Madeleine McCann: A Pundit Says, Judge Eurico Reis Orders And The Sun Omits
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
THE SUN: “Shut up: Maddie cop by judge”
Police national director Alipio Ribeiro “stunned his men” by “admitting” the decision to make “doctors” Kate and Gerry McCann suspects was “hasty”
Judge Eurico Reis said it is “not the cop’s role to publicly comment on cases under investigation. The judge raged: ‘It is his duty to SHUT UP.’”
And: “Portugal’s top prosecutor Antonio Cluny branded Ribeiro’s comment ‘extremely worrying’” – Why worrying? Because of what he said? Or because a policeman has given his personal views about an ongoing case? The Sun fails to make this clear
The McCanns spokesman tells us: “You cannot have the head of the police force openly questioning the validity of the way in which they were made suspects and then not have a review”
Can’t you? Can someone expert in Portuguese law tells us if you can or cannot…
FERGUS Shanahan: “COPS SO WRONG”
Alipis Ribero is on the radiop. Says Shanahan: “In effect, Mr Ribeiro is saying: ‘We never had any evidence agsint Kate and Gerry. We didn’t take Madeleine’s disappearance seriously… Some of our detectives thought Kate and Gerry looked dodgy. So we made them suspects and hoped something might turn up.”
The tabloids, meanwhile, look at “creepy” Robert Murat, also a suspect - you know, the one the Sun calls an “oddball“
DAILY STAR: “BLOW FOR MADDIE PARENTS”
“TORMENTED Kate and Gerry McCann are to remain official suspects over their daughter’s disappearance. They hoped to have their ‘arguido’ status lifted after Portugal’s top cop Alipio Ribeiro admitted it may have been a mistake to put them in the frame. But government legal advisers yesterday denied they were planning to clear their names”
So the personal views of a policeman are not a deciding factor in an ongoing investigation?
“The 39-year-olds may be considered suspects for as long as the investigation continues – possibly years”
Read all about it!
DAILY MIRROR: “STILL SUSPECTS – Maddy probe team in row over letting McCanns off hook”
Says Judge Eurico Reis: “This case has had more than enough media exposure”
Mr Ribeiro is on the radio…
Says “media pundit” Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa: “He killed the investigation when he said there was haste in making the McCanns arguidos in the case”
Says Antonio Cluny, who we heard from earlier in the Sun: “I don’t know if he’s right or not but this conduct of speaking about pending cases is extremely worrying”
Why did the Sun end its Mr Cluny quote short?
LIVERPOOL DAILY POST: “Madeleine McCann: Liverpool grandad hoping for a miracle”
Says Mr Healy: “Like most people I would like to think that if there is a spark of hope I have to hang on to it. They haven’t found anything yet. We have to believe a miracle can happen. I still believe she is alive and until someone tells me different I will believe”
IRISH INDEPENDENT: “Maddy’s grandad hopes for miracle”
Brian Healey says he is pleased that “Alipio Rebeiro, national director of the Policia Judiciaria, said detectives were too hasty in making the couple suspects over their daughter’s disappearance”
Says he: “I am glad he has said it, it will get things moving to reinstate the fact they’re innocent”
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February 5th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
231 Marie Nicholas
I would say (approximately):
At all events, the PJ’s suspicions of the McCanns in relation to the possible death of their daughter are maintained. And sources close to Alipio Ribeiro say that the director’s words meant that, if Kate and Gerry had remained as witnesses as required under the new Criminal Proceedings Code, “they might not have left for England and their attitude might have been to show greater cooperation with Justice”.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
The Criminal Investigation Officers’ Union (ASFIC) of the PJ refused to comment on the last declarations of the national director on the Maddie’s case, considering that the silence has more power than any comment.
« In this moment, the silence of the Union has more power than any word », told Carlos Anjos, president of the ASFIC, to the Lusa news agency.
« Our silence has a special meaning », highlighted Carlos Anjos.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Inspectors of Maddie’s case unmotivated
Diário de Notícias
The atmosphere within the core of the Judiciary Police (PJ) in the Algarve is very tense, after the PJ’s national director, Alípio Ribeiro, admitted “precipitation” in making the McCanns as “arguidos”, back in September 2007, for the suspicion of their involvement in the disappearance of their daughter in Praia da Luz, Lagos.
