, I really have no idea what your point is … was Kate being libellous when she shouted “They‘ve taken her!”…?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:47 am
Anorak’s picture of Madeileine Maccann at the top of this page is one I’ve not seen before - mostly it’s been the same two or three full face poster images which have become synonymous with this horrible episode.
But from now on Madeleine on her beautiful pink bike, wind in her hair, full of joy and not a care in the world is how I will always think of her - may her spirit have found equal release.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 am
There must be a word in Portuguese for “suspect”. “Arguido” doesn’t mean “suspect” in Portuguese, I guess. It is very important to be accurate with the translation.
If I refer to Fance it is because the law systems seem to bear some similarities in both countries. When people are “mis en examen” (placed under examination”), it doesn’t mean at all they are guilty, but that their part in the criminal case under investigation is studied. Only later, and only with due cause, they’ll be suspected and consequently incriminated. The “mis en examen” status, probablky similar to the “arguido”, gives rights to the PJ to get specific knowledge of the whereabouts of the person, and it also gives rights to the person, sducha s to know what the PJ are looking for when they investigate, say their bank account.
If a journalist wrote that the person is “suspect”, when the person is just “mis en examen”, he/she could be sued.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 am
182…John
Poor Clarrie…..reduced to snatching at……er…..crumbs.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:45 am
177 Sledgehammer
Please provide the source of law supporting this statement, statute, case law or Law Lord judgements on appeal.
Perhaps European law sources exist?
I’d have a go myself, but I need to do simialr things for more academic purposes today (and you made the statement not I!).
I fear if you cannot understand and intepret the changes to the caution and understand why so many people were angry about and resisted that legislation then I also fear that any essay submitted by ’sledgehammer’ regarding the law in this case is definately not heading for even a pass.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am
Firestar - it’s still available on the website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7224347.stm
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 am
181…Increasingly Increduloous
Pot/kettle/black.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am
Mitchell is paid to make mountains out of mole hills and vice versa - if the words attributed to Ribeiro in SOS Madeleine (2/2/08) are correct then it obvious that he feels that the investigation is going well and patience is needed. This patience is I feel the counterpoint to the ‘hasty’ conferral of arguido status. Hasty here does not mean incorrect but badly timed.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am
“But the UK has repeatedly been found in breach of the Court of Human Rights.”
Not in a specific context relating to this issue - namely, breaches of Articles 6 & 13.
And, you’ll find, in every case where the UK has been found in breach, UK law has been subsequently changed. Wheras, the portuguese have been found in breach of Article 6 in something like 60-70 judgments, before reacting.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 am
173…firestar
Clarrie is going to look, as per usual, pretty stupid…when the full interview
becomes known nationally.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 am
Good Morning all,
don’t know if it has been previously posted and you are all aware that Chenier posted late last night. She is in good spirits and a lot better. Just had problems with her internet.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
159 Increasingly Increduloous
Did you read the book or only watch the film?
You certainly will have also seen the animation of his other popularly famous work ‘Animal Farm’ but I recommend you read the book itself to gain a more complete understanding.
To apply Big Brother to ‘anti-McCanns’ as you style them and your need to assign people to an opposing category to your own, indicates a basic tribal approach which indicates also a military training. Cannon fodder,in fact.
I have consistantly maintained that I am neither pro nor anti the incompetents. I simply do not have a natural afficinty to these parents (mainly because of their dishonest approach to their personal failures).
Pro-McCanns - as they style themsleves - seem to admit (but turn a blind eye to) the result of the McCanns approach to child care whilst on holiday and it cause.
Regardless of accident or stranger abduction, they failed in their duty of care. We must remember this.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
The outcome of whither any British subject, who is resident on British soil will be tried in this case will be decided under British law, those lawful decisions being taken by the Home Office under advice from the CPS and possibly the Attorney General. They and they alone will decide, if any request for the apprehension and deliverance of a British citizen is recognised by British legislation. That is wholly subject to any such request being received.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
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Garth Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 am
Julie
Duh……….maybe cos they aint got enough evidence yet and they’d look a right bunch of charlies if the McCanns were allowed to view it? I mean, come on, its been 6 months ffs.
Im gonna get you baby………im gonna get you yes I am!
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But ….. do they think they’re going to be able to collect any more evidence than they already have in the coming months ….. or are there going to be some sudden resignations from the PJ before the time is up? Or …. are there matters of evidence that are not quite tied up yet, and need to be clarified in order to make a case stick? When you say the word “duh” I get this hysterical mental image of you sticking an ice-cream to your forehead (don’t ask me what I picture you to be like because I’m not quite sure … just see the sticky mess on the forehead every time you say “duh”
You gonna get me ….. many men braver than yourself have tried
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
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Ferdinand Says:
32 PeterMac Says:
“Anyway, the good thing of this is that the mere fact that the McCanns didn’t confess despite of being professionally grilled for several days is IMO highly indicative evidence that they are innocent.”
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They weren’t grilled with a George Foreman so i reckon a killer might tuff it out, What de ya say?
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
“The backlash from not only the Portuguese people, but the rest of the world is going to be far worse in a couple of months time if it is actually revealed that the extension was made purely to cover up a lack of evidence????”
you may well be right - but the Portuguese have already raised the stakes very high indeed - recall, the first opportunity to have opened the case files was back in October/november, the day that the new law first cam into effect - so the process of raising the stakes has been underway for sometime.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 am
bbc news 24 have dropped the story it seems.
they were a bit iffy about it last night, saying they weren’t sure of the context the remark was made in.
looks like they’re sure now.
February 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 am
171…Increasingly Increduloous
But the UK has repeatedly been found in breach of the Court of Human Rights.