“Everyone is outraged and we feel unmotivated. What he said is not true. It’s just politics and nothing else that is behind all this”, said sources connected to the process, who feel in that in the words of Alípio Ribeiro a certificate of “incompetence” was given to the work undertaken so far by the Judiciary Police pertaining to “Maddie’s case.” Curiously, with the knowledge and consensus of the Public Ministry and of the British police, who has always followed the process.
The statements of PJ’s national director, to the radio program “Diga lá Excelência” of “Rádio Renascença” and to the “Público” newspaper, are causing some polemic debate, specifically in the midst of the judiciary sphere with several judiciary officers criticizing severely Alípio Ribeiro and with the General Prosecution Office stating that the situation of Madeleine’s parents will be evaluated “at the right time”. This after the couple’s requested to have their “arguido” status lifted in the sequence of Alípio Ribeiro’s words.
The statements of PJ’s national director that there was precipitation were unpleasantly received among the inspectors who follow the case and they take a critical significance to the investigation, particularly at a time when the inspectors are preparing to play a decisive card in England, in the sequence of the rogatory letters for questioning the couple and the seven friends that dined with them at the Tapas restaurant, about 30 meters from the apartment of the Ocean Club resort.
The purpose of that, is to try to “make clear” once and for all, the situations that occurred in the evening of May 3, and as well investigate the “contradictions” in the statements given to the PJ by the parents of the child and their friends.
In the travel to the United Kingdom the Inspectors will also seize Kate McCann’s diary to be used as evidence in court, in which Maddie’s mum speaks of her difficulty in handling a hyperactive daughter. Another object of interest for the investigation is the famous pink cuddly toy that the girl had always in her possession and that was put on view by the mother in Praia da Luz. The English sniffer dogs, experts in detecting cadaver scent reacted upon that object, which strengthened the suspicions of the police surrounding the death of Madeleine, after having expressed the same alert signal in the apartment from where the child was taken.
The PJ never believed in the kidnap version given by the parents and they were made arguidos in September after the English dogs sensed various locations where the corpse of Maddie passed through, from the apartment to the Church of Our Lady of Light [commonly known as Igreja da Luz (Luz Church)] in direction to the beach. How she disappeared and why are explanations that are yet to be revealed.
ASFIC does not comment on the statements given by the PJ’s National Director
Administrator: Publication? Date? Author?
The answers given: Diário de Notícias the Lusa news agency I have to assume today. -agw
February 5th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Chloe spain 158
You’re right with precipitado in spanish is the same thing.
But if you think about it and “by exclusion” he’d not be suggesting that they proceeded against the rules naming them arguidos, otherwise he’d say that they were wrong.
I can also confirm that Mr Ribeiro has a legal background. Indeed he was a magistrate for the MP (Ministerio Publico) before he was made head of the PJ.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Need to do some work (which this afternoon is singing). Back later i hope.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
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gillyflower Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Mr. Healy’s statement in the Liverpool Daily Post:
LIVERPOOL DAILY POST: “Madeleine McCann: Liverpool grandad hoping for a miracle”
Says Mr Healy: “Like most people I would like to think that if there is a spark of hope I have to hang on to it. They haven’t found anything yet. We have to believe a miracle can happen. I still believe she is alive and until someone tells me different I will believe”
February 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
185 Ian
Again, my translation might need a few adjustments, -maybe Chloe is still here and can help -but it will give you the general idea :
“De cualquier manera las sospechas de la PJ sobre la pareja McCann por la eventual muerte de su hija se mantienen. Y fuentes cercana a Alípio Ribeiro dicen que las palabras del director tuvieron el sentido de que si Kate y Gerry hubieran sido mantenidos como testigos, como dicta el nuevo Código de Procedimiento Penal (CPP), “tal vez no hubieran partido para Inglaterra y su actitud hubiera sido de mayor cooperación con la Justicia. ”
(esplendor de la forma, today, eloisa)
Anyway, as regards their daughter’s death, the suspicions from the PJ about the MC couple are maintained. Some sources from Mr Ribeiro’s circle say the Director’s words gave the feeling that had K and G been kept as witnesses, according to what the new code about penal procedures wants, “in such case, they wouldn’t have left for England, and their attitude would have been of more cooperation with Justice”
Administrator: Once again, I have to ask: What is the source of this? Who is the author and want is the publication.? An answer is needed rapidly or I shall have to put this posting into moderation. We must know where these statements originate. -agw
Answer given: “esplendor de la forma”, today, signed by Eloisa.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
224 Jo
I usually do written translation but I have translated in court for clients of mine, with the advantage of being fully familiar with the subject beforehand (having also done the written translations of the briefs filed with the court by both parties).
February 5th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Justlooking
Rubbished very highly trained dogs and the rest of the world
Harrassing people with their endless search for a suspect (NOT Madeleine)
Spending so much cash
posing as victims when the ONLY victim is poor little Madeleine
Etc…..
February 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
185 Ian
Portuguese newspaper CM quotes sources close to Alipio Ribeiro saying that with his statement he meant that “had they waited for 8 more days, the new Criminal Code (or CPP in Portugal) would have entered into force and the PJ would have been able to prevent their departure from Portugal - had they been named arguidos under the new CPP”.
IN any case: To be named an arguido the PJ need only to suspect that there’s involvement in a crime. When Amarel called them to the Police station and started asking questions that indicated that the McCanns could have been involved in moving a body, he had no other option but to name them arguido’s (since it was then evident that they were suspected of involvement).
February 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
why thankyou Gilly
have you heard we’re trying for a little Karona ??
February 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
183
Chloe Spain
The one word taken out of context is a good illustration of what Ribeiro said about likening the case to the contest between David and Goliath.
CM might be able to get the tabloids to print his ludicrous spin. Personally, I think they lost the British public good opinion when Team MC rubbished our dogs.
February 5th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
223
gillyflower Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 12:
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Join the club!
Surely if you are in the UK there will be more work????? in spain,its pathetic and worrying
February 5th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
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Chloe Spain Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
and I thought I would die of embarrassment,not for my mistake but because of the told off I had in front of a packed audience….. 
since then I dont do it)
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Do you do simultaneous translation in Court?
This is a pain in the neck and you are right saying very often lawyers use ambiguous terminology….and one is responsible for the correct translation.Can be a nightmare if you dont get it right first time coz the jugde can really get very cross with you (it happened to me once
Mortal!!!
February 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Morning all!
Just popping to say hi to everyone.
Am on sticky wicket in work and will probably be like Jo by the end of the week. Never mind. I don’t like the bloody job anyway.
Would much rather be messing with horses, dogs and anorak.
Congratulations to Brandon Flours and Lone Pigeon - am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy for you.
Tis nice to get good news on this site.
No news from the reservoir then?
What did Mr Healy say?
Maybe in this afternoon, but will prob. wait until tonight.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
February 5th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
221 Vera
You’re welcome
February 5th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
212
MrsT ;
Cheers.
February 5th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
just_me
You could upload it to youtube and then post the link
February 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Mrs Pigeon - if i had any idea how to upload a song to anorak from a cd I would happily do it and show myself up, and do a rendition lol
February 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
213 brandon
Am not sure …. but he/she may be near a yellow card
February 5th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
209,probably…..I had to pack in after a heart scare, so I then started my own agency,havnt looked back really,still play though,(although not proffessionally )and try to instill a bit into my kids…..
February 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
215 Marie Nicholas.
Extremely worrying. If true, it means that a criminal case would be brought to a conclusion for political reasons, i.e. no separation between the political power and the judicial power (think that’s Spanglish but I imagine you know what I mean).
February 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
183 Chloe
Thank you. I have no Spanish dictionnary here, and my memories of Spanish are far away. I knew my translation needed a few corrections.
But isn’t thie conclusion a bit worrying?
February 5th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
179 man on a hill
That is very possible. In Spain, lawyers (which I believe he was at one point - anyone know?) are often intentionally ambiguous. When I am translating a legal document, I often have to point this out and they tell me it’s intentional (unfortunately, it isn’t always like the present case where the same ambiguity can exist in both languages).
February 5th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
mrs t
aaaawwww thanks
Has reporter gone too?
February 5th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Vera
Just had a quick look back at yesterday’s posts. I do believe Sledgehammers has been pulled … ( I did try to attempt to read it yesterday but I gave up … I thought I’d got double vision and was about to ring Specsavers … it was a very bad post ) … but Peter O’s final farewell is post 859.
And to Brandon aka Mrs Lone Pigeon and to Karen ….. belated Happy Birthday wishes xxx
February 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
185 Ian
Personally, my first reaction was that he meant that they’d done it too soon. I’ve looked at the original Portuguese words and suspect they are ambiguous. But I can’t find them in their full context, so this might not be the case.
February 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
201
RedRooster Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
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How am I???
Running like a mad chick looking for work…..
February 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
198 Delboy
Excellent dude, It might be better to ask who isn’t a guitarist round here.
February 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
204 - got